00:00
Hiro Fujiwara
How did you like it?
ボー氏
How did I like it?
Hmm...
Let me see...
ボー氏
Well, as I said before,
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes.
ボー氏
Well,
Japan is the main character, or all the cast is Japanese.
Yes.
Actors.
Yes.
Well, they only speak Japanese.
Yes.
But the director is a movie director named Bill Wenders.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes.
ボー氏
There wasn't much Japanese style.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes, yes, yes.
ボー氏
Like drawing pictures.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes.
ボー氏
And, well,
Hiro Fujiwara
Hmm...
ボー氏
The way people draw.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes, yes, yes.
You wanted to see it, didn't you?
Yes.
Yes.
Did you have high expectations?
ボー氏
Not at all.
Hmm...
There were some opinions that I didn't like.
Oh, really?
Yes.
I heard that this part was good, but this part wasn't.
It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes, yes, yes.
ボー氏
It was almost good.
Hiro Fujiwara
I have no idea what kind of evaluation I'm getting.
Yes.
Is this going to be a spoiler?
ボー氏
I think so.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's been a long time.
ボー氏
It's a spoiler.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's a time when people who want to see it are watching it.
Yes.
What was the negative evaluation?
ボー氏
The negative evaluation was that it was too popular.
Hiro Fujiwara
Oh!
Yes, yes, yes.
ボー氏
I thought it was a fantasy, realistic work.
I thought it was convenient.
Hiro Fujiwara
Oh!
I thought it was a dreamy movie.
In the first place.
ボー氏
I thought it was a bit of a wish.
Hiro Fujiwara
Isn't that all?
ボー氏
If you say it's all, you don't want to do toilet cleaning.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's up to the viewer, right?
ボー氏
What do you want?
Hiro Fujiwara
I thought it was a story about someone who knows Taru.
Yes.
Isn't that a great dream?
ボー氏
Whose?
Hiro Fujiwara
Is it me?
ボー氏
Whose dream is it?
Hiro Fujiwara
It's like, what is happiness?
It's like, what is living happily?
It's just a way of thinking, a way of receiving, a way of living.
03:07
Hiro Fujiwara
I feel like I'm being shown.
ボー氏
Yes.
Hiro Fujiwara
He's been living a calm life all the time.
Basically, yes.
In that environment.
First of all, that dream.
He has no regrets or dissatisfaction in his environment.
In a way, he's enjoying happiness.
In that sense, the dream is packed.
And the casting for that environment is too dreamy.
First of all, it's Prince Yakusho.
The character in that position.
Prince Yakusho is so beautiful.
He has a very well-organized life.
He's poor, but he has a well-organized life.
And he's cool.
He's got a nice beard.
He doesn't have a slouchy body at all.
And the snack that comes out.
It's not a snack, but what is it?
ボー氏
Is it a small dish?
I don't know.
Isn't it a snack?
Maybe it's not.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know.
Ishikawa Sayuri is the owner of that exquisite store.
Isn't it impossible for Ishikawa Sayuri to sing live at that scale?
ボー氏
Of course.
But I guess it's possible.
Hiro Fujiwara
Because...
It doesn't actually happen.
If a Japanese director cast me, I'd say,
No, no, no.
ボー氏
What do you mean?
Hiro Fujiwara
I'd say, It's a luxury.
And he sings so well at that distance.
It's a luxury.
ボー氏
Of course.
Hiro Fujiwara
I have a lot of dreams in that sense.
If I could live a life like that, with a lady like Ishikawa Sayuri next to me,
and I could sing live like that,
I'd say, Is it possible?
I'd say, Is that kind of life possible?
ボー氏
Because it's a perfect day.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes.
It's perfect.
Really.
It's a dream to be able to live happily in that little world.
ボー氏
Well, that's the point of interpretation.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
ボー氏
It's about how to interpret it.
06:03
Hiro Fujiwara
Is it like an oitachi?
ボー氏
It's about how to interpret it.
It's about how to interpret it.
