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What's up guys! This is IYASASA RADIO by Akane and Minami.
In this radio, we are going to talk about random topics in Okinawan, Japanese and English.
はいたいぐすうようちゅうがなびらあ。
イヤササレディオのアカネとミナミがやいびん。
うぬレディオでぐすうよんかい英語とウチナーグチさんに
いっぺーうむさるはなしつづけやんでてうむとおいびん。
はーい。
前回インスタライブで反響があったので、
今日はSNSに関するメンタルイシューのお話をしたいと思います。
イェイ!イェイ!イェイって感じでもないけど、
ちょっとディープなトピックを選んでみました。
今日はほんといい話すると思うので、みんな楽しみにしててください。
パードルあげた。
今から記事紹介してから2人で話していくんだけど、
あくまでもアカネとミナミのパーソナルエクスペリエンス
and パーソナルオピニョンだから、
We are not therapists, we are not professionals,
だからあくまでも個人的なお話ですという感じで
カジュアルに聞いてください。
ゆたしく。
じゃあ、記事を持ってきたので読みます。
Study offers new insights on how social media affects girls' mental health.
The researchers tracked about 10,000 teens in Britain for two years.
The participants were 13 to 14 years old when the study began in 2013
and 15 to 16 when it ended in 2015.
In the first survey, the team asked the participants
only how many times they logged into social media apps
including Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, and WhatsApp.
In the study's second year, they asked about their experiences
with cyberbullying, sleep, and physical activity.
In the third year, the participants were asked about
their well-being life, satisfaction, and anxiety levels.
The researchers were interested in whether variables like
cyberbullying and sleep loss might explain the connection
between social media use and psychological distress.
The teens' social media use rose varies steadily over the years
with 43% of boys and 51% of girls using social media
multiple times a day in the first year.
They compared to 69% of boys and 75% of girls using it
in the third year of the study.
The results led the authors to suggest that most of the impact
that social media has on the mental health is due to
what it presents take us away from.
For instance, it takes us away from sleep and exercise
which are each essential for mental health.
The research team of Essex University of the UK and
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the University College of London
pointed out that teens who use social media for a long time
have a higher risk of depression,
and the tendency is particularly high among women.
The researchers conducted a survey of over 10,000 teens
aged 14 and asked them to answer questions
related to social media use.
The participants felt miserable about using social media.
They felt it wasn't fun.
They responded that they lost motivation,
but did not agree.
The results showed that women had a higher dependence
on social media than men.
The percentage of women using social media for more than 3 hours a day
was 40% for women and 20% for men.
The percentage of women who do not use social media at all was 4%,
and 10% for men.
The results of comparing the groups using social media for less than 3 hours
and the groups using social media for more than 3 hours
showed that the tendency of depression was 26%
for women using social media for more than 3 hours.
The percentage of men using social media for more than 3 hours
was 21% for men.
The percentage of men using social media for more than 5 hours
showed that the tendency of depression was 50% for women
and 35% for men.
Jean Twenge, who has been studying the effects of social media use
on young people's mental health for many years,
pointed out that the size of the health damage
depends on gender.
Another researcher said that women have a stronger tendency
to compare themselves with others through social media
and pointed out that this leads to bad results.
What did you think when you saw this article?
According to the article,
I'm 14 or 15 years old,
so it's a little different from the generation in the south.
It's not really surprising that more girls
are affected by social media than boys.
But I didn't know that.
Not at all?
I didn't even know there is a problem
about social media using.
For mental health?
Yeah, mental health.
I've been searching this kind of article a lot
from a couple of years ago,
so it sounds familiar to me.
Everyone uses social media,
so it's important to know
that you're not sick,
even if you know you're not sick.
When you get older,
your job changes,
your friends change,
so even if you know you're affected by social media,
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it might be able to change your perspective
when you use it.
You can prevent it.
How often and how long do you use social media a day?
Social media overall is like...
I use social media for work,
but I feel like I spend more than 10 hours a day on social media.
But it's not like posting stories that everyone imagines.
I don't use email.
For business conversations,
I use Facebook and Instagram.
It's necessary to use every day for work for you.
But personally, just for fun,
I don't spend more than 2-3 hours a day on social media.
So the percentage...
What did you say?
If you use social media for more than 3 hours,
it's 40%.
If you use social media for more than 5 hours,
it's 50% for women.
Oh my gosh.
You can't use social media for more than 5 hours.
I think 5 hours is a long time.
But don't you watch it on your day off?
