2021-05-05 49:05

#3 【自己紹介 みなみ~前編】Introduction about Minami

3回目はMinami編です。東京&沖縄を行き来するワークスタイルや、フリーランスになった経緯などキャリアメインのお話をしてます。

In this episode, we talked about Minami's career, how to be a freelancer and to be able to work in a nomad style, etc.

#bilingual #Career #workingstyle #English #Japanese #Okinawan #nomad #workfromhome #リモートワーク

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What's up guys! This is iYASASA RADIO by Akane and Minami.
In this radio, we are going to talk about random topics in Okinawan Japanese and English.
こんにちは! こんにちは! こんにちは! イヤササレディオです。 ここでは、ウチナーイントネーションと英語で、2人のインテリエスティングなトピックを紹介します。
Yay! yay!
何回目?3回目? うん、third time. We record the radio today.
So this is gonna be my time, right?
はい。この前は私の話したので、今日はめなみーのことを紹介したいと思います。
Yes!
So...
Like, what we talked last time was your story and how you learn English.
Uh-huh.
Maybe I go through the same topics.
Yeah.
Because I think I have a different stories.
Okay.
じゃあ...
Okay, I'm going to introduce myself briefly.
Okay, then I will ask you a question.
Okay.
Okay, so my name is Minami.
Uh-huh.
And I was born and raised in Okinawa.
Yes.
もっと言うなら、よなばる町。
南部の人たちが聞いてほしい。
よなばる市。
よなばる市。
And...
From high school, I went to...
I graduated University of the Ryukyus.
Uh-huh.
Same college as mine.
Yes.
And after that, I moved to Tokyo.
And it's been six years for now.
And I'm still living in Tokyo.
And sometimes go back to Okinawa once in a month.
Meeting up friends.
Bring up the different business ideas and etc. etc.
That's about it.
Okay.
So...
I'm so happy that I can see you once a month right now.
Since I moved to Okinawa from Tokyo.
We used to hang out a lot.
So...
I think it's really good life you have right now.
That's how I feel.
How so?
Well...
It's good in Tokyo, and it's good in Okinawa.
You go and come back.
You enjoy it.
That's true.
The reason why I can go to Okinawa this much...
Uh-huh.
Is...
I do...
How can I say?
Like a laptop working style.
Nomad?
Nomad style.
The word nomad makes me sick.
So I do digital marketing.
Basically, so...
03:00
What I need is Wi-Fi and laptop and good connection.
And I don't need anything more.
It's like a modern working style now.
Yes, I think so.
Since coronavirus started.
And I became like this not intentionally.
I actually had strong goals that...
I want to have a job which makes me...
How can I say?
Makes me move wherever I want.
Uh-huh.
And do whatever I want.
And I think...
I mean like 50% succeeded at this moment.
But I'm trying to go back Okinawa more.
Uh-huh.
And since I'm still working for some companies.
So...
I'm trying to find a balance.
Uh-huh.
We discuss a lot about new business ideas.
Yes.
By our own.
I think we really like moving forward.
From Okinawa to somewhere.
Or somewhere...
From Tokyo to somewhere else.
Right?
Yes.
Travel around is really fun.
Uh-huh.
Being in Tokyo always feels like...
Studying in Tokyo.
Uh-huh.
At the very beginning of I came here.
I always think this is a long-term study abroad.
Because of the culture.
The language is the same.
But a bit different.
Like how we communicate with people here.
People here.
People in mainland.
Or people from mainland.
Is very different.
Like we discussed before.
Uh-huh.
There are so many things to learn.
And the food is...
Completely different.
Yes.
Everything is different.
Everything is different.
Tokyo and Okinawa.
Like...
The more I live here...
It's so different.
Like...
What do you call it?
Annual event.
Uh-huh.
Like Obon.
Uh-huh.
Everything is different.
Uh-huh.
And like...
Uh...
Even the way we use Japanese.
Uh-huh.
It's completely different.
I understand.
Right?
It was the most surprising thing.
When I moved to Tokyo.
When I joined a company.
My boss always like...
You need to change your accent.
To customers.
Akane is...
Akane is...
She has a strong intonation.
Okinawan intonation.
So...
It's normal for me.
It's my language.
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How you talk is very slow.
Uh-huh.
And we're like...
Relaxing Okinawan intonation.
That I think something I don't have.
But...
But it makes me...
