Ep246 はじめてのシール帳

今までシール帳という存在を知らなかった人はどれだけいるのでしょうか。

唐突に文具沼にハマっている私は、最近初めてシール帳やシール交換などの文化を知りました。

知る機会が本当になかったのか、記憶からごっそり抜け落ちているだけなのか…！

しばらく沼の住人になるかと思いますので、文具のおすすめ情報などあればいつでも歓迎しています。

【今回話題にした文具】

◆トラベラーズノート（京都限定の本体購入）

◆Bine（後語りでロルバーンダイアリーでロルバイン作った報告）

※自分が使ってて大人っぽいと表現してるシールはMIND WAVEさんのCHOOSY LIFE STICKERです

【📮 おたよりフォーム】https://forms.gle/AGFEcrhH4iJixsib7

【🎩X】@hironan_bo (中の人…ボー氏) #ヒロなん

【👕SUZURI】

https://suzuri.jp/fuji_hiron #suzuri

【👚UP-T】

https://up-t.jp/creator/65d456f026e20

Summary

In this episode, the hosts share their nostalgic memories of using stickers, exploring the cultural significance of sticker albums, known as seal-cho, and noting the rise in popularity of stickers among adults in recent years. They highlight the emerging trend of sticker collecting among adults, particularly focusing on products from brands like Midori and Mindwave, as well as the nostalgic appeal of sticker books. The hosts reflect on the evolution of sticker culture, reminiscing about their childhood experiences with stickers and stationery, while examining how adults engage with these cherished items today. Additionally, one of the hosts discusses their nostalgia for stickers and the process of creating a travel notebook using masking tape and various stickers, emphasizing the charm of collecting and exchanging them.

思い出のシール帳

Speaker 1

La la la la la, run, run, run, run.

Fujiwara Hiro no Nanny Arou.

前々回やったっけ?

もう今日、今からトラベラーズノート 買いに行くんですよ。って言ったの覚えてます?

Speaker 2

うん、先輩会にね。

Speaker 1

そうそうそう。

で、ちゃんと買いに行ったんですよ。

トラベラーズノート。

京都限定のガラとかがあって。

Speaker 2

あ、かわいい!

Speaker 1

そう、かわいい。

Speaker 2

結構大きいノートですね。

Speaker 1

これ、レギュラーサイズですね。

Traveller's Note has two different sizes

This one and the passport size

The passport size one has a hat

This one is a little too big to carry around

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's a little too long

Speaker 1

This one has a diary-like refill from the same year

I haven't used this one yet because it's from next year

There's also a Kyoto-only refill

I'm going to keep a record of eating out with this

I'm going to make it look like I went to Inoda Coffee

I'm going to make it look like I ordered this from Inoda Coffee

Speaker 2

What? It says what?

Speaker 1

This is a sticker

I put a sticker on it

Speaker 2

Did you write the word Inoda Coffee on the sticker?

Speaker 1

Yes, I did

It looks like there are a lot of stickers

When I started doing this, I found out

that stickers were very popular among adult women

It looks like a sticker

When I looked up things like notebooks and notes,

I found out that stickers were popular

Naturally

I'm a stationery YouTuber

and I put in a lot of stationery information

I don't want to collect a lot of stickers

I want to decorate like this

so I talk with a sense of scale like this

I found out that there are a lot of people in the world who collect a lot of stickers

I knew that Tama-chan and other young girls

loved stickers

Speaker 2

Have you ever been addicted to stickers?

Speaker 1

I wanted to talk about the fact that there is no such thing

Really?

I wanted to ask you about the culture of stickers

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, yes

Yes!

Speaker 1

About stickers

I didn't know about stickers until now

No way!

I think I was naturally converted to the word purikura-cho

I think I was listening to the word seal-cho while thinking that I was talking about purikura-cho

Seal-cho was really a notebook with a sticker on it

Is that so?

So you're a person who's lost that

I love stickers

Speaker 3

Both of us didn't know about it at all

Speaker 1

We didn't know about it at all

Speaker 3

We didn't know about its existence or concept

Speaker 2

I think it was when I was in elementary school

It was a long time before purikura-cho

Speaker 1

Yes, that's right

Speaker 2

There was a time when I collected cute stickers

Speaker 1

I love them

Speaker 2

I bought stickers and put them on the seal-cho

Speaker 1

Did you put them on a normal paper at the time?

