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せーの What's up amazing people, this is YASASA
RADIO by Akane and Minami. In this radio, we are going to talk about random topics in
Okinawan Japanese and English. はいたーいーはいたーいー
数よ中華なびら、イヤササレディオのアカネとミナミやいびん。このレディオで、イエーゴとウチナーグチさぁに、
数四回、いっぺーうむさるはなし、つづけやんでちうむとおいびん。
The National Police Agency announced the results of the nationwide survey about police checkup
based on race, nationality on December 1st. During 2021, it is said that there were six
inappropriate and careless police checkup in Japan. It is called racial profiling, which
police may target individuals for investigation or determine whether they have been involved
in a crime based on their specific attributes such as race, color, ethnicity, nationality,
language, or religion. Regarding all six cases, the agency responded to an interview with
HuffPost Japan that they didn't have discriminatory intentions based on prejudice against race
or nationality. As a police, we have not determined that there was racial profiling,
he said. An expert on the issue of racist police checkup points out even if there is no intention
to discriminate, it constitutes racism if a disadvantageous effect occurs. The survey
covers consultations on police checkup sent to prefectural public safety commissions nationwide
in 2021. Among these, prefectural police extracted consultations on police checkup based on
characteristics such as race, nationality, appearance such as hairstyle and clothing,
and the national police agency carefully examined each case. In particular, he explained the reason
for the police checkup because a fashionable person with dreadlocks had drug possession.
I explained to the Fijian citizen that it was rare for a foreigner to drive a car, explaining the
reason for the checkup. At the inspection of the vehicle, I asked, are you Huff? The national police
agency said that none of the six incidents in which there was a problem had any discriminatory
intentions, and that is had not determined that there was racial profiling. In response to this
lawyer, Miyashita said, racism is defined as having a disadvantageous effect based on specific
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attributes such as race, skin, skin color, or country of origin. Even if there is no intention to
discriminate, a disadvantageous effect will occur. It would be racist, he said. What can be done to
eliminate discriminatory police checkup targeting people with roots abroad? Attorney Miyashita said,
the biggest problem is that there are no statistics to verify whether it was an illegal
police checkup or whether foreigners were regarded as prospective criminals and were not engaged in
racially policed questions. There is nothing. We need to take measures as police organizations, such
as recording the attributes of the target and the reasons for the police checkup, conducting
interviews with the concerned parties by the government, and strengthening
strengthening training within the police rather than ending with a one-time survey.
Based on the fact that the police agency is a specific attribute such as race, skin color,
nationality, language, and religion, it is called racial profiling to judge whether or not you are involved in
crime or whether you are involved in crime. The police department did not have any discriminatory
intentions based on the definition of race or nationality, he said in a half-post Japanese interview.
He pointed out that he did not judge that there was racial profiling as a police officer.
Experts who are familiar with the issue of racial discrimination questions point out that even if there is no intention to discriminate,
if a disadvantageous effect occurs, it will be racial discrimination.
The survey is aimed at questions about job questions submitted to local governments, public security committees, etc.
Among them, the local government submitted a job question about race, nationality, hairstyle, and clothing,
and the police investigated each case.
Specifically, he explained the reason for the job question,
and explained the reason for the job question,
and explained the reason for the job question,
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and asked if it was half when the vehicle was inspected.
The police department explained that the six cases that had a problem did not have any discriminatory intentions,
and did not judge that there was racial profiling.
On the other hand, Mr. Miyashita pointed out that racial discrimination is based on certain characteristics such as race, skin color, and nationality.
Even if there is no intention to discriminate, if a disadvantageous effect occurs, it will be racial discrimination.
What should we do to eliminate racial job questions targeting people with roots abroad?
Was the biggest problem with Mr. Miyashita's job question illegal?
There is no statistics to verify that foreigners are not being treated as a criminal group and are not being treated as racially biased.