Like I feel like I'm idiot.
No, like...
You're so relaxed.
Kanji person.
Kanji...
Kanji person.
Like that.
Vocabulary level is so low.
Like...
So...
So...
How can I say?
But...
It's a new language.
I feel like I'm learning a new language.
Uh-huh.
I don't speak bilingual.
Ok, this person.
Standard language.
This person.
Suddenly...
How can I say?
How we call ourselves.
Minami, Akane.
How we call ourselves.
Minami...
Call my name by myself.
Yes.
Like...
She said...
Because Okinawans...
When they go to the mainland...
They practice with me, right?
Uh-huh.
Watashi is...
Iwakan still.
Like that.
When you come to Tokyo...
The first thing you have to do is...
You have to call yourself...
Watashi...
You have to call yourself Watashi.
When I say Akane...
It makes me feel like...
I'm such an idiot person.
Idiot...
Isn't it Burikko?
In Japanese.
Burikko...
I think so.
I don't mean that.
I always explain the difference.
Ok.
I'm not Burikko, but...
When I speak in Okinawan...
I call myself by my name.
Yeah.
And this is so natural.
It's so average for everyone.
For females.
Yeah.
For boys...
Like me...
I say it, but...
Uh-huh.
That's true.
Only females.
Only females.
For girls...
For some reason...
They call themselves by their name.
When I say,
Watashi wa...
They always laugh.
I'm used to it now, but...
Yeah.
It feels like...
I'm acting.
Yeah.
When I call me...
Watashi...
Like that.
For me...
It's not that...
Watashi wa...
It's like acting.
Yeah.
I'm not in it.
Uh-huh.
Like...
Social...
How do you say it?
Tatemae?
Yeah.
Tatemae level...
Become a main man level.
09:00
Tatemae level.
That's why I...
Did you say that?
But...
I wanna ask you about your job.
Job.
It's really interesting.
For now, I...
Okay, basically, I work as a freelancer.
Uh-huh.
And currently...
I have...
3.5 job.
Let's say.
Because...
A lot.
There is a 0.5.
One of my job...
Taking a break because of the quarantine.
Uh-huh.
And...
The other three jobs...
One is...
I actually work as a full-time.
Uh-huh.
But the other two is...
I do a service contract.
Which means...
Gyoumuitaku.
Uh-huh.
So, as an outsider...
As a human being...
I help other companies.
Uh-huh.
My specialty...
Yeah.
Is digital marketing.
Uh-huh.
Which is like...
Doing...
Social media...
And online advertisement.
Uh-huh.
And...
Running an e-commerce site.
Uh-huh.
Online site.
Easy site.
I don't know which one is easier to understand.
Because everyone uses different words.
Uh-huh.
It's like online shopping.
Uh-huh.
And...
I'm in the marketing and...
How do you say?
Like a back team.
Uh-huh.
I'm in the back team.
Uh-huh.
I do a lot of things.
Wow.
It sounds really difficult for me.
It's like a job in Tokyo style.
Yeah.
I think it's...
It's really easier...
Uh-huh.
To find this kind of job...
Yeah.
In a big city.
Yeah.
I don't see this kind of jobs in Okinawa a lot, so...
Yeah.
I know a few people who work in Okinawa.
Uh-huh.
But...
The number of accounts...
I mean the number of customers.
Uh-huh.
The number of accounts is small.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
And...
Just local business only.
Yeah.
So...
It's not what I expected.
Uh-huh.
The...
One of my main job I...
I do is crowdfunding.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people don't know what crowdfunding is.
Then...
Crowdfunding is...
When you collect money online...
Uh-huh.
For a specific project...
Uh-huh.
Or when you launch a new product.
Crowdfunding is getting trending, isn't it?
Yeah.
I think it's because of COVID-19.
Everyone is staying at home.
Uh-huh.
So you don't have to go outside.
Uh-huh.
The industry is getting bigger and bigger.
Uh-huh.
So I think everyone knows about it.
12:00
But only 10% of people have actually bought something through crowdfunding.
Oh, I see.
And most of them are men.
Uh-huh.
I think so.
There are so few products for women.
Uh-huh.
I don't know how it's going to fit for Japanese people or women.
Uh-huh.
Because when you buy something on a crowdfunding platform,
the product or the service will come to you after a couple months later.
Uh-huh.
You want what you want right away.
Like Amazon.