I do.
I don't unconsciously open Instagram and post stories.
I don't think about it.
I don't watch it, but it might affect me.
It doesn't have to be Instagram.
You can use TikTok, Facebook,
What about YouTube?
I watch YouTube one-sidedly.
It's kind of different.
If you're a YouTuber or something,
and you keep checking how many followers you have,
maybe it causes a problem.
What about the podcast?
Podcast...
I think it depends on the content
I think it depends on the content
that you want to spread.
For the podcast, we're not individual.
We're as a team.
I don't think there's anything to hold on to alone.
But for a personal account,
if it directly hits on your personality,
it can be dangerous.
If it directly hits on your personality,
it can be dangerous.
There are many ways to look at it.
We pick up the negative side.
It's a really scary article.
But SNS is just a tool.
We're just picking up the negative side.
We're just picking up the negative side.
How do you use your work and private SNS?
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How do you use your work and private SNS?
I just heard you send a message.
I just heard you send a message.
For work...
We use social media to contact each other.
We don't just use that for young people.
We don't just use that for young people.
Since we're an IT company in Tokyo.
For old men, too.
We don't do it to social media.
Something has to be quicker than anything.
Like, email is really slow.
It doesn't come at that moment.
And the sentences are long.
So...
That...
It's a little different story, but...
By the way...
Like I mentioned before, I do digital marketing.
My job is mainly focused on social media.
There are times like that.
Not just social media, but also online ads.
I do a lot of different things, but...
I think there are a lot of things that connect.
I also do the writing stuff.
Yeah.
So...
Imagine when you search on Google or Yahoo.
There is like a small box of images for Datsumou.
Like, let's get a pigtail.
Like Google ads?
Yeah, like that.
It's part of my job.
So...
Or when I'm looking at Instagram,
There are about 5 ads per feed.
Yeah.
I write sentences like that.
Oh, I see.
So, as a distributor,
Yeah.
We are focused on how many clicks we expect.
And how many people click on those images and videos.
And how many people look at the page.
Those are the important points.
So, how do we get people to click?
We need to get people to click on something.
But...
We can use both positive and negative.
Of course, it's an ad.
There is a lot of regulation.
How to sell the things.
Yeah.
Maybe some listeners have already seen the ad on YouTube.
With the animation of Datsumou advertisement.
Yeah.
Like this.
I'm going on a date with this guy today.
Something like that.
Isn't A-chan really healthy?
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Oh, I've seen it before.
I know.
In the past couple months,
It appeared so many times on my feed.
I never clicked.
And I never searched that Datsumou thing.
But it appears every day.
I watch YouTube at work.
I thought it was annoying.
What Minami is evaluating is...
There are a lot of things that I watch from the beginning of the story.
How does this guy end up going to Datsumou?
I know that all the stories end up in Datsumou.
But I always use a different anime.
As a way of expression,
Sometimes I'm like,
I don't do it while looking at it.
But when I look at it calmly,
There are too many Datsumou advertisements in Japan.
In trains,
On TV,
On YouTube.
It's guilty to have hair.
Actually, it doesn't matter.
It depends on the person.
In America,
There are people who grow their armpits.
Or make their armpits blue.
Japanese women used to have bush under their armpits.
But now it's like,
If you don't have armpit hair, you're guilty.
But it depends on your preference.
Gradually,
They gradually pressuring on women's perception of their beauty.
That's what I think.
I'm like, wow.
It's a long story.
But I'm doing it as a job.
I feel a bit responsible.
The thing I do,
Impact on maybe younger generation.
As an advertiser,
I think I have to search and pay attention to various things.
I agree.
Using people's complexes.
It makes me feel like,
I'm doing something bad.
Bad things.
There are so many genres.
I'm scared.
For example,
For Japanese,
There is Obe complex.
But now,
There are a lot of white models.
It's getting worse.
It's getting worse.
Body positive campaign.
There are a lot of things.
It's still a new thing.
Maybe.
Most of Japanese people think,
Whiter,
Skinnier,
Bigger boobs,
Bigger eyes.
That's cute.
I think so.
I want more diversity.
I agree.
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What do you think, Akane?
How to use it.
When we chose this topic,
We talked about it.
It's totally different from Minami.
Positive,
Sparkling,
I've never cared about it.
I agree.
Maybe,
I sometimes use Instagram,
Facebook,
or any social media more than 3 hours a day.
But,
I've never felt negative
to social media before.
I wasn't so...
How can I say?
