2022-09-08 1:44:43

#46【ゲスト:Karin Miyagi】覚醒したウチナーンチュスピリットが向かう先

Haitai amazing people!

今回はLA&日本を拠点に活動する映画監督/俳優/モデルのKarinが来てくれました!

24歳にモデルとして上京。東京生活で感じたウチナーンチュ・アイデンティティに対する葛藤、その後に経験したインドでのヨガ修行など。

2020年には自ら代表を務める『プロジェクトチムガナサ』を発足して、写真展や映画を手がけているマルチクリエーター。
故郷や愛する人を想う時に感じる胸がしめつけられる感じとか、切ないけど愛情で満たされているような感情ってあるよね。
それをウチナーグチで表現するとチムガナサって言うらしい。

沖縄ってたくさん問題かかえてるけど、それを変えるためのアクションを起こすのも大事。だけど今あるありのままの姿を形に残すことも同じくらい大切で、色々な経験を経て感じたOkinawa SpiritをKarinは体現してくれてるんだなーと感じました。

今はLAで演技学校に通ってるらしい、今後の活躍も楽しみにしてるやいびーん!

We had a guest Karin who is actor/film director based in LA and Japan. She shared identity struggle she felt when living in Tokyo, the experience of Yoga practice and why she started her own project "Chimuganasa".
Thank you so so much again for coming to our show!

-宮城夏鈴プロフィール-
1992年沖縄県生まれ。2017年ベトナム国営放送×琉球朝日放送合作ドラマ『遠く離れた同じ空の下で』ヒロインを演じ、東京ドラマアワード2017年ローカルドラマ賞を受賞。沖縄タイムス芸術選奨2018年演劇部門奨励賞を受賞した。
2020年に自ら代表を務める『プロジェクトチムガナサ』を発足。自身初の写真展『チムガナサ 宮城夏鈴写真展』を国立劇場沖縄で開催。2021年には自主制作短編映画『肝愛さ』を制作した。

チムガナサプロジェクト

Karinのインスタ

-Karin Miyagi Profile-
Born in 1992 in Okinawa Prefecture.
She played the lead character in the drama “Under the same sky” released in 2017. The film earned high evaluation by critics;winning the local drama aword at the 2017 Tokyo drama award. Also, Karin was awarded the incentive award at the Okinawa times Art award.
In 2020, Karin launched her own project “Project Chimuganasa”, lunched her first photo exhibition  “Chimuganasa ” at the national Theatre Okinawa. In 2021, Karin shot her first short movie  “Chimuganasa’”.

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せーの!
はいたーい!
はいたーい!
ぐすーよーちゅーがなびらー。
イヤササレーディオのアカネとミナミやいびん。
そのレーディオでぐすーよんかい
英語とウチナーグチさーに
いっぺんうむさるはなし
つづけやんりちうむとういびん。
What's up, amazing people?
This is YASASA RADIO by Akane and Minami.
In this radio, we are going to talk about
random topics in Okinawan Japanese and English.
So, we have a guest today.
イェーイ!
カリン・ミヤギ。
はいたーい!
カリン・ミヤギやいびん。
じゅーがなびらー。
So, she is born and raised in Okinawa,
started her career as an actor.
Now she started project Chimuganasa as a director
and currently studying performance in LA.
イェーイ!
すごい、生で聞けた。
めっちゃかっこいい。
そんな生で聞けたとか言ってくれる人が
この世に存在する時代になったのは
すごいけどすごい。
嬉しいんだけど。
めちゃくちゃかっこいい。
やいびんまでやってくれた。
だからさ、
私このラジオをLAで聞いてて
なんてかっこいいんだろうと思って。
LAで聞いてたんだ。
そう。
英語の勉強に使ってた。
あと沖縄のいろいろ話とか聞いて
沖縄の同世代の人が
こんな風に沖縄発信してるんだと思って。
すごいなと思って。
I'm so happy to hear that.
I know, right?
Thank you.
So, you currently live in LA
and you come back to Okinawa like...
A month ago.
How long are you going to stay here?
About three months.
I'm in the process of visa.
そうなんだ。
もうLAと日本の行き来とかしにうらやましいんだけど。
やりたい。
でも今って行き来するの大変なの?
最初は、私が行ったの2022年の1月から
行き始めてるんだけど
その時はもうめっちゃ大変だった。
そうなんだ。
検査?
もう検査も大変だし、
アメリカに入るのは簡単。
でも出て日本に入るのが
やっぱり3時間とか空港で平気で待たされるし
超面白いんですよ、日本のシステム。
なんかマジかみたいな思うことがいっぱいあって。
でもそれもどんどん緩和されていって
もう今は待ちもない感じ。
ないんだ。スムーズになったんだね。
ちなみにLAは
陽性の人と接触しても
会社に出たりするのが自由になった。
そうなんだ。今まではダメだったんだ。
そう。自主隔離だったでしょ。
自主隔離も自分の自己責任で
無症状だったら
そもそもテストしてないから
みんな言ってると思うんだけど
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結構4月から
誰もマスクしてない状態の感じ。
いいよね、そのフリーな感じ。
They have a free mask policy on the base too.
そうなんだ。
でも沖縄県民からすごいあれがあったみたい。
It's weird to see the lifesaver wearing a mask
at the beach.
In Okinawa, only the lifeguard wearing a mask.
Yeah, people should care more about
熱中症って。
変ですよね。
面白いけど。
Nice.
Anyways, how did you know about Arlene?
Me?
My fitness trainer
showed her picture first on Instagram
and then she was like,
Do you know Karin-san?
And I was like,
Oh my gosh, it's so beautiful.
You are the fan of her.
Yeah.
At first,
she said the same thing to me.
She said,
Do you know Karin-san?
And I was like,
I don't know.
Then she was like,
Oh, you like her a lot.
She showed me her picture.
And I was like,
Oh, you like her.
I like Karin-san too,
but I like her concept.
I also like Chimugana-san.
We know each other.
I feel like I've known her for a long time.
I thought we could talk to each other.
I thought so too.
I thought so.
The first time was at the hotel.
I saw her at the parking lot.
And I was like,
Oh my gosh,
Karin-san.
You are Karin-san.
Did you talk to her?
She is my friend in my mind.
I hugged her and said,
Nice to meet you.
I was so weird though.
She is so Americanized.
Then,
I was at an exhibition or a meeting.
It was my first time.
I was looking at Instagram.
I saw Chimugana-san's exhibition in various places.
I asked my family and friends to go and see it.
Then,
we got to know each other.
I'm so happy.
It's very first time talking with her in this kind of situation.
There is a person named Yuko Miyagi.
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She is like my aunt.
We are not related by blood,
but when I wake up in the morning,
she is always at home.
She is in her early 60s.
She is wearing a miniskirt.
Her legs are sticking out.
She is so cool.
Miyagi-san has been taking care of me a lot.
I always listen to her stories.
That's how I got to know Akane-san.
At first,
I only saw her in pictures.
She is so good at her job.
She is a wedding planner.
She is a manager at a cafe.
I thought she is a very talented person.
I wanted to know more about Akane-san.
I wanted to know more about her activities.
So I listened to Iyasasa Radio.
Her voice is like a raccoon's voice.
I don't know what to say.
Her voice is like a raccoon's voice.
Yes.
Her voice is like she is being spoiled.
Her voice is like a loose character.
Yes.
Her voice is very loose.
I thought she is very feminine.
I was surprised.
I see.
Actually talking to you.
You are always told that I am different.
Yes.
When I talk to my childhood friends for the first time in a long time,
I am told that I am still the same.
The way I talk.
That's because...