It's about how to interpret it.
It's about how to interpret it.
It's about how to interpret it.
It's about how to interpret it.
It's about how to interpret it.
It's about how to interpret it.
Hiro Fujiwara
I was wondering which one it was.
I was wondering which one it was.
The sky, the trees, the sky tree,
it's not like looking down.
It's like looking up.
It was a camera work.
I don't know if it's looking up in the sense of living brightly,
or I don't know if it's living while realizing that I'm down.
ボー氏
I didn't feel that much.
Which one is brighter?
Which one is brighter?
Hiro Fujiwara
Which one is brighter?
I'm enjoying it.
What I thought when you said that was that you had an idea like Sakamoto-kyu.
I was really curious about that.
ボー氏
It's painful, but let's look up and walk.
Let's look at the good points.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know if it's painful to do that.
I don't know if it's painful to do that.
ボー氏
I'm satisfied with my current life,
but I wonder if it's painful to change.
I don't care about my current situation.
This is completely a spoiler,
but the story of Tomokazu Miura,
and the fact that the building is gone,
I wonder if it matches.
The world is changing, and I'm going to leave it and change.
Hiro Fujiwara
But at the same rate,
you're raising young people,
09:00
Hiro Fujiwara
and you're raising trees yourself.
You take care of young people and raise them at home.
It's not pessimistic.
Even when things change,
it's like a dream when you look at it as a whole.
It's like you're enjoying your life.
ボー氏
I think so.
I don't know how to capture the last scene.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think it would have been better if I could hear the lyrics more.
ボー氏
There were lyrics?
Hiro Fujiwara
There were lyrics like New Days.
I felt like the lyrics were full of what was drawn in the movie.
I couldn't hear it exactly.
And there were a lot of books, right?
Do you know the book that the girl who came to see the first child read?
ボー氏
I don't know.
Hiro Fujiwara
She said she could understand the character in the book.
If I had known that book, I would have been able to understand it better.
The more I know about such tools,
the more I think the resolution will increase.
It's a folk song, isn't it?
It's a folk song, isn't it?
It's a folk song, isn't it?
She's a good person, she's educated, and she's smart enough to think for herself.
ボー氏
That's how she's described.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think it's amazing how much she can clean up to the toilet.
I think it's amazing how much she can clean up to the toilet.
ボー氏
I didn't know that.
What about the mirror?
Hiro Fujiwara
The mirror, too.
It's like she's using all the tools efficiently.
That's what she said.
What surprised me was that there was a homeless old man.
It was Min Tanaka.
ボー氏
Who is he?
Hiro Fujiwara
Min Tanaka is a very famous old man actor.
He's a very talented person who does acting, too.
He's famous.
ボー氏
I only know Ryu Chishu as an old man.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know.
12:00
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know either.
I thought he was dead.
But I was very satisfied with that feeling.
It was artistic.
I didn't understand the meaning of it.
It's very transparent, so I couldn't understand it.
ボー氏
Maybe people who know Min Tanaka might understand it with that movement.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think so, too.
I'm glad. I liked this movie.
It was very comfortable to watch.
ボー氏
I forgot the name of the movie, but I heard there was a special toilet in Tokyo.
Hiro Fujiwara
Toilets in Tokyo are so fashionable.
ボー氏
It's not a cultural property, but it's an object.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's like a spot in Tokyo.
That's one of my dreams.
It's not a toilet you imagine when you hear the word toilet cleaning.
I don't think it's such a miserable life to clean such a beautiful toilet.
There was such an expression in the movie.
It's like making a mother who lost her child who was playing in the park look at her child from a distance.
It's like my younger sister is doing that kind of work.
So I'm a little bit conscious of my job.
Was it Tokio Emoto, your junior?
He's amazing. He's a good character.
ボー氏
But he's doing that kind of music.
Hiro Fujiwara
He's really amazing.
Is he a serial killer or something?
You can tell he's really bad when he doesn't have a lot of lines.
ボー氏
Even his mouth.