It wasn't
familiar
for me.
But,
Like Minami,
You can use it at work,
or in private.
You can use it for a long time.
You see the
other side of you.
Then,
you may feel
negative or depressed.
I think so.
But,
I use social media
mainly in private.
Recently,
I've been using a wedding account.
I use it for my memories
and connecting with people.
Right.
So,
I've never taken it seriously.
But,
sometimes,
it takes too long to post
my Instagram.
Because,
I used to post
without thinking about anything.
But,
sometimes,
I post something like
what I did years ago.
I don't care about it.
But now,
my parents,
my boss,
and my colleagues
watch my posts.
I became more serious about social media now.
Because,
a lot of people see my post
and I'm sometimes
anxiety how they think.
How
they see me
on Instagram
or Facebook.
So,
it takes a long time to post.
Right.
But,
I sometimes think
why it takes so long to post.
My life is here.
So,
I don't use my phone anymore.
That's why I take time to post.
A while ago,
we posted Instagram stories.
You said,
I'm tired of Instagram.
I thought it was good.
I don't want to use it anymore.
Let's dance!
That's what I thought.
I have to share it.
It's fun.
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I post stories,
talk to people,
and take photos.
I don't care about Instagram or social media.
I like to take photos
on my phone.
It's fun.
But,
I don't want to
engage with people in front of me.
It's a waste of time.
I'm enjoying the view.
It's a waste of time.
So,
I don't use my phone anymore.
That's what I think.
Don't you think so?
Yes, I do.
When you go on a trip.
I unconsciously look at my phone
and say,
I'm crazy.
That's it.
When was it?
Maybe,
3 or 4 years ago,
I came back to Okinawa
for my friend's wedding.
I met my high school friends
there.
I went to the wedding venue
directly from the airport.
I had a
suitcase.
I dressed up
like a Japanese girl.
I had blonde hair.
My hair was much shorter.
I looked different
from anybody else.
That's what I felt.
Everyone
was looking at my Instagram.
Minami showed up.
She said,
a Tokyo career woman came.
She was half Japanese.
But,
some people said
she was
amazing.
I think
I had a little
darkness on my social media.
My friends
who I knew
looked at me
and I felt uncomfortable.
I'm still me.
Nothing has changed.
Nothing didn't get any better.
I don't mean it in a bad way,
but I thought
it was weird.
I thought they were looking at me
in a bad way.
But now,
it's totally different.
I know, right?
That's what I thought.
I was happy, but
I couldn't accept it.
I felt like an idiot.
I felt like
I was keeping everyone away.
I didn't feel anything
when I was there.
I thought I had a bright career.
But I didn't know
what a career was.
Probably you think
Minami on Instagram and Minami
in reality is totally different,
but people see you
on Instagram.
That's why you feel the gap.
Yes.
At that time,
there was a gap.
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It was a long time ago.
It's totally different now.
I would be happy
if I was told that I had a bright career.
It's normal to be happy.
I mean,
I'm happy
when I'm mentally stable.
Minami is
super stable now.
But at that time,
after I left Tokyo for a couple of years,
I was struggling
for my career path.
When I was
worried about
my career path,
I found this.
I was like,
wow.
If you post
everything
as you are,
probably you don't feel the gap.
Then you don't feel
stress as much
as you felt before.
I think that time
when I was posting,
I go to some brand reception
or I hang out
with the influencers.
They were not
really close.
So,
my ego and
my true self
were a little bit different.
You said that
you are not friends.
Yes.
They are not bad.
But Minami has a mental issue.
I checked
at that time.
But nobody...
I think I talked to my
co-worker. They were maybe
6 or 7 years older than me.
I talked to them.
Minami said,
I might be sick.
I said, I can't quit.
They said, why don't you quit?
I thought
I shouldn't say that easily.
If I quit that easily,
nobody will worry about me.
So, I didn't discuss with them.
I didn't talk to them.
I just searched by myself.
So,
I checked my
guy's friend's Instagram.
I checked
their Instagram.
They were
totally
different from Akane.
They didn't care about
what people think.
Their Instagram is all fake.
I checked their Instagram.
I thought
I should do this.
I posted silly things.
I didn't post
silly things.
Then, I became stable.
I agree.
Minami said
before
on Instagram live.
I got into
that.
If I use a long time,
I will have mental and health issues.
At the same time,
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I got to know
how people see me.
I got to know
how many followers I have.
I got to know
how many filters I have.
I got to know
that's not
what I am.