My look grew up.
My voice, the way I talk,
haven't changed at all.
I thought I was cute.
That's true.
Thank you so much.
On the contrary,
Miyagi-san is a very smart person.
That's true.
That's true.
Like...
The real thing is very random.
But it's cool.
This studio is also cool.
I saw it for the first time.
I thought she was doing it in such a serious place.
I'm glad.
It's so cool.
I'm glad.
It was worth investing.
That's great.
Anyways.
So...
So that...
Last week, two weeks ago,
I went to her...
Exhibition.
Exhibition.
I went to the exhibition.
She was talking about her career.
And then...
Like how she started as an actor.
And things like that.
I wanted to hear more about how she started her career.
In Tokyo.
That's true.
When did you go to Tokyo?
When you were...
I joined the entertainment industry when I was 23 years old.
At that time, the age limit was only up to 24 years old.
Oh, I see.
The age limit.
Yes.
Only up to 24 years old.
It was about 2 months before my birthday.
I was 23 years old.
Just before 24.
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That's when I joined.
It was super late.
Right.
It was after you became an adult.
Yes.
I couldn't even dream about it.
But could you choose the agency?
Or you have some kind of connection?
Or somebody introduced you?
No.
Well...
I was a bit hasty.
I slept with my friends once.
You were hasty.
You slept with your friends.
Yes.
I came back in the morning.
I was so excited.
My friend even called my mom.
I was so excited at my parents' parking lot.
I was crying and said,
I want to be a model!
All of a sudden?
Yes.
There were a lot of things going on before that.
Things were piled up and exploded.
Yes.
I said, I want to be a model!
I was so excited.
I don't remember.
The next day, I was told I was crazy.
I talked to my mom about it.
Since I was a kid,
I always wanted to be on stage.
I played basketball.
I was going in the opposite direction.
I was going in the opposite direction.
But I said I wanted to do it.
That's how it started.
I talked to an adult.
There is a musician named UWA.
UWA?
I've heard of him.
I'm sure my tears will flow without a sound.
Kato Miria did a sample.
He is very famous.
He said he was looking for a backing vocalist in Okinawa.
He also moved to Okinawa and lived there.
He said he was looking for a backing vocalist.
I sent him a picture.
The picture was a white tank top in short pants.
He was wearing high heels.
I said, I want to be a model.
He said he was looking for a backing vocalist.
I sent him a picture.
UWA said he wanted to introduce me to a bigger agency.
I didn't know about it.
I went to the first agency I joined.
I sent him my picture.
That's how I got to Tokyo.
That's amazing.
So it was the right decision to choose a tank top.
Maybe.
Foreign models often dress like that.
Yes.
I sent him a picture.
I knew it was a mistake.
That's how it started.
That's a good direction.
You went to Tokyo.
How long did you stay in Tokyo?
I stayed in Tokyo for 5 years.
I appeared on TGC.
The first TV show I appeared on was Sanmagoten.
That's amazing.
That's impossible.
It was a Okinawan special.
You were very lucky.
Yes.
Nina from MAX told me there was no thick-baked egg in Okinawa.
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They only had thin-baked eggs.
They only had thin-baked eggs like crepes.
After that, Sanma-san pointed at me.
I was like, what about her?
I was like, why did she point at me with a thin-baked egg?
A week before the show,
I went to a restaurant.
I was so nervous.
When they served me a thick-baked egg,
I bit into it.
Wait, wait.
What the fuck?
What the fuck, right?
I was late for the show.
When I was served a thick-baked egg,
I bit into it.
When I told them about it, they used it.
That was my first TV debut.
That's amazing.
That's good.
That's funny.
When you appeared on Sanmagoten for the first time,
you looked so nervous.
My mind was blank.
You were so nervous.
After the Okinawan special,
I went to a bar.
I heard about Gushiken and Garage Sale.
When Gushiken was on air,
we couldn't even rent an apartment.
It was a tough time for Okinawa.
Garage Sale also thought that
Okinawa shouldn't be on the show.
We talked about it behind the scenes.
We talked about how tough it was for Okinawans,
but now that we are here,
we are having a meeting about how we should be.
I think that's when it changed.
I realized how tough it was for Okinawans in Tokyo.
It was a good experience.
Was it because of Chira?
Yes.
And Namie Amuro.
At that time,
we were still in elementary school.
Gushiken was the start of everything.
It was a tough time.
But now,
the media wants to use Okinawa
and do a lot of things.
It was a tough time for us.
I think so.
It was like, I can't imagine that.
Yes.
Okinawa was already popular when we were born.
We were so lucky.
We just said Okinawa,
and it became a hot topic.
There are some stereotypes,
but we don't get hurt or discriminated.
You told me you were struggling
about Okinawan identity in Tokyo.
Yes.
I was surprised by that.
There were a lot of Okinawan works.
Especially now.
Yes.
It was a tough time for me.
How did you feel at the time?
At the time,
I was pretending not myself.
I was faking.
I tried to be not me
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instead of showing myself,
who I am.
I was trying to copy the girl
who was popular.
I was trying to copy the girl
who was popular.
Were they local people?
Yes.
Local people?
Yes.
You first appeared on TV
as an Okinawan very much, right?
Yes.
After, you know,
while you were active,
you changed your mind
or you felt something.
At the audition of a caster,
how can I say?
It was not a weather caster.
What was it?
You know,
there are always girls
who do food reportage
at a wide show, right?
I went to the audition
and I had to read the weather.
It was written in the script
that this area is sunny.
I thought I did a good job.
So I left with a gloomy face.
It was an audition for three people.
There was a senior from my agency.
When it was over,
she told me that
my weather was terrible.
I asked her what was terrible.
She told me that
I was so gloomy.
I didn't think I was so gloomy.
I was embarrassed.
I should have taken a good direction.
When I was talking,
my way of talking changed a lot.
Like, where?
Like, Okinawa?
I went to the U.S.
I was like,
Oh, that's why.
It's weird.
I didn't take it as a good part
of my personality.
There were many popular girls
around me.
I wanted to be like that.
I wanted to be the type of person
who is asked questions
and interested.
I see.
That's true.
The way I talk
and my accent was
People told me that
I was weird.
I didn't know that.
People told me that
I was doing low play
because I was a customer.
They told me that
my way of talking was weird.
I was like,
this is the original.
You guys are not.
I was ignorant.
I was more rebellious
than admiring.
I understand that.
I thought that was different.
I tried to fix it,
but I couldn't.
So I didn't fix it.
I think it's good
if you can make it
into a character.
If you are serious,
you try to fix it.
It's embarrassing.
I think it's the same
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with the standard language
and Kansai dialect.
You become a minority.
I see.
It's hard to understand
if you don't know something.
In Kansai dialect,
you can understand
what people are saying.
But if you don't know
what people are saying,
it's hard to understand.
Maybe I wanted to be
one of them.
But I couldn't.
For some reason,
I said,
I'm chasing one of them.
I was so tired.
I couldn't stand up.
That's hard.
It was so hard
to lie to myself.
My face was full of pimples.
I had long hair.
I couldn't stand up.
My mom came to help me.
She took me to India.
That's how I changed.
She came to India.
So you experienced
the period of
faking yourself.
When the independence
exploded,
your mom took you to India?
Yes.
My mom is
a yoga instructor.
My parents' house is a yoga studio.
I spent a week
in India.
I woke up at 5 a.m.
and did yoga until evening.
I meditated for 2 or 1 hour.
I did it all of a sudden.
So you've been doing yoga
since you were a kid?
No.
Not since elementary school.
I'm not doing yoga.
I've seen
my mom doing it.
I know the philosophy of yoga.