It's amazing.
Hiro Fujiwara
He doesn't have a body, but his way of speaking is a bit like Kappa.
15:01
ボー氏
His way of speaking is like...
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know.
ボー氏
I think he's going to do that kind of role.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think he's going to do that kind of role.
He was in that movie, wasn't he?
ボー氏
First love.
Hiro Fujiwara
First love.
First love.
I see.
He's a child who remains in my memory.
ボー氏
The one who was dancing.
Hiro Fujiwara
The one who was dancing.
I forgot his name.
He has a strong impact.
ボー氏
His hairstyle is the same.
Hiro Fujiwara
I see. I don't know much about his hairstyle.
But I thought his face was very unique.
ボー氏
I don't know his name.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know his name.
How do you feel?
ボー氏
I was taking notes.
First of all, I liked the fact that he didn't make it fashionable, but he made it cool.
It's not twice as good, but it looks beautiful.
I thought foreigners would look like this when they go to Tokyo.
We are short, so we probably don't look like that when we go to Tokyo.
But when I saw Tokyo as a stage for the movie, I thought it would look like that when we went to San Francisco or New York.
It was so cool that I didn't know what to do with it.
The color and the cut were so cool that I could picture any aspect of it.
And the things in the movie weren't that great.
But the way they cut it.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's a familiar scene.
The toilet scene was special.
And the scene where he pulls the camera.
It's like a panoramic shot.
ボー氏
Even if it's just a shot of the road from a very far distance, it's very different.
I thought the angle and the ratio of what to pay attention to were different.
So I thought it was a great picture.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think the sensibility of the movie is good.
I think Japanese people have their own good points.
ボー氏
I think the movie made by Japanese people is more real.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think so, too.
ボー氏
I think it's more familiar to us.
So I thought it was a picture of Japan seen from a foreigner's point of view.
18:00
Hiro Fujiwara
Did you take it to make it look like that?
ボー氏
It's cool.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's amazing, but it's cool.
It's so natural that I don't know what I did on purpose.
It's not like I'm making something easy to understand.
ボー氏
I thought it was the color.
Hiro Fujiwara
The color is a little...
That's a big one.
It's kind of bluish.
That's right.
But it's also a level that makes me think it might actually be.
Including the feeling of electricity.
ボー氏
It's not unnatural at all.
I don't feel uncomfortable.
Hiro Fujiwara
No, no.
Everything is real.
ボー氏
The place is the same.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's like a normal life.
ボー氏
I don't feel like I'm peeking.
Hiro Fujiwara
I feel like I'm being taken as it is.
That's why...
It's not like...
What is it?
It's just a work of art that doesn't have any negative elements.
It's just a work of art that has a job and a home.
ボー氏
You're popular.
Hiro Fujiwara
I thought it was unfair.
I thought it was unfair to watch this movie.
There are so many points that I'm holding back.
Especially from my point of view, I'm drawing a cute old man.
I was surprised by a girl in the car.
I don't feel sorry for the actor at that time.
ボー氏
Is that so?
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know if it's cute.
That surprised feeling was a cute old man I rarely see in recent years.
And the cuteness of the two old men walking in the shadows.
It's so easy to understand.
ボー氏
I've been told this since I was a kid, but I don't think it's disgusting.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's right.
When I was watching it, I thought it was cute.
I think the role of Koji Yakusho came out around that time.
I thought he was a scary, dirty old man.
I thought the range of roles was amazing.
ボー氏
I've done a lot of things, so I don't know what kind of person Koji Yakusho is.
21:00
ボー氏
That's right.
I've been watching the program twice because I love the program so much.
Koji Yakusho used to play the role of a yakuza who was exiled.
Hiro Fujiwara
I was a little scared when I saw him.
ボー氏
I see.
Hiro Fujiwara
Sometimes I want to tell people around me that I shouldn't do that.
ボー氏
Sometimes I look like the same character.
But I think he was a quiet character.
Hiro Fujiwara
He didn't talk much.
