自己紹介と性格表現のゲーム
Hey Len. Hey Asami. All right, so if I publish this in the right order, this would be coming
right after the episode where we thank everyone for listening to our little humble podcast
so many times, like 70,000 plus times to be exact. So very, very many times, yes.
And we figured this might be a good place to reintroduce ourselves, you know, because we don't
do the sort of explicit tagline thing every episode, which, you know, I don't know. We're
still thinking, should we do it? Should we not? Let us know. But the tagline is a separate thinking
thing. Yes, that's a separate thinking. But I think once in a while it doesn't hurt to
get reminded who you are listening to, because we don't have a whole lot of social media stuff
going on. I think it's very easy to forget that we actually exist. That's a good point. So
we figured it would be good to introduce each other and also to do this in a sort of
game-fied way of the typical pick three words to describe the other person.
This was Len's idea, not mine, just letting you know.
Oh, I appreciate the credit, except I'll take either the credit for it going well
or the blame for it going poorly. So we'll see.
This could go either way, because I genuinely don't know what you picked for my three words.
I told everything is nice. And any of the mean ones came as word four or five. So that's,
you know, like, okay. This is where I need the bell, by the way. This is the bell.
This is the sarcasm bell. Yeah. Yeah. But do you want to go first?
Sure. You want me to go first? Yeah, I guess my idea, I have to sacrifice myself first here.
Yeah, yeah. All right. So what three words did you pick for me, Asami?
Three words just off the top of my head. The length of time is because I'm sick still.
Well, just disclaimer, maybe. We each spent about 30 seconds to come up with the three words.
So, you know, it's not like we thought long and hard.
No, no. It wasn't like I went away for like a day and, you know, wrote down all my thoughts
and reflections on every podcast we've done and all friend things that we've done together.
I, I took it as a as a collective in this space, what hit me as like first sets of words.
Yes. Yes. All right. Fire away.
All right. So it was word one, confident. Word two, grounded. And word three,
and this is where even in my note, I didn't decide between one or two of them.
So I'm going to decide now. And we're gonna say, we're gonna say proactive.
Okay, those sound like great. Like, I told you good sets of words.
I don't know why you were worried. I mean, like, you know, like,
I'm awesome.
Yeah, I wasn't I wasn't like, let us find, you know, three words to describe each other.
And then let us absolutely ream each other, you know, like, you know, really tear into each other.
Yeah. If you chose to go that way, I respect that. That's fine. I didn't specify. So like,
if you were just like, I just picked all the things that really bothered me about
fine.
Although if I if I may be kind of nitpicky.
Yeah, shoot.
Isn't proactive kind of like a consequence of being confident?
No, I would argue no.
Okay.
Yeah, I would I would argue that you can be confident in what you're doing. But it doesn't
mean that you go out of your way to do other things, right? That you're like,
I see.
I think there's a difference in that space. Right. And so I imagine this is
primed by us sort of, you know, being in the podcast space, right? And talking about changes
going on and stuff, right? That are, there's, you know, one variant in terms of this is the
stuff I am confident in doing and have a, you know, direction and thinking process on and
then this is the active decision to go out of my way to do these things, right? To like,
create a new thing to try this new thing to, you know, so proactive was one word. And that
was where my brain also shut off and was like, you can't speak English. But that was close
enough for for my I think, intention. So yeah, yeah.
No, I appreciate that. Because sort of I, as sort of like a theme of the principle you
want to live by, right? One of this for me is to kind of let the works speak for you,
let your actions speak for you, kind of thing. So I don't want to be, I don't want to be
kuchidake no person, like, you know, I don't know, it's yuugenjikko is like, kind of like the words
that you would go with this kind of like four letter yojijukugo, right? But that's a little
bit different, because I don't necessarily feel like I need to say it before I do it.
I just want, at least for the past few years, I've been trying to spend more energy doing stuff
性格の考察
than saying stuff. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So so I'm very happy that you picked up on this proactiveness as one of my qualities.
Sometimes this sort of just generally being around another person
pieces pop up, right? That's, I would say it was there, right? You apparently getting something
out right of doing that proactive stepping of doing versus maybe just thinking about
and those are hard, right? You don't always have to be doing, you know, one or the other,
right? But it's, you had an intention on that. And apparently, I picked up on something,
right? And the 30 second reflection. Yeah.
And, and this might also just be sort of my thought process when I'm like,
choosing between two things, or three things, something like that.
At some point, I because I do kind of like, let myself be in that uncomfortable space.
Like, I don't try to, at least I try not to pretend like I'm happy when I'm not or like,
pretend like I know what's going on when I have absolutely no clue.
But at the end of that sort of like thought process, I always come to the conclusion of like,
all right, I think you thought enough about it.
Because I have the tendency to think, think and overthink.
