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Hi, what's up guys? This is IYASASA RADIO by Akane and Minami.
In this radio, we are going to talk about random topics in Okinawan, Japanese and English.
こんにちは、イヤササレディオです。こんにちは、イヤササレディオです。
ここでは、ウチナーイントネーションと英語で2人のインテリスティングなトピックスを紹介します。
イェーイ!
二回目。
二回目です。
前回は、アカネに関する紹介と、アメリカに来た話とか大学の話を聞いたので、
次はもっと具体的な英語の勉強方法とかを聞いていこうと思います。
はい。
具体的な、
like, what exactly did you do to improve your English skill?
スピーキングだったら、
ヤミは歌、人のインタビューの動画とかめっちゃ聞いたりとか、
like, I literally reading the rap lyrics itself and I repeat it again like how to pronounceとか、
ショーをサブタイトルを使ってなんかするとか、
でも、色々あるけど、
アカネは一番なんていうの?
What's the most helpful or like good study method?
When it comes to reading and writing,
you just need to read the book.
で、
Memorize the vocabulary.
That's all.
声に出して読むってこと?
違う。
Just reading with your eyes.
And you search every vocabulary you don't know?
Sometimes, when I have time.
それ、たぶん、一番嫌なやつかも。
なんで?
無理。
Like, I can't read the book.
When I was in school, like, junior high and high,
I was studying English by book.
Like, reading, like,
I tried to read faster because time is limited when you have test,
and you need to memorize the vocabulary
because you don't know a lot of words in English.
文法とか、
past tenseとか。
When you say like...
イディオム。
イディオム is useful.
だから、
When you're reading the book,
like, you just read through all of it?
Or like, you're reading and understanding
and then taking time and finish?
Or like, you...
最初の手段でただ読むだけだったら、
like, you go back to start it
until you understand everything.
何週も回って読むのか、
一冊だから、
なんていうの?
調べながら。
わけないとできないはず。
Like,
First, you need to know the vocabulary.
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はい。
First, like,
喋るときも、
speakingとかwritingとか
readingとかも知らんかったら
今のは意味わかんないじゃん。
だから、
you need to memorize the word first.
じゃあ、
じゃあ、
だって、
You need to read couple times
same book, right?
なんかボキャブラリーブックあるじゃん。
何とか単語とか。
あ、あ、
待って待って待って待って。
ちょっと待って。
ブックって、
like, I imagine like a novel
or like a science fiction kind of thingの
ブックじゃなくて、
English studyのブック。
そうそうそう。
ボキャブを読むわけ。
やっと意味わかった。
だから、
なんで小説とか
何回も読むのか、
一冊をめっちゃ調べる。
You can't understand when you don't know the vocabulary.
だから、
何言ってるの?って思ったわけ。
だから、
When you see like anything
newspaper and
何て言うの?
Instagramでもwhatever、
When you don't know the words,
you need to search on Google.
Google is amazing.
だから。
で、
Searching、
Searchingでやって、
You know some words
and then you need to put together.
Then when you need
なんか、
文法って何て言うの?
Grammar。
Then after that,
you need to study grammar.
How to use it.
It's easyじゃん。
え、待って待って待って。
It's so different like
how I approach
to learn Japanese.
Englishだからもう
全く知らなかったし、
死に。
何?
ウケる。
だから、
それは、
だから、
勉強用さ。
When you,
なんか、
That's the most helpful way
なんでしょう。
うん。
まだなんか
コアの部分として。
もっと
Effectiveって感じ、
それは。
で、
違う、
聞いて。
それで、
聞いてる。
Then after that,
you can read
like actual
novel and book thing.
Like what you actually
want to readね。
そう。
That's all about
reading and writing.
うんうんうん。
And next,
I will talk about
speaking and listeningね。
これは、
It's totally different
待って待って待って。
一個一個潰していくけど、
リーディングのこと
今言ったんでしょう。
そのブックを読むで、
Like,
do you have any suggestion
like what kind of book?
なんかただの単語なのかとかさ、
単語ブックとか、
Like,
you can google it。
なんか、
なんとかレボーの
vocabularyとか。
なんか、
you're so logicalだね。
なんていうの?
めっちゃ、
めっちゃ正論を
ぐさぐさ言われて、
そうですね、
としか言えないんだよ。
だけど、
That's how I learned it.