Like I want something tomorrow.
Uh-huh.
It takes so long.
I already know that.
You forget it.
Uh-huh.
So it's not as easy as Amazon or Rakuten.
Uh-huh.
That's what crowdfunding is.
Okay.
And what I do...
What I do at my company is...
I do...
Let me get my drink.
Go ahead.
I do like social media, advertisement also.
But I do a lot of writing stuff.
Like copywriting.
Uh-huh.
When we open the new product.
Uh-huh.
And...
Our product...
Like 60% or 70% of our product is gadget.
What is gadget?
Gadget is...
In English, it's called gadget, but I don't know if it's used in the same sense.
For example, smartphone accessories.
Uh-huh.
Or headphones.
Or like a car accessories.
Like a drive record.
Uh-huh.
Everyone has one now.
Uh-huh.
And...
Speakers.
And...
Most of our products are gadget-like.
Uh-huh.
Our customer is...
I think 30 to 50s male.
Mostly.
Uh-huh.
It sounds like Ojiisan like those products.
I don't know.
Like I was really struggle for writing a copy for Ojiisan market.
Uh-huh.
Because I...
Ojiisan market?
What I thought it's gonna work or it's gonna be appealing for the customer was wrong for Ojiisan.
Uh-huh.
Like...
I used to work in fashion industry, so I was a little bit confident.
Yeah.
But...
15:00
The very first time, I handed out like my...
Uh...
How can I say?
Copywriting proposal.
Uh-huh.
I handed it to my boss and he said,
Okay, you don't understand Ojiisan things.
Like...
全部ボツみたいな感じで
What the fuck?
What?
みたいな感じで
じゃあ何書けばいいの?みたいになって
めっちゃ簡単に言ったら
ファッションで女性の服とかバッグとかは
こういうシーンにぴったりとか
季節のトレンドに合わせたとか
何て言うの?
情緒的なやつを言っても全然オッケーだったわけ。
具体的じゃない表現の方が好まれるし
In the fashion industry, they love 横文字.
I sometimes don't really know what it means.
超横文字がいいじゃん。
エフォートレース、アスレジャーが何とかとか
Do you really know what that means?
みたいな感じの言葉が雑誌ってバーって並んでるじゃん。
でも、everyone loves it.
Because maybe you are Japanese.
It sounds more fashionable.
わからないやつの方がクールに見える。
みたいな感じの業界から来てるから
いきなりイヤホンの差とか
Writingし始めて
デザインがなんちゃうかとか言うじゃん。
どういうこと?みたいな。
It has to be more simple for men.
It has to be specific.
If it's light, they wanna know what gram.
最軽量、最少とかだったら
何グラム?みたいな。
It's like for the people who like apple products.
違う?
アップルプロダクト好きな人たちはどっちかに分かれてて
ちゃんと詳しい人がほとんどダメ。
Because it's cool.
They don't know about like
Spec details of what really Mac has.
Mac is amazing, but I think most of the people don't understand.
Like the good point of them.
I think most of people think like
何て言うの?ステータス?
To have a Mac.
今めっちゃ面白いと思ったけど
パソコンで
このガジェットリテラシー高い人は
結構Windows持ってる。
機能性?
ちゃんと中身を分かって使ってるし
パソコンも宗教みたいに派閥があって
マックを持ってる人たちってよく言うじゃん。
スタバでマックいじってる人っていう言葉結構見るけど
あれって結構やゆしてる言葉でもあるじゃん。
確かに。
かっこいいけど
側にこだわってる人たちみたいな
ちょっと皮肉を込めて言う人たちも結構多いし
なんかでもWindowsだったら
BIOとか
18:01
Lenovoとか
いろんなブランドがあって
そこからまず選ぶわけ。
でもAppleのプロダクトより安いじゃん。
会社で働いてた時は
常にLenovoとかWindowsのプロダクトを渡してくれた。
だってスペックのレベルを選べるから。
でもマックはもうブランディング費用も
でもパソコンのプロじゃないから
変なこと言えないけど
インクルーテッド
だってもうブランディングがすごいから
ブランディングコストがもうアドされてる。
から
でもアイラブマックだよ。
でもアイラブ
Every kind
Like you need to learn the story
How they make the product
だから別にどれでもいいけど
I like the people
Has taste
Like when they choose PC
Or any
別にファッションでも何でもいいんだけど
People should have reasons to have those things
でしょ
But if you don't have a taste
It can go wrong if you choose a Mac
った感じ
I see
マックを選べば間違いはないと思う。
だからI have a Macも持ってるし
I use Windows for work
一旦全部使ってみて
どっちのいいところも知りたいなとは思ってるよ
なんかめっちゃこんなパソコンオタクで
でも
結構パソコンの選び方に
パソコンの選び方については
ファッションと同じくらいめっちゃ熱い意見がある
I have a question
How did you join the first company
And then move to this
Freelance?