I'm not trying to do
it physically.
I'm not doing everyday type of yoga.
It's my mom's thing.
I don't want to do it.
But when she took me to India,
I realized
that I was
faking myself.
That's how I changed.
Wow.
After India,
you went back to Tokyo.
Yes.
I wanted to be a singer.
I made my debut there.
I was making music.
I took it to my boss.
But
he didn't
approve it.
I went to India again.
Then I went to Thailand.
I escaped to Thailand again.
I was singing
a cover song
in Chiang Mai.
Many foreigners
were dancing.
I felt like
I was doing my best
in a place where
I wasn't loved.
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If I go to a different place,
I can make people happy
and create a space
for love.
But I was
in the basement.
I didn't know how to make it.
I was in a garage band.
I was making music
with a loop.
I thought it was a waste of time.
So I went back to Okinawa.
I made my debut
as an actress
in a drama
between Okinawa and Vietnam.
I was in Okinawa
when I was three.
I felt like I was being
supported by Okinawa.
I had a hard time in Tokyo.
I thought if I go back to Okinawa,
there might be a place
where I can be loved.
I worked hard in Tokyo for five years.
But I came back.
That was two years ago.
That's a good choice.
It was quite recent.
I was so scared.
I was hiding in a chair.
I didn't want
anyone to see me.
I was embarrassed.
You couldn't do your best in Tokyo.
But you came back.
Maybe that's why I didn't realize
the beauty of Okinawa.
I was just embarrassed.
But when I lived in Ginoza,
the scenery
was so beautiful.
I could feel the
color of Okinawa.
It was so rich.
That's why I was
purified.
That's what led me to
make this work.
Your life changed a lot.
You went to Tokyo
and came back to Ginoza?
Yes, Ginoza.
You were surrounded by nature.
When you think back
about Tokyo,
do you feel
that it was a tough time?
Yes, a lot.
You both went to Tokyo, right?
Yes, but...
How was it?
When I was in Tokyo,
I only met my family.
I was the only one.
I was working at a resort
wedding company.
When I said Okinawan,
the customers were happy.
I always gave them
a tour of Okinawa.
I felt like
I was so proud of being
an Okinawan in Tokyo.
Everyone wanted to have a wedding in Okinawa.
That's all.
I was in an environment
where my family
guided me.
Before that,
I was in New York
and Okinawa.
I longed for the city,
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but I had a lot of work.
But that's not a place
to live.
It's just temporary.
That's what I thought.
In my case.
What about you?
I lived in Tokyo
and studied in Tokyo.
I was with everyone.
You were the person
who enjoyed Tokyo the most.
I could see that.
When it comes to your job,
or relationship-wise.
I guess so.
You don't eat alone.
Wait a minute.
Why do you always
act like that?
I'm actually a rabbit.
You can go to a restaurant
by yourself.
I can do that.
In Tokyo, that's normal.
But
that's why it's easy to enjoy.
You can enjoy
because there are
a lot of places,
information, fashion,
and music.
I was not interested in
those kind of things.
I was interested in
the relationship with people.
I hang a lot with
most of the time Okinawans.
Or Okinawans with someone.
Or like Americans.
I only get close with
people from the mainland
who was my co-worker.
I thought it was difficult
to make friends.
You?
You have a lot of friends.
There was a time
I was kind of depressed.
Like a high school student.
I have a lot of friends.
We are not friends.
I like a deep relationship
with everyone.
I have met
these people many times.
But I don't know
what they are like.
I'm like that too.
I can't have a shallow relationship.
I've been to a lot of parties
but I don't know
what they are going there for.
I'm not a model or actress.
I'm not going there to advertise.
I'm just going there to see
the people and the connections.
I think
there is an external relationship.
I sometimes think
that there are people
who become friends
when they meet me.
I feel like
I'm being asked
about my job status.
I don't know
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what I want to do.
I don't think
I need to talk about it
in a private place.
So I become a person
who doesn't talk much.
You have a rich face.
I don't smile.
I don't want to bother
each other.
I see.
I think
that's what people do.
But it's the same in Okinawa.
I'm worried about that too.
Right now?
There are people
who become friends after that.
It's hard at first.
They look at me
and say hello.
They say hello
and I'm like, who are you?
I'm scared.
But in the end
there are people
who become friends
because of that.
It's tiring.
I'm worried about that too.
I think that
it's not bad
for Japanese people
to have a culture
where you don't know
the rules.
You open up
too fast.
And they
are too slow.
Maybe.
Have you ever been told
you're too kind?
I'm too honest
and too kind.
I'm often told
I'm stupid.
Don't be fooled.
I'm not that kind of person.
But...
I'm often told I'm too honest.
But those people
become friends
after a lot of thinking.
I don't think
it's good to
go that far.
It's hard to
calculate
whether you should
flirt in front of
people you don't know.
It's a vice.
Maybe it's a characteristic
of Okinawa.
Maybe.
You have a good personality.
I'm sure you do.
You're right.
I think so.
It's the same for the vice.
So
as Okinawans
we should learn
how to be polite.
For example,
we are islanders
so if we say
what's up
it can be disrespectful
to the people in the mainland.
We shouldn't
represent ourselves too much.
There are some people
who don't respect us.
All of them love Okinawa.
I mean Okinawans.
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Those kind of people
tell us you're stupid.
I'm not stupid.
I'm just a little bit stupid.
So
you're often told
you're stupid.
I don't say I'm stupid
but I make fun of Akane.
I didn't even notice that.
You didn't even notice that.
Yeah.
I was told I was being made fun of.
Yeah.
Akane doesn't realize it.
She's a happy person.
She's happy.
Whatever.
According to your interpretation
you're stupid.
That's right.
In a good way.
Anyways.
I think so.
I think so.
You struggled in Tokyo.
You practiced.
You came back to Okinawa.
Yeah.
Then you lost your team.
That's right.
Can you tell us a bit about
what Team Ganasa is?
What is Team Ganasa?
What is Team Ganasa?
What kind of project?
How did you start Team Ganasa project?
Team Ganasa project
when it was really tough
we went to
Naka Bokunen's
art museum in Chatan.
There
there was a lady from Okinawa
who was doing an exhibition
called Uruwashiki Miyarabiten.
I asked what kind of exhibition it was.
There was a traditional Okinawan lady
with her hair up
standing in front of nature.
She was a girl
and very erotic.
Her hair was up
but her body was wrapped
in a black bandage.
I thought it was really cool.
At that time
I was faking myself in Tokyo.
I found
the soul of Okinawan
in the picture.
I was like
Okinawan
lady
I am Okinawan.
I was facing the sea
I found myself.
I was born in Okinawa
I am Okinawan.
I was like that.
But
when I was about to leave the art museum
the lady told me
that this exhibition
was going to be the last one.
I was like
why?
I am so young
and I can't wait
for this to be the last one.
I was thinking
and I bought a postcard
and posted it in Tokyo
and I prayed
that I wouldn't get dirty.
Okinawan, Okinawan
I woke up to Okinawan
I woke up to the last year
I woke up to the last year
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I woke up to the last year
I woke up to the last year
I couldn't help but want to do it.
I couldn't help but want to do it.
When I thought about
why this exhibition
was going to be the last one
I realized that I can't bring
my art to many places
I wondered if it was possible
I thought if it was a picture
I could bring it to places
where Okinawan spirit
is felt
especially women
especially young people
I wondered how
the people who are suffering
will wake up
from this
I don't know if it's the right word
but I realized Okinawa is
a great place
I was big
so I thought I could do it
But it took me four years to get to Ms. Bokunen.
I wanted to do it so badly that I couldn't call her.