He didn't talk much.
But I thought that was enough.
ボー氏
I think Sayuri Ishikawa was the one who talked the most.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's right.
That's how effective it is.
If that's the case, the number of words will increase.
I've been to the program for five years.
I go to the program every week on my days off.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You're good at everything.
I thought you were good.
I was very satisfied.
ボー氏
I think all the music in this movie is cool.
Hiro Fujiwara
It was cool. I understand.
ボー氏
The songs that are popular now are completely different.
I don't think it's strange for you to listen to it.
It's like a cassette.
It's like rock.
Hiro Fujiwara
There was rock and soul.
ボー氏
It's old.
It's not like it's being re-evaluated now.
But it was cool.
The song selection was great.
If I say that, I think the change in Sayuri Ishikawa I heard in that flow was cool.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's not a change.
It's not a change.
ボー氏
That singing style is not a change.
That's right.
I'm doing it on the guitar.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's a song to sing.
ボー氏
That's why it shouldn't look so cool.
If you listen to it normally.
Hiro Fujiwara
Well, yeah.
But that was a cool one.
ボー氏
I see.
Hiro Fujiwara
I used to watch Sayuri Ishikawa's mother a lot.
Sayuri Ishikawa sings a cool song.
ボー氏
I've never thought it was cool even when I saw it on NHK.
It's because the song is different.
Hiro Fujiwara
There's an arrangement.
ボー氏
That's right.
24:02
Hiro Fujiwara
I'm taking notes on a lot of things.
ボー氏
The last one, the face-up long turn.
Hiro Fujiwara
It was a performance that I could take both of them.
ボー氏
You often talk about face-up long turns, don't you?
That's why...
For you...
Did you call me by your name?
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes.
ボー氏
That was the last face-up.
That was...
How can I say this?
Hiro Fujiwara
There wasn't that much of a range.
ボー氏
It was interesting as an act, but there wasn't that much of an interpretation.
I could tell if the song was good or sad.
I could read both of them at the same time.
Hiro Fujiwara
Isn't that all of your life?
It's a long story.
ボー氏
I think it's all packed.
I think I was simply moved by the light in the morning.
Hiro Fujiwara
I agree.
I felt like all the joys and sorrows were reflected in my life.
It was a great face-up.
I'm going to get an award for that.
ボー氏
That's tough.
I think that scene alone was tough.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think so, too.
It's like...
It's not like I'm acting.
Yeah.
ボー氏
I don't think it's on purpose.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't feel it at all.
ボー氏
I don't think it's on purpose.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't think it's a good idea to be a quiet person.
ボー氏
I think it's okay.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't think I can speak.
I can speak a little more.
I'm not a quiet person.
I think there are people who are more quiet.
I liked that scene.
ボー氏
I liked the conversation between the camera and the shop staff.
Hiro Fujiwara
I didn't speak much.
You do that every week.
ボー氏
That's a lot of money.
Yeah.
Hiro Fujiwara
I gave them thousands of yen.
That's right.
ボー氏
That's a lot of money.
Every week.
And if I don't do a good job, I'll break it right away.
27:04
ボー氏
That's a lot of money.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yeah, it's a lot of money.
ボー氏
It's a place to live.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's a luxury.
I don't think it's a dream.
ボー氏
It's completely different from Kenroichi.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yeah, I think it's different.
ボー氏
It's different from Kenroichi, which depicts the pain of reality.
Hiro Fujiwara
The pain is the main thing.
ボー氏
It's a bit of a fantasy.
Hiro Fujiwara
It was quite a fantasy.
ボー氏
The Tokyo Pod said that there are people who know Perfect Days.
No, no, that's...
It's just like that.
That's right.
I couldn't do that.
That's right.
I've been living a routine life on my own.
I go to the bath at about 3 o'clock in the afternoon.
I hang out a lot at night.
I go home, read a book, and go to bed.
But you're the perfect middle-aged man.
That's true.
Hiro Fujiwara
You're the best.
That's true.