That's not
what I want to do.
When you are on
negative thought cycle,
negative things can go
only negative.
When you are on positive mood,
only positive things
can go.
Negative cycle and
negative opposite cycle.
Negative cycle.
Negative cycle.
Only negative things can go.
When you are on
negative cycle,
you have to
save yourself.
You have to think about it.
That's what I thought.
I agree.
You said something about the sun.
Did you understand?
Yes, I did.
I invented some analogy
about positive and
negative cycle.
Imagine if you are
the sun.
Akane is like
the sun.
The sun is like
the sun.
The sun is
shining by themselves.
It's a sphere.
When you are shining,
no matter what you see,
front, back,
up, down,
the sun is shining.
Because it's shining.
Yes.
It makes sense that
Akane has never felt
negative thoughts on social media.
She is shining by herself.
She doesn't care about it.
When she sees something weird,
she complains about it.
She is shining because
she is shining.
Don't worry.
She is stupid.
In a good way,
she is stupid.
I'm sorry.
I'm not a cosmologist.
If you are the moon,
the moonlight is coming
from the sun at night.
At night,
the moonlight is coming from somewhere.
Let's say so.
The moon is visible at night.
The moon is visible at night
because of the moonlight.
But it's not visible at noon.
If it's not shining,
it's the same as
if the sun is upside down.
It's just dark.
It makes sense.
That is when you are
on negative thoughts cycle.
I think so.
But
I didn't realize
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I'm a positive person
until you told me.
Really?
Akane doesn't have
negative thoughts.
But
I realized
I'm not as heavy
as you are.
You are wearing
a dark necklace.
But you told me
I'm a positive person.
You are living
while thinking so.
No matter what happens,
it's okay because I'm positive.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm getting better.
Minami is
accelerating me.
Accelerating you?
You are shining more.
I think it's a good thing
to tell others.
You are a dark person.
But
even if you are dark,
you are a bright person.
If I tell you that,
you might think I'm bright.
I don't care about
color things.
I used to be
a dark person.
Now I'm trying always
to make a compliment
as much as I can.
That's awesome.
I even find
a positive thing
with the bad people.
I used to
not be able to tell others
that I'm a positive person.
I've been telling people
that I'm a positive person.
But some people
don't like it.
I tell them because I'm happy.
If they don't like it,
I stop saying to that person.
I want to be a good person.
I've been thinking about it
for decades.
I want to be a good person.
My body moves
to be closer to it.
The negative things
are the same.
If you think about it
once a day,
you will feel
getting worse
next week.
It's like
sickness comes from the tree.
I think it's the same.
Your body and your mind
are connected.
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I love myself right now.
As of today,
I'm doing my best of the day.
That means
I can get better tomorrow.
And the day after tomorrow,
I'll be awesome.
I think like a fool.
It's only a matter of feeling.
If you look in the mirror
and say,
Oh my god, I look so pretty.
You can praise people.
If you praise someone,
you can say,
Thank you for complimenting me.
You're awesome too.
We make a compliment
to each other.
For good.
I wonder
what kind of relationship it is.
I think it's better
to do it with anyone.
It doesn't matter what it is.
It doesn't matter if it's clothes
or hair.
I think it's better
to say it in words.
For me,
it gives me
a positive energy.
For the other person,
I believe
it won't be
a negative thing.
That's why I keep saying it.
That's a good thing.
Thank you.
If you praise someone,
they'll be embarrassed.
I don't know.
That's why I thought
it was funny.
I don't feel embarrassed
to say it.
I'd be happy
if you enjoyed it.
I love you.
I love you too.
I'm sorry.
It's a very quiet room.
We're working alone.
Go and
tell everyone
I love you.
Can I continue this story?
When I was in America,
I had a lot of time
alone.
I was very sad.
I got homesick.
But I
motivated myself
every day.
How?
Like,
I was able to take the train alone today.
I don't know.
I was able to go to Bryant Park for the first time today.
You said it
vocally?
In your heart?
I said it in my heart.
I came to Times Square alone today.
I went here and there.
I told myself
I was like a celebrity.
I enjoyed it
by myself.
When I'm with my friends,
I don't do that.
Of course,
it's not in that direction.
There are so many tourists.
I'm alone.
What?
I'm in Times Square.
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I'm standing alone
on Brooklyn Bridge.
There are ways to get used to it.
But even this
I enjoy it by myself.
Because this is a limited time.
I'm doing something like this.
It's amazing.
It's cool.