I set up a call every day at 11, but I couldn't call her.
I wanted to do it so badly, but I couldn't because I was too strong-willed.
When I called her for the first time, Ms. Bokunen said,
It's a long story, isn't it? Can I talk about it?
It took me four years to get to Ms. Bokunen.
No, it took me two years to get to Ms. Bokunen.
It's a long story.
When it's a long story, I get emotional.
I want to talk about it in my own pace.
I want to talk about it in my own pace.
I want to talk about it in my own pace.
I want to talk about it in my own pace.
That's how passionate I was when I started this project.
Last year, I put a title on it, Chimuganasa.
I put a title on it, Chimuganasa.
But it was not clear what that title meant.
So I asked my grandmother what that was.
So I asked my grandmother what that was.
She said it's a word that comes from Chimu,
which means to be rich.
She said it's a word that comes from Chimu,
which means to be rich.
When you look at nature, you feel rich.
It's not just about love or liking, but it also includes sadness.
It's a state where the heart is sad.
So when I was told that love is not just about having fun and being happy,
but it also includes sadness as time goes by.
I thought you were such a romanticist.
I had that in my head, so I named the photo shop Chimuganasa.
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I wanted to convey that meaning, so I made a movie last year.
It's a short film called Chimuganasa.
I wrote the script with the director.
I also starred in the movie with actress Taeko Yoshida.
I didn't know what Chimuganasa was.
But it's a good word.
You've heard of Chimuganasa, right?
What?
You've heard of Chimuganasa, right?
I thought it was very common to hear about it.
It's a place where you can see nature.
How should I put it?
It's a place where you can see Irenohi.
Irenohi is very common.
It's a place where you can see grandmothers and grandfathers.
And Chimuganasa.
And Chimuganasa.
The movie was set in Obon for three days.
But my grandmother passed away.
She was taken over by her family.
So there was no Butsudan anymore.
And the Obon festival that I experienced when I was little was gone.
So I was doing Obon in a place without Butsudan.
But it was completely different.
But it was a process of shifting.
I couldn't stop it.
That's Chimuganasa.
So I didn't want to do anything.
I didn't want to make a movement to leave a speech.
I wanted to draw the present as it is.
That's Chimuganasa.
Maybe I have that feeling.
Don't you?
I don't know how to put it.
I don't want to raise my voice.
I want to accept it.
But I want to draw the present as it is.
I want to draw the present as it is.
That's my Chimuganasa project.
That's cute.
I'm embarrassed.
Akane and Minami have a lot of passion for Okinawa.
I'm impressed.
It's based on my own experience.
So I can sympathize with the reason why I started.
It's a story I can sympathize with.
When Akane's family was destroyed, I was sad.
Yes.
When you start to make something,
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you don't just make it in a shape.
You don't just show the beautiful things.
You don't just make it like this.
You want to convey only the present.
But it's realistic.
That's why it's called Chimuganasa.
I feel sorry for it.
You feel sorry for it.
It includes the feeling of jealousy.
I saw the movie.
There are some scenes I thought were good.
I want to hear.
The first place is...
Are you going to start from the first place?
Yes.
The second place is...
There is a scene where Karin throws her emotions into the sea.
Daisy was about to cry at that time.
Can I spoil the story?
Yes.
Her grandmother was diagnosed with cancer.
She went to the hospital with her mother.
Her grandmother was about to die.
Her story was going on in her mind.
There was a scene where she was about to cry.
I felt like she was expressing the feelings she had when she was diagnosed with cancer.
That's what I thought.
I don't have a grandmother anymore.
If I had a parent, I would be worried about what to do.
It's a very serious story.
But the name of the disease is...
What was it?
Pyruricin.
It's a spoiler.
In Okinawa, there are a lot of things like Koke.
It's the same in human relationships.
Even if you say Koke, it will explode and end.
I wanted to include that.
I drew a scene where her grandmother was about to die.
At the end, her grandmother said,
I feel good at home.
Her mother said,
What do you think the disease is?
Her grandmother said,
It's called Pyruricin.
Her grandson said,
It's called Pyruricin.
She turned the camera upside down.
Her grandmother smiled and said,
It's called Pyruricin.
I told you the whole story, but it's okay.
You didn't tell me.
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It's like a comedy from Chimugana.
I thought it was funny.
I thought it was like Karin.
In me.
I thought Okinawan culture has that.
We have a party called See Me.
We drink together and sing together.
We send a lot of things.
At the end, we laugh and say,
Let's do it.
I thought it was Okinawa, so I drew it like that.
I'll watch it.
Venezuela?
Santiago.
At that time,
The Venezuelan personality.
It was a woman who had a hard time in the country.
Everyone changed the story to a joke.
There was a culture of overcoming it.
The atmosphere is similar to that.
But is it a story in a warm area?
I think so.
I think it's related to the sun.
Like Nankuru.
Some people watch Chimugana like this.
Do you have any feelings that changed after that?
Yes.
How was the reaction of the audience?
The reaction was really good.
I was surprised.
That's a good point.
There are a lot of people who write reviews.
I was grateful for that.
But there are people who don't do that.
It was really hard.
I was depressed for about a week after that.
It was crazy.
But I thought it couldn't be helped.
I didn't do it to be liked by everyone.
If I do it and lose my personality,
I thought I should do it.
So I drew a painful Instagram.
I wanted to say thank you to everyone.
But I drew it.
For example,
everyone is doing various activities to improve Okinawa.
On the other hand,
in this layer,
I often think that this person is different from me.
But in fact,
there is respect for the person in the background.
Even if the religion is a little different,
we can still be together.
That's the basis of people.
I ignored that opinion.
You are my friend.
That's what I thought.
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When I thought that,
I thought I should never forget the respect for the dignity as a person.
It's natural to have different opinions.
That's why it's interesting.
But it's not fun to get rid of it from your world.
So I think my conclusion is
to live together as one.
Oneness.
Yes, oneness.
That's what I thought.
But in Okinawa,
there are so many people with strong love.
Everyone has a different way of expressing it.
Some people think of it as oneness.
Some people think of it as something that is directed at them.
They get hurt or angry.
When I talked to a politician the other day,
he said,
I wouldn't do this if I were him.
But I thought,
he must like Okinawa too.
So I said,
let's go.
And I ended the conversation.
When I go to the U.S.,
I feel so refreshed.
I feel like,
as an Asian,
I think I'm inferior.
But I have respect for all Americans.
I want to get to know them.
I listen to their stories.
I don't care about the layers.
I have 2 million followers later.
I'm surprised.
It's hard to talk to them later.
I feel like I'm ignoring their social status.
I have that feeling in English.
But when it comes to Japanese,
I look at their faces.
I look at their backgrounds.
I have that feeling.
I have the mindset of an American who speaks English.
When I come back to Okinawa,
and interact with people,
I think it will change.
I agree.
I say this all the time,
but in English,
when you get used to the personality of English,
you will be able to express yourself.
It's like learning a language,
but it's a completely different personality.
It's like your body.
When I speak English,
I have a big mouth and a big voice.
But in Japanese,
I can speak without opening my mouth.
I can speak fluently.
In Japanese,
it's complicated.
That's what Pemomo said.
In many languages,
English is straightforward.
There's no honorifics.
It doesn't matter if you're older or younger.
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It's just a person.
When it comes to Japanese,
there are Japanese people.
They have a background,
age,
and work.
I understand.
It happens.
But the complex of Japanese
is the beauty of Japanese language too.
That's true.
I really like the depth of Japanese language.
It's just that
Japanese is difficult to live in society.
The language itself,
there are so many ways to express it.
I hope that
fits in well.
