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せーの What's up, amazing people? This is IYASASA RADIO by Akane and Minami.
In this radio, we are going to talk about random topics in Okinawan Japanese and English.
はいたい On the 20th, US President Trump issued an executive order stating that the federal government would recognize only two genders, male and female, and that changes would not be allowed.
The order mandates the use of the term sex instead of gender in government documentation.
Additionally, it requires that government-issued identifications such as passports be based on an unchangeable biological classification of an individual as male or female.
トランプ大統領は1月20日、連邦政府が男性と女性の2つの性別のみを認め、変更はできないとする大統領令を出した。
トランプ大統領は1月20日、連邦政府が男性と女性の2つの性別のみを認め、変更はできないとする大統領令を出した。
最後の一文むずいな。男性または女性という個人の変更を不可能な生物学的分類に基づくことを。
So it means, like, the sex you were born as is your sex.
ジェンダーは自分で決める?
ジェンダーは自分で決めるの?
決めてよかった?
時代 is finished by Trump.
In the states only.
まあ、ということです。
But, you know, since the Trump elected by a new US president, he changed a lot of law.
He tried to change the law.
まだ全部は確実には変わってないと思うんだけど。
He likes なんか白か黒って感じじゃん。
Black and white.
Black and white. 確かに。
Because the Democrats try to expand their, you know, acceptance じゃないけど。
広く受け入れますみたいなのが民主党のアピールポイントで。
共和党はどっちかというと何?Conservative.
そうだね。
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But, you know, all the gender stuff is so complicated.
Even in here.
I mean, Japan, you know, influenced by the US.
日本会社はいつもLGBTQのプロジェクトをしてるよね。
アメリカから来たの?
そうだね。
アメリカをコピーしてるんだ。
アメリカのプロジェクトを変えるんだ。
でも、日本はアメリカの状況に達していないと思う。
まだ遅れてたから、今止めてもそもそも進んでない可能性もあるよね。
確かに。
But, you know, we talk about like a gender-free bathroom.
それはit doesn't make sense to me.
だから、そういう意味でのsex is only male and female is make sense.
But, I think there are some people who is real transgender.
Yeah.
If the Trump is a gay guy, it's easier to say like you need to be female or male.
But, he's such a like a strong man say something strong things to people.
だから、なんか実際にトランスジェンダーとかさ、LGBTQの人だったら相当ショック。
まあ、いろんな人のシチュエーションによると思うけど。
まあでも、なんでそれを勧めたのかっていうのが一番気になる。
確かに。
えっと、そのDEI政策の廃止とその理由。
DEIっていうのがGender Equity Inclusion政策。
多様性を受け入れましょうみたいなやつで。
トランプ大統領は連邦政府の多様性事業を危険で屈辱的な政策と断じ、
政府機関でのDEIプログラムを廃止。
例えば、企業の多様性採用基準に対する政府支援を廃止して、
実力主義を強調。
で、LGBTQの権利制限、特にトランスジェンダー関連の法律を推進。
規制を推進か。ごめん。
とか。
なんかさ、多様性って言うと、
People start thinking about LGBTQ,
but 多様性 means like more men and women,
and black, white, Latino, Asian kind of gender equityとかだから、
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なんか必ずしもLGBTQってone of themなんだけど。
As we talked earlier that
この会社が今までダイバーシティを進めてきて、
で、やっとそれでマイノリティの人たちが上位に来れた。
ギリギリ。
He suddenly stopped doing that project.
And a lot of people lost their opportunities.
って考えたら、
実力主義かもしれんけど、
I think また白人の男の上司みたいな世界に自然と戻っていくような感じがする。
That's possible.
実力主義と言いつつ、
実力じゃないことにまた戻るような気がする。
一応本当にそれはある。
何て言えばいいか分からんけど。
そういう意味で、なんか
And also you said that a lot of kids know a lot of things about LGBTQ already.
何?