I like studyだったから。
そういうイメージがない、
明らかに。
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めっちゃ勉強ばっかしてたから、
高校生の時とかは、
だからそういう風に
English skill
を
improved
うんうんうん。
だったけど、
When you wanna go
easier way,
you should have
American friends
in Okinawa.
Exactly。
何だろう。
え、待って、
今リーディングね。
うん。
リーディングは、
本で分かったよ。
読み物するとか、
難しいものを知る。
うんうん。
なんか、
留学とか行ったらさ、
本ばっかり読むじゃん。
なんか、
エッセイ書いたりとか。
そういうものって
単語力がないと
できないわけ。
はい。
You need,
necessarily have the vocabulary skill.
For me,
だけどね。
うん。
だけど、
それって、
もう、
世の中の全部の
vocabを覚えるって
無理じゃん。
無理、だって
I can not speak
だから、
You should know a nuance.
だから、
それは、
それは?
それは、
ニュアンスは、
あの、
You can learn from movieとか
radioとか
anything
mediaとか
なんか
TV showとか。
で、
だって、
When you,
In real life,
People don't use difficult words
in dictionary,
でしょ?
Correct.
だから、
これをやって、
あれをやって、
Put togetherしたら、
なんか、
You can speak English.
今のよくない?
これをやって、
あれをやって、
Put togetherしたら、
You can speak English.
English.
これはいいと思う。
You can speak...
Speaking, writing...
あ、スピーキング
ちょっと待って、まだまだそこまで行ってない。
これメモしたから。
はい、
じゃあ、
Reading...
じゃあ、待って。
みなみがホストだから。
あの、流れはみなみがやる。
今は、
はい、
She explained about
how to brush up
your reading skill.
Yeah.
でも、なんか、
今なんか、
What you talk about was
not only reading stuff,
it's like a more basic
skill that you need to have
at least
to be a fluent
or, you know,
in...
or to get better
in all the way.
じゃあ、次は、
Speaking...
スピーキングとリスニングは一緒?
スピーキングとリスニングは
おすすめの
勉強法
勉強法は
The easiest way is
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having friends
who speak English.
Native speakers?
Doesn't matter.
Okay.
Native speaker is better,
だけど、
だけど?
だけど、
Someone who can speak English.
だったら、
どうすればいいかな?
どうやって
これに
でも、
You had a friend, right?
インプットした後、
アウトプットが必要みたいな感じ。
That's why you need to have a friend
like you can actually have a conversation.
When you speak,
you learn
more.
だから。
So, like,
do you have any advice
how to make friends
speaking English?
だって、そこまで行くにはさ、
You should go to the bar
and get some drink.
ハブとか行けばいい。
東京だったら、
ハブとかに行く?
Yeah.
Do you also
suggest
going to bar
and get friends for male?
If you're a girl.
If you're a girl,
maybe you should go to the bar.
Doesn't matter.
If you're a man,
you just talk to
like, I don't know,
a hidden girl.
I see.
I think that's the most effective.
I think it's easier.
So, did you go to the bar
to make friends?
I was working at the bar.
So, people came to me.
Okay, okay.
That's like,
you were working on the base
when you were in university.
Or maybe in New York.
And, yeah.
How was the job
on base?
Like,
did you enjoy?
Or,
like, what did you do?
I was working at the bar restaurant
on base.
And,
I was doing a waitress.
Waitress.
Taking order from the customers
and serving foods and drinks.
That's what I was doing.
When you,
since I was working on base,
I have a lot of customers
who speak English.
Then, I need to take order
in English.
Then, they need to understand
what I say.
So,
you can't go like,
can I take your order?
They don't understand.
Oh, the pronunciation is also a key.
Yeah.
You need to be fluent.
So,
you can't do that from the beginning.
You need to imitate people.
You act like,
like English speakers.
Ah, okay.
You need to practice imitating.
Okay, so,
in order to get that job
as a waitress or bartender,
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bartending to native speakers
or the people who speak English,
it's kind of hard,
hard to,
you know,
people who cannot speak English.
So,
you need to mimic people.
Yeah.
Like, what was the first mimicking?
Mimicking?
Before getting that part-time job on base,
you need to be able to mimic people
if you can't speak English.