Everyone's happiness too.
After all,
everyone is suffering now.
Whether you say it or not,
the way you say it
indicates this.
It's a troublesome debate.
But it's not just words.
I think it's the country.
I think so too.
The political movement,
the policies,
and the mask issue.
I think it's important.
Japan is a follower country.
Of Western countries.
But
if you live in Japan and look abroad,
Japanese people tend to only look at Western countries.
But
Americans are Americans.
They find it hard to live there.
Surprisingly, both are the same.
There are so many Americans who want to live in Japan.
But that's because they live in Japan as Americans,
so it's comfortable.
They live there as foreigners.
They have a different advantage.
In the end, they can only think about themselves.
They can't think about where they want to go.
It's just a general opinion.
If you talk to your American friends,
if you go there,
it won't be like that.
You're Asian, you're Japanese,
and you were born and raised here.
You have an advantage when you go abroad.
That's all.
If you understand that and read a lot of things,
even if there are people who are not satisfied with their lives,
it won't be like that.
It's the same wherever you go.
You can only be with yourself.
It's up to you.
It's so much fun.
I want to go there.
Me too.
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There are a lot of people who are working hard.
America is a country of immigrants.
There are a lot of people who want to achieve something there.
It's interesting just to watch.
It's a bit strange.
The energy is crazy.
I think there is energy.
In Japan, you can live if you are lazy.
Ayabe's book was really interesting.
It's like, what are you doing?
He was actually thinking about that.
It was interesting to see the charm of America.
What is good?
Even if you compare it in the acting class,
there is a big difference from Japan.
First of all, it's equal.
That's the first thing.
With the teacher.
It's different from Japan.
In Japan, there are teachers and students.
There is a structure of the mount from the beginning.
But they don't do that.
What I thought was really amazing was that
even for beginners,
they perform like an academy class.
America.
So it's not just about making a great performance.
It's about using all the power you have.
It's like a social barrier.
When you break it,
you can see the pure beauty from the inside.
That's the art.
That's what I realized when I went to America.
The students at the school,
do you know what they have been doing?
Do you know what they are doing for the first time?
I know because everyone talks about it.
There are people who are doing it for the first time.
There are people who became a mother
and have been an actress for a long time.
First of all, the teacher is a Hollywood star.
There are people who became great friends.
If you look at it later,
there are famous actresses in Mexico
with 5 million followers.
But everyone in the class is equal.
I didn't feel anyone's acting was good.
It was fun.
I realized that anyone can become an actress.
It's so equal.
Also, when I went to America,
there were a lot of Japanese people
who were challenging themselves.
There were a lot of them.
There was a person who made animation
not in Japan but in America,
in Hollywood.
I talked to that person.
In Japan, you usually bring the original work.
You make animation of popular manga.
For example, Naruto.
If you don't bring the original work,
there is no guarantee.
In the beginning,
I brought the original animation to America.
Then they told me to bring the original work.
It's boring if you have the original work.
That's the difference with Japan.
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In Japan, it's definitely the original work.
If you don't have a guarantee,
you can't make money.
But in America,
no matter what level of originality
you have,
there is a wide variety of cultures.
It's amazing that Japanese people
don't hesitate to challenge themselves.
That's true.
There are Japanese movie directors
who challenge themselves in Hollywood.
It's really interesting.
Go Japan!
They just don't know about it.
Everyone is doing their best in different places.
When I go to LA or New York,
I feel that there are a lot of people
who are doing their best.
Even if the result doesn't come out,
there are still people
who are doing their best.
There are also people
who have been doing their best
for a long time.
I think the diversity is also amazing.
Yes.
How is it?
There is a cute girl
in the class.
They enjoy
showing their personality.
It's totally different.
Speaking of Netflix,
it's not interesting
for white people
to start a project,
so it's natural
for one Asian person
to join the team
and do the project.
It's natural.
That's so cool.
I can see the difference.
Netflix's original show
has now Asian main character
like a lawyer in New York
or a gay
male character.
Yes.
There are always Asian characters.
Yes.
It's interesting.
Netflix's original show
is more interesting.
I always watch
Netflix's original show.
Yes.
It's hard to compare
Netflix and others.
Yes.
It's all the same.
I love
Netflix.
However,
they always
include minorities.
I wonder
how high
the quality
as a creation is.
In the US,
diversity is
highly recommended.
However,
recently I feel
it's strange
that they dare
to include
sexual minorities
or minorities as
episodes in the show.
Sometimes
I want to watch it as a work,
so I ask them not to include
social issues in the show.
I think
it's the creator's
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fault.
They don't let us feel it.
It's amazing
that they include it naturally.
I think it's a trend.
I think so.
Yes, I think so.
But I don't think
it's a trend.
There are children
who grow up watching it.
I think
it's too much
for a certain work.
The other day,
I talked with Minami
about this.
They always
give children
gay options
and confuse them.
They increase
the number of options
and dare to choose.
That's what I said.
I think
everyone has
different opinions.
For example,
if trans people
participate in a different event
and they all win,
like what America
is doing.
If we accept
it as diversity,
for example,
women can't win
in a certain event.
Even in that case,
we can say
yes.
We can change it
to a different category.
Everyone wants to do sports.
I think we can
make them compete.
As for
pronouncing,
when children
are in elementary school,
they see a lot of people
and think too much
about who they are.
Are you C or H?
Are you D or M?
They think too much.
Children are free
and they can play
when they want.
Even politicians
don't think
about it.
I don't know.
They don't think about it.
They listen to people's opinions
and watch shows.
They are influenced by entertainment
more than education.
I wonder what will happen.
In the fashion industry,
what?
There is a lot of gay.
Until now,
there were a lot of
men who were
very sexy.
I don't know
what will happen
in the future.
I don't know
what kind of people
will be born.
I think Americans
will become aliens
in the end.
They might quit being humans.
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Like, are you an earther?
Yes.
It's fun
to change the place.
It's fun.
It's not natural anymore.
It's really fun.
I think it's easier
to live there.
That's true.
Let's go back to the topic.
Why did you want
to be a model?
When you screamed like that.
Did we talk about it on the radio?
I don't remember the context.
We talked about it
before the recording.
It's okay.
Why did you want to be a model?
It's a deep
question.
I'm going to talk about it
a little bit.
I have a younger sister.
She's 7 years older than me.
Since she was born,
her limbs
have changed.
And
her body
started to hurt.
When she was little,
she was able to run,
but as she got older,
the gap between her limbs
got bigger.
She couldn't run.
She couldn't do what normal kids
could do.
So she went to a language school.
Her body hurt so much
that she couldn't go to school.
When she couldn't go to school,
she decided to go to a language school.
She tried to take her,
but she refused.
She was like,
don't categorize me.
She was really strong.
But we were worried about her family.
In the end,
her body started to hurt.
She couldn't go to school
until she was in middle school.
She had to stay at home
to take care of her illness.
When she was in high school,
she decided
to go to school.
She said that
three days before the exam.
Her mom was panicking.
So
she applied for a language school
in high school.
She went to school.
We were so nervous.
We didn't know
if she could do it.
At the beginning of high school,
we went on a small trip
like a field trip.
We had a drink with our friends.
We were caught.
We wrote a letter of apology.
We said,
we were so bored.
We clapped our hands.
We almost cried.
We were so happy.
We even praised her.
She had a family like that.
In the end,
her body started to hurt again.
She got leukemia and died at 15.
As a sister
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who has a sister like that,
when I was a kid,
I went to a hot spring.
I was told that
I should be a cabin attendant.
I was told that
I should praise my aunts.
I was told that.
You were praised by your aunts
by a close look.