Yeah, styles
Cuz I'm about to start a freelance work style
And I learned a lot of things from you
But I want to know how you
You know
Get into this work style
Maybe you wanna know my epic failure story
My first company
You used to work at a fashion advertising agency
簡単に言ったら広告代理店
Which focused on fashion industry
That's why I do a lot of fashion stuff
For how long?
Three years and a half
新卒で
Three years and a half I was at an advertisement agency
I remember it cuz I was in Tokyo at the time
広告代理店のこと話したらそれもめっちゃ長いけど
それをやって
イメージ通り
21:00
It's super tough job
For mentally
Physically also
Fashion advertisement
It doesn't matter for fashion
In Japan, it's really hard
I did the internship
It was hard
I had to wake up early
Sometimes you're like
Maybe I'm a dog
For my company
For my clients
There are people who are tougher
But I know the essence of toughness
営業とあれに分かれてよね
クリエイティブなチームに
営業チームが
ほとんどで
営業で
So you were a sales?
営業だよ
営業
Which means I did everything they want
人のケアみたいなところだよね
スペシャリティを追い求める仕事っていうよりかは
I was young
3 years
I was not really in charge for a big client
だからその
若手の経験しかないから
そこまでしか
そこまでのことを言ってるけど
I learned
Discipline
Self-discipline
もう何でも耐え抜きます
気合です
ロジカルなことは何も
考えてる暇もない
何してたんだろうってぐらい
車と運転と
買い物と
でも撮影とかもいろいろあるし
普通に
広告の
今はデジタルマーケティングしてるけど
最初の1,2年ぐらいは
雑誌の
広告撮ったり
お客さんの
服とかを雑誌に載せてもらう
そういうのを結構してたから
At the beginning of
I joined that company
I was always thinking
How can I work remotely
Already
The more I did
The paper magazine job
Makes me sick
It's really
I love cute people
24:00
I can meet cute people
And creative people
That was really good
But when I was working in a magazine
I thought I was trapped in a place
You need to start at the same places
And you don't have much time
For you
And at that time
In the fashion industry
Digital marketing wasn't
well known
So
At that time
The word influencer
Was popular
5,6 years ago
So I was like
I'm doing Instagram
I slowly tried to move
For digital side
At my work
And I found a good boss
He was
Really good at
Digital thing
So I would stick to him
That was a good choice
I wanted to do this job
So I started
And in the second half
1.5 years
Most of my job was
Doing social media
Marketing
That's why
You started
The new career
After that
Advertisement overall
I started from that
But I consciously
Started from that
But
I didn't quit
Because I thought I could
I had
I had
Confidence
As always
As working
At
Advertisement company
I can see all
What do you call it?
I could
Understand
How much it cost
For specific
A stylist, a photographer
Agency fee
Or the other stuff
Because I was making
Estimate
Ok
I could understand
How much it cost
By the level
So I always
Consciously
This writer
Cost
100,000 for one shooting
20,000 for one shooting
For one shooting
Or one article
I could understand
So I thought
I could do this much
So I started
If I have this skill
I can ask for 50,000 yen
Like that
In my head
Ok
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So that's how you learned
This industry
At the time
You moved on to the new career
So far
But maybe I should
Talk about how I became
Freelance
Make a living
Ok
That's very interesting
Thing
I don't know how other freelancer
Became as a freelancer
Successfully
My story is like
After I quit my job
I had one friend
Talking about new business
So I was really excited
To having our
Company
But long story short
He disappeared
He disappeared?
What?