I was able to
get used to it.
I was able to get used to it.
I think it's good to compliment myself.
I think it's good to compliment myself.
But how did you invent that way?
Did you have a reason to do that?
Did you have a reason to do that?
No.
I was lonely.
I was lonely.
I almost cried.
I almost cried.
Because
the host family was a crazy person.
I was living in a room
in the attic.
I was scared because I didn't know
when they would come.
I made it
a funny story.
I was living in a room
in the attic in Brooklyn, New York.
I was living in a room in the attic in Brooklyn, New York.
I was living in a room in the attic in Brooklyn, New York.
I was wondering
if I could make it fun by myself.
I was wondering if I could make it fun by myself.
But now
I can change it
into a funny story.
So I think
complimenting others is good.
Complimenting you and me.
Complimenting you and me.
Complimenting you and me.
That's it.
I think you become
a person as you think.
心で
確かに
で、思ったことの通りに
引き寄せ?みたいなの
南と赤では多分信じてる人だから
It's not spiritualだし
It just makes senseじゃん
ポジティブな人にはポジティブな人が集まるし
引き寄せって言ってるけど
結局自分でそうさせてるんだと思う
それを引き寄せって思ったら楽しいって感じ
あ、そうだね
だってこの前もこの人とつながりたいねって言ってたら
この人が寄ってきたみたいなこととかが
それはめっちゃあるよ
あるから
やっぱそれを思い続けて
無意識の中にそう自分が行動して
Make my dream come true
って感じ
なんかさ、ちょっと話脱線するけど
脱線しまくってる
会いたい人とかさ
本当に本当にもう心で念じまくったら
南絶対会えると思うわけ
例えばさ
これは言っても大丈夫かって感じだけど
これ言い続けたら絶対死ぬまでに叶うと思うわけよ
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あ、もうお祈りしよう
お祈りしようね毎日
言うことで知る人がいて
その人が誰かに行ったりとか
いろんなとこで人ってコネクトしていくから
もしかしたら
美容生はもしかしたら言い過ぎたかもしれないけど
そんなセレブリティを
もう別世界の人とか思わないで
みんないつも言ってるけど
All human race だから
As a same human being として
やばい人に会いたいとかじゃなくて
人間的に素敵だから
We have something in common
って思う人とはレベルっていうか
ソーシャルステータスがどんだけ違くても
Lower or upper でも
会いたいと思えば絶対に会えるし
ちゃんと目的を持って
会いたいと思ったらそういう人間になれるように
勝手に努力しだすから
Be a big mouth って感じ
ボクサーみたいさ
絶対勝つみたいな
二人とも100%違いで勝つって言って
どっちか負けるわけじゃん
絶対ボクシングって
Any kind of competition
Especially 格闘技
あれめっちゃ面白いと思ってて
だって絶対どっちか負けるのに
どっちも勝つって言い続けるわけじゃん
As a performance
それ超大事で
ベニューを盛り上げるし
オーディエンスも
答えわかってんだけど
やっぱ勝つ勝つ勝つ勝つって思うのが
振り立たせるから
言い聞かせね
Be a big mouth
Let's be a big mouth
In a good way
In a good wayね
はい
じゃあまた
SNSの話したいと思います
何の話?
What was today's topic?
