せーの。 What's up amazing people? This is YASASA RADIO by Akane and Minami. In this
radio we're going to talk about random topics in Okinawan Japanese and
English. はいたーい。
ぐすーよーちゅーがなびらー。 ヤササレディオのアカネとミナミやいびん。
うぬーレーディオでぐすーよーんかい。 英語とウチナーグチさんにいっぺーうむさるはなしつづけやんりちうむとーびん。
イェーイ。 We have a guest tonight for a while tonight. Yeah it's been a while.
She's Ayano from Osaka desu.
イェーイ。 Hello. Nice meeting you guys. I'm from Osaka. I'm Ayano.
Should I say when I met you before? Yeah I met Minami in Toronto before like
maybe 10 years ago. Yeah we became friends and just visiting Okinawa this
time so I'm just getting a guest today.
Yoroshiku. Yoroshiku. I think you're the first guest
start talking before us. Oh my gosh I'm sorry.
出しゃばるからさっそく。いいね。もう全面に出てるのがわかっていいですね。
Osaka vibes. Osaka vibes yo. I'm sorry that.
She already introduced how Minami and Ayano met already but
maybe for someone who doesn't know I was in Toronto for
two months. I didn't even know that. I mean I knew
yeah I think so. Like like seven or eight years ago.
でそこのランゲージスクールみたいなところに
Ayano from Osakaがいて、そこで会った数少ない友達が。
How did you guys get closer? It was so natural though.
Closer. もうなんか
in that school we have like eight students in
the one class and we have the same class every day.
All day. だからなんか全然人がスイッチしなくて。
ずっと同じメンバーだったから。そしたらね、その
周りの3、4人がなんとなく hang out.
How many Japanese were in that class though? Most of them.
Yeah and some of them are from Korea.
コリアンとジャパニーズの アジアン
クラスだった。先生はなんかカネディアンみたいな。
アジア色強い学校だった。
Like a specific for business, right?
Like a business English class. でも2ヶ月だから。
まあ楽しい程度に終わったんだけど。
Anyway, so that's the way we met and
シッピングだったっていうことはちょっと違うかも。
本島だったらトラックで運べるけど、
沖縄だったら海挟んでるから、
シッピングがフライトしかないわけ。
っていうののオペレーションが違うとかだったけど、
特にもうでかいルーティンがあるから、グローバルで。
だからそんなに違うことっていうのはなかった。
But just to be honest,
Before I started working in Okinawa,
I was worrying about the, like,
nai-cha time?
ウチナータイムじゃなくて?
ウチナーじゃないよ!ウチナー!ウチナーよ!
ナイチャーは本島の人ね。
ナイチャータイム。
ウチナータイムが、
I was worrying about that.
But yeah, they were strict for the work, so it was okay.
みんな時間通りに来てた。
そう、時間通りに来てた。
じゃあほとんど沖縄は現地採用?
どういうこと?
ほとんど全員現地採用。
そうなんだ。
Like, when people work in H&M,
they have to speak English?
No, not at all.
They don't need to, but
most of them could speak English, though.
Because RICAM is next to Futenma, right?
Ah, yeah.
So, yeah, most of them could speak English.
So you mean, like, most of people who work there
was from, like, military base or
like, a family from there?
Some of them.
Some of them.
でも確かにその地域だったらすぐバイリンガル雇えそう。
ほんまにバイリンガルがめちゃめちゃ多くて。
なんか、大阪で働いているときとかだったら
なんか、日本、英語喋れる人いますか?とかなるけど、
沖縄ではならんくて。
みんなが喋れるから、RICAMでは特に。
だから私がいたときには、
英語で話した後に
テクニカルなマネージャー判断しかできないことを
私を呼ぶって感じ。
ああ、はいはい。
じゃあ、普通のことはそっとなく?
全然こなせてる、こなせてる。
じゃあ、普通に沖縄の人、英語喋れる人多いなってイメージあるの?
めっちゃ思ってた。
へえ、いえい。
しかも発音が全員綺麗やなって思ってた。
イエーイ。
でも、みんな綺麗やな。
イエーイ。
何だった?