He disappeared
I didn't do anything
That's so sad
People come and go
It happens to me
So I get used to it
I can't believe it
Some people are really
Sensitive
It's difficult to stop talking to people
Who I used to talk
But
It's decided
They run away
Because of work
Because it's painful
I see
But I can't save them
It's their choice to run away
Or you know
That's so sad
Responsible for others
And since I'm doing
Agency job, I'm good at apologizing
I'm good at
Apologizing
And moving on
That's my job
So it's good
And
So I lost one of my hope
And
Actually
One of my ex-clients
Became one of my account
As a freelancer
After I quit my job
But that happens like
Two, three months later
So
I had no
Salary for
About three months
And I was in States
For fun
Maybe 30 days
When you went to San Diego?
Right?
I went to Hawaii, San Diego
And Texas
I played too much
I spent a lot of money
Without thinking
Of course I don't have money
Right? At the end
That sounds fun
I thought I could be a freelancer
But I didn't have money
I had a job
But I was
30:00
What?
Taking over
So I was like
I'm good
And I lost my money
For three months
So
It was frustrating
But as a backup plan
I did a regular job
I told everyone
That I would be free
But I was just a normal
Freelancer
So it wasn't a sign
But it was frustrating
I was like, what should I do?
Right?
But I had to live
So I had one of my client's job
Maybe
How did you pay your rent?
Apartment
It's really embarrassing
But I asked my mom
To borrow some money
And she was so mad
Like, you knew this happened
Yes, I knew
I'm sorry, but I need money
So I asked my mom
To borrow some money
And I said I'm sorry
But I knew I had a job
So I had another job
But usually
You don't get 90% of your job
Even if you have a backup plan
I knew that
But I quit
And I borrowed money
Being freelancer
Is really tough
Having
One account is not enough
To live
That at the very
I don't know
After I came back to the states for traveling
I knew I had
I had a one job
But you need to make more
I could expect it like maybe
I'm in the same position right now
Maximum 200,000 for a month
If I work in Tokyo
But I couldn't live with 200,000
Because of my lifestyle
I didn't know what to do
Then one of my senpai
Started their business
So I asked them
To work with them
And I got a second job
Congratulations
With two jobs
I could barely live
But I thought
This is not enough
So I kept looking
And at that time
I told everyone
That I started being a freelancer
If I have a job, please
Anything
Something related to my experience
And one of my friends
Asked me to join her company
Which is
My current cloud funding
Company
That's how you get it
They asked me to be
A full time employee
I didn't like it
So for me
It was really flexible
I still could work as a freelancer
33:00
But I could be
A full time job
Which is really lucky
Yeah
That's like a dream
Story
It wasn't what I expected
But it's easy to get insurance
Yeah
So
That's what I need to deal with it
From now on
Then, after I joined
The cloud funding company
This is really
Just a coincidence
One of my
Ex-clients
Was my friend
She is
Secretly a CEO
I don't know why but she
Took care of me a lot
Always
Worrying about
How I'm doing
Do you have enough money
She introduced me
To a new client
Which is really really famous
Fashion brand
She said to me
You should have experience
You should have it on your regimen
As a freelancer
You should take it
So I said
I will do it
Then I got 4 jobs
Wow
You are so busy
Suddenly
Finally
I can live like a human
That's how it started
So
When I say
I work as a freelancer
It sounds really good right
You need to cherish
The people you are around
Like people you are around
You need to always
You need to be really patient
You need to be really patient
And don't expect
For money
You need to be really patient
And don't expect
For money
And don't expect
For money
I have a lot of friends who take me to work, and I have a lot of friends who take me to small businesses.
All of my work is done from the same perspective.
It's not motivation.
It's from the same perspective.
36:02
It's rude to judge.
I try to do it from the same perspective.
So I don't know if it's okay.
So you deal with it equally, even though it's a big client or small client.
When I help Akane, I don't say,
It's free and it's a friend's job.
I don't say that.
Of course, I don't spend a lot of time on it.
I manage my own time.
I use my skills to the maximum to make it work.
You're such a professional.
I like to do a lot of things in my free time.
If you join a company, it's easier.
It's a stable job, and you don't worry about your salary, rent, life, and everything.
Because the company deals with it.
But become a freelancer, it's on you.
It's a lot of responsibility.
Everything is on you.
But it depends on you.
You can make more money.
And you can do your dream job.
But you need to be like I said earlier.
I'm getting drunk, so I can't think straight.
I don't know.
Even if you're an independent and successful person,
It breaks your confidence at some point.
Because when you become individuals,
What you do is how much you are.
And if you're not good, you're fired.
Japanese companies don't fire you just because you're good.
I'm scanning myself.