何でしょうか
でも自分たちはミレニアル世代だから
スマホが出てきた時代と
柄系の時代を経験しているからこそ
認識しやすいと思うわけ
でも今の子ってさ
みんなTikTokとか超使ってるけど
もうSNSスマホの時代に
もう3歳くらいから
iPad、iPhone使ってます
の時代になってきてるから
このメンタルイシューとかが
もっと広がると思う
しみんなそうなる前に
知っといたほうがいいと思う
Yeah
We need to educate ourselves
and I think like
school hopefully teach them to
how to use digital things
not only in the social media
だけど
じゃあteachersってさ
南なんかの世代が
それ上ってなると
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We don't know what's going on
本当にわからないから
南なんかはさ
間の世代で
生きてるから
なんとなく違いわかる
親の世代とかは
じゃあなんでいちいちやるの?みたいな
もうやめれみたいな
Simple as that
みたいな感じで言う人もいるし
That's not the point
We are in this world right now
In this era dattara
we cannot get out of this
digital world or the technology
別にソーシャルメディア使わなくたって
Technology is everywhere
使えないと
ついていけないときもあるから
じゃあ森に行ってさ
無人島に行って
自給自足するしかないってなるじゃん
そんなのできないじゃん
しかもさ今
就職活動の面接とかでも
フォロワー何人ですか?で判断される時代
っていうの超びっくりした
なんかあるよね
フォロワー多い採用あるよね
That's so different
昔と
新しいですね
時代が
会社でもさ
これはソーシャルメディアにあげないでください
っていう教育もあるし
それぐらいもう
あなたの生活の中にいますよ
親も一応
知ってた方がいいんじゃないかなって思う
どの世代も
the danger
of this digital world
日本語でも
英語でもデジタルリテラシーって言うんだけど
よく
南中の会社とかだとさ
あの人リテラシー低いですよ
高いですよでみんな
クイックにその人判断できたりするわけ
低いイコールこういうこと
言った方がいい高いイコール
言い方をした方が
話が早いねみたいな
いうなんか勝手な
格付けみたいなのがあるんだけど
なんかもうそれぐらい
同世代とか仕事の内容とかで
リテラシーの差がどんどん
出てきてるから
多分親だから教えられるとか
南中の世代だから教えられるとかじゃなくて
知ってる人が
教えるしかなくて
なんか
I think about my friend in Japan
and my friend in the States
アメリカの人たちの方がどっちかと言ってリテラシー
総合的に高いと思うわけ
みんな何でもできるよね
そうガジェットに興味が
基本的にあるし
それは女性男性関わらない
スペックで物を見るのは
結構得意
実利主義っていうのか知らないけど
でも日本だったら
結構南の
クラウドファンディングで見てるから分かるんだけど
女性が圧倒的に
低いわけ
簡単に言ったら
携帯充電するさ
ちっちゃいバッテリー
モバイルバッテリーって言うんだけど
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それのスペックとか
分からないで買うみたいな
ちっちゃい例で言うと
それで男性の方がちゃんと
中身の容量と小ささを
見てるみたいな
それ同じ目線で
見た時に
男性の女性の友達は
普通にちゃんと
中身見てるわけ
っていうのを見た時に
やっぱりリテラシーは全然違うんだなと思って
それは親も
こっちは教えられないし
南なんかの
20 or 30 generationsも
若い子たちに
教えられないから
確かになんかさ
Podcastのさ
I didn't know about podcast before
Until I started
自分の親も知らないし
兄弟もたぶん
Podcastっていう存在を知らないわけ
でも
アメリカ人の
高齢の人でも
Podcastはもう昔からあるものだし
It's a normal thing
みたいな感じで言われた時に
It's like a TVのレベルだよね
こんなにも
国でギャップがあるんだっていうことに
超びっくりした
それはわかるかも
だから
機械もだし
ソーシャルメディアもだし
そういうなんだろう
テクニカル系というの
テクノロジー系は
日本人はやっぱ
うっとい方なのかな
特に女性は
と思った
そう思う
まあなんか
人によるとは思うけど
アメリカは
Diversity cultureだから
いろんなの取り入れる
っていうスタンスがそもそもあるよね
新しいもの出たらみんな
取り入れるもん
あとビジネスマインドが発達してるから
新しいの取り入れた方が
金儲けになるみたいな
時間短縮できる便利とかね
そうそれはあると思う
なんていうの
めんどくさいことを嫌う文化だから
何か
Anything quicker, faster, easier
が許されるけど
日本人って結構
Patient cultureみたいな感じだから
ちょっと周り道してでも
耐えなさいよみたいな
のがあって
このDZEROっていう新しいことに
とかテクノロジーに関して
新しいことに対して
先進的に攻めていくのが
ちょっと悪じゃないけど
別にやらなくてもいいし
みたいなのはあるかも
アイパッドとか
使わないでちゃんと
鉛筆と紙でやりましょうみたいな
Of course it's important
to using pencil and paper
to write
a decent character
とかだけど
At the same time, we need to do it
これ共存してるものだから
Separately
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どっちかがいいとかじゃなくて
もう
この時代
2021だから
避けて通れないし
別に
アカネ最近さ
瞑想とかしてるじゃん
砂浜に足をくっつけて歩こうみたいなさ
それもやりながら
テクノロジーも
学べばいい
どっちも同時にやれば別にいいから
変に派閥みたいなのも
作る必要ないし
People in the logical side
People in the spiritual world
じゃなくて
同じだからみたいな
とは思う
どっちも取り入れた方がさ
It's good for you
It's hybrid
Yeah
じゃあ
SNSとどう
向き合う?
向き合いますか?
