はい。
So I was born in Venezuela, Caracas.
That is in South America.
I was there until I was three years old.
I went there because of my father's business.
So I was there.
I don't have any memories since I was only three.
And then came back to Japan where I lived in Tokyo for about,
let's say, four years.
Well, in that time I moved to Kawasaki.
And then again, because of my father's business,
I went to Houston, Texas in the United States
where I spent about five years,
from second grade to seventh grade.
And then came back to Japan,
spent my junior high, high school, and university in the Tokyo area,
and then went back to the United States for my graduate studies,
got my master's and my PhD,
started working there for about three years,
and then came back to Japan to work for the university.
And that was when I was, let's say, around 32 years old.
32ってことは、
it's been more than 10 years since we met?
Yes.
Wow.
すごいね。
すごい。
We grew up.
Time flies.
南米のベネゼーラ・カラカスシ生まれで3歳までいて、
そこから日本に戻ってきて、
小学校2年生まで日本にいるんですけれども、
父親の転勤でアメリカのテキサス州のヒューストンに
5年間また行くことになって、
そこで中一の途中までいました。
そこからまた日本に戻って、
中高大と日本の教育システムで育って、
そこから大学院にアメリカに進学しようと思って、
また留学して、
修士号と博士号を取って、
そのままアメリカで2年半、3年ぐらい働いて、
そろそろ日本に戻ろうという時になった時に、
縁があって行ったのが琉球大学。
そこで南田太赤に会いました。
すごーい。
辻先生、スマートガイ。
スマートガイね。
はい、すごい。
I was born and raised in Okinawa, the one location,
だから、
It's really amazing to imagine growing up in many places.
So, between English and Japanese,
which do you feel comfortable to speak with?
Both my parents are Japanese,
so we speak Japanese at our homes,
or we used to speak Japanese at our home growing up.
And I spent my junior high, high school, and university
in the Japanese school system,
and my friends were all Japanese,
and I spoke Japanese.
I believe my Japanese is much better than English.
I still struggle today with my English language abilities.
I do a lot of studying from time to time.
But you feel difficulty only when you, you know,
researching or studying,
but not at the daily conversation, right?
Daily conversations, I guess I'm still okay,
but I would still say 90 to 95%.
There are situations where I get stuck with word choices,
just because there are situations or words
that I just can't translate well enough,
or I lack the vocabulary to express my feelings
the way I want to in English.
So if you ask me if my English is that good,
I would say 90 to 95% in daily conversations,
but there are times when I can't express what I want to say well,
or I lack the vocabulary to express what I want to say
the way I want to in English.
That's how it is in daily conversations.
I do a lot of research,
and I look up vocabularies when I get used to a new vocabulary.
I guess that happens in Japanese as well, right?
In the vocabulary field.
Of course, it happens in Japanese as well.
Are you talking about when I was small or after university?
When you were a kid.
When I was a kid, yes.
I couldn't speak English.
The words that I knew in English were words such as
タクシーとかバスとか.
I still remember taking a test where I had to say
the name of the picture that was presented to me.
And I saw a picture of a loaf of bread.
And I would answer, パン.
So I persuaded my parents and told them that I wanted to go to the United States to study.
In graduate school.
Sport was one thing that I did all my life.
I was on the varsity American football team in high school and in my university.
It was natural for me to think that I wanted to work in the sport industry.
In order to achieve that, I felt that it was important that I study sport management.
The business of sport.
Hence, I went to the University of Florida to study sport management.
When I was in the fourth year of college, I was thinking about what I wanted to do.
Rather than dealing with products that I didn't know, I wanted to deal with products that I knew and liked.
So I wanted to go to a university in the United States.
I persuaded my parents and told them that I wanted to go to a university in the United States to study sport management.
Then I started studying about sport management at the master's level.
I started to learn all aspects of sport from the management perspective.
There were different courses, but I felt that I didn't learn enough.
So I decided to stay on and study at the doctoral level, focusing on one aspect, which was marketing.
I spent another four years in the university system and got my Ph.D. degree in sport management.
I didn't want to be a professor at first, but I saw my professor going to his kid's baseball game at around 3 p.m. on a Friday.
I thought, wow, this is a great job.
You could use your time as you wanted.
So I started to learn about sport management.
As a result of my extensive study, I wanted to study a little more.
So I studied at the doctoral level for another four years.
I didn't want to be a professor at a university.
I didn't want to be a professor at a university.
I didn't want to be a professor at a university.
I didn't want to be a professor at a university.
I didn't want to be a professor at a university.
I didn't want to be a professor at a university.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
I think it's very attractive to have a normal life.
When my professors is in the university,
I often wear STEPHAN....
I often wear STEPHAN...
I often wear STEPHAN..
and I practice ukulele.
and I practice ukulele.
最高! Saikou!