No, I put them on and took them off

It's been there since then

Of course

Speaker 1

I don't know why I didn't know about this

I feel like I didn't even look around

Speaker 2

I exchanged stickers with my friends

In my case, my cousin was the seal-cho

Speaker 1

Yes, yes

I didn't understand the meaning of exchanging stickers

Speaker 3

There wasn't anyone doing it

I don't have any

Speaker 1

I don't think there were many types of stickers in the stationery store

I don't think there were many types of stickers in the stationery store

Speaker 2

I've never seen the culture of stickers

Speaker 1

I don't know why I exchanged stickers

Speaker 2

There are many stickers like this

I don't want this one

I want a sticker I've never seen

Speaker 1

Do you just look at the sticker?

Speaker 2

I look at it and use it

Speaker 1

When do you use it?

When I write a letter

Do you have a lot of stickers that you don't use?

Basically, I have stickers that I can use and that I can't use

Speaker 2

There are stickers that I keep buying

Speaker 1

How long did you keep them?

Speaker 2

I still have them at home

Speaker 1

If you look at them

Speaker 2

I might have brought them

Speaker 1

No way!

Speaker 2

I might have brought them

I'll look for them until next week

Speaker 1

You mean you have stickers from that time

Speaker 2

Yes, I have stickers from that time

For example, if it's a strange sticker

If it's swollen

If it's shiny

If it's a sticker with hair

If it's a sticker I like

If I touch it many times

My hair turns brown

Speaker 1

There's a background on the sticker itself

I change the stickers there

Speaker 2

I try to arrange them

I also play with the stickers

Speaker 1

I see

Did you do that when you were in elementary school?

Speaker 2

Yes, I did

Speaker 1

Don't you touch them when you're in middle school?

Speaker 2

Yes, I do

I make a notebook

I make a notebook that I can't take off

Of course, I put stickers on it

I played with stickers until I was in elementary school

Speaker 1

Do you know that adult stickers are popular these days?

Speaker 2

No, I don't know

Speaker 1

I think people who played with stickers when they were young like you

大人のシール収集のトレンド

Speaker 1

They became adults and started to make stickers to decorate their notebooks

I heard it's already popular

There's a binder for that

Speaker 2

Is that also a sticker you can put on and take off?

Speaker 1

Yes, it is

I recently learned about stickers

I bought three

One is a normal one

Three stickers?

Yes

Did you buy a lot?

I bought a lot of stationery

I bought a lot of stationery for my notebook

I bought three

Did you know that there is a famous stationery brand called Midori?

Speaker 2

Yes, I know

Speaker 1

When I go to a stationery store, I know how strong Midori is

They have a lot of popular products

Speaker 2

Midori was the first company to release Traveler's Note

Speaker 1

Oh, really?

Traveler's Note is independent and has a different brand

But the main brand is Midori

This is a double-sided paper

You can put stickers on both sides

Is that a background?

No, I'm putting stickers on the paper

Speaker 2

You bought the paper and put stickers on it?

Speaker 1

Yes

I put stickers on the paper

Speaker 2

I see

Speaker 1

The sticker you put on the paper is called a flake sticker

You have to peel it off one by one to get rid of the trash

Speaker 2

I see

Speaker 1

You have to peel it off and get rid of the trash

It's easy to see

It's easy to choose

Traveler's Note also has a flake sticker

I see

I haven't used this one yet

It's a traveler's note size flake sticker

The other one is very popular now

It's hard to get

It's a product called Vine

It's like a sticker book for adults

You can exchange stickers

It's a binder

There is a sticker book

This sticker book is so popular that I can't get it

Speaker 2

Why is it so popular?

Speaker 1

Because it's cute

It's a clear cover sticker

It's good for people who used to love sticker books

Speaker 2

It's nostalgic

Speaker 1

I think so

It's practical to have a slim cover sticker

Speaker 2

I think it's the one that makes your heart dance

Speaker 1

I bought this one with the cover

It's supposed to be a decal

You can customize it

There is a hole to put a strap

There is a hole to put a strap

This is how I found out about the sticker book

What's so special about being an adult?

Speaker 3

The design

Speaker 1

The overall design?

The overall design

This metal part is a binder

The color of this metal part is very chic and antique

It's brown

It's copper

Each one has a different feel

Speaker 3

What do you mean by each one?

Speaker 1

It's the same color, but the paint is different

Speaker 3

The metal part?

Speaker 1

Yes, the metal part

You can choose the finish you like

It's like that

Speaker 3

Is it expensive?