それはマジで課題だよね
なんかやっぱり一個は
According to the article too
Yeah
We need to be careful
How many hours we use social media in a day
We need to watch ourselves
目も悪くなるしね
だからさ
肩こりにもなるし
You use your brain a lot
When you see your phone or laptop
That's why you need to take a rest
While using it
だよね
iPhoneの機能でさ
何のアプリを何時間使ってますみたいな
あるよね
それ見たほうがいいと思う
びっくりするときあるから
こんなに使ってるみたいな
Instagram何時間
Facebook Messenger何分
全部出てくれるから
一回見直したほうがいいと思う
確かに
それやろう
それは本当に
テクノロジーのgood side
でも結局さ
いろんなことあるけど
必要なものだし
結局みんな好きだから
使うし
便利だし
In a business way
It's so convenient to use it
To engage with a lot of people
When people live
Far from you
とか
あんまりしゃべったことないけど
ハッシュタグとか
何
とか
それが
ビジネスのスタートになったりすることもある
からこそ
必要なものなんだけど
気をつけるために
時間を見る
ストレスをためないことが
大事だね
そうだね
一番この瞬間からできるのは
時間をチェックすることだと思う
意識的に減らしたら
気持ちも変わる
あとは何?裸足で地面を歩く?
裸足で地面を歩いた方がいいと思う
48:01
地球に帰る的なやつでしょ
あとはさ、さっき言ったけど
自分で気づく
気づいて
今はこの時間をみんなと過ごそう
料理しようとか
わからん
誰に見られてるとか
気にしないでおく
だってあなたの生活は今これだから
っていう気づき?
うんうんうん
大事じゃん
Yes
大事だと思う
Detox
うん
あとはなんかちょっとさ
例えばこのradio聞いて
なんかちょっと当てはまるかも
とか
何だろう
なんか最近ちょっと気にしすぎかも
とか
モヤモヤがあったら
自分に溜め込まないで
You should talk to people about it
Real people
まあ別に
それこそソーシャルメディアのメッセージ使って
話しても何でもいいんだけど
ちゃんと心をまっさら
開いて
話した方がいいと思う
し
なんかみなみやさ
I told my colleagues
とか
They didn't take it seriously
それでさ
どうやってみなみは
改善できたの
今のなんかハッピーな気持ちに
もうなんかそのときは
I tried
Detox couple times
And I didn't succeed
好きだから戻るわけまた
見たいしみたいな
Detoxって何日ぐらい
一週間ぐらい
それって携帯は使うけど
ソーシャルメディアは開かないってこと?
I deleted a specific app
で
それは見ないようにする
とかやったら
見ないで済むし
You can download the app in second
だから別に自分で
禁煙と似てるかもね
どこでも
また始められるんだけど
決める問題でしかないからさ
でやったことはあるし
だから
I talked to
I checked the other friend's account
Who looks really good
And don't give a fuck
Kind of things account
とか
Something positive or something educational
アカウントとか
そういういいアカウントがめちゃくちゃ存在してるから
Just exposing your
Sexuality
Like
All fake
みたいなアカウントをどんどんデリートしていって
どうでもいいよお前の人生になって
みたいな
見た目のことしか気にしねえだろ
51:01
みたいな
じゃなくて
For example, I follow NASA
NASAのアカウントとか超ロマンティックなの
Galaxyの種類を
言ってこれがこうで
あとなんか
悩みのアカウントもあるじゃん
面白いだけみたいな
それも超面白いし
あんまり
Doesn't relate to your
悩みのアカウントで
とかを見るようにしたら
Social mediaの見方も変わるし
確かに
There is so many
Information
That I can take it in a positive way
今ずっとちょっとネガなことを
話してたけど
逆に
How have I experienced
Using social media in a good way
ってなったらそれもめっちゃ語れるから
そこにどんどんフォーカスを変えていく
感じにしたね
I was observing myself from
The upper of my head
みたいな
それをやるしかないし
話す人いないんだったら
結構自分で何でも
解決していけるから
でもなんか悩みがあったら
Minamiに相談して
Minamiに相談すんの?