Ah.
Like, watching shows,
and, you know,
shadowing.
I think shadowing is good.
You have, you, you,
you watch, like,
English movie or drama,
and then you get subtitles on Netflix,
and,
hmm,
how do you say it?
But,
I put the English subtitle first,
and you read it?
I read it.
You stop and read it?
But,
I don't know if I should know that.
What should I do?
At first.
But, at first,
I don't know what to do.
What should I do?
At first.
But, the first word I learned was
hang out.
What?
In English in real life?
No, no,
like,
I started mimicking.
Ah, hang out.
What kind of drama do you remember?
It's not drama, it's people.
Ah, people?
You learned from real people?
Yeah.
Hmm,
like,
in dramas and movies,
often,
in Japanese,
English websites,
they recommend Friends.
I don't like Friends.
Like, watching Friends.
I don't like Friends on TV.
I don't know why all the people
recommend to watch Friends
to study English.
Everyone,
I don't know why they like it,
but I like Akarine the most.
My favorite kind of drama is
spy movie,
but,
when you want to learn English,
you better watch,
like,
life,
I don't know,
like,
daily dramas.
Dramas.
You should watch dramas.
Because,
when you watch, like,
unrealistic thing?
No,
how do I say this,
I don't know,
spy movie,
action movie,
they really don't talk.
It's lame.
Ah, it's action.
It's lame.
FBI thing,
or,
like,
doctors,
in that case,
lawyers,
they use difficult words,
so,
it's really
unnecessary for beginning.
So,
you better watch,
like,
simple,
like,
boring.
If it's simple and boring,
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you can watch Friends.
Like,
in Friends,
Sorry,
if you are a fan of Friends,
I apologize.
Ordinary talk,
you can watch that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's better.
Like,
Okay,
now I get
why they suggest
watching Friends,
maybe?
If
it's right according to you.
Yeah.
After all,
it's about dramas.
I think it's similar.
About dramas,
I don't know English.
When you have a favorite song,
you can see
lyrics
on YouTube,
and
you get
what they say.
Yeah.
Then,
you need to search.
Yeah.
If you don't do that,
it's meaningless.
Yeah,
like,
even if you can see
lyrics or
lyrics,
like,
if you don't understand,
it doesn't have
any meaning.
Yeah,
like,
what was that?
Speed learning thing.
It doesn't make sense
at all to me,
but,
just like that,
even if you listen to it,
you need to stop it,
know it,
and use it,
to make it something.
But,
it's really like that,
um,
well,
it depends on people,
so,
any method,
like,
I don't deny anything.
It depends on your style
and what you like.
But,
okay.
Speaking,
I felt something
similar
with Minami.
Speaking,
you,
you better speak.
But,
by yourself,
you can write
a diary
in English.
When you want to,
want to know,
like,
how to pronounce Asian,
how to pronounce
words,
like,
accents,
pronunciation,
like,
mimic words,
how they talk.
Like,
a lot of Japanese people
cannot
say
L,
L,
L,
L,
L,
L,
or say,
L and R thing,
or...
like,
A,
B,
C,
D,
E,
F,
G,
пред長...
YERU.
Something really...
Like,
bas...
like,
yeah.
Basic.
Basic,
so you fix it
like,
surprising
side of,
something I didn't know.
It's like, eh, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
R is also...
Is R easy?
What is it?
Difficult to pronounce.
But isn't R for everyone?
Isn't it for TH as well?
Like, to bite your tongue.
I did this in elementary school.
That's why you are good at pronunciation.
Because I was scolded by Robert-sensei.
Okay, because you were scolded by Robert-sensei.
Because I was scolded by Robert-sensei.
But still...
He was like,
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What did you say?
He doesn't understand when I have
a wrong accent and pronunciation.
That's why I have a habit.
Oh, I see.
It's like you've been beaten up.
When you were little,
it must have been useful for pronunciation.
But also,
I think it's better to open your mouth
when you speak English.
Because you can't pronounce when you say mojo-mojo.
Because you can't pronounce when you say mojo-mojo.
Because your mouth is small,
it's hard to pronounce.
When you speak Japanese,
you don't have to say mojo-mojo.
You can speak Japanese without opening your mouth.
Yeah, yeah.
I was surprised
when my American friends say
when my American friends say
Are you really speaking?