確かに。
子供でトランスジェンダーできるっていうのはちょっとびっくりだ。
本当にオーセンティフィッカリ性同一性障害。
どうでもいいさ。
別にどんな格好しようが、どんな子好きだろうが、
その子が男であろうが女であろうが、
別に良いっていうのが子供であれる意味っていうかさ。
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確かに。
良いことなのに、
それを将来的にはあなたの自由にバジャイナもペニスも飼えれますみたいな
教育が一部であったっていうのはどうなっていく?
実際に当事者だったら情報的にありがたいけど、
別に当事者じゃない人から知ったら
って感じだよね。
あと自分が当事者じゃないからわかんないけど、
例えば子供の時にちょっと、
例えば女の子だけど、
女の子好きかもってちょっと思うじゃん。
それは大きくなったらやっぱ違かったみたいなパターンもあるってことでしょ?
あるある。100%
てかそんなのめっちゃみんなもあると思う経験。
一瞬なんかあれって思うときとかってさ。
私大人になっていやどっちも好きかもみたいなオプションもある。
だからそういうのが、
何だろう、受け入れられすぎて子供の時に。
なんか大人になった時に、
あの時にあんなって言われなかったら普通になってたかもしれん。
まあ普通が何が普通かわかんないけど。
わかるよ。シス、ジェンダーっていうか女。
誘導されてなければみたいなのがあるのか?
絶対あるよ。
私誘導してたんじゃないかこの10年ぐらいって思うから。
誘導とかじゃなくて、ただ見とけばいいじゃん。
で、なんか、
同じセックスとかだけど、
プラスとかもあるよ。
これだけは言いたいんだけど、
性的指向。
自分がどの性を好きかっていう対象じゃん。
クリーナーだと。
で、待って。
L, C, D, Tは?
TQ is a whole different people.
What is T?
Transgender.
And Q is queer だから、
Who is like a non-binary とか、
Who doesn't know what they are.
Like in the grey zone.
Including other Q, or the plus.
Or the A, B, C, D, E, F, G.
だから、いつもこの、
They put in the same category.
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Like homosexual and transgender.
But those two is a totally different thing.
だから、なんか、
それでも、なんて言うんだろう。
普通のマジョリティーの人は、
考え始める。
Put LGBTQ in one box.
で、もっと混乱するじゃん。
で、女と男しかないの?
つまり、なんか、
同性愛もとか、
認識がどんどんずれてくると、
訳わからんけど、
このトランプが言いたいことは、
ただのその、
性転換。
性別変更の危険性と、
例えば、
In a sport,
the men who transform to a woman,
they are more competitive than biological women,
so they can win.
It's not fair to us.
But it's not fair to men.
Does it make sense?
So it's all unfair to all women.
っていう構図になってるから、
それはちゃんと、
なんて言うんだろう。
Born as biological what?
で、
参加できる競技とか、
分けないと、
ごめん、トランスフォームした人、
かわいそうって言うかもしれんけど、
それやらないと、
人口の半分女なのに、
どうなるの?ってなるから、
それはいいっても。
それは今度、
普通の女性の方が、
弱い立場になっちゃうからってことでしょ?
そう。
Then it's not equal,
it's not 実力主義。
That's why Trump wants to
forbid that.
Yeah, distinguish.
あと、
Even in Japan,
we don't have to,
we don't need to get surgery
to change everything,
to claim that they are women.
We don't have to get surgery,
we just need to say,
私の性自認は女なんです。
言い方古いけど、
みたいな格好して、
でもトランスジェンダーなんちゃら本は、
みたいなのがあったら、
それを南なんかがジャッジしたら、
お前男なのに入ってくんな、
みたいなことをしたら、
南なんかが犯罪者みたいになるわけじゃん。
それもおかしいさ。
だから何をもって、
これはセロ黒つけないで、
グレーゾーンにしたほうがいいんじゃないかなと思う。
そう、グレーゾーン。
だって、
Those kind of people already exist.
っていうかもう、
They are existing all the timeじゃん。
Yeah.