It is necessary to record the characteristics and reasons for the job question,
and to take measures such as hearing for the parties involved by the country, and to strengthen the training of the police within the police.
It's hard to say job question.
Job question.
What are the requirements of the job question?
It is stated in Article 2 of the Police Office Job Question Act.
You're explaining the definition of job question?
Yeah.
Okay, let's learn about that.
Who don't know about the job question?
Yeah.
異常な挙動をその他周囲事情から合理的に判断して何らかの罪を犯し、もしくは犯そうとしていると疑うに足りる相当な理由があるもの。
もしくは犯罪が行われようとしていることについて知っていると認められるもの。
条文によると、例えば辺りをうろうろしている、やたらと周囲を気にしているといった異常な挙動をとっている人をはじめとして、
その時その場所では不自然だと判断できる人が職務質問の対象です。
身体的特徴や服装などの見た目は要件としては明記されていません。
職務質問の要件は、簡単に言えば、警察官の目から見て不自然だ、怪しいと感じられるかどうかに集約されます。
So, if I were a police, I can't stop people by their appearance, right?
Yeah, in this.
So, that's the problem now?
Yeah.
But, I don't know when they started the investigation, but there are like six cases.
So, there was an application?
Yeah.
Have you had shokushitsu before?
No.
But like a lot of my guy friends had shokushitsu for more than once.
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I didn't know that they experienced it.
How do they look like, their appearance?
It depends.
Some of them are half.
Some of them are full inner.
Dreadlocks like...
Dreadlocks are not so common in the south, but there are also normal people.
Sorry, if I say normal, it sounds like I'm discriminating against the south.
How do I say this?
They don't have very distinctive hairstyles or flashy clothes.
On the contrary, they look like a salaryman.
So, how come they got like a police checkup by their normal appearance?
They are acting like that?
Yeah, they are.
Like they said, if they were normal, they would be able to talk to us normally.
In other words, they are not doing anything.
I think they have some kind of atmosphere.
Sensitivity?
Yeah, I don't know.
Don't you feel like you don't know?
In Okinawa, there are a lot of people with dreadlocks or beards.
Yeah.
They don't look like they cut their hair.
I haven't asked everybody.
Every guys.
But...
Okinawa guys...
I feel like I'm going to get rejected no matter where I go.
There are a lot of dark people.
There are a lot of people who look half-naked.
Tattoos...
It's not just one point.
There are a lot of sleeve tattoos in Okinawa.
Yeah, there are a lot of places where you can see the neck.
And it's normal.
Yeah.
But I've heard that like...
My friends told me that
as soon as they got off Shibuya station,
and then police come to them,
and ask.
Shokushitsu.
Like they were waiting for them?
Not waiting, but like...
As soon as they saw them,
they just came to them.
I hear that a lot.
Yeah.
But...
One of them has long hair.
And the other one has a short hair and a lot of tattoos.
It's a good combination for police.
Yeah, I think so.
Stop them.
But they've never...
Not never, but they don't have shokushitsu in Okinawa a lot.
Maybe like...
In Tokyo, people are walking,
so it's more obvious.
Maybe.
But it still depends on how they look.
So...
Normally, it's not allowed.
I mean...
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They can't do that.
Practically.
Technically.
But...
Even if they have shokushitsu,
if they don't have any evidence,
they don't make a claim for the police
for some illegal action.
Yeah.
It's just a waste of time for them.
Yeah, it's a hassle.
If they do it over and over again,
they'll get used to it.
It's weird.
It's like the police are weird.
Yeah.
Like...
We have a right to wear whatever we want.
If we, you know...
don't expose our...
our dick.
Yeah.
It's not a crime.
Like...
We can wear whatever we want.
But...
The roots of it...
make us think about it.
Like...
What do you like about reggae?
Yeah.
What's the purpose of doing...
shokumeshitsumo?
For police?
They are hima.
They are bullies.
They are hima.
They are bullies.
Is that a norm?
Like...