No, they say like
when they imitate
like
nanana
They say like that.
Like everything is flowing.
Yeah, yeah.
But in America,
I think English is
more like speaking one by one.
Yeah, yeah.
And you can connect, right?
Yeah, when you become fluent enough,
then like...
Going to or gonna
Get it or get it
Yeah.
Gotta go.
And...
Ama
Ama?
Sorry, sorry.
Ama is like...
I've only said it in e-mails.
Ama is like... I've only said it in e-mails.
Rapper?
You can connect rapper.
Yeah, yeah.
I am a
I am a?
I am a.
So it's like y'all?
You all?
Like what's up, y'all?
Y'all.
Good, good.
Yeah, but
let's just do it without thinking.
It's difficult
how we've been doing it.
Yeah, but
that's the most interesting part
or the thing between me and you
because I think a lot.
I think like
over and over
and I was really shy.
So, wait.
I'll say that later.
You better not be shy
when you speak English.
I get it, but
this person...
I get it.
Different personality.
When I talk in Japanese,
I'm more like
I'm more like serious.
Right?
Especially when you're speaking
to people in mainland.
When you're talking to people
who are not from Okinawa.
Like, thank you for calling.
Do you get it?
Totally different.
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But like
when I speak English,
I'm more confident
and I'm more friendly.
And
it's not like
I'm outgoing.
Because
I'm mimicking that.
How they act.
So, when the language
changes,
how I act
also changes.
I get it.
Japanese and English
are a huge gap
in order to
even, you know,
to make one sentence,
maybe in English, you need to do like
five words, let's say.
And in Japanese, maybe you can say like
in one word and finish.
And without like any emotions.
Sometimes.
So, like,
the context is
each language has
the level of context.
Like, 文脈 thing.
And in Japanese,
Japanese has
the highest context.
As a language.
And in English,
the context is super low.
Like, you become more straightforward.
Yeah.
When I speak,
I fix my Japanese and
when I speak English,
I'm like,
no, no, I have more content.
If it's in English,
it's okay.
But in English,
I want to say something interesting,
but as soon as I speak English,
it's like, okay, bye-bye.
Nothing rude.
Yeah.
That's super interesting.
That's why your personality changes.
But I like American culture better.
In what?
In English culture.
Because they don't have
senpai, kouhai things.
You can call
their name.
But you're not talking about
language itself,
but how people
their relationship,
communication.
Your personality
is more like
I can be more myself.
Yeah, I get that.
Senpai, kouhai
are annoying.
I don't feel sorry
for them.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
You respect everyone, right?
I respect everyone,
but like,
tatemae is annoying.
Tatemae is annoying.
But tatemae thing is
Can I say
tatemae thing in English?
Tatemae thing is
like,
a problem between Japanese and English.
No, no.
Okinawan
vs
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Mainland Japanese
tatemae level
Tatemae thing
tatemae level
is so different.
Mainland Japanese
tatemae is like
if I scale 1 to 10,
it's like a 10.
Okinawan is like 3.
Their level is higher.
More casual relationship
in Okinawa.
It's like
Tatemae level is like
Wait, wait.
I calculate the level
how to get close
to their
real personality.
I think there are stages and gradations.
Like, when I
meet somebody new
in Mainland Japanese,
I need to call them with last name.
First name?
First name.
Let's call her Tanaka.
Last name.
If it's Tanaka-san,
I call her Tanaka-san first
and after maybe couple hanging out
or
working,
same thing,
if I'm lucky,
what should I call her?
If it's Tanaka Yukiko-san,
I can call her Yukiko-san.
But still,
most of the people I met in Tokyo
I still call them
with
last name.
I always ask
my colleagues
or new friends
I call me
Minami
but
they only call me
Minami-chan.
You don't have to call me
Chinen or Chinen-chan.
You can call me Minami.
That doesn't mean
they don't wanna get along with me.
I wanna talk about
the cultural difference
between Okinawa and mainland Japanese
in another video
so if I talk about it now,
I won't be able to stop.
It's Akane's video
so I'll talk about
speaking and reading.
Writing?
Let's talk about writing.
It's already over.
Wait.
I'm sorry.
Let's talk about English.
It's Akane's recommended
English Camp.
It's on Instagram.