Okay, like, at some point, I need to call it quits. I'd be like,
all right, you did enough thinking Asami, time to do something. Because,
yeah, you know, I can think all I want. It only happens in my brain.
And at some point, you have to, what I would like to call it as collapsing my wave functions,
you need to observe and let things happen, basically. And then think about what to do next.
But there's only so much like simulation you can do in your head. And that is accurate enough,
right? So boy, can I use the reminder of that every once in a while?
Um, yeah, that's, that's why we're friends. We love overthinking.
Yeah, this is the thing, right? And then it's like, everybody overthink now. And we're like,
okay, well, but but you're that essence of bringing in a voice that says, we're done here,
whether whether it's like, you know, we're done, because I've noted that as sufficient thinking,
or it's just we're done. Because more of this is not helping, right? Or I can't be sure that it's
going to, you know, work itself out in some way, right? I need to act so that I can then make a
decision on the next thing. And there's certainly no perfect point for that. But doing so helps you
act right to do something at least. Yeah, yeah. So that's fun. But thinking speaking of overthinking,
I think that segues somewhat nicely into the three words that I thought about you.
Oh, okay. All right. overthought in the 30 seconds of preparation, or you go ahead and lead yourself
in for this. Okay, because the three words I picked in no particular order, right? Like,
not one is not more important than the other. That's fine. But
it is inquisitive, caring, and climbs.
Not a characteristic, just as like a feature.
It's just like a verb.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does that does that itself implicitly describe me that like, at some
points, I'll just completely deviate from like the rule set? Just like whatever.
I think it can hold on multiple meanings. The last one, the climb,
climbs. All right. But like, just to make an explicit connection about overthinking,
and my first word inquisitive, I think you're a very like curious person. And I think you
inquire a lot, you know, for the outside world as well as within yourself. And I know that some
people find the word inquisitive as like a bit negative connotation, like nosy, maybe.
But okay. But I mean, it in a sense of like, curious, like, but I think more intense than
just curious.
Right? You you used inquisitive as like the scale up from from curious, right? Okay,
no, I appreciate that clarification. I did receive it as a curiosity feeling.
So I think that's that's what you are. I think you have lots of questions about a lot of things
in the world in a fun way.
So I hope they're fun. I think sometimes it can be a little much frustrating.
Much for some people, right? Especially that inquisitiveness also means that I am
sometimes resistant to particular more information changing things unless,
unless it reaches the same like depth of understanding as the previous thing.
Right? That's that's certainly a challenge. But yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but I appreciate that. I'm glad to know that my question if it's there,
I'd like to try and make that, you know, apply to many things sort of a looseness on recognizing.
Yeah. And like the other words that I didn't list on here, like open mindedness and things
性格の表現と友情の重要性
like that. I kind of just included that in inquisitive because it's, yeah, it's like
you're you're open minded as a result of you being curious and inquisitive.
So I think I think that's just like all included. And I put caring, I think much in a way that you
probably put grounding. Okay. All right. My thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We didn't talk about
the cause. Yes. Yeah. Because, because I think a lot of the things you do for your friends
are coming from a place of care. You're the kind of friend who's like not just there for the good
time, but also like when it's really hard and or when it's like not so fun to be my friend,
you would also be around. So that's caring for you. And climbs. That's just a verb. I know I cheated.
But for me, climbing is like it. It describes a special kind of people. All right.
Oh, all right. All right. All right. Continue. It's a it's a kind of person who voluntarily
puts themselves in a hard situation. And finds joy in overcoming that. And you don't have to
climb. But you do. That's, that's true. That's, that's true. I don't have to do a lot of things.
But yeah, this, I'm getting the sense of what that meant. At the end, you were like, how do I capture
this particular feeling? Like of what Len does or isn't and climbing or climber? Like the the act
of choosing to do it is what you were trying to capture there. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yes. Yes.
I understand. No one who just want to have fun. That's climbing. You know, I think same goes for
like marathon runners and things like that. Like no one does it. Yeah. Because it's fun. If they
say it's because it's fun. They're lying. I like that's a solid certainty. Sometimes to your
detriment. I think you like persevering difficult situations. And overcoming that. Yeah, I think
a lot of the things you do kind of the actions that you take
derives from this, like, you know, that there's like something joyous at the end of this,
and then you kind of go through hard times. You don't mind going through the hard times for that.
Wow, I do. I do feel like you're as much as it was a small cheat to use the words the way you've
described it. It resonates with me in the same way that perhaps proactive resonated with you
where I'm like, ah, yes, the thing that like I have tried to dip into where I acknowledge that
some of the you know, the beauty and the achievement and the, the satisfaction or
fulfillment comes with a lot of the sort of challenges, right? Like you, you don't separate
the two you can, but I've made the decision to try and invest myself into spaces that feel like
they're going to be fulfilling. Even if there is like challenge and hurdles and things to
either overcome or go around or whatnot. So yeah, I feel like that that somehow captured
at least an essence of a struggle that I have been having around, you know, just
the the lifespan of things and trying to really invest in the murkiness of life and enjoy it
nonetheless. Yeah, yeah. Because I think when people achieve things, I think there are sort of two
modes of going about doing it. Okay, roughly speaking. One of them is that you set your mind
so hard at the end goal, and you kind of backwards calculate everything you need to do
in order to get there. Some people are amazing at it. And, but I think yours is more like the end
goal can be a little bit more vague. But you like, don't shy away from the all the steps that has to
come in between. You sort of try to enjoy the process, I think. That's what I hope to put off.