ウケる。
本当に思ってた。
なんかさ、前に言ったことあると思うけど、
セリンのアイテムは沖縄のメインランドとは違うんだ。
ああ、いやいや。
オープンして売れるアイテムがちょっと内地と違うみたいな。
あ、そうなんだ。
ベーシックアイテムがなんとかとか言ってなかった?
いや、ベーシックアイテムは本当に良いセールス。
I don't know. Maybe the store manager knew
I can speak English.
You were already working at H&M?
Yeah, yeah, of course.
I was just...
Where were you before you went to the Philippines?
I was working
at the Shinsaibashi store.
It's a big one.
Yeah, so maybe
the store manager knew I can
speak English, so that's why they
maybe the HR person
so
maybe offered all
the store, the person who
can speak English can go to the Philippines
for
open the store, the new store
over there.
Yeah, that's right.
You were lucky.
Yeah, I was so lucky.
How many people were there?
Only three people.
And other supporters were over
like a hundred or something like that.
From Sweden
like over 20 people
or from Holland
20 people
from China, like 30 people
or something like that. But from Japan
was only three people.
No, four.
Four?
Maybe that's because
it's a big problem.
It's a big problem.
You don't know where
English skills will be picked up.
You don't know.
Sometimes they come to places
you don't expect.
Yeah, that's right.
There are companies
that don't speak English at all.
Yeah, that's right.
It depends on the situation
or the position of the company.
That's not true.
That's not true.
You're like speaking Kote Kote Kansai dialect.
Yeah, Kote Kote.
That's not true.
I have a lot of friends and acquaintances
from Kansai, but
how you speak is like
so
Osaka.
What do you mean
so Osaka?
You don't speak standard Japanese.
I don't speak standard Japanese.
Osaka standard Japanese?
Yeah, like
in Okinawa,
in interviews,
there are people with
only Okinawan accents.
That's the image of Kansai dialect.
It doesn't change anywhere.
Is it because of your parents
or your environment grew up?
Maybe environment,
I think.
Which part in Osaka are you from?
Oh, I'm from
Higashi-Osaka, do you know?
Higashi-Osaka.
It's next to...
I thought you don't know.
It's next to
Osaka-shi.
It's very close, but
I'm not sure because my friend
also my friend told me
Most of them are like that.
Sometimes
Kansai people
show it proudly.
I was wondering
what it was.
They show it proudly.
I think it's strong.
Like Kansai.
Like Kansai.
I don't know how to say it.
I think they show it.
And
Kansai dialect
has a proper honorific.
How do you say it?
Kansai intonation is a normal honorific, right?
Like, you can do it, right?
Something like that.
I think
there are a lot of expressions.
In Okinawa,
the standard language is strong.
Not standard language.
Standard language.
There are a lot of
non-standard languages.
I think Kansai dialect
has a proper honorific.
I think so.
But I like it.
Like, let's put this in.
That's Okinawan.
That's right.
You didn't know?
Like, let's do something.
Your accent was like Kansai.
Really?
Okinawan people
say like, let's go home.
I know that.
I thought
let's go home
was a honorific.
No.
The meaning of kaerimashou ne
means you going home
or you invited them to go home with you.
I'm going home.
But in standard language,
it means like this.
For example,
like, let's go to the bathroom.
It's a bit confusing for mainland people.
It sounds like
together.
In standard Japanese,
that's what it means.
But I hear this a lot.
Yeah.
I heard it a lot,
so I knew it from the start.
Also,
you wear
all your clothes.
What do you mean?
You wear.
There's not much difference
between wearing and not wearing.
I think
it's totally different.
I was told that.
I was told that.
And I didn't fix it.
Yeah,
you didn't fix it.
Normally,
like, let's wear a jacket and go home.
In Tokyo.
But they told me not to wear it
but to wear it.
And I'm like, ok.
I got used to it.
I got used to it.
That's a dialect you don't care about.
A dialect you care about
is like,
me.
The first impression of me
is like,
even at our level,
we all try to fix it,
but we don't care about the details.
Like wearing or not wearing.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Well, it's different for everyone.
I think there are some Okinawans
who are more used to it.
Sometimes.
Style.
Me?
I don't know.
I'm not used to.
You are not.
I don't get used to saying
me.
What do you usually say?
Akane?
Akane is me.
Me?
Minami.
Minami is
Minami or
Uchi?
You don't say Uchi.
You never say Uchi.
What the hell?