で別に、
それで迫害じゃないけど、
すごいトランスジェンダー殺人されたりしてる人って、
アメリカでいっぱいいるから、
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それは守ってあげないといけないと思うんだけど、
でもそしたら次は、
女性も守ってあげないといけないさ。
うんうん。
だから、
その間を設けるしかないよね。
そうだね。でも間が嫌いって。
トランプは。
間の、
公共施術を間のやつを設ければいいんじゃん。
だけど、
例えばパスポートとか住民票とかは、
なんか
バイオロジコウィッチをちゃんと書く。
生まれながらの生。
その人が
オポジットセックスでいきたいんだったら、
そしたらわかるけど、
難しいね。
でも、
トランスフォーム
何を?
反対するの。
何を?
トランスジェンダーとか。
I mean, like, Trump-like people.
They're trying to hide what they just said.
Unfair.
Unfair.
And too much diversity.
What's at the root of that?
Do you want to increase the number of people?
At the root of that,
I think there's a conservative way of thinking.
It's a traditional way of thinking.
Like, this is how it should be.
Basically, there are only men and women.
And children are only born from men and women, right?
Something like that, right?
Yes, yes, yes.
That's true.
Well, that thought also makes sense.
But, like, unlike Japan,
if you, you know,
if you're digging into what US education system
taught to kids
in a, you know, these LGBTQ kind of class,
it's, like, overwhelming, disgusting.
If you look it up, you'll find out
what kind of class it was,
and what kind of class it was.
If you look it up, it's quite a mess.
It doesn't have anything to do with the perpetrator.
In a way, Minami is the perpetrator, right?
LZ, L, right?
But even so,
I'm really concerned about kids.
I don't want kids to worry about
who they are.
And they're doing what they want to do.
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They're doing what they want to do.
And the perpetrator is the one
who's the most guilty.
The perpetrator is picking up too much information.
Yes, they should just leave it alone.
If they're the ones who said it,
they should just do it.
They already have, like,
what is it,
skill to dig all the information already, right?
By themselves.
They're listening to everything on the internet.
But you know,
the more we talk,
it's more complicated.
And then we cannot
get into the conclusion.
Like, a good conclusion.
And we don't even know.
The world does not even know
what transgender is.
I'm really interested in how it's going to be in the States.
Right.
From now on.
Like, if there's actually a protest,
what will it be like?
People who support Democrats
are posting on the Instagram
videos
with crying.
Like, there are people
who are making weird appeals.
Even Selena Gomez.
Right now, it's really dynamic.
It's interesting to watch, but...
They have a strong mentality.
It's going to affect Japan as it is.
I wonder what will happen to Japan.
So,
I mentioned
the LGBTQ
TQ.
In the example of
the protest against
the D.E.I. policy,
within the Republican Party,
there is a strong criticism
that D.E.I. creates
reverse discrimination
and reduces opportunities
for white males
to participate
and create opportunities for white men.
Reverse Discrimination.
Hmm.
Because diversity has fallen too much,
it creates reverse discrimination.
Is it true?
But it makes sense though.
Did they really reduce
the opportunities for white males?
No.
They reduced some of it,
but I feel like
they were trying to
reduce the difficulties for white males.
The suicide rate
of American males
was quite high.
They were
pushing the minorities too much.
The majority
was the minority.
There were people
who were suffering.
But not all white males
are like that.
There are a lot of people
who have fallen.
They were in the middle class
and felt stress.
If there were people like that,
diversity, women,
rainbow,
and harassment
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made it hard
for white males to live.
In that sense,
they reduced
the opportunities for white males.
I don't know.
It's good that it's about ability.
This is the first time
I can test my ability.
The real ability.
Without diversity.
But the US
is like a very
meritocracy
than Japan
entire of my life.
That's right.
From the Japanese point of view,
America is already
about ability.
There was an image
that only looked at the facts.
Well, only the people in the US
know that.
I feel like they were prioritized
in the last 10 years.
That's right.
I don't know if it's related to this,
but when I was in New York
and doing fashion
work,
always gay people
have
advantages of
doing a lot of things
in the fashion industry.
Is it because of the fashion industry?
It doesn't have to be
fashion. Hair, makeup,
design,
gay people
are more famous.
They stand out.
They stand out.
Of course, they have talent,
but
straight people
suddenly feel like a minority.