Speaker 1

I don't think it's expensive

The material is not cheap

The clear cover doesn't change the color of the sticker

It's likely to change the color

If you keep using the same one

The ease of opening and closing the metal part

The ease of using the metal part

The quality is good

Speaker 3

Can children use it?

Speaker 1

It's good, but it's a luxury

Where is it from?

It's from Mindwave

Mindwave is a strong company

They have a lot of simple, fashionable, adult women's goods

I think there are a lot of adult women's goods

Speaker 3

What is the sticker for adults?

Speaker 1

The sticker is an illustration I used in Traveler's Note

It's like an adult fashion magazine

It has a lot of illustrations

Speaker 3

It's like a child's sticker

Speaker 1

There are a lot of those

I only had that image

There are a lot of small stickers

There are also a lot of simple stickers

Speaker 2

There are also stickers for schedules

Speaker 1

There are also stickers for schedules

It's like an illustration for adults

Speaker 2

There are a lot of different kinds

Speaker 1

I have a cat sticker

It's like this

Speaker 3

It's a cat sticker

There are a lot of different patterns

Speaker 1

That's right

You buy these stickers to use them

It's just a way to use them

You don't look at people

It's just a sticker to enjoy

I don't understand the meaning of exchanging stickers

Even now?

You understand it when you are a kid?

I don't think I understood it when I was a kid

Speaker 3

It's like the sticker you mentioned

Speaker 2

It's like a collection

Speaker 1

I think that's what makes it difficult for me

Speaker 3

It's like a hobby to collect

Speaker 1

I don't understand that I just collect and look at

Speaker 2

Did you make a fricature?

Speaker 1

I made a fricature

There are people in it

Speaker 2

There are people in it

Speaker 1

It's like a memory with a friend

Speaker 2

Did you collect cute band-aids?

Speaker 1

I didn't collect them at all

想い出の文房具

Speaker 2

What about tissues that smell good?

Speaker 1

I don't have tissues

Speaker 2

What about small erasers?

Speaker 1

I don't use them

I didn't collect them

Speaker 2

I see

Speaker 1

I didn't have anything like that

Speaker 2

I'm sure elementary school students have gone through the first-generation stationery boom

Do you feel like you're exploding now without going through it?

Speaker 1

I used to collect pens when I was a kid

Speaker 2

You liked pens

Speaker 1

I used to collect all kinds of colors

You liked pens

I had a habit of writing notes

I used it a lot in class

Speaker 2

You liked to write notes in class

Speaker 1

It was very colorful

Speaker 2

You wrote letters

Speaker 1

I understand the meaning of using it

I also buy all kinds of notes

I use them all

I understand the meaning

Speaker 2

What about stickers?

Speaker 1

I think I'll use them someday

Do you mean the stickers you put on it?

Speaker 2

I think I'll use them someday

I think I'll use them someday

Speaker 1

You still have a lot of special moments, right?

Yes

I graduated

I heard that stationery YouTubers are making stickers and exchanging stickers

Speaker 2

Do you mean that adults are doing it now?

Yes

In the neighborhood

I think I understand that

I want to see rare stickers

I see

Speaker 1

You just want it, don't you?

Speaker 2

I just want it

Speaker 1

You just want it, don't you?

I understand it little by little

For example, I bought a lot of notes

I don't buy it because I want it

I buy it because I want it

大人のステッカー文化

Speaker 1

It's like thinking about whether to use it or not

I'm enjoying it now

I think I'll be a sticker if I get used to it

I think it's rare to live a life without knowing the sticker culture until I'm almost 44

I think it's rare

I didn't know that

When I was young, I often heard that everyone wanted to exchange stickers

I knew that there was a culture of exchanging stickers

I thought it was a recent story

I thought it was because it was easy to get stickers at 100-yen stores

Speaker 2

100-yen stickers are cute

Speaker 1

I used to think of stickers as luxury goods

That's right

Speaker 2

It's not like that now

It's like choosing a machine to buy

I think I took it more seriously

Speaker 1

That's right

I didn't take it seriously

Maybe I didn't want it that much

I see

I found out this time that you were losing weight

I lost weight

I loved it

By the way, how do you feel about stickers?

Speaker 2

I love it

It's not the way I used to be when I was in elementary school

It's a waste of time

Speaker 1

I see

I just put it on

Speaker 2

But I love stickers

I was told that I wanted to go buy stickers at 4 p.m. yesterday

Speaker 3

That's not true

Speaker 1

It's 4 p.m.

