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2024-10-31 13:06

#149 好きなアイスで深層心理 #科学系アウトテイク

全く心理学を修めていない二人が、好きなアイスクリームの味を通して勝手にお互いの深層心理を暴く回です。なんのこっちゃ?!という方は、10月7日配信の科学系ポッドキャストのエピソードからどうぞ♪



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Music: Rice Crackers by Aves




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So we talked about how your favorite ice cream flavor essentially represents your inner psyche
and you as a human being in totality. Well, somebody proposed that as a statement on reality.
And your response to the answer to this question was that you tend to go for a cake batter flavor
whether it's like incorporated in the ice cream itself like if it's homogeneous or if it's
heterogeneous in that there are little bits of cakes. Yeah, I go for a cake or cake flavored
or cake batter or whatever they might call it because it's always different for some reason.
And yeah for a mix of I think that old childhood like sort of one that I mentioned the frenzy one
and also because it's yeah sometimes turns out to be really good.
So yeah, yeah, so so good for you. There's nothing wrong with that.
I don't know what it what it tells me is that you want
let me think you want that's uh something like a best of both worlds type of situation.
A best of both worlds. You like to be in a situation where you can bridge to community,
to worlds, to cultures, and get the best of both worlds. I feel like we're writing a horoscope.
A horoscope. Does that sound convincing? I feel like I'm convinced but I feel like I'm convinced
because oh shit you knew you should not be no no wait for it wait for it I'm convinced there's
a punchline coming Asami. Okay hold on to your hold your britches so I I'm saying I'm convinced
but I'm convinced that you have simply described what I do in my daily life as as knowing me
as like a person like I don't know if you took this from my ice cream flavor.
I don't know if I extrapolated the ice cream flavor to your daily life or your daily lives
to the ice cream flavor. What you're saying is that they're super related though right?
That's what you're saying. No I just wanted to have some excuse of tying your ice cream flavor
choices to something that is pseudo profound sounding. Ah I see okay. That was the first
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thing that came out to me but if it was accidentally reflective of your real life
hey maybe I'm good at psychoanalyzing. I wouldn't go that far but I would say that. Fine I am
everyone I am unqualified person to perform psychoanalysis of anybody.
It hasn't stopped a lot of other people I mean you could still do it. That's true there's a lot
of people who enjoy psychoanalyzing. Celebrities, friends, strangers, whatever. Yeah um yeah yeah
and and I don't know it's to me see like I would never pick cake batter even though I probably
do enjoy cake batter as much as anyone next to me as like a pure flavor. Sure.
Because it sounds like a lot. It sounds like I'm asking too much for this single piece of dessert.
Hold on. And I'm bound to be disappointed. Wait I think you're already you're pre-empting the
answer to this question with your own psychoanalysis. I need to know what your answer is
to the ice cream question. To my ice cream? Yeah because what you just said was like well
you know I really I'm not sure about committing to like these sort of various things and like that.
Are you saying that I have a commitment issue? I'm not saying it. Your ice cream discussion is
saying it. I haven't I haven't said anything. That's how I pass the buck. I see. You know
somebody. I see I see. Well you know I may have commitment issues because I was gonna cheat my
answer by saying I was going to say that rather than enjoying a single flavor I usually like a
combination of flavors. So I was gonna answer with two. So if that's not commitment issues I don't
know what is. Well it's it's certainly well continue. What are the two flavors? But I want
two separate flavors. I don't want I don't want a hybrid. I want two distinct flavors and which is
why I have a big struggle whenever I go to eat ice creams in shops and get really sad that usually
two flavor comes with like two giant scoops rather than two small scoops because what I want is like
a single version portion which is the one scoop. I would like a half and half but most places they
would only let you do two scoops if you order two giant scoops and that's not what I want either.
But my grimes aside. So I usually go for for the for the combination I usually go for one fruity
almost gelato type flavor whether it's raspberry or passion fruit or mango something that is
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refreshing with more dense ones like coffee or chocolate and I like if it were up to me
I would probably like it to be more like 75% fruity and 25% dense chocolatey flavor.
But I do feel sad when I have to choose just one of them because what I enjoy the most is
the combination of the two rather than one of each. So what does that say about me?