That's right.
I felt like that.
After all,
models walking on the runway
are good at showing
how gay people look.
There are many designers.
That's why
straight people are normal.
But in the fashion industry
or show business industry,
male gays
are really good at
expressing themselves
and pursue
what women is
or what men is
extremely.
They make trends.
The gay stylist does the Kim Kardashian
clothing
and people see it.
Everyone mimics Kim Kardashian,
but it came from a gay person.
They are really at the center
of the trend.
I think it's because
they are talented
and rich.
But there are
people like that.
They stand out.
Sexual minority people
are
more worried about
what sex is
than straight people.
They think twice or three times.
That's why
they are good at
showing
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masculinity or femininity.
They can do it naturally.
But that's only male gay.
Not all lesbians.
I see.
This is the world's
biggest mystery.
I think only male gays
have aesthetic sense.
I think it depends on
the society.
I don't think it has anything to do
with fashion.
I think
gay people
or drag queens
pursue women.
They research
how to walk,
how to show,
how to do make-up.
They research
beauty.
That's why
they are in the fashion industry.
If you are a lesbian,
you should
not
pursue femininity.
You can't
pursue masculinity.
That's why
they don't have
aesthetic sense.
That's why there aren't
many lesbians in the fashion industry.
It's not vice versa.
Lesbians have a lot of models.
A lot.
I have an image
that cute girls
have a lot of lesbians.
True.
But women mostly are
bisexual though.
It's difficult.
Do you have a model or designer?
Not many.
It's like
you have to polish your aesthetic sense.
You like women.
Models are cute.
They are cute too.
True.
I was like,
they are all naked,
but they are lesbians.
There are a lot of women.
I see.
According to this,
big companies
like
minority groups,
LGBT groups,
and
position groups
are trying to
get rid of them.
I see.
It's a long story,
so I will say something else.
Trump
Since he became
the president,
he has signed
a lot of laws.
There are a lot,
but as a topic of diversity,
gender is only for men and women.
He has abolished
the DEI.
He is looking for support
for transgender children.
This is
for transgender children
under the age of 19
He is looking for support
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for transgender children
under the age of 19
Should we stop?
Should we be healthy?
Well,
let me explain
in detail.
For example,
There is a growing period.
There is a growing period,
and if you do it once,
you go back to something else.
It's hard to go back.
Hormone injections
reduce life expectancy.
They are not mature enough
to be a transgender.
You can be an adult and do it.
If you want to.
That's all.
Stop excessive brainwashing
in school education.
What I talk about
is not to teach
specific gender and personality
in school, but to promote
the idea of
making America great again.
Why?
Do you like America too much?
Do you admire
the old America?
Make America
great again.
Trump's policies are all like that.
He is like a Showa man.
But,
if you immigrate this much,
patriotism is important.
Even in a war,
if you are not a patriot,
you can't hire soldiers.
American patriots are good at branding.
If you promote the idea
of making America great again,
you are promoting
division.
Yes, you are promoting division.
So,
I don't think it's wrong.
I don't want to immigrate.
Diversity is dangerous.
Men's women's sports are
prohibited.
Transgender players
are not allowed to
participate in women's sports.
Doesn't that make sense though?
I don't understand
those people
against this.
It makes sense though.
It's not fair.
It's like
doping.
So,
why?
I was surprised
when I heard that.
Of course,
I want to ask.
If you only think about human rights,
it's like that.
There are not many people
who make a transgender framework.
But, I feel like
sports players are easy to become transgender.
Especially the women.
I was doing a lot of club activities.
I was doing sports.
There are a lot of
boyish people.
If the women
become a man,
they become weak.
Physically.
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Women become a man.
They lose in sports.
I feel like there are a lot of those patterns.
There are a lot of women who became men and
play sports.
Are there a lot of people
who want to make it possible?
I don't know.
They become weak, so they don't want to play.
So,
is it better to make it possible?
Because,
transgender players who accept women
can't participate in women's sports.
It's the opposite.
Like Akane said,
women can't participate in men's sports.
They can't win.
If they win, it's amazing.