If you go that far.
I don't even have to wake up every day.
I wake up to the sound of the dead leaves from the shrine outside.
ボー氏
If you don't keep doing that, your life will collapse.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's right.
You probably leave the windows open all the time.
ボー氏
I guess so in the summer.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think I'll leave them open in the winter.
ボー氏
Because it's good for plants.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's good for the wind.
I left the windows open when it was raining.
ボー氏
Did you leave the windows open?
Hiro Fujiwara
The sound of the rain was also used as an impression.
Every time I had a dream, like, I'm sleeping now.
Like a dream scene.
This is also a great way to create a scene that feels like a foreign country.
ボー氏
I guess so.
Hiro Fujiwara
Even if there was a dream scene made by a Japanese director, I don't think it would be like that.
ボー氏
I think it would be better if the actual person who made the dream scene made the dream scene.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think it would be better if the actual person who made the dream scene made the dream scene.
There were a lot of times when I didn't know what I was looking at.
I didn't know what kind of pattern it was.
ボー氏
Well, there was a video that came out just before that.
Hiro Fujiwara
There was, but it was just a board-like feeling.
There were a lot of lines of light.
I think it's a dream.
30:00
Hiro Fujiwara
On the contrary, it doesn't feel vivid.
ボー氏
It's just a picture.
It's just a picture.
Hiro Fujiwara
You like that kind of thing, don't you?
I think so.
No, you do.
What do you mean?
I was wondering if you wanted to live like that.
I don't want to live like that.
I can easily imagine myself living like that.
I think so.
ボー氏
Rather, it's close to that now.
That's not true.
I think it's close to that now.
When I'm working on my own,
Hiro Fujiwara
I feel more pain.
ボー氏
I can't be so peaceful.
I'm not satisfied with everything.
I can't get a sense of fulfillment.
I think it's close to that now.
Hiro Fujiwara
That state?
ボー氏
I think it's close to that now.
There are times when it's hard,
but I can somehow enjoy my days.
Hiro Fujiwara
I feel that way, too.
But compared to that, life is pretty good.
If you're able to live luxuriously,
you'll feel happy.
That's how I see it.
ボー氏
You mean you're not satisfied without being luxurious?
Hiro Fujiwara
That's right.
Generally speaking,
people who are satisfied with luxury
and people who are satisfied with something that doesn't look luxurious are quite different.
I'm not at that level at all.
I just feel like I'm looking at my daily satisfaction as I live.
I always smile just because the weather is nice.
ボー氏
Smiling is very characteristic.
I've been smiling all the time.
Sometimes I cry.
I don't know why I cry.
I didn't know where I was crying.
I felt like I hadn't seen my sister in a long time.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's a big deal.
ボー氏
I can't read that clearly.
Isn't that amazing?
Hiro Fujiwara
I thought it was amazing that you kept it to a minimum with just the information you needed.
33:03
ボー氏
I didn't know why I was crying.
Hiro Fujiwara
But you were able to tell what each other was thinking.
You were able to tell where the hidden truth was.
You made me feel like there was nothing I could do.
ボー氏
I think it was a very short time.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think so, too.
The amount of lines was also very small.
It's amazing that you can read it.
ボー氏
It's impossible without acting skills.
That's true.
Hiro Fujiwara
But I couldn't tell what you were crying about.
After the breakup?
ボー氏
What were you crying about?
Hiro Fujiwara
Oh, really?
Even though my father is in the facility and I don't know what's going on with him,
there's a level of certainty that I won't be able to see him again.
ボー氏
That's not for your sister.
You hugged your sister at the end.
Hiro Fujiwara
Of course.
I can't put it all together as a family.
ボー氏
I have feelings, but I have to keep a distance.
Hiro Fujiwara
Is that still with you?
I don't think so.
I told you that the world is different on the way.
ボー氏
I think you realize that it's hard to be different from someone you don't hate.
I think so, too.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think she's more like a sister than a parent.
ボー氏
Is that so?