Shokushitsunanken yarimashita.
Yeah.
But if it's not like that,
don't they do it over and over again?
They don't.
Like...
When I'm...
If I'm a police,
I don't want to do that because
I don't want to make people feel...
you know...
bad.
But you're a police.
But...
I'm wondering...
If it's like a goal or...
If there's a norm,
I'd probably do that.
Maybe there's a norm for being humble.
Yeah.
If you're humble,
like in foreign dramas,
you're like,
you got caught again.
So like...
If it's not like a norm,
you can judge people
by their appearance.
Yeah.
You can ask them a few questions.
Yeah.
But technically,
the definition of shokushitsu
Yeah.
I don't think it's all bad.
Yeah.
I saw in this article
that the guy
had
more than 30 times of
shokushitsu
since he was in a junior high.
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
He probably looked
older than the actual age.
Yeah.
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He has a Nigerian father
and a Japanese mother.
And...
Um...
Even though there are
a lot of people with shokushitsu,
I feel like I'm getting
racial profiling
from the experience
of being questioned
many times by myself.
That's true.
Poor me.
And I was told
to show my foreign registration.
I only have my insurance,
so if I'm Japanese,
my attitude can change.
Yeah.
Shokushitsu pattern
according to my friends,
there's like a foreigner
move to Japan
who got shokushitsu a lot.
Also,
my Japanese friend
have or
they have
like a particular looks.
It's a bit unique.
But...
For foreigners,
there might be
some people
who have a high
crime rate in Japan,
so I feel like
there's a bias
that can't be
equalized.
But in Okinawa,
there are a lot of people
who are half-Japanese.
Even in the south,
in the mainland,
people sometimes ask you
if you're half-Japanese.
If you look half-Japanese,
do you look
serious?
Half-Japanese people
are also dangerous.
They might have medicine.
Another article said
people from South America
and Africa
have a higher rate of getting shokushitsu.
That's right.
Also, the other problem is
it's not just
foreigner.
It's African-American
or African looks.
Like black people.
The color is specific.
I know some people
who have white friends,
but they don't ask much.
I don't know.
So in the end,
it's difficult.
I think it depends on
the case they want to
pursue.
At that time.
Right.
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Right.
But,
the racism
against shokushitsu
is the same.
The other day,
an Okinawan high school student
did a protest
for the police office.
Because one of them,
one of the police
did an assault
to one student
and he got blinded.
Blinded.
Now.
And after that,
there was like
many tweets
on Twitter that
Okinawan is like
crazy people.
Yeah.
Hate speech.
Huh?
Okinawan people
are very flexible.
In that respect,
because it's the police,
it's not a recognition
that everything is right.
Haters.
In one aspect, yeah.
To see this issue.
I thought Minami was a friend
of a wild person,
but when I heard this news,
I thought she was fine.
Even students,
when they think they are right,
the police are
the most authoritative.
Not even in school.
Yeah.
I thought she had
so much energy
to go on a rampage.
It's weird to say she's fine,
but I thought
she was a young person.
Yeah.
So I was like,
why is she reacting so negatively?
Yeah.
I haven't seen
the tweeters yet,
so I don't know what the
haters said.
Yeah.
Smart Yankee.
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Okinawan Yankee?
Yeah.
Like, why?
You don't know?
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You guys are so nice.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We are not a loser.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Haters.
That's so scary.
It's anonymous.
Nobody knows.
Like, you tweeted.
If you don't put your name.
Whatever.
Yeah.
I saw some, you know,
the exhibition for Okinawan
hate speech.
On social.
That's how much we are
popular.
Like, we want to know who we are.
We want to feel that
we are Okinawans,
not Japanese.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
They are kind of proud
of being shokushitsu.
That's how much we are popular.
She knew positive.
Yeah.
But it makes feel them like
they are doing something bad
all the time.
If, you know, they don't do anything.
Yeah.
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I think it's like
Japan is like a whole island
nation.
