BONUS: Hard Fork Live! Big Tech’s Arch Nemesis + Bot, or Not?

Jonathan Kanter, who heads up the Justice Department’s antitrust division, believes that antitrust laws are critical for innovation — from ad tech to A.I. The assistant attorney general is bringing a new philosophy to enforcing those laws. So, how is his new approach to protecting competition playing out?

Plus: Can you guess whether that was a bot, or not?

On today’s episode:

• Jonathan Kanter is the assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s antitrust division.

Additional reading:

• Jonathan Kanter has long been a critic of big tech.
• The Justice Department has accused Google of abusing a monopoly over online advertising.

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