Hiro Fujiwara
If you have so much certainty about your parents, do you think they'll stay that long?
I think of them as a family.
ボー氏
You mean as a whole?
Hiro Fujiwara
You don't know each other.
I think of them as a group.
I think of them as a family.
I don't think of them as a family or a brother.
That's what I thought.
I see.
I see.
Is the cassette tape that came out in the film actually sold at that price?
ボー氏
I think so.
Hiro Fujiwara
Is it sold that much now?
ボー氏
I think so.
36:02
Hiro Fujiwara
That's amazing.
ボー氏
The cassette tape was originally for recording.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't think it's sold that much.
Is there actually a shop like that?
ボー氏
I think so.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know if it's the name, but I think it's the location.
That girl in that scene was really bad.
ボー氏
I didn't think she was that bad.
Hiro Fujiwara
She was really bad.
I didn't think there was a shop like that.
ボー氏
I didn't think there was a shop like that.
Hiro Fujiwara
The other customers didn't say anything.
ボー氏
There was a moment when I raised my head about her.
Hiro Fujiwara
There was a scene where she was like a good girl who could get along with anyone.
After that, I thought she was going to quit irresponsibly and end it.
I didn't follow her.
ボー氏
I thought that was a little realistic.
Hiro Fujiwara
But in the end, that's what it is.
Including that, that's what it is.
ボー氏
The character was very realistic.
What was I going to say?
I recently posted that Martin bought a record.
I posted it on Instagram.
I have a picture of the record I'm writing now.
I forgot if it was a note or Instagram.
It's a record from 10 or 20 years ago.
It's not a record from the 70s or 80s.
It's a record from a little while ago.
It's a record from a time when I didn't make that much.
If I buy it now, I'll probably spend about 20,000 yen.
I sent a message.
And Martin said,
If you're in trouble with Perfect Days, you might sell it.
Did you sell it in that scene?
Hiro Fujiwara
You're selling it, aren't you?
ボー氏
You're selling it, aren't you?
Hiro Fujiwara
You turned it into a gas station, didn't you?
ボー氏
Was it a gas station?
Hiro Fujiwara
The car stopped.
When I left the store and went home alone,
The car stopped on the bridge.
I was like, what should I do?
I gave him the money earlier.
39:00
Hiro Fujiwara
I didn't have any money on me.
I sold the cassette and turned it into a gas station.
I put the car in.
ボー氏
I didn't look at the gas station.
I didn't have a clear picture of what I sold.
I saw the cassette and went back.
Hiro Fujiwara
You can sell it.
I had no choice but to sell it.
I felt sorry for him.
ボー氏
But you have a lot of them.
I have a cassette at home.
I have a bookshelf, but it's about that size.
Hiro Fujiwara
But the bookshelf is more of a pile than a family.
I think there are a lot of people who admire that kind of life.
ボー氏
Actually, I think it's hard.
Hiro Fujiwara
Actually, it's definitely hard.
I don't have a bath.
I don't have a washing machine, so I go to Coin Land.
Isn't it pretty far away?
ボー氏
By bicycle?
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes.
ボー氏
I don't know if it's far away.
Hiro Fujiwara
It looked far away.
Is it far away?
As far as I can walk to Kyoto,
It was so far away that I thought,
If I don't ride a bicycle, I won't go to Coin Land.
I see.
ボー氏
I don't think there are many people who walk to Coin Land.
Hiro Fujiwara
When I live in Kyoto, I don't have a bath.
There are people like that.
Yes, there are.
So I'm going to Coin Land now.
You can see it in the scene.
ボー氏
I was surprised that it was so far away by bicycle.
Well, there are people who ride bicycles even if they are close.
Hiro Fujiwara
I've been there quite a bit.
As a scene.
I was surprised that it was so far away.
ボー氏
There are a lot of people who go to Coin Land.
Because there are many students.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes, because it's a student town.
It's pretty far away.
ボー氏
That's the kind of trouble.
I know that kind of trouble.