I got an idea.
Yeah, like a penalty.
Yeah.
Like, wrong guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, like,
if you don't have any evidence,
don't waste my time.
Yeah.
If it's 3 or 4 times,
I think it's fine.
But police is police.
This person is not doing anything.
Make a profiling.
Yeah, it's random.
They don't record.
They record?
Name?
I don't know.
I don't think it's good.
Yeah.
Also,
recently,
there are a lot of
small cameras and
recorders.
I think people
who are being shokushitsu
have one for their protection.
Yeah.
I don't like that reality.
It's scary.
It's all being recorded.
I mean, one of my job is
card funding, right?
Yeah.
Since last year,
like a tiny
camera
that you can put like a name card
or sunglasses
or
like a watch.
Like Conan.
There are a lot of cameras now.
And they sell well.
For what?
In a public
ad, we only
can say for your house protection
or to see
kids, to see your pet
or like for
security to
prevent harassment
at office.
Omotemuki.
No.
You can't use it up to here.
So people really don't know
what they use
for, right?
Yeah. There is
like any kind
of product form with
a tiny camera now.
Like,
Ichiban ooi no wa.
But it's good for harassment.
If we only talk about
sexual harassment at office,
yes, but
there is like a normal
pencil
has a camera on it.
Toka
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like a smart watch
with a camera.
Toka rokuon.
Dekiru no mecha ooi kara
gyakuni hanzai fuen tomo.
Fuen?
Fueru tomo.
Tosatsu toka yoyuu damo.
Tashikani.
Dakara
on the other hand, there is a lot of
product to
to find
to find
kakushi kamera.
GPS.
Tochoki.
Docchi no shouhin mo ureteru wake.
Dakara nani kono
sekaikan to motten.
Kimoi ne, nanka.
Jibun no mi wa jibun de mamore
teki na kanji janai.
It depends on where you live
to omou kedo.
Yeah, so if you travel a lot
for work, it can be
good to have some
self-protection goods.
Yasui hotel toka wa
igai ni aru rashii.
Sou nano?
Nigenai you ni?
Hentai no tosatsu
ka
shiran yo, shiran kedo.
Ga oiteru toka.
Toka, nan demo arierun jan.
Hentai tte ippai iru sa.
Kowai.
Sou dattara sa,
mite mo ii yo tte kimochi ga.
Koukyou no toire toka, shiran kedo.
Koukyou no toire ni chotto
satsuei dekiru sa,
dokei demo nan demo ii kedo,
wasuremono mitai ni oitera sa,
toreru wake jan, hito ga toire shiteru toka.
Love ho toka ni sa,
oitera sa,
hamedori satsuei dekiru wake jan.
Moshikashitara warui dansei ga
yatteru toki ni
yatteru toki ni toru toka sa.
Ikura demo
dekiru yo, sonna no.
Jan.
Sore wo sa, business
toka ni sare zara iya da kedo.
Nan daro ne.
Just taking a video,
I'm okay with that.
I mean, I'm not okay, but
mite dou suru no?
tte kanji.
Demo dou suru?
If your video published
by one hub toka.
By my name?
Random.
Dattara ii ka.
Yoku wa nai kedo,
specific ni,
dare nara nani nani toka tte
iware nain dattara.
Maa ne.
Kore,
hontou ni,
it's important to protect yourself
by any crimes,
but at the same time,
it's also important,
you don't care
if it's going on live.
Because there is no
perfect protection.
Minami nanka yuumeijin
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demo nai kara sa.
Betsu ni,
mohaya sonna no ga dete mo
kizukanain daro kedo.
Sore ga seikatsu ni nani ka oyobosu
toka dattara ne.
Maa ne.
But I just wanna tell you guys
that
this kind of
product is
selling good
now.
So weird.
Haa, konna ni katteru hito iru nda toka sa.
Un, un, un.