It's hard. But yeah, that's, that's a hope. So I'm very appreciative.
Sometimes, right? Like this can this can backfire you in like putting yourself into like a really
difficult situations where people Google like, why then? Yeah, why do you do that?
Yeah, no, that's I mean, I've even asked myself that of, you know, past experience. Like, it's,
sometimes it's a real question. Even even in the cases where I'm, I'm still like certain,
yes, that's the direction I wanted to take, you know, it, it doesn't have the same
certainty feeling as just approaching something with a clear end goal vision, and like,
sort of a direction that says none of these other things can deviate, right? Like something that
feels clear and directed versus messy and like moving, but less clear. Yeah,
and I think you you tend to embrace the messiness of it all. Or at least you seem like you're doing
it to me. I'm definitely doing something like it. I mean, I can probably be harsh on myself.
But I appreciate that the the echo of what's happening is coming across that way. That is
性格と言葉
that I really, really appreciate. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, that didn't turn out so bad.
That means I don't have to take blame for it. I can take I can take credit for for coming up with
this idea. Yeah, that was a good idea. Thanks. I'm patting myself on the back for the amount of time
that we spent on thinking about. Yeah, right. So yeah, hopefully you have a listeners, you have
some idea of what kind of people we are. Yeah. Yeah. Also, just like, as a fact, we just went
to the same grad school. And that's how we know each other. Sure. Yeah. On the butter end of the
butter and on a more practical end of it. That's how. Yeah. And yeah, we went to the same grad
school. friends there. We just, you know, have traveled the world in different ways. You know,
and now still ended up in the same country. And somehow we're still in the same country,
which is which is a wild thing to consider seeing as all the options that exist out there. So
yeah, it's pretty, pretty crazy. But yeah, so welcome. If this is your that's us. Yeah. So
this is us. This is what we're doing here. The previous episode was about, you know,
thanking everybody for the last one, like you said, is on me for all the listens. And
hopefully you stick around for for more, whatever comes up next. Yeah. So yeah. And if you want us
to talk about particular things, our authority inbox is always open. And honestly, I just want
to take a minute on that. Because yeah, I'm like YouTube or Instagram or Tick Tock or other
platforms. Podcast doesn't really have a two way communication method. At least not built in a
platform itself. I know Spotify has some common functions, but how many people are actually
commenting on or know about the common functions? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. So the surest way to get
your voice heard so that we talk about the stuff that you're more interested in, perhaps is to
write to us on authority form. Just in general, like even if you don't have anything like concrete
ideas to say, just saying like, hey, I like your episodes is like a huge boost of egos for us.
So we get to go. Oh, yeah. You know, feel a little bit. Yeah. Because honestly, like if you don't
look back at these numbers like this, I try not to spend too much time and brain space on like
individual little numbers that analytics will pop up here and there. Yes. Because I could be obsessed
about it, too, but I just choose not to. And I'm way more interested in sort of genuine response
from people. So when we do occasionally hear from listeners or mostly from other podcasters, what
they thought about a particular episode and stuff in a form of retweet on tweets and stuff, it's kind
of like a nice reminder that like, oh, people actually do listen, you know? Right. Yeah. It's
like, oh, look, we're not just speaking into the void. We are we are speaking to people. We often
feel like. Yeah. I mean, any it's a wild life. This is probably a separate thing to talk about.
But like to be doing something, creating something and then just kind of letting it go out there
without clear or consistent feedback in just about any form is really odd, right? It feels
if you're too focused on it, it feels empty, like you're not getting something you can iterate on or
build off of. You're just kind of entirely doing whatever you want to do. But yeah, so that's why
we the inbox, please, you know, say hello, send us a message. If you we've gotten is just a hello,
like you said, just just say hello. Even if you send us an emoji, we will spend a 15 minute episode
trying to decode what you said. Oh my gosh. Yes. Yes. Send us an ASCII art for anybody that knows
what that is. Yeah, that's that's what I want to see. And then we can decode all of the hidden
meanings underneath the emojis or the ASCII. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Why do they send a blushing face?
You know, that sort of question. I don't know. It's just the weirdest one. The first one that
popped up that wasn't like a clear. Oh, it's a smiling face. You know, it's like that one. Yeah.
All right. Okay. All right. With that, goodbye. See you next time.
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