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So we talked about how to address, well this is in like university setting especially,
like how to address professors, advisor, etc. What's like the cultural norm, etc. But that
reminded me of this funny sort of questions. How do you sign yourself off as, like,
ブラバレン. What's your last closing line? Yes, yes. I will tell you what I use now,
and it is just best, len. Okay, same as me. It's best, asami. Yeah, I have some suspicions as to
I think why this might have happened to some of us coming in. But like, how did you arrive? Like,
did you have a different iteration of this? Yeah, I know that I had different iterations of this.
I think, you know what, I think my earliest push that sort of got me to shorten my sign off was,
well, was when I used to fly airplanes is when that was. Okay. Which was from like one of the
the older flight instructors whose attitude I just, I just really liked. It was like laid back,
but pretty straightforward. And yeah, you know, it is like it is. Yeah. And his emails ended with
the other sort of favorite, I think, which is just cheers. Like, and so cheers was when I was
like, cheers feels like a little bit much from from me. I didn't really want to do that.
Cheers feel like I would do it for friends only. Yeah, yeah. He went, I think he was just like,
whatever at that point. So yeah, I would agree. Friends, I think would make more sense there.
But so I went with best, and I'm actually struggling to remember the full sign off,
because best is not a full sign off. Best is half of a full sign off. The full sign off is best
regards. Right? Yes. Now, I want to hear your story. First, I think, because I want to say
something about how there are two halves there. But go ahead and maybe continue. So I use best,
Len, and you use essentially the same thing, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So when I was starting
to write emails to first to teachers, I think, in high school, I realized that people put various
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different things at the end of their emails. And it ranged from cheers to like, sincerely,
to all the range of politeness, causualness. And yeah, I also didn't know what's like the most
unoffensive way or like, like the most neutral ones. Sure. And I think in high school to undergrad,
I went with regards. Okay, this is the other bit of my story where people choose either one or the
other half of best regards. Yeah. Hear me out on my reasoning. I'm ready. I was like, if my default
was regards. If I wanted to be extra polite, I can do best regards. I can have an up in my
politeness. Okay. Yes. Yes. But at that time, it sounded like not a bad strategy. No. Brilliant.
You were thinking ahead. Until I don't know if I'm ruining your story. But until somebody told me
that like, you sound really cold when you say regards. And I was like, huh, I didn't realize
I didn't think that people are interpreting this much into how the email sign off or like the
letter sign off works. And I was like, What do you use? And she was like, I just go for best.
Okay, I'll go for best. I What do I know? You know? Yeah. And ever since then, I went with best.
This does not in any way ruin the bit that I was going to add you actually
you've added a great part to it, which is the the obvious bit, of course, people will actually
choose one half of best regards. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how it happened. I don't know why it
happened. But that happens. And, and you can choose either. And I think for the same reason
you had just described for why you pick kind of regards, you have regards, it's a bit formal,
and you can kind of make it even, you know, nicer or even more polite by adding best, right?
I think the friends who I know of did this maybe a similar reasoning slash,
that was what they picked as well at one point. But now what we get to say,
because I find it interesting that this other person saw regards and was like, it sounds cold.
Uh huh. Now, the question would be, why does it sound cold? And I think the first part of that
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answer is that it sounds more formal. Because I think the formality there doesn't come with the
same sincerity that sincerely comes with. Sincerely, sincerely does not sound sincere at
all. So but you see, actually, how there's a completely different response to this,
if I get sincerely, it does sound sincere. Oh, so see, see that now there's at least one example
to get rid of the all right sort of piece. Because I also think maybe she pointed it out
because there was a mismatch between my body text and how I signed off my email. Okay.
Yes, I think absolutely. That probably was one of the things because if somebody notices like a
sign off, I feel like it has to contrast with something right? Otherwise, it's just a goodbye
name. And like you move on, right? Like nobody sees it any further. I could definitely see somebody
recognizing it more. If the body text is like, Hey, how's it going? Was your weekend pretty good?
Yeah, I had a nice one as well. Regards Asami would be would be cold sounding as like a
juxtaposition a contrast to the body and the signature. Yeah, yes. But just yeah, okay,
it's fine. It's fine. Right. But yeah, please, please add in. No, no. Can I ask you another
question, though? Oh, sure. Yeah. So what's like some of the funnier ones that you've encountered
in your life? Oh, man, I like that question. But I wish I had more time to think about them.