But, figure skating
looks like a woman.
It's beautiful.
But, the number of jumps
is different.
But, make it simple.
Why not?
What is this?
This was suspended for a day.
In the end, Trump took over and returned.
So, Trump
is
saying that
he is not against
TikTok.
But, he is quite sensitive
to social media.
So, he said that
he prioritizes
SNS representatives
and interviews them.
I think it depends on social media.
Because, TikTok is
Chinese.
Because it's Chinese,
it makes sense.
I think it's a big deal.
And,
the government will end censorship.
If there is censorship
for fake information,
the government will ban
freedom of speech.
Which means,
you see,
Mark Zuckerberg,
the Meta CEO,
was talking on the Joe Rogan podcast
that
within the COVID
period,
the government
tried to control
their information about vaccination.
That's a good thing.
Seems like a good thing.
It's difficult, so let's skip.
Yes, the US military.
Here we go again.
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I really don't like transgender people.
Transgender people
can't join the military.
They can't?
So,
it's okay if they are not transgender?
It's okay if they have a different mind?
It depends on
whether they get surgery
or whether they get registered
that they are
transformed.
They can, you know,
dress whatever they want.
But,
like I said before,
Is it because the military gets weaker?
It's because they get weaker.
Like I said before,
transgender people
basically
care about
whether they are male or female.
They don't care about the opposite.
So,
is it their
crime?
If a man
becomes a woman
and joins the military,
what are the
disadvantages to the country?
There are no
disadvantages to the country.
But,
the military is basically
for men and women.
If I were
an ex-man
but now woman
in the south,
if I'm a female marine,
I don't want to train with them
or sleep with them.
That doesn't mean
I'm against transgender people.
But, there is
there could be a dangerous one.
Right?
What do you think?
Is it because they are strong?
Let's say Akane is a marine.
She went to a boot camp.
There was an ex-male
woman there.
She was told to make a buddy
and sleep in the same box
Can she trust him?
I think he will protect her.
Because he is strong.
He is a good person.
If there is something inside.
That's it.
But, if he is a versus enemy,
he is strong.
There are more men.
I think make military looks weaker.
I think so.
I don't know.
I don't know if he can
do his job well.
But, everyone in the military
does physical training.
I think there is a limit.
It's the same as sports players.
It's difficult.
Next.
We will make the soldiers who
are not allowed to get the vaccine
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work again.
We will give them a chance
to work again.
Great.
What do you think?
I feel diversity.
Diversity for people who
don't get the vaccine?
I don't know.
No.
Let's look at it neutrally.
Because the vaccine
is something that comes into your body.
That's right.
Of course,
you can get the vaccine
when you are in the military
or at school.
But,
you can't get the vaccine
when you are in the military.
But, the COVID-19 vaccine
is a recent thing.
Next.
There are many other things.
What we know
is that
there is an emergency measure
to prevent the
large-scale wildfire
in Los Angeles.
Please do that.
Please do that.
Please do that.
The change of the name of the country.
It's interesting.
The Mexican version
was changed to the American version.
It's the northern part of Alaska.
You like America a lot.
Of course.
Make America great again.
The fact that
John F. Kennedy's case
was not released.
It's scary.
I think it's great
that they are
releasing
things that interest us.
They are saying
that they will destroy
the deep state.
I want Japan to
imitate that attitude.
By doing that,
I'm afraid of the riot
and civil war.
A wildfire is like
a return from the Democratic Party.
That's true.
If you look up the information.
Before the wildfire,
the dam was stopped.
Really?
The fire support budget was cut.
The LA mayor
was partying in Africa.
It was all planned.
It was not planned,
but they didn't care.
I don't know
what's good or bad about LA.
The California wildfire
is a place where wildfires are easy to happen.
They didn't say anything.
They just took measures.
The wildfire this time
was also
divided into several parts.
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It's like a question mark.
It's like a conspiracy.
It's like a conspiracy.
And
they simply
didn't take any measures.
Yeah.
It's like that.
I see.
I see a lot of
houses on fire
and trees on fire.
I feel a lot of things.
Did they burn
the house on purpose?