Did I deserve for a job?
Did my client pay a reasonable price?
You decide your price.
I decide my price, but every time I finish my task,
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And if it's not good, I ask myself at the end of the day,
Did I do enough quality work for them?
It's hard because there's no measure.
I always ask myself that.
I also ask my senpais for advice.
I ask myself if my pricing is right.
I said it in a cool way, but every time I negotiate a price,
I ask my senpai what I should do with the mail.
You have people that you can ask, right?
If you don't have them, it's not about sense,
It's about trust.
I know.
Because everyone's personality is already messed up.
It's already messed up.
If you don't put your maximum power where you can show your sincerity,
You look like an idiot.
Even if you're not a freelancer,
Because everyone looks down on you.
Especially in the industry.
I think so.
I've been bullied since I was a freshman.
I'm not bullying, but this person is a young man in his 20s.
And he's from Okinawa.
There are a lot of times when I'm just looking down on him.
There are people who support freelancers if they make that decision in their 20s.
There are people who are the opposite.
I don't say it out loud, but I can see their attitude.
But if you live up to that,
I know.
If you live up to that,
You cannot reach your goal.
Or the point you want to become.
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Recently I realized,
Being a freelancer needs to be the person you decide everything by yourself.
I feel like I've made a lot of decisions by myself.
And you can decide everything by yourself.
You need to research, you need to ask people, and you need to make decisions.
Big decisions.
I felt like I had a lot of such occasions.
That's why I'm learning a lot right now.
Yeah, it's new.
I learned a lot.
A lot more than I used to be in a company.
Because there is no rule.
Do you think it fits you?
I think so.
But I really don't think so right now.
Because it's really difficult for me.
But people around me always say like,
You should be a freelancer.
That makes me more confident.
People around me always say that.
I think it's better to believe that.
Compared to other people in Okinawa,
I have more experiences than I have skills.
So if you want to do it, then just do it.
Because there are people who say that,
I quit my job and I start my new job.
So...
So you need to be your own way.
Yeah.
I've seen people who are good at managing people in big organizations.
I don't encourage people to be a freelancer at all.
It can be really dangerous.
It's risky.
Yeah, risky.
If it wasn't for my mom, I might have become a freelancer.
Because I lost.
Yeah, you could be a homeless.
If I didn't have a choice, I had no choice but to be a freelancer.
But I was spoiled.
That's why I'm successful now.
But it's really embarrassing to tell my mom about this.
Everyone has an embarrassing story behind their success.
I wouldn't say successful.
Better life.
When they are in a new stage.
So I don't think I'm doing well just on the surface.
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So everybody asks Minami when you want to be a freelancer.
I can encourage you emotionally.
But at the end, you need to decide what you want by yourself.
I can only encourage you.
Do what you want to do.
If you fail, you can move on to something else.
Yeah.
You always can go back to company.
You can do anything.
You can do what you like.
You don't have to do it when you are young.
I think so.
But if you eat and sleep every day, you can't do anything.
I don't have that much courage.
Fuck it.
I feel like I can't live without that kind of spirit.
I'm learning that kind of spirit from the people around me.
So...
Thank you.
I really think so.
Without people around me, I can't do my job.
I'm grateful to all the annoying and good clients.
I'm grateful to all the annoying and good clients.
She said she appreciates people.
That's very important.
And I'm sorry.
I appreciate people around me.
It's good to think like that.
When I quit my job, I was grateful to people around me.
I understand that.
I'm not saying it's bad.
I don't have to worry about people around me.
I don't have to worry about people around me.
They supported me.
You can even learn a good thing from shitty people.
It depends on you.
Did you call me?
No, I didn't.
Did you say, Hey Siri?
Did you say, Hey Siri?
No, I didn't.
I don't need you.
I don't need you.
Okay. Bye bye, Siri.
I think I can talk forever.
That's all for today.
For Minami's work talk.
Good luck, everyone.
Today, we talked about Minami's story.
That's right.
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It was mainly your job.
But that was the most interesting for me.
That's good.
I also appreciate you, Minami.
She always sends me messages.
We communicate a lot.
She encourages me.
When I decided to be a freelancer and when I quit my job, she always says positive words.
That makes me really confident and energetic.
That's all.
Thank you for Minami advertising.
It was a good story and a good talk.
That's all for today.
Okay.
See you next time.
See you next time.
Bye bye.
Bye.
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