Hiro Fujiwara
I thought it was tough.
ボー氏
It's not a big deal.
It's about money.
And health.
Hiro Fujiwara
I'm sure you're aware of your health.
ボー氏
When something happens.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't eat proper food.
That's about it.
ボー氏
It's a snack.
I only drink canned coffee in the morning.
I only eat a sandwich for lunch.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know what I'm eating at night.
I wonder what you're eating other than a snack.
ボー氏
Because it's not in the scene.
I didn't see you enjoying your meal.
I didn't.
I didn't drink a lot, but I only drank a cup.
Hiro Fujiwara
No, I had a refill.
Oh, I see.
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Hiro Fujiwara
I think it's a life that you can't continue when you're older than that.
That's what I'm worried about.
ボー氏
I don't think it's health.
Hiro Fujiwara
But there are a lot of people like that.
ボー氏
I think there are a lot of people like that.
Actually, there are a lot of tough things.
As a movie.
I'm trying to make it look perfect.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's a little bit of a dream of the younger generation.
A little bit of a dream of the younger generation?
It's the kind of thing that makes you want to live that life forever.
It's a generation that doesn't really look at the worries when they're still healthy and can't move.
ボー氏
In that sense.
Hiro Fujiwara
In that sense.
ボー氏
I think the actual age will see a little more real pain.
Hiro Fujiwara
I can tell right away that I'm doing what I can because I'm healthy.
In the middle of the movie, there's a guy who ran away from his wife.
I don't know what it is, but he's going out for a drink without thinking about it.
ボー氏
Mr. Nishikawa?
Hiro Fujiwara
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He said, there's no one as annoying as him, so it's the best.
It's a dream.
That's what everyone wants to do.
ボー氏
A desire.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yeah, a desire.
When I see people who think it would be happier if he didn't exist, I can't actually do that.
I'm the kind of guy who says, yeah, yeah.
ボー氏
I don't know if that's a good thing or not.
I think it's only half and half.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's similar.
ボー氏
It's similar in the world.
I'm sure there are about half of people who think it's lonely.
Loneliness is loneliness.
I go to the store, but I don't talk to people.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's true.
Loneliness is loneliness.
I'm basically alone at work.
That's amazing.
I'm alone, but I'm satisfied with the people I meet and the nature.
Isn't that amazing?
It's pretty idealistic, but I think it's good because it's a hobby or a sense of that kind of person.
ボー氏
I think it's a great example of how to live for someone who wants to be enlightened.
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ボー氏
After all, it's more desire.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's right.
That's a dream, too.
I think that's the best way to live happily.
Really.
Isn't it happiness to think that life is wonderful just because of that?
Everyone has desires.
ボー氏
I don't feel satisfied with my life, but I have an image of that life.
I don't know if it's good or bad, but it's normal.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know.
ボー氏
I don't feel happy about it.
If it were me.
Hiro Fujiwara
Is that what happens when you live with a small energy?
ボー氏
I don't feel like I want to do it now.
As a feeling.
Hiro Fujiwara
As a feeling.
I think the peace of mind is the same now.
ボー氏
I don't have a sense of improvement.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's right.
ボー氏
I don't have a desire to get into the circle of people.
That's right.
I don't feel positive about festivals and events.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't.
In that sense.
ボー氏
It's close.
It's close to not wanting it.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's right.
ボー氏
I don't know much about music.
I just read a book and listen to music.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's close.
Take a picture.
ボー氏
It's pretty close.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's pretty close to the old man in the park in Tokyo Port.
It's pretty close if you do it alone.
ボー氏
I don't write a diary.
I don't write a podcast.
I don't write a diary.
I think it's similar.
Hiro Fujiwara
You live on the Internet, don't you?
Yes.
You were isolated from Perfect Days.
ボー氏
You were using a pattern.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's generational.
You didn't know anything.
If you were a little older, you might have been like that.
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ボー氏
I don't know because I know.
If I was born in that generation, I might have been like that.
Hiro Fujiwara
You might have been like that.