Kara,
kaisha zutome no hito wa
ano,
kiwotsuketa hou ii ne.
Doko demo maji de ima
rokuon sarete iru kanouji aru kara.
Stop saying stupid things.
Yeah.
Demo sa,
speaking of
discrimination,
anything
can be discrimination
if you don't have
intention toward
that person.
But if they think it's
they are discriminated,
right?
It's same as like harassment.
Yeah.
You know, school and office too.
If you don't have any
intention for them
to hurt them,
but if they take
as an
attack,
then it's harassment.
Dakara minna sore no
handan ga dekinakute,
aa, mendokusai!
tte natte,
dandan communication sura toranakunaru
no ka na, tte omou.
Kiken wo okasu gurai datta kakawaranai.
Un, un, un.
What if I have a camera
and I'm taking video
chokushitsu, and then
they do something,
you know, not harassment
but discrimination thing.
Then you can sue them.
Oh, that's good.
Dakara,
Black Lives Matter
datte sore de hajimatten jan.
Sumaho de genba totteta kara,
minna ga miru koto ni natta kedo,
toji-sha no hitotachi kara
konna no nanjuu nen mae kara
arimashita, mitai na.
Dakara, for good's sake.
Dakara,
joukyou ni yotte wa,
ii tool de wa aru yo ne,
kono shakaiteki
jakusha to sareru
hitotachi ga,
jibun no mi wo mamoru tame ni
rokuon shitari,
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douga tottari suru tte iu no wa,
ii tsukai kata wo suru to sore de yo ne.
Sanjyukkai chokushitsu
zenbu taking video shitoke wa yokatta ne.
Demo kono hito
toriagerareta tte koto wa nani kashira
attan janai no?
Jibun de
jibun no mi wo mamoru jidai ni
narimashita.
It's scary.
Itsudatte
sou datto omonda kedo.
Now it's like so many technologies
that can't be grabbed.
That's why we have
to have like
you know
so many ways to protect
ourselves too.
Kowa.
Mou sa, Google Earth
Google Earth wakare?
Google Earth ga
nijuujikan kanshi
dekiru youna joutai ni narun jan.
Ima mo shiteru soudakedo ne.
Honto wa.
Nanka are motto sa
amerika no
seifu ga
kono
kokumin no facebook
toka wo zenbu nozoketeta
mitai na, you know
Snorden
taiho sarete
roshiya ni bomen shita hito.
Kowai.
Hontono
He
saw all the messages
and everything without being
friends.
There is a guy named
Snorden. He used to work
at probably CIA
or FBI or some
like a
Gokuhiman.
So he had
access to
check up like
all the country and government
have
the access to
you know local citizens
social medias.
Message toka zenbu yo.
Mireru tte iu potential
ga aru no wo shitte shimatte
konna
koto wo shitta dame daro
mitai na.
Manaka ni iru hito wa sonna no ien sa.
Shitteru kedo iwanakatta hito ga
hotondo nan janai.
Naibu kokuhatsu mitai na koto wo shitchatta
wake wo yuuki wo motte.
Soshitara kekyoku kuni ni owarete
amerika
kokuri
nationality
hakudatsu sareta no ka
sore ka
amerika ni modotta taifu sareru kara
ima roshiya ni
ima mo roshiya kana.
interview toka mo roshiya kara kotaeru.
There is a movie about him.
It's fun.
He's famous.
Very famous.
Amerika de wa tokuni yuumei kamo.
Amerika tte
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nanka sou iu no wo ooi yo.
Demo hontoni konna sekaisen ga
sekaisen ga aru nda tte omotta kowaku naru yo.
Edward Snowden.
Ah, sou sou sou. Edward ka.
Nanka sa, message toka mo sa
kieru message no
apri toka mo aru mo ne.
Roshiya na yatsu na?
Roshiya ka wakaranai kedo. Futsuuni iPhone.
There is one on Instagram too, right?
Ah, sou nanda.