You say Minami.
Minami or when I'm at work.
I see.
But you say Watashi.
I don't feel uncomfortable.
You say Watashi in sentences.
That's true.
That's not it.
I don't know.
You say Watashi.
But when I meet that person,
I don't know if it's me.
I see.
You don't say Akane to people at work, right?
Well,
the people above me
say Watashi.
But like
closer people
say Jibun wa.
You take a break.
Jibun is either
me.
Jibun wa sou omoimasu.
Do you say Jibun, Hayano?
I don't say it.
Watashi?
I only say Watashi.
Is there a difference between Watashi and Atashi?
Well,
why did you laugh?
It was too detailed.
There must be a difference.
Well,
I've never been conscious of it.
There must be a difference.
That's what I think.
I've never been conscious of it.
But I think
I'm the only one who has said it.
Like Aashi wa or Atashi wa.
Kansai people don't say Aayori.
They say your name.
Only me.
I think people who say Watashi
say Watashi wa or Watakushi wa
at work.
But
it's a frank company.
It's the same as when you talk to your friends.
You just say Atashi wa.
I think so.
Watashi wa
is the most polite.
Next is Atashi.
Did you say Watashi three times?
No, no.
Watashi wa is the most polite.
Atashi is middle.
And then Jibun.
And Akane.
a dance circle in
university.
Oh, you were a dancer.
I used to.
Now, I used to.
So that's why English
was very closer to me.
So
yeah.
One day, I
just thought
I want to go abroad to any country
that doesn't matter.
So I just wanted to study
English.
So I went to agent that day
and I decided the agent
and I decided the country
where I go.
And after that, I told to
my company, my
boss that I want to quit
and I want to go to
Canada because
I want to study English.
It was sudden, but
yeah, as you said,
I couldn't speak English at all.
Like, you...
Like, not at all?
You mean...
Not at all.
Maybe I know
this is glass, this is
dishes,
this is mic, or...
Yeah, I knew
some words, but I
never had a conversation with others.
Oh, yeah.
Also from other countries.
Was there choices between
like which states in Canada
or you only have Toronto?
Why
Toronto?
Because I was Miha, right?
Justin Bieber?
Yeah, I was Miha.
Like a Justin Bieber, right?
I was thinking
that time
I was really cared about my
like accent.
So I couldn't speak
English at all, but if I
can speak English,
I want to speak English
like a Hollywood movie.
Yeah, so that's why.
So I can choose, I could choose
America
or Canada.
I think so, because the agent
told me, you can choose many
countries, but if you go to Fiji,
they have accent, of course.
If you go to Australia, they have Australian
accent. If you go to England,
they have, you know,
Queen's English.
That's why. So I told to them
I want to speak like
like a Hollywood
accent.
That's why.
But they told me in America
they don't have a working holiday visa.
So maybe your choice is
only Canada.
That's why I chose Canada.
Your inspiration are from
Hollywood star.
Yeah!
Because I'm not
sure, but I was really cared about
the pronunciation.
It's okay.
Japanese is
really okay for me.
But at that time, like 10 years ago,
I was really cared about that.
If I'm going
to speak English, I need
to care about the pronunciation
or accent.
That's why I chose only Canada.
And Vancouver or Toronto,
they
offered me two places,
but I was
thinking
Vancouver, there are so many.
I'm not racist, but
there are so many Asians in Vancouver.
And Toronto,
it's not so many.
So I chose Toronto.
How long were you in Toronto?
One year and three months.
Okay.
I see.
You have a smooth
pronunciation.
English.
Really? I'm so happy.
I'm so happy.
Your laughing voice is still the same.
It's called
a dolphin's sharpener.
A dolphin's sharpener?
What the fuck?
What is it?
A dolphin's sharpener is
sold in aquariums.
The one with a dolphin on top?
Yes.
Do you know what it is?
I think I know.
It's a light laugh.
Yes, I was not told that.
But I was told,
it's a dolphin's sharpener.
Do you know what a dolphin's
sharpener is?
Yes, I know.
I know a girl from Osaka.
A dolphin's sharpener is famous.
A dolphin's sharpener?
I was told by a college student
so I think I know.
Do you think it's similar?
No, it's not.
It's just the way you laugh.
Yes, yes.
There are a lot of dolphins.