I was told that I should go to a hot spring.
I was told that
I should be a treasure-hunter.
I thought it was strange.
I was a type of person
who wanted to express
my personality.
But I had a younger sister who was the exact opposite of me.
I think I had a lot of conflicts with her.
I didn't know if it was okay to be myself.
But I didn't fight back.
My younger sister passed away 2 years ago.
I sold Valentine's chocolates in Tokyo.
I thought it was not a bad thing.
I thought it was a job I could do even if it wasn't for me.
I thought it was stupid to do this until my younger sister passed away.
So I decided to retire one day.
So you went back to the beginning.
Yes, I went back to the beginning.
And I started to focus on what I wanted to do.
When I talked to her, she talked to herself a lot.
When it comes to her modeling.
She went from Tokyo to Okinawa and was inspired by Okinawa.
She talked to herself a lot about what she wanted to do.
That's her personality.
It's too late.
I wish I could do it right away.
Do you have your own personality in your head?
No, I don't.
I have a subjective personality.
I don't think it's necessary.
I wish I could play more with my inner child.
What do you mean by inner child?
Like a child?
I think you've been doing yoga for a long time.
Do you meditate?
Yes, I do.
What else do you do to focus on your inner child?
When I'm writing a story.
You're in the zone.
Yes, I'm in the zone.
For example, when I'm writing a song, a princess appears and waits for me in my room.
Something like that.
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You're waiting for her?
Yes, when a princess comes and asks me to write about her.
There are moments like that when I'm writing a story.
Do you have something else you can see?
Or is it something around here?
When you ask me why I meditate,
I think it's because I have my true self.
I block my true self.
It's hard to expose my true self to others.
I can't live by thinking it hurts or I don't like it.
I have a way to shut down my true self.
But when I express my true self,
I have to get rid of the filter of my subjective self.
Otherwise, my true self won't come out.
That's why I meditate.
I think that's the difference between my true self and my subjective self.
When I don't look at others, I dance around in my house.
If I can differentiate between the two, I won't get lost.
I think that's why I meditate.
I get lost from time to time.
I get lost from time to time.
Isn't that a super important consciousness for all humankind?
I don't think you can make such a big change in a short period of time.
So when you're writing and when you're acting,
is it something you can just take off right away?
Or do you take it off before you go out?
The other day, I had a workshop in Okinawa.
And when I told everyone to laugh, they all laughed.
They were laughing their asses off.
Karin was laughing her ass off, and I made fun of her.
That's how sociable you are.
So you were a sociable creature at that time.
I was a sociable creature.
I was like, what are these people doing?
They're not funny at all, but they're laughing.
As an expressionist, I can't do that.
But if you go to the US, you can do that easily.
You don't have to be sociable to do that.
So when I act in the US,
everyone says, you're my favorite.
It's like an inner child explosion.
You can do something fun right away.
But in Japan, it's difficult.
I just heard something really good.
I want to make Okinawa the US.
I think you have that potential.
Even if it's not all of Okinawa,
let's make this space the inner child safe place.
I think that's a good idea.
Like Karin just explained,
you have to be conscious of your inner child and society.
You have to live by yourself.
You don't have to live by yourself,
but you have to be conscious of the society.
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If you live by yourself now,
you might be able to lose control.
Like what Akane said,
you have to have a lot of conversations with yourself.
Especially in Japan.
Maybe in the US,
there are people who have been doing this for a long time.
You don't have to be conscious of the society.
There are a lot of people like that.
There are a lot of people like that.
Good point of view.
I want to train that.
Some people don't have this idea.
They don't even know about
Kenzai-ishiki and Senzai-ishiki.
It's confusing.
There are already a lot of people like that.
Is this the real me?
They don't even know.
I want to know more about this idea.
That's me.
That's fake me.
I don't think it's fake.
It's a social version of myself.
It's not a bad thing.
It's like a ticket.
You can't go around.
How should I put it?
I think it's because of the pandemic.
People are more conscious of
business people and their mindfulness.
I don't think we can stop that flow.
I think it's coming.
It's difficult.
Before we heard the word spiritual,
we thought it was natural.
We didn't say it out loud.
In the era of the pandemic,
everyone started talking.
We can't talk.
It's frustrating.
It's been like that recently.
It's been like that.
The era of the pandemic.
Everyone is talking about Rainbow Child on YouTube.
Inner Child.
Meditation.
Okinawans have been talking about it for a long time.
But no one is talking.
It's too late.
I wanted to be a person who can talk.
It's the era of the pandemic.
I was focused on that.
Then I realized I have to talk.
That's true.
It's because the world is like that.
What?
What are you talking about?
It's like that.
And you're good at talking.
That's right.
You're good at languages.
It's like that.
It's like that.
Everyone is too social.
When you meet a new wind,
you're good at going the other way.
That's right.
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There is no such thing as a spiritual person.
Everyone is like that.
But I categorized it like that.
I think it's very real that
people in my country don't say anything
and just cry.
I want to leave that.
I want to be a person who can talk.
Let's be a person who can talk.
That's why I thought you two were cool.
I'm glad.
Because you talk a lot.
You talk about a lot of things.
Especially,
I listen to people's stories
and talk about social issues.
But in the end,
I have to train my brain.
I feel like it's all connected.
Right?
Yes.
Aren't you three very nice?
I think so.
Even if you talk about a lot of things,
in the end, you come back to yourself.
Aren't you great?
You've grown up.
I've grown up.
You're the same as you were that day.
Because I like myself.
But if you talk to anyone,
you say good things to yourself.
You check yourself.
In the end, you may come back to yourself,
but you absorb things in yourself.
That's why I like talking to people.
It's scary, though.
You talk because you're connected.
That's right.
Even if you meet people every day,
you don't have to talk about it.
There are many people who have been through this for years.
It's easier to open up because there's a place like this.
That's true.
You focus on the important things.
You don't usually talk about it.
You're just drinking.
That's true.
It's a disease that makes you feel like you're going to pass out.
It's hot, isn't it?
Mitochondrial disease.
When I see that person, I understand.
Of course, I listen to them because they seem like they can do it.
But we don't always talk about it.
Between me and you?
Yeah.
We talk about healing everywhere.
Well, well, well.
It's just the two of us.
Are you talking about guests?
No, other people.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like at a bar.
At a bar.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When it doesn't matter at all.
I talk to people.
I don't know.
I don't know how to say it.
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If it's an English-speaking person,
I can talk about politics at a bar.
I like that.
But if you come to an Asian community,
you need to be polite.
That's difficult.
So I'd like to do a podcast like this.
I want to introduce myself to the world first.
If I say,
I like this kind of story,
people will think it's weird.
But I'm doing this as an activity.
Of course, I can talk about that.
I really enjoyed talking about porn.
AV?
Porn?
Porn.
Masturbation?
Masturbation.
Huh?
I was almost going to make a note of the site.
Wait, wait.
The name of the site.
There are a lot of sites.
You introduced like three major porn sites.
Right.
Let me introduce them again.
But...
That's so brave.
There is like my favorite sexual...
What?
Sex educator.
Aileen Kelly.
Aileen Kelly.
She's pretty.
I thought it was amazing.
There is Minami in Okinawa.
Minami doesn't have an erotic filter.
I think she can say anything.
I think it's great.
She is neutral.
She says,
I did it today.
Really?
Did I say that?
But...
It's too normal.
I don't think it's normal to have a conversation with your partner.
I don't think it's normal to have a conversation like that.
Minami's masturbation is the same as going to the bathroom.
Isn't it like drinking soy milk before going to bed?
Isn't it?
But everyone is human.
I like it.
I like it.
I love simulators.