Hyouji sarenai message no chatto aru.
Ah, nanka aru ne.
I don't trust them.
If you
don't wanna
Sou sou sou.
Are tte mierun janai? Vanish mode da.
Sou sou.
Instagram no chatto no tokoro
ue byun tte yattara.
Demo sore sa, jibun no sa
keitai de
hiraitara
mata turn off tte dekiru ja.
Dare no tame ni vanish mode ni sun no?
Futari no
shabetta are wo nakusu tame janai no?
Mireru romu ka shinai tte?
Mireru yo.
Kore yatte
mireru ja.
Sore wa regular text desho?
Dakara, kyou Akane to Minami ga
himitsu no text uchiowatte
ashita ni nattara mou mirenaku
nattetara iin janai.
Ah, sou nanda.
If you don't wanna be record on
like social media,
you should call
on the phone.
But what about phone?
I think iPhone
or Android phone has
mic chan.
Watarima mic tsuiten da kedo.
Ano...
Minami, nan nin ka ima made atta koto aru kedo sa.
Kyou wa nanka
tatoeba
zara no one piece hoshii ne,
kuroi yatsu hoshii ne, toka sa.
Oshabei shitara sa,
kuroi yatsu hoshii ne, toka sa.
Sore kiita koto aru?
Minami, demo hitori janai wake kore.
Kekko ironna hito ga
ano ato onaji yatsu no koukoku deta.
Ikkai mo shirabeta koto nainoni
mitai na.
Sore tte Siri ga ugoiten no?
Minami kara shitara
hontou wa ikkai shirabeta yan
tte omou kedo, hontou ni
specific ni detekitari suru wake.
Google de shirabeta toka janakute?
Shirabete nakutemo
Insta ga
suspicious?
I can't even trust my phone.
Usually, people don't remember
what they research.
Jan.
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Dakara,
kini shite mo shouganai ka na tte omou kedo,
technically, they can do that.
Demo sa, there is no way
not having phone.
We are watched by somebody.
All the information.
Yeah.
Like you have Google account, right?
Google has
eh?
Nanoku ni mo no
kojinjouhou motteru wake jan.
iPhone toka de sa
We talked about it.
Online shopping shite tara sa
credit card jouhou toka sa
ireru no mentokusaku natte sa
hozon shichau wake jan.
Sono jite torareteru wake jan.
That's scary shit.
Yeah.
Idealistically, you should
make each password
really complex one
for each platform.
For each website.
Demo, oosugi darou.
We talked about the media
literacy.
Yeah, it's kind of same.
Episode 15, check it out.
We need to be wise
to protect our own info.
Sou iu Minami wa
password wo kaenasugite
yabai gurai henna mail ga
kuru toki ga arimasu.
Sonna tte kangaetara sa
keitai toka anmari tsukawanai sa
oya toka ga ichiban anzen.
Daru yo.
Majide
toshiori ga ichiban anzen dana
sou iu imi de wa.
Daikara sa
our Instagram, Facebook is like open.
Kagi.
It's not locked.
And it's actual name.
Tte kangaetara sa
Minami nanka so brave.
Stupidly
brave janai.
Daikara kono joutai de
nanika ni makikomaretara yabai tomo.
Ichibanjin dakara
nani ni mo sarasarenai dake de sa.
Daikara itsudemo
ii koto wo shimasu.
Sou desu ne.
De
moku toka
jibun no kitanai tokoro wa
shinyou dekiru hito to chokusetsu
hanashite owarimashite.
Kakikomi wa shinai desho.
Shite wa ikemasen.
Sou desu.
And one thing I
thought about
reading this article
like
it just
raised
our bias
toward police
for example.
We don't have many police
friends.
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Like
we should have
any kind of occupation
friends.
Be friends.
With anybody.
And
any types of job
to see
their perspective.
Collect all the information.
Open minded.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's all.
That's all for today.
Hai.
Be careful guys.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