Okay, well, I can I can go. Because I have a few. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to like,
kind of list the common ones, what sincerely, sincerely yours, kindly regards, best regards.
And in this variation of regards, like something plus regards, there's warm regards to Oh, yeah,
warm regards. Yeah, I do. Okay. And I, I have a professor who always sign off as warmly.
Blah, blah. And I'm like, I don't know why I'm like, this is too intimate.
It really Oh, man. You're like, I feel like I'm being like, I feel like I'm being hugged by you
in like a way that I didn't really know. He's the sweetest, most professional person. Like
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it's just his personal choice. He doesn't warmly or warm wishes. So I think he just likes warm.
You're absolutely right. I think he's just in love with the warm.
And maybe he uses different sign off for different people. And I happen to be in this like the
me and among other collaborators who collaborate regularly. Maybe we are the warm category of
people, right? But like, because he's the only person who use a warm, warmly or warm regards,
warm wishes. Yeah. I'm just like weirded out every time he does that. And also another one.
All the very best is like a kind of like a mix of being casual, but also keeping it with the best
variation. And it only comes from one particular person. And I've never seen anyone else use it.
And for him, it matches his personality. So I think I'm okay with all the very best from him.
My PhD advisor had several different ways. I think he was using it pretty randomly. Half the time he
wouldn't even sign off. And other times he's usually like very boring, like best.
The other one that he liked that I've only seen him use that I realized that I am sort of starting
to pick up is many thanks. Oh, yeah. Okay. Many thanks. And it's like, all right. Yeah. It's
especially comes like rolls off naturally if you're asking for a favor for somebody. And I say
thank you in advance a lot, but like as a part of the body messages rather than as a sign off. And
he uses this in the many thanks as like, the sign off. Yeah. Or like many thanks, exclamation mark
at the end. And then yeah, his name. I realized that that's something I'm picking up. Yeah. But
warm wishes, I think is the funniest one I've seen so far.
That's I, I'm trying warm wishes. I find it. I find it funny that you find warm wishes. So funny.
It's it like, and I think it's just perhaps I don't know who or if anyone has used it. But I
just you know what, maybe I'll tell you off the record who it's coming from. And then you're like,
yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. I'll probably get it. I do. I do feel like maybe in 20
years, I would be the person who would like, pick warm wishes instead of best it would be like,
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it'd be like becoming a little bit older and more like grandfathery or something.
You need to be a little seasoned. Yeah, I feel like Yeah, because right now,
I think best sits with like the, the friendly sort of look, I'm not here to. Okay, there's a
phrase I would use there. But maybe maybe not the podcast. I'm not here to cause you any trouble or
gripes, right? I just look, I'm gonna help you out if you help me out. And, and like, that's,
that's it, right? Best is a nice way to do that, I think. But warm or warm regards warmly sort of
thing. I do see how it creates that, like a little bit more intimate state, which I wouldn't want to
do. Unless I was sort of purposefully trying to put off that, unless that's your intention. Like,
yeah, I'm, I'm trying to make it so that like, look, I'm here to like, to sort of connect with
you. It's, it's fine, right? Like it's a, it would, it could be an attempted reassurance.
But it's also not necessarily what you would put. If you're trying to like reassure somebody,
right? Yeah, it's like a comforting. Anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah. Many thanks. I have you saying
many things. It's a very particular, it's very particular to him. I haven't seen him seen anyone
else use it, but it use it other than him. It makes sense. I like I started adding, I don't
know when I started doing this. Maybe when it was like here somewhere. But I started adding
above my best, sometimes I'd like it, sometimes not, whatever. A thanks in advance. Okay,
which is kind of like the acknowledgement of, hey, I know I'm asking you for something here.
And whatever you can do for me, it'd be great. Thank you, you know, for whatever you can do
sort of idea that that went through modifications over time. Yeah. But thanks in advance feels like
it rolls off for me just like maybe many thanks would for for this person. So yeah,
many things like thanks in advance is like it sounds more business like it sounds more
professional setting. And I think many things is a bit more on a casual side, where you have some
kind of established relationship with this person already. And you use many things, right? Yeah. I
don't know. But I like I like the the the sort of the balance of casualness and still being
appreciative. Yeah, kind of tone that many things give. Yeah, I, I like that. I like that. Yeah,
yeah. And China thing. That's it for the show today. Thanks for listening and find us on x
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