She already experienced it
By herself
だから
She sometimes can give you advice
できるかな
I can make
Compliment to you there
アカネが気にすんなっていう
後ろからね
And yay
踊ったりすれば
確かに
エクササイズはいいと思うよ
何でも
ジムとか
ダンシングとかのときって
絶対携帯見ないから
料理するときも
料理もいいかも
別のアクティビティの時間を増やしたら
勝手に
減るからかける時間が
特に運動とかさ
Minamiはアイスとボクシングだけど
全く何も考えてないし
強くなりたいだけ
みたいな
そういうところに意識持っていけば
勝手にディトークスできる
一日アップ消さなくても
そうだね
いやささRadioは
グッバイブスをみんなに
送りたいアカウントなので
うん
本当にこれも
It's the way we use in social media
なんだけど
ポッキャスティング
だけど
We experience so many things
and now we're here
and we started the podcast to spread
the positive energy to people
最初は
自分たちに
ポジティブエネルギーつくのが
最初の目的だから
でもそれめっちゃ大事にしてるかも
何?
54:01
ポジティブエネルギーをみんなに
みんなにね
この記事で
この
ディプレスが
おしゃれ化してるみたいな
ハッシュタグうつみたいな
って言ってたよね
ハッシュタグうつとか
なんかわからんけど
だるいとか
そういう暗いみたいなやつを
おしゃれに
投稿して
寂しげなサンセットの写真とかを
投稿して共感してもらうのは
やめたほうがいいみたいな記事があって
一応やめたほうがいいと思う
意味ないしみたいな
なんか
茜も落ち込むことあるし
なんかこう
ストレスがたまってるときとかもあるけど
それを別にみんなが
見るもので消化したくないわけ
だって
それ見たらみんなが暗くなるじゃん
暗くなるか
同じ暗いバイブス
だから
暗いバイブスが近寄ってきて
どんどんそれが広がると
不のサイクルに陥りそうだし
だから
なんか隣にいる人に
気になってることを話したりとか
あとなんかこの
携帯の中で日記が書けるやつがあるわけね
自分のiPhoneの中に
だから
ちょっとなんか思ったら
あそこに書いて
自分で消化したりとか
書くのいいよね
書くと自分の中で
なんかこう
誰か聞いてくれたではないけど
一通り言えたってなって
すっきりするわけ
だからそういう風にして
自分がめっちゃ
ハッピーって思ったりとか
めっちゃみんなに感謝したりとか
なんか超いい思い出ができた
っていうことしかポストしないわけ
基本
I'm so happy だから
この
All over the world
聞いてほしい
っていう気持ちぐらいでやってるわけさ
眩しい
そうか?
いいと思う
だから結局は自分のことしか考えてないかもしれんけど
なんかその方が
グッドなサイクルになりそうじゃん
うん
それを見て暗くなる人がいるかもしれない
じゃあ見ないで
そうだね
ディトックスして
ジム行く
運動でも
散歩でも
カラオケでも
映画とか何でもいいよ
何でもいい
Besides using social media
そうだね
物理的に離れるのがいいかもね
うんうん
南みたいに
I'm okay ってなった時に
You can go back to the social media
Convenient way
だね
はい
57:00
話にいいこと言ってるな
今日はなんか頭が冴えてる
トマトサワーで
トマトサワーで脳が活性化した
やっぱベジタブルはいいのかもね
そうだよ
あと健康的なもの食べたほうがいいと思う
うんわかる
最近ケミカルの味がちょっとわかるようになって
うん
ケミカルなご飯も別に好きだったけど
なんか
必要な時
もうこれがないと死ぬってなった時に
しか食べたくないってなってきた
うん
わかるよね味の違いは
じゃあ今日は
We talked about how social media affects
our mental health
うんうん
And our experience from it
うんうん
It taught us about how to cope with that problem
うんうん
But also in a good way of social media
って感じで
多分今の時代に
すごいフィットしてる
話題だったと思います
はい
Doesn't relate to any Okinawan thing
だけど
We would like to talk about more of this
Kind of like
みんなにリレイタブルなニュースを
届けたいね
To our generation
だから
みんなの反応とか
声を聞けたら
We'll be so happy
で
We invented some kind of new pose
These days
Last night
It's called chin pose
ごめん
文字通り顎ポーズなんだけど
We didn't actually
Invent it
Or they existed
For like many years
なんだけど
I don't know
It didn't make sense
It wasn't cute
だったので
こちらの名前も全くキュートじゃないんですが
チンと名付けまして
あの
最近ポストしてる
手の甲を顎の下に
ギョコンって置くやつです
それをみんなでやったら
Can you make the word better, please?
Yeah
Or you can say chin twice
You can check it on Instagram
だね
Our Instagram is only happiness
だから
ということで
チンって感じでした
That's all for today
みんなハッピーにいこうね
I love you
Love you
Bye