Simulators...
Japanese people have a tendency to hide their sexiness and eroticism.
So if you go against it, it's not attractive.
You can't imagine it and it's enough.
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That's why it's hard to talk about it.
Or women don't want to talk about it.
There are older women and old men.
I think Kiko can talk about it.
But she can't talk about it openly because she is abroad.
I think it's a waste of time.
But Naomi Watanabe's recent podcast...
She only talks about dirty jokes.
Wet pussy.
She talks about dirty jokes every time.
She said that she only talks about dirty jokes in English.
My husband said that.
But it's interesting.
I didn't know that ordinary love life is so interesting.
It's interesting.
I just don't say it.
I agree.
We should talk more about sex.
We should provide more personal information.
Like, I like this.
You should talk about yourself.
That's embarrassing.
Akane will become your fan.
I like being touched here.
That's not good.
It's too detailed.
You will become a fan of a man.
I want to talk about dirty jokes like Seiji.
Dirty jokes?
What?
What kind of sites do you watch?
Dirty jokes that are not wet.
What kind of sites do you watch?
On YouTube, there is a woman who looks like a doctor.
A woman who looks at a vagina in the mirror.
A woman who looks at a vagina in the mirror and says,
This is your vagina.
She looks like an expert.
She looks like a woman who masturbates every day at the age of 97.
A woman who looks like that.
Is she different?
She looks like a boy.
Is she a boy?
Yes.
She looks like a woman who can do both.
She looks interesting.
She looks like a woman who can do both.
She looks like a mannish woman.
She looks at a vagina in the mirror and says,
You have to do this.
Does she teach you?
Yes, she teaches me.
She teaches me how to do it.
She tells me to practice.
That's what she said.
Master of vagina.
Yes.
It's interesting in America.
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There is a vagina bathing.
They put pussy on the vagina.
They put urine on the vagina.
Everyone laughs.
What kind of pose is that?
First, don't wear pants and sit down.
You don't have to look up.
After that, put your back on the floor.
Bend your knees.
If you stick out your belly,
the pussy will look up.
Everyone laughs.
It's like yoga.
It's like pussy earthing.
It's like pussy earthing.
It's like pussy earthing.
Pussy also need earthing.
I learned that from a reality show.
After that, my voice got really loud.
I cracked up.
I cracked up.
My personality came out.
After that, when I stood in front of the mirror,
everyone was sparkling.
You felt liberated.
Yes, I felt liberated.
I see. Do you want to try it?
There are beaches in Okinawa.
If you take off your bikini in the sea,
pussy earthing.
That's right.
You can do it in the ocean.
That's right.
You should do it.
I want to be an instructor.
That sounds good.
That sounds good.
You look like you're laughing.
Vagina instructor.
What was it?
In the documentary that Gwyneth Paltrow is doing,
she said, let's make a team of women and go look for pussy earthing.
Sounds like a good idea.
Let's do it.
Let's call experts and do it.
Sounds good.
Let's do a workshop.
I'm looking forward to the pussy earthing workshop.
Let's do it.
What was it?
What was it?
Wait, now...
The pussy earthing...
The way you go back.
You're so serious. I was wondering where you were.
We already did the pussy earthing.
Will you do it again?
Pussy earthing, keep going.
As a project.
I started a company.
As a project.
I'm also a representative.
As a project.
I've been doing life work for Okinawa Bridge.
There were a lot of people who looked like they were going to be in a movie.
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How did you get everyone together?
I don't know.
When I was a photographer, I had a team.
It was a young team.
For example, when I went to look for costumes,
it was so hard to find the real thing.
I couldn't find it.
I couldn't go to Okinawa and lease it.
I wanted to use wild flowers.
When I talked about that,
I felt a little different.
At a flower shop, the florist said,
if it's this much, it's worth 50,000 yen.
I felt a little different.
About a week before the shoot,
I thought it was impossible.
We broke up.
From then on, it was a zero-start.
We only set the shooting date.
I didn't know him at all,
but my mom told me to go see him.
I went to see him alone.
I talked to him.
He introduced me to the cameraman.
He said he was my sister's student 30 years ago.
He was a very busy person,
but the cameraman helped me.
He said it was because the schedule was open due to COVID-19.
I met him for the first time.
I went to see him,
and he told me that he had preserved
some of the old bazaars at Kumiodori Hozonkai.
He said he could lease it.
He said I could go into the sea.
But to go that far,
people who strictly followed the tradition
were cursed by the gods of Okinawa.
But there were people who weren't like that.
So it wasn't a connection,
but we all met for the first time.
You introduced each other.
Yes.
At the time of the movie,
the cameraman was Shuichiro.
I always wanted to shoot a movie,
so when I went to the set,
I thought, I like this lighting,
or this sound.
I was always looking.
I thought, I like this cameraman.
Why did I choose Shuichiro?
I was a singer,
and I didn't want to be in a music video.
I was told that,
so I thought I'd be in a music video.
I usually refuse,
but I wanted to do something,
so I went.
The cameraman was there.
We were a small team,
but he was a cameraman,
and he brought tools.
He had his own vision.
I thought,
if it was him,
my movie would be small-scale,
so we could all work together.
So I chose him.
The other staff,
when I was at the set,
I called them one by one,
and told them,
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I like this guy,
he's a pro,
he's an adult.
I called them one by one.
And also,
tools,
and art,
I wanted to use real dye,
so I looked it up,
and reached out to them,
and said,
nice to meet you,
I'm Karin Miyagi.
I thought,
your Vanguard movie is great.
There are people who cut,
but when I meet people who cut,
they are kind,
and lend me money.
That's how it was.
So I lowered my head.
But I think that's definitely better.
It's not about profit and loss.
I don't know how much
this girl can do,
and I don't have any achievements,
and I made a movie.
But still,
I don't know if it's because of the heat of the story,
but there are people who want to help,
so it doesn't matter if it falls.
That's the vibe.
It feels good.
I think that's the connection.
I went to the festival
when I was shooting the movie.
Akane came to the A-san scene.
I had a meeting with her.
It was amazing
that we could work together
like this.
And everyone came,
children and adults.
The last scene was Michijune.
At that time,
I saw A-san for the first time in a long time.
It was a youth festival.
It was last year,
so there was no A-san for two years.
I was impressed.
I was really impressed.
Recently, Michijune was also impressive.
Yes, it was.
It was like
it was in a while.
I didn't know I could see A-san like that.
It was a big event.
I heard it was a youth festival.
It was like Sanshinto.
Everyone jumped.
It was like Michijune.
I was so impressed at that time.
I'm glad I could see A-san.
It was fun.
The vibes were good.
I was so excited.
Really?
I wasn't invited.
Please watch it.
When can we see it?
Well,
I'm thinking about how to show it.
There is a story about distribution.
I made it by hand,
so I'd like to show it by hand.
I might do it occasionally.
People ask me how to watch it.
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Really? Thank you.
I have to do it.
Check out her Instagram.
Thank you.
When can I follow and watch it?
Yes.
Check out me.
You?
If I follow Akane,
what do you mean?
Follow Karin and watch me in the last scene of A-san.
Akane is one of the guests?
Yes.
Did she wear flashy clothes?
Yes.
She wore yellow.
The usual yellow.
I was told to dress like an islander.
So I wore a Kijimura dress.
Nice.
I'm looking forward to it.
After I got Karin's power,
she taught me how to play as an inner child.
Your mom is amazing.
I agree.
She influenced me a lot.
I'd like to meet her.
Mom is fast.
Butterfly pea is popular now.
About 10 years ago,
I imported three butterflies from Thailand.
There are a lot of butterflies in my garden.