The LA wildfire this time
burned the whole
residential area.
Yeah.
And before the fire happened,
there were a lot of people who got fire insurance.
Yeah.
I heard that too.
Is it true?
I think it's a conspiracy theory,
but it seems to be true.
I can't say anything
because I'm not there,
but it seems to be true.
One more thing.
The president's order was withdrawn
to make it easier for women to
abstain from abortion and abortion
in order to make access to medical care
.
Which means
it's banned now.
I think they want to increase the number of descendants.
Yeah.
America first.
The problem of abstinence is difficult.
Hmm.
It's difficult.
But
I think it's better to
make a policy
on what to do
with the child
who was born.
Yeah.
Assuming that it can't be done.
In Japan,
they started to fill in all the information
without revealing it.
Yeah.
Maybe the first
10-year-old girl was born
recently,
she can leave only her insurance
and letter to the hospital
so that the child can
give it to her when she wants to know the information.
After that,
she can go to the obstetrics and gynecology
and focus on
giving birth safely.
After that,
she can go to an orphanage
or a nursing home
and already have a parent.
I think that's
good for the child.
I think it's good.
I wonder if it's good.
You may think a lot of things,
but in the end,
you think,
thank you for giving birth.
Well, it depends on the environment.
I don't know.
It depends on the environment of the facility
and the parent.
If you think about it,
even if you don't abstain,
42:00
it's not safe,
but if you fill it in,
in the end,
you have to be more conscious
of the parents.
I'm talking about Japan now,
but in Japan,
parents are not popular,
but in America,
it's pretty normal.
So,
going to the facility
is one of the ways,
but
you should change the rules more.
Potential parents
Potential parents
There's a decrease in birth rates,
and the number of unidentified children is increasing.
If that's the case,
it's hard to
raise children.
It's still
pretty rare, isn't it?
But
if the parents
don't have the qualifications
to raise children,
abstinence is an option.
That's right.
But if that child
is also raised in a facility,
it's pretty hard.
Yeah.
To make it easier to access,
the president's order was withdrawn.
In other words,
he made it impossible.
In America.
It's a bit of a problem
to make it impossible.
I think it depends on the state,
but as a president's order,
yes.
It depends on the religion.
It depends on the religion.
It depends on the religion.
It's a completely different way of thinking.
It depends on how far
you think about
what happens after you're born.
It changes.
But
in the UK,
after pill,
if you drink it
within 48 hours of having sex,
you won't have an erection.
I think it's better
to make it easier
to access
that kind of
instantaneous denial
rather than
abstinence.
I think it's better
to make it easier
to access
that kind of
instantaneous denial
rather than
abstinence.
If you think about
the fact that you might not
have enough money to go to the hospital,
it's like
putting it in the school nurse's office.
That's scary.
Just take the pills
properly.
You can't put it like candy.
Someone should know
who the nurse is.
If someone
who has the duty
45:00
is nearby,
you can access it.
Even pregnant women
have that kind of place.
If you know that,
how many months
do you have to abstain?
It's dangerous
for both women and children.
It costs money.
You can't abstain
without saying it.
How many months?
Most of the time.
Instantaneous
denial
rather than
abstinence.
Some young people
are born
because they are lonely.
If you don't
have a family,
it's like
having your own family
for the first time.
Some people
don't have money
but choose to abstain.
Because they are lonely.
If you want to raise them,
yeah.
But
about abstinence,
the two cases
I mentioned earlier
are about direct access
to the nursing home.
This is about Japan.
It's the same
with sex education.
It's hard
to think about
sex.
I don't like
transgender people.
Thinking about
transgender is like
thinking about
how the universe
was created.
It's hard.
But D.I.
It doesn't have to be
about gender.
It can be race.
Race or gender.
Male or female.
That's all.
But
they want to make the world
competitive.
They want to improve
America itself.
Basically,
healthy
men and women.
I want them to be active.
That's what I feel.
We have to think about
gender and LGBT.
But
it's better to stop
the diversity
and think again.
I personally
agree with that.
A new era of diversity has come.
That's all for today.
Bye.