Some of them
even clap their hands
when they laugh.
Is a dolphin's sharpener a Kansai dialect?
What?
Japanese?
I don't know.
I thought it was Japanese.
I haven't heard a lot of words
from people who laugh a lot.
A dolphin's sharpener?
Yes.
But I haven't heard a lot of
vocabularies like
a dolphin's sharpener.
I've only heard about it
at a drinking party.
In Tokyo?
I think it's common in Japan.
Maybe the person
who was drinking with you
was from Osaka.
I hear a lot
that I laugh a lot in Osaka.
I feel like I'm funny
just because I fell down a bridge.
You're funny.
Yes, I'm funny.
You?
I don't say I'm funny.
Why do you sound like a chubby kid?
Did you say a chubby?
That's a lie.
You sound like a chubby.
I like Lawson a lot.
You said something else.
I like Lawson a lot.
I like Lawson a lot.
Do you like Japanese?
You are so stupid.
I was a bit cute at the end.
You said Uchina.
Do you sometimes say Uchina?
Yes I do.
When you say Uchina,
I think it's a bit serious.
Like, Uchina,
do you want to quit your job?
Something like that.
That's better.
I really want to quit my job.
I don't want to meet you to quit my job.
By the way,
Mecha is from Kansai.
I've been using it for 2 days now.
I use it a lot.
I thought it was a slang word.
It's a Kansai dialect.
Minami, it's a slang word.
It means I like you a lot.
Let's ask Mecha.
Yesterday,
I noticed that
Kansai people don't say Maji.
They say Mecha.
They say Maji Yabai.
They say Maji.
They say Maji Yabai.
They say Maji Umai.
In Osaka, they say Mecha Oishii.
They say Mecha Yabai.
I would rather say Mecha.
Mecha Yabai.
Maji sounds like
Yaru.
No.
But Maji
I think Minami uses Maji.
Because you went to Tokyo?
Yes.
Maji is a two-letter word.
Mecha means Mecha.
It's not very.
It's extremely.
That's why I use Mecha.
You can adjust the volume
to your liking.
What are you talking about?
Kansai culture exchange.
You work with
Okinawan people, right?
I used to.
Was there any
stereotypical Okinawan character
or some difference
you
aware?
Was there a difference?
You mean language?
Ningen.
Ningensei.
Ningensei was
really different.
There wasn't
a big difference.
Really.
Because we work
by the rules of our company.
to everyone.
Yeah, but...
I think it's better to say it in Japanese.
Even if you can't speak it,
I think it's okay to go abroad.
To study.
I think it's okay, but
the time you spend
in Japan
is really better
to think about.
If you want to improve your English.
Yeah, if you want to improve your English.
Or
friends from Mexico.
Yeah, I got
a friend who
can't speak Japanese
there, so
we have to speak English
each other, right?
Yeah, so
it was so hard for me too.
But, yeah.
If you
can't speak
your first language,
yeah, maybe...
You can speak English right away.
If you can't speak your first language,
you need to
adjust to the situation
outside.
If you can do that,
you can speak
in about a month.
Even if you don't have much vocabulary.
Also,
about grammar,
you don't need to worry about it.
If you want to communicate
with a person
from other country,
you don't need to care about
the grammar,
just the word or gesture
that you can talk with
people, right?
As you said.
But, you know,
even in English,
you can speak English, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It seems like it's fast to get along, right?
Yeah, it's fast to get along.
No matter what language you speak,
people who can speak English
will be relieved.
Even if you don't know English at all,
even if you think
you don't have a common language,
people who can speak English
and can speak English
will be like,
oh, they are human.
I was told that
when I was in Canada.
I was told that
when I was in Canada,
I couldn't speak English,
so I went to Japan.
I stayed at a host family's house
and studied everyday.
My friend told me
that language school
was like a weapon
for me.
I didn't know
so I just laughed.
At that time,
I didn't know what I was saying,
so I just laughed.
However,
my friend told me
that my smile was a weapon.
I asked her what she meant.
She told me that my smile
was a weapon
for me to make people feel safe
and make them want to talk to me.
When I was told that my smile
was a weapon,
I thought so.
I still think so at work.
I think my smile is a weapon.
Especially when I was in the Philippines.
I thought my smile was a weapon.