Speaker 2

I had to go to Daiso in the evening

The stickers I bought at Daiso are here

Speaker 1

It's used a lot

That's right

Speaker 2

It's transparent

Speaker 1

It's cute

Speaker 2

It's transparent

It's popular

Speaker 3

What did you put it on?

Speaker 1

What did you put it on?

I put it on a origami

I gave it to my dad

That's cute

I'm glad

I see

Your dad doesn't know

Speaker 2

Your dad was in trouble

Speaker 1

This is a sticker

I don't know what it means

When you put stickers on a wall or furniture, you can't put it anywhere

I didn't have that

Maybe he was angry

Speaker 2

So I didn't put a lot of stickers where I could see

Speaker 1

I didn't put a lot of stickers

Speaker 2

You put a lot of stickers when you were a kid

I put a lot of stickers on my elementary school book

I don't put it anywhere

You put stickers where you could see when you were a kid

Speaker 1

I didn't have that

Speaker 2

I didn't have that

Speaker 1

I didn't have that

I had a lot of thoughts about stickers

It's hard to use

It's a waste and it's hard to use

It's the same with stickers

It's a waste, so if you leave it as it is, it doesn't mean anything

I've put all my money into it since I became an adult

It's scary

I put a lot of stickers where I could see

I've been using my notebook a lot

Speaker 2

What happened?

Speaker 1

It's been a month since I've been using my notebook

I suddenly became a person who uses a lot of stationary

It's easy to get addicted to it

Speaker 2

I used to make videos

Speaker 1

I've been using a lot of stationary

Speaker 2

Before that, I made a house

Speaker 1

That's a big leap

Speaker 2

What happened before that?

Speaker 1

I don't think I had one

Speaker 2

But you're an old man

Speaker 1

That's another story

I'm going to visit C-san in December and go to Fukui

Let's make a sticker book

What?

What are you going to do?

Let's exchange stickers

If you want to

シールと旅行ノートの思い出

Speaker 2

I'm going to look for some

It's nostalgic

Speaker 1

I'm going to give some to Tama-chan

Speaker 3

I'm going to put it on

Speaker 2

I'm going to use it right away

Speaker 1

I'm going to use the one I can

Speaker 2

I'm going to look for a sticker that looks like Fukui

Speaker 1

I'm going to put it on my Traveler's Note

That's true

That's it for this episode

Here's a behind-the-scenes story

While I was talking this time

I said several times

It's a mistake in the masking tape

Is that so?

It's natural to write in the tape

It's masking tape

Speaker 3

Can't you write with masking tape?

Speaker 1

It's a little thick

If it's a water-based ink, there's something called Hajiku

It's a masking tape that you can write with a water-based pen

If it's a oil-based pen, you can write with a normal masking tape

It's a water-based one

It's a Japanese-like masking tape

After that, I thought it was time to go to Fukui to visit C-san

I'm going to make a binder called Vine

I'm going to make it as a travel notebook

Speaker 3

Not a sticker?

Speaker 1

It's a sticker

Binders are basically made of paper

You can use it as a memo

You can write your trip plans there

If there is a stamp somewhere, you can press it

I'm making it

If you want to exchange stickers with C-san and Tama-chan

I'm preparing a sticker for that time

I don't think there is an exchange yet

I don't think so

Can you take a look at it?

I transplanted Roll Barn into a binder called Vine

It's a custom that's popular now

Speaker 3

You're putting the contents in

Speaker 1

That's right

The shape of the ring is different, but it miraculously fits in the hole

It's a little rough

The size is different

I'm putting in a Roll Barn M-size diary

It's the beginning of October

I'm thinking about writing down my plans with something I can use

I bought a sticker because it was popular

This is called Bon Bon Drop

Isn't it very three-dimensional?

It's a cute sticker

I bought this

It's like a stand glass

It's like an adult sticker

It may not be an adult, but it's like a luxury sticker

I made a stamp like a travel note

That's what I'm going to do

Speaker 3

Do you have a good one?

Speaker 1

It's a good one

It's an expensive sticker

It's not max, but it's expensive

I bought a little more

I don't have time to do this kind of work

There are a lot of unopened ones

I haven't been to the 100-yen sticker corner yet

I wasn't very interested until now

I'd like to collect them while looking at the 100-yen store

It was like that

Next time, I'll talk about the letter from the letter form

I'm still collecting letters

The message in the letter is always welcome

Please see the summary column for details

Have a good time this week

Thank you for listening to the end