I made butterfly pea tea.
If you squeeze a lemon, it turns purple.
When I was in high school,
my friend introduced me to Karin's tea.
I was like a witch.
I was doing that.
Butterfly pea is popular now.
By the way,
my dad is going to retire next year.
He lives in a trailer house.
It's like a camping car.
It's his lifestyle.
He is practicing it now.
Until last year,
he lived in a trailer house in Kyoto.
He has a lot of things to do.
He lives in Okinawa,
but he has to rent a trailer house.
He lives in a trailer house.
It's crazy.
I want to shoot a documentary about him.
It's interesting that he has so many things to do.
He is at the top of his game.
He is not living in a trailer house every day.
No, he is a salaryman.
Wait a minute.
He lives in a camping car.
He is a salaryman.
He lives in a camping car.
He is not a salaryman yet,
but he lives in a camping car in Okinawa.
It's crazy.
It's funny.
He is going to retire next year.
It sounds fun.
There are people who live in a boat.
My English tutor
is a teacher who lives in a boat
in Mexico Bay.
She lives with her husband and a dog.
When I was a student,
my tutor was a teacher
who lived in a boat.
But my father is a salaryman
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who lives in a camping car.
He lives in a camping car.
My father is a little different.
He is free.
It sounds fun.
I always talk about my mother
when I change my career.
I always talk about my mother
when I change my career.
I always talk about my mother
about my mother.
You are very special
to your mother.
Thank you.
I will take good care of her.
I will take good care of her.
My mother...
How long does it take?
About an hour and a half.
That's a lot.
But it's fast.
It's fast.
I can talk for an hour and a half.
It's fast.
10 days.
10 days.
But you two did it for 10 days.
How was it?
We did it for 10 days.
Most of the guests came
and I talked a lot.
Why did you decide to do this?
Why did you decide to do this?
I want to know.
I'm sorry if I talk about it.
I'm sorry if I talk about it.
Maybe...
Maybe I talked about it
when we shot the first episode.
Maybe I didn't.
It's been more than a year
since I started.
since I started.
We talked about how we started.
We talked about how we started.
Why did you decide to do this?
Why did you decide to do this?
It's been a year.
It's been a year.
It's been a year.
Why did you decide to do this?
Why did you decide to do this?
At first...
At first...
I was going to invite Akane.
I was going to invite Akane.
Akane has no idea what's going on.
Akane has no idea what's going on.
I felt it a lot.
I felt it a lot.
Akane was following me.
I don't know what it was
but she was having fun.
I don't know what it was
but she was happy to have it like that.
If we didn't do it,
it literally means nothing.
if we didn't do it, it literally means nothing.
While doing this for myself,
while seeing the reaction of the people
I have an idea.
I want to do something about Okinawa.
I want to do something about Okinawa.
Parts of this world
and my rankings
I want to do something about Okinawa.
You have to make your feelings come out, you have to make it bigger.
And then you become a woman version of Joe Logan.
That's how it was, but recently...
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Recently, it's all about reality.
From the beginning, it's all about reality.
How is it?
I talk about this a lot.
In the world, almost everything...
Not almost everything, but most of the things are not real talk.
TV and media.
That's why I'm glad I made that content.
I think it's very real.
It's the first time I've spoken like this.
I've been on a radio show, but I've never said,
I've never said, I'm going to sleep.
Me too.
I'm talking with my voice out.
I don't say, I'm going to sleep.
It's the first time I've spoken like this on the sofa.
That's why I'm happy.
It's very real.
It's very real, Karin.
When we're doing it together,
we have a hard theme.
What I want to do with that is
I want to make it a habit to polish my intelligence.
I want people to listen to me.
I want to feel everyone's potential.
I want to be able to be like Minami.
I haven't grown up yet, so I can't say anything.
I want to grow up slowly.
But anyone can do it.
That's my long-term vision.
As for the guests...
I always think about the guests.
For example, 20 years from now,
I want the guests to be able to listen to my children and grandchildren.
I want it to be an archive.
I'm the only one here today.
I want to record myself as of today.
I want people to be able to listen to it.
I don't know what kind of era we're living in.
I think it's great.
I'm particular about my voice.
I don't have prejudices.
It's my voice, so it's easy to listen to.
I think that's one of the reasons.
Listening to someone's voice
is easy to express in my own description.
That's why I like Onsen Media.
You remember it well.
I see.
I like that, too.
When you order something...
Mikasa Restaurant?
Oh, that's Mikasa.
I called her for 5 minutes, but she was like,
Oh, it's my mom.
I like that.
That's good.
That's a good topic to use.
It's good to have a guest,
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but it's good to listen to the two of you
talking about stuff in Okinawa.
That's good.
But that's just a real talk.
That's real.
I think that's really good.
We're talking about nothing.
Like in the car.
I heard that before I went to bed.
A heavy listener.
I heard it while I was sleeping.
Thank you so much for coming
as a guest who understands us all.
Thank you, Akane.
I'm happy.
We're getting a lot of support.
I'm happy.
I'm happy.
Do you speak Japanese?
No.
Every time I listen to the radio,
I feel like I'm being polished.
I'm getting closer to myself.
How do I say this?
I feel like I have a meaning to life.
I feel like I have a meaning to life.
I'm just...
I'm just...
I'm just...
I'm just...
I'm just...
I'm just...
I'm just...
I'm just...
Even after I do it,
even after I do it,
I can't sleep.
My brain is working so hard.
Sometimes I can't sleep.
I feel like I'm influencing my daily life
I feel like I'm influencing my daily life
I feel like I'm influencing my daily life
That's great.
That's great.
That's cool.
It's great content.
It's great content.
I listen to my own radio.
That's good.
I've been listening to other people's radio lately.
I've been listening to other people's radio lately.
I listen to my own radio.
I listen to my own radio.
I listen to my own radio.
There are so many radio stations in the U.S.
It's fun.
It's fun.
It's fun.
It's good for your voice, too.
But for the people who are coming, I want them to be able to relax.
It's a space where you can relax.
That's great.
It's awesome.
It's really cool.
For the first 10-15 minutes, everyone is like,
I have to do it properly.
But from the middle, it's like a digital talkative.
A digital talkative.
It's a talk full of thoughts.
It's that moment.
There is no camera,
and there is no host.
We always talk in different places.
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It's the best.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for coming.
Yes.
Karin's Instagram and Chimugana's update,
you should check on your Instagram?
Yes.
Is that okay?
Yes, thank you.
K-A-R-I-N.
Island dot.
I don't know.
I don't know the details.
It will come out soon.
Karin Miyagi.
Thank you.
I live in LA, so I want to show my activities in Okinawa.
I want more people to feel the same way.
I want more people to gather and do events like this,
and become talkative.
I want more people to lose their sociality and talk more.
I don't want to be categorized.
I don't want to have the same activities or rivals.
I want to be talkative.
I want to do events.
I don't want to do what adults planned.
I want to do what we planned.
Sounds fun.
Sounds fun.
You can do it in LA, Okinawa, and Tokyo.
There are a lot of people who think about Okinawa.
I want to be a DJ in Minami.
Sounds good.
Can I be a talkative DJ?
A talkative DJ.
I'll do it while talking.
That's annoying.
I'll talk to myself.
I've been thinking like this lately.
I don't like it.
I'm listening.
Heavy, heavy.
Listen.
Sounds fun.
Let's do something.
Let's catch up in the future.
It was so fun.
Let us go to LA to visit you, too.
Yay.
I made friends in LA.
We're in the middle of Okinawa.
People who play with Okinawa wherever they go.
That's all for today.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Bye.
Talkative.
Digitalkative.
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