My smile is a weapon.
Even if I can't speak English well,
I can make people feel safe
and make them want to talk to me.
That's how I can work.
That's true.
I like people
who are easy to talk to.
Many people say
that Minami is scary.
I like people
who are easy to talk to.
I think that's a weapon.
It's a property I was born with.
I agree.
When I laugh,
I have the courage
to laugh.
I don't usually laugh,
unless it's funny.
But for people
who have muscles to laugh,
they can smile all the time.
Everything is okay.
They can look like they're chill.
That's why
I feel like
everything is okay.
That's true.
Why do you keep smiling?
She's just trying now.
So weird.
I thought I was doing well,
so I was grinning.
I don't usually laugh,
but I was grinning.
Grinning is good too.
Is it?
But
smiling
and talking
are different.
But smiling
is the smile on your face.
It's like
yes.
It's easy to use
in business.
Let's laugh.
The reason I can
keep smiling
is because
everyone should do it.
It's like
a triangle mouth.
You can practice
the triangle mouth.
It's good to make it.
It's important.
I think it's good
for people who do it.
Talking
and personality
are connected to English skills.
Relationship
too.
I talked about it earlier.
When your parents
and friends say
you won't have
a good relationship with your
I thought it was a Buddhist sound.
I thought it was a Buddhist sound.
I thought it was a Buddhist sound.
I thought it was a Buddhist sound.
I thought it was a Buddhist sound.
I thought it was a Buddhist sound.
How is your dating life?
Oh my god!
You shouldn't ask me that.
I told you
relationship is not my thing.
Relationship is not her thing.
Why is that?
You don't want to
commit for someone.
How long you don't have
boyfriend?
You've been single.
You don't count
your past relationships,
do you?
No, I don't.
If you count,
how many boyfriends do you have?
Yes, I do.
But,
how many years
before the last one?
Eight years.
Eight years.
The last one.
So,
you don't count
your past relationships?
No, I don't.
Ayano did
Instagram live at the same time.
It's getting personal.
You can only answer
if you're comfortable enough.
If you can't watch Instagram live,
you can talk about anything.
Eight years ago,
I don't count
all of them,
but some of them
moved my heart.
But
my partner
didn't move my heart.
Who moved your heart?
I did,
but my partner didn't.
How do you feel
when your partner moves your heart?
Well,
I'm a type of person
who doesn't care.
You don't look like that.
I know, I know. Everyone told me that.
But,
for example,
even if it's a relationship,
sometimes
I care about my partner's behavior.
For example,
he might go out for a drink today,
or he won't contact me today.
There are some people
who are like that.
There were some people like that.
Do you have something in common?
They are different.
I want to know
what you did
with this background.
I want you to give me feedback.
First you need to
listen and ask.
That's
important.
I heard that
What about your reaction?
I didn't do anything.
I just said,
oh, I see.
But I want you to
tell me what you wanted me to do
and what you did in time.
I want you to bring it to me.
But I want you to tell me
what I should do
to make it easier for me to accept it.
That's how I listen to you.
That's right.
I don't get angry
at you at all.
Really.
That's good.
That's logical.
It's hard to deal with
younger people.
That's right.
Younger people get a lot of money.
For example,
let's say
that I understand
what you're trying to do.
But
if I were you,
I would say,
it's better to say this way
because it leads to this result.
It's more efficient this way.
It's more beneficial
to say this way.
That's right.
That way,
your juniors will move more like this.
As a result,
it's a win-win situation.
Your evaluation will also increase.
I'm not wrong about you,
but this is more efficient.
It's more efficient to say this way.
It's also good to hear from people around you.
For example,
if you're angry,
they won't say that.
That's why it's better
to say this way.
I see.
It's logical.
That's right.
It's a good lesson.
I've never yelled at you
at work.
I've yelled at you
at work.
I'm a protective boss.
You're a protective boss.
It's a good lesson.
It's a good lesson.
Do you have a sale now?
What about trends?
Oh, right.
What should we do
this summer?
Trends?
What's your favorite trend?
My favorite trend?
When we broadcast this,
the sale will start.
But
what is a trend?
Men's clothes are definitely
resort shirts.
There are a lot of good patterns
this year.
Children's clothes are definitely
Dragonfly.
Okinawa is the best seller.