I've never been there.
27:00
Wait.
It's not English Camp.
Never mind.
Going camping only speaking English.
It's actually a camp but
Instagram account's name is
Camp English.
English Camp.
The name of the app?
Not the app.
Account.
That's the way
you can have
native speakers
on the app.
Like a conversation class
through the internet.
One-on-one?
Yeah.
But it costs a lot.
Like a Skype English class?
Yeah, something like that.
I see.
I think you can
do that with speaking.
Speaking?
If you only do speaking,
the variation of the vocabulary
will decrease.
So it's important to have a balance.
That's amazing.
I didn't know
you can do a lot of things
at the same time.
Analytics.
I want you to do
more detailed stuff.
I see.
Akane's English experience.
It's very interesting
because it was so different
than mine.
Do you have
anything you want to say
about learning English?
That's it.
I think
that was a lot of information.
I want to
talk about
how to
improve
English skills,
but not the basics,
but more advanced stuff.
I don't know,
but a lot of stuff.
So that's it for today.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
For the second time,
let's talk about Minami.
You're going to talk about yourself.
And also you're going to ask
some questions, like the same thing.
Because
I've experienced so many different things.
I thought it was totally different from Akane's.
When we talked about this,
I was like, what if
I started to say the same thing?
I thought I should make friends
but it's totally different.
You have to study
before you study abroad.
You can't
absorb more.
That's right.
You should have
another goal
when you go
study abroad.
Wait, are you saying
the most important thing?
30:00
I don't know.
Are you saying
the purpose of studying abroad?
I was talking about the purpose of studying abroad.
Please go ahead.
What did you say?
The purpose.
When you go study abroad,
you should have another goal.
Not to
study English.
You can study English
in Japan.
You learn basic,
and then you can use
English at the time.
And then you go abroad
and do something else.
Like working holidays,
or
going to university.
If you
have some
speciality,
you can use it
as work there.
So you need to study Japanese.
If you have basic,
you can
communicate.
It doesn't have to be advanced.
First,
you should study by yourself
and then
go abroad.
If you can't study by yourself,
you should get some friends.
That's right.
If you study by yourself,
you can get along.
If you have friends,
you have to
talk to them.
Talk to them.
You need to speak
speak out English.
Then you need to listen.
That's how you communicate
with your friends.
You can do room share.
Room share?
In Japan.
If you do it in Japan.
I think it's good.
I've never done it, but it sounds good.
In any country,
for example,
if you have some friends
who speak Spanish,
but you can't speak Spanish,
you need to speak English.
Like a common language.
Yeah.
I speak English
with my Korean friends.
Korean friends, Japanese friends,
Chinese friends.
We speak English.
That's how we understand each other.
If you use it as a tool,
I think it's meaningful.
Even in Asia,
isn't the way you use English different?
It's totally different.
The intonation is different.
Japan is hard.
Yeah.
Asian countries.
English.
When Korean people
speak English,
it's so much similar to us.
I think.
But when European people
speak English,
it's faster.
They can read alphabets
so much faster than us.
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Yeah.
Depending on the original language,
if it's English,
I said it would be okay.
But
on the contrary,
there are parts that are too long.
For example, French or Spanish.
Some people say,
why do you speak so long?
There are people who are influenced by English.
When I say,
I just wanted to say I got it,
they say,
how can you speak English for so long?
There are people who can extend English.
I get it.
I understand what you say.
How can I say?
You can summarize it in one sentence.
It's like this.
For a long time,
foreigners who speak English
are foreigners.
Foreigners who don't speak English.
I thought there were a lot of people like that.
Maybe it's just talking.
That's all.
That's all.
What was it?
Wait.
So many things.
I thought we closed the conversation.
That's why.
Let's stop.
Let's do this again for the second time.
That's enough.
We're going to talk about Minami next session.
After that,
we're going to invite a guest
and
talk about something fun.
Interesting.
We're going to invite a guest
and talk about interesting things
about Okinawa.
We're going to pick up
something like that in English
and talk about our impressions
about Okinawa.
That's what we're going to do.
That's what we're going to do.
That's what we're going to do.
Okay, that's all for today.
Let's brush up more and more.
Everyone knows about me.
That's why.
You hate me too much.
You can die.
See you next time.
Bye-bye.