I think it's close.
I don't know what I'm doing.
ボー氏
You don't smile that much when you're alone.
I don't know if I'm so happy about it.
Hiro Fujiwara
I'm just doing it somehow.
That's right.
It was fashionable overall.
ボー氏
It's not fashionable.
It's strange.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't know if it's that kind of thing.
I thought it would be more painful.
That's right.
That's the direction of Kenroji.
You said it was a loop.
It was just a story that repeated every day.
I was told that I was a man who cleaned the toilet.
I thought it was a story of a person who was full.
But it was the opposite.
ボー氏
I'm satisfied.
Hiro Fujiwara
It was a story of a person who was satisfied.
ボー氏
I was told that I was a man who had a perfect day.
Hiro Fujiwara
I think it was Masaya Hirayama.
It was the opposite.
ボー氏
I think it was Masaya Hirayama.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't watch the news.
ボー氏
That's right.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't watch TV and I don't read newspapers.
I live in a small world.
ボー氏
So I think about Shin-niisan the most.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't look it up.
I don't look it up.
It's okay.
The only thing I watched was the one on TV and the baseball game at the bar.
I watched the outside world.
ボー氏
Did you smoke?
Hiro Fujiwara
I think I smoked.
I couldn't see the screen clearly.
ボー氏
I don't smoke.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't smoke.
ボー氏
I don't smoke for a moment.
Hiro Fujiwara
I see.
I only play sports.
ボー氏
Your grandfather was good.
Hiro Fujiwara
Which one?
ボー氏
All of them.
Wasn't he the same person?
Two of them.
He was a different person when he was alone.
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ボー氏
He looked up.
Hiro Fujiwara
Your grandfather was there, too.
ボー氏
He chased you with his eyes when you were alone.
They were two people.
Hiro Fujiwara
They were two people.
That's good.
All of them were good.
The way he used the mop was good, too.
ボー氏
He didn't say anything.
Hiro Fujiwara
There was a lot of reality for people who used the bathroom.
I thought there were a lot of young salarymen who were drunk in the park in the early morning.
ボー氏
It was normal over there.
It was more realistic.
Hiro Fujiwara
It was more realistic.
People who use the bathroom.
Yes.
It's like a secret letter in it.
It's a dream.
It's just a dream.
It's a small dream.
I thought it was a dream.
You should take it home with you.
It's definitely a dream of a woman.
When I look at the traces, it's a dream.
It was a women's bathroom, wasn't it?
ボー氏
I think so.
Did you think it was too popular?
Hiro Fujiwara
I thought it was convenient.
Everything is convenient.
It's more convenient than Ishikawa.
ボー氏
I thought so.
Hiro Fujiwara
I thought it was good.
I didn't think it was such a good place.
That's right.
ボー氏
I've never seen that scene.
Hiro Fujiwara
It's a popular movie.
It was good.
It was a movie that I was more satisfied than I thought.
The location was good.
The location was good.
ボー氏
It's a common place.
Hiro Fujiwara
That's right.
The park, the shrine, and the place full of trees were all my favorite.
ボー氏
I don't know if it's Sumida, but it's under the bridge.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes.
It was good.
ボー氏
It's been an hour.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes, it's been an hour.
I digested the memo.
ボー氏
I talked for an hour without knowing how good the sound quality was.
But it's not that far away.
Hiro Fujiwara
I don't think it's terrible.
ボー氏
In terms of distance.
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes.
So today was a fun day off.
Thank you.
Today was a perfect day off.
ボー氏
I got a headache from watching it.
Hiro Fujiwara
Why?
ボー氏
I don't know. It still hurts a little.
Hiro Fujiwara
Why does it hurt?
ボー氏
Did I catch a cold?
Hiro Fujiwara
Yes.
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ボー氏
Or was it because I was watching it in a dark place?
Hiro Fujiwara
That's right.
You may be tired.
But it was still perfect.
It was a good day off.
Yes.
Let's wrap this up.
Yes.