Well from the sounds of it I think you know you really like to get the best of both worlds you
got two things. No no no but I think there is a distinct difference between choosing the
combination and choosing a hybrid. So yeah actually I had a question about the hybrid
meaning there. Like what would be an example of a hybrid just to make sure I'm on the same page
with the like do you mean flavors that are similar to each other like an apple pie flavor
yeah it's like are you an apple pie or are you an ice cream oh I get it okay you mean like like
the sort of that blended together like they got chunky bits they got all these different things
yeah those to me are hybrids I understand okay cookie and cream yes do you want to be an ice
cream or do you want to be a cookie I see I feel like that actually says more than your choice of
two flavors I feel like that right there okay it tells me something I'm not sure exactly what it is
but it's like it's like make make a decision like I'm happy to have both of you but like I need you
to make a decision on what you are you're not allowed to like blend into a complicated like
sort of experience of senses I need you to be different and I get to choose which one I'm
dipping into at either time that's that's what you're looking oh wow that sounds like a really
toxic person who cannot handle the complexity of a whole human being but it's but it's a firmly
about me on a public wavelength you started this you started this oh shit I did yeah
oh man I will you did mention like gelato yeah though right and I admit I didn't bring that in
as a thought like I when you said ice cream because of like you were thinking strictly of
ice yeah because of the U.S. like at least region that I'm from right that was like not a thing that
was very common it was ice cream like you get you get dairy ice cream that's what you have you
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know I forgot exact percentage but I think it has to be like 70 plus percent yeah there's I don't
something like that it's it's mostly right like a large amount it's mostly dairy yeah so
um because gelato like the especially the fruity ones I'm I'm hella on board with like
getting that instead like a lot of the times that is really refreshing versus like when you
want a dessert you like I might go for an ice cream but if I want something refreshing and sweet
they're like fruity gelatos are the way that I would head there right that's that's a little
different I think it's interesting because if I have a choice yeah of the same flavor profile
between ice cream sure and gelato yeah I'm always a gelato person okay like whether it's creamy
flavor or not usually preferred gelato ice cream only when it's acting as a garnish
to like a chocolate cake or like apple pies like yeah and that's like almost always just
playing vanilla ice cream right like it's not ice cream is not the main show it's just like
there to enhance yes and yeah yeah and in that case I would I would be significantly disappointed
if like a sorbet comes on top of my apple pie yeah that would those probably shouldn't be together
um like do whatever you want with your food but I do feel like that doesn't work the same
um yeah yeah you did remind I don't know why this didn't click until you said ice cream
like on the side of apple pie or like cake or something right that that makes a lot of sense
to me I think this didn't come up because it's very rare I don't often run into ice cream places
that do the hybrid apple pie thing like there was only like one I think by us that had done it you
know way back in in grad school when that's like bike path yeah yeah right when that's there
that's also like top tier for me which is you know again in contrast to you not wanting any hybrid
related things I'm like give me something with like a bunch of bits in it I'm curious to like
have that um yeah yeah no I I I guess I always thought that you liked apple pie yeah in general
because you don't like chocolate and you don't like coffee and apple pie which is completely
diabolical and it reduces your dessert choices to very few there's so many more than coffee and
chocolate oh do you have any idea how much of the dessert world are occupied by chocolate or coffee
flavored things no because I don't bother going towards them you have no idea what you're missing
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out man the look I'm getting right now um yeah yeah okay so I have a commitment issue and you
like the best of both worlds yeah that's sure that's a totally nice and kind summary of our
psyches after like an ice cream discussion yeah that's fine I'm sure nobody will have judgments
to make so yeah all right that's it somebody go eat some ice cream take the edge off yeah
also like frozy yogurt oh god are we is this episode done are we done
that's it for the show today thanks for listening and find us on x at
egode science that is e-i-g-o-d-e s-c-i-e-n-c see you next time
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