授業のない日はTシャツだったけれども Jugyou no nai hi wa T-shirt datta keredo mo
ちゃんと授業のあるときはプロシャツに着替えて Chanto jigyou no aru toki wa pro-shatsu ni kigaete
留大のときはTシャツだったよね? Ryudai no toki wa T-shirt datta yo ne?
ゼミ? Zemi?
わかんない。緑のTシャツしか覚えてない。 Wakannai. Midori no T-shirt shika omoete nai.
Maybe for Zemi.
いや、それがいい。 Iya, sore ga ii.
いいね。自由な働き方。 Ii ne. Jiyuu na hataraki kata.
男の人ってスポーツ好きな人多いじゃん。 Otoko no hito tte supo-tsu suki na hito ooi jan.
私の旦那も陸上してたけど、 Minna doukyusei toka wa
アスリートを目指すとか、マッサージの資格とって自分のお店をオープンするとか、 Asurito o mezasu toka, massaji no shikaku totte jibun no omise o open suru toka,
グッズ販売をしてみるとか、自分のチームを作ってみる、教育するとかっていう人が多いイメージだったから、 gutsu hanbai o shite miru toka, jibun no chiimu o tsukutte miru, kyouiku suru toka tte iu hito ga ooi imeji datta kara, I had the image that there were a lot of people who wanted to make their own teams and educate others,
これを学問でマーケティングとしてやっていくっていうのが新しくていい道だなって思った。 kore o gakumon de marketingu to shite yatte iku tte iu no ga atarashikute ii michi da na tte omotta. so I thought it was a new and good way to do marketing.
昔、1960年代ぐらいから徐々に始まってきたわけなんだけれども、 mukashi, senkyaku rokujuu nendai gurai kara jojou ni hajimatte kita wake nan da keredo mo, It started in the 1960s,
その理由として、スポーツがあるけれども、それを裏方で支える人たちがいないっていうのと、 sono riyuu to shite, supootsu ga aru keredo mo, sore o urakata de sasaeru hitotachi ga inai tte iu no to, but there were no people who supported sports in the past.
そこに優秀な人材をつけるために、大学としてどう関われるかということで、プログラムがいっぱいできてきて、 soko ni yuushuu na jintai o tsukeru tame ni, daigaku to shite dou kakawareru ka to iu koto de, program ga ippai dekite kite, and I started to do a lot of research to accumulate that know-how.
昔からあるけれども、日本でも最近では、いろいろな大学でプログラムがあったりするので、 mukashi kara aru keredo mo, nihon demo saikin de wa, iroiro na daigaku de program ga attari suru no de, It's been around for a long time, but in Japan, there are a lot of programs at universities these days.
学科としては少ないのか? gakka to shite wa sukunai no ka? Is there not enough programs at universities?
学科としてはできているところも多い。 gakka to shite wa dekite iru tokoro mo ooi. There are a lot of programs at universities.
じゃ、今どんどん成長過程というか、どんどん増えることになるという感じ、この10年くらいでも。 ja, ima dondon seichou katei to iu ka, dondon fueru koto ni naru to iu kanji kono juu nen kurai demo. So, is it going to keep growing?
オリンピックに合わせてとか、そこらへんがあるから、スポーツ経営学というところが伸びているところもあるかもしれない。 orinpikku ni awasete toka, sokorahen ga aru kara, supootsu keiigaku to iu tokoro ga nobiteru tokoro mo aru kamo shirenai. Maybe it's because of the Olympics.
じゃ、来年以降とかはまた新しい動きがあるかもしれないって感じ? ja, nannen ikou toka wa mata atarashii umoki ga aru kamo shirenai tte kanji? Maybe there will be a new movement next year?
あるかもしれない。 aru kamo shirenai. Maybe.
We're not sure.
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何だろう、そういうカルチャーなのかな。
緊急学生の方は成長したりする。
アメリカだったら大学院生とだったらまあいけるけれども、
卒業は行かなかった。
でも日本の大学ではまあ税にがある環境上、
まあ一緒に飲みに行くっていうのをもちろんあるし、
I feel like Okinawan students are really nice to me.
Even now, even after I graduated from university, I still go to Okinawa often.
There is a huge gap in how we take it, what is the definition to measure how we are close to a certain people or teachers.
In America, if you look at everyone's image, they are really open-minded and have a good spirit.
But in the company's position, for example, if you are a normal employee and CEO,
if you are a teacher, you are a student, and if you are a professor, you are a professor.
In that kind of world, there is a more strict image than in Japan.
I thought saying, as a friend, casual and friendly, but when it comes to professor and students, it's more like,
I feel like they are more mature.
It's a diversity culture, so I think it's easier for people to have a sense of propriety if there are various regulations.
But I think it's interesting that not all of the countries in the West are open-minded.
I don't know if Japanese people pay attention to their seniors, but sometimes I think that the position of the vertical society is completely different in the West.
It's interesting.
I've been living in various countries, and I've absorbed it, so I thought it was interesting.