NewJeansの音楽作成者
Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast.
So last episode, we talked about NewJeans.
And I said, I ended with, I want to talk to you about the composer of NewJeans' music.
So, NewJeans, I'm sure you know, but is a very popular K-pop girl's band, girl's group.
And most of their songs, I don't know if it's everything, but most of the songs are composed by this one person.
I think it's kind of rare.
Like a lot of groups, they have their music composed by all these different composers.
But for NewJeans, they have this one single guy.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I think his name is, I don't know how to pronounce it, but it's like 250.
250, okay.
いおごう or something like that. I don't know how to read it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like,いごう,いごう,いごう, I don't know.
いごう, yeah, yeah.
But it's like 250 in numbers.
Okay, right.
And I was like, I mean, this guy should have a raise, should get a raise, right?
I mean, he's doing such a great job of like, I mean.
He does such an important role.
Right.
And NewJeans is very famous for having a very like a good sound, good track, right?
And I wanted to know what kind of guy is behind this success.
So I looked him up and found this guyいごう, 250, and decided to listen to his, he himself is an artist and producing his own music.
いごう, 250のアルバムの印象
And I was like, he released an album.
Oh, really?
And I listened to his album.
Oh, very interesting.
I was so surprised of how different the sound was.
Compared to NewJeans ones?
Yeah.
Oh, really?
It was so interesting.
And it was like, the vibes that he has feels just, I mean, who am I to judge?
But like, it feels so outside of the boundaries of what's being popular.
I see, I see, I see.
It's so unique.
Wow.
And it's unbelievable how someone that creates this kind of music can create, at the same time, music like NewJeans for the masses.
And I wanted to get your thoughts on it.
Wow, wow.
I'd love to listen to that.
Yeah.
NewJeansの人気曲
What kind of songs, which songs of NewJeans do you know?
None?
Um, Super Shy.
Yeah, Super Shy.
Wow, you know Super Shy.
Yeah, I know Super Shy.
Yeah, I know that one.
Yeah.
Um, Ditto.
Yeah, Ditto.
That's a famous one.
Yeah.
Um.
Um.
OMG?
Oh my, oh my god.
This and this and that.
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.
No?
No, that doesn't sound.
All right.
But, you know, Ditto and Super Shy.
Yeah.
Super Shy, I know the hook.
The hook.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
But, well, I mean, anything, any songs will be fine.
Why?
Yeah, because, um, in many places I've heard about them.
Oh.
About the songs, about the tracks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like revolutionary.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, they're very good at performing, like the five, right?
Five members.
Yeah, five members, yeah.
Five members are very good at performing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, like, the five members are very good at, like, performing on stage.
I, I, that's why they've, you know, got this pop, popular-ness, pop-ness?
Popularity.
Popularity.
Yes.
Yeah.
But I'm just, but at the same time, the, as you said, behind all the, like, actual songs
and structures are very, very well made.
Yeah.
Right.
That's what I recently heard from many people, so.
Right.
I have to, you know, listen to them and study, so.
Right. Many people, including me, began with the music.
I heard their songs and was like, wow, this is addictive.
Wow.
Take a look.
With an OMG for a sec.
Okay, okay. Please, please, please.
And I remember you once had me listen to one song, right?
I don't remember.
Yeah, but which was very, like, changing.
Oh, I see. Right, right, right.
That was at that time, the current popular structure of K-pop music, right?
The genre would change right in the middle.
For example, like N-mix.
I think that was N-mix.
The genre completely changes with Goto-san, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But right now, I guess it's changed a little bit.
This one doesn't change.
Okay, so this is OMG.
OMG, it's one of the popular ones.
Okay, okay.
I'm going to skip to the chorus.
All right.
Or do you want to listen to the whole thing?
Yeah, I want to.
All right.
Until the first chorus.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you don't mind.
Oh, of course.
Yeah.
Like R&B sound.
Smooth.
Okay.
Trap.
Trap beat.
Trap. Oh, yeah, it's true.
I love the bass.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Oh, lovely.
That was number one.
Okay, okay.
I love the sound.
Like, basically, it's like R&B sound with the trap beats.
Okay.
And they sing in English and Korean, right?
Yeah, right.
That's right, that's right.
Lovely.
Hype Boy is another song you should listen to.
ニュージーンの曲の特徴
Okay.
I'm going to play it, okay?
Okay, thank you.
Hype.
Hype Boy.
Boy, okay.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Oh.
Oh, wow.
Cool.
Yeah.
What was the part you thought it was cool?
You said cool in the middle.
Yeah, before the hook, I guess.
Before the hook?
Yeah.
Before that?
Yeah, just before that.
Like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can I listen to that part again?
Help me up, so I'm cheesy.
Right here.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah, it's cool.
Yeah.
So you get the vibe.
Mm-hmm.
Well, not...
Yeah.
There are...
I don't know if there's a single vibe of this or not,
but, like, you get...
Yeah.
You heard...
Now you know kind of like the basics of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's obviously the very pop sound...
Okay.
...within the...
I see.
...mainstream sound, I guess.
I see, I see.
Right, right, right.
Well, it's unique, of course, but, like, you know,
like modern R&B sound with the trap hip-hop sounds and...
I see.
...smooth singing, and it's very, like, strong, popular...
Mm-hmm.
...song, right?
Arrangement.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Helmのアルバム「PPONG」の特徴
Now I want you to listen to 2-5-0.
2-5-0, okay.
This is Helm.
Okay.
And...
Wow.
...like this...
Is that, like, album...
That's his album cover.
Cover, wow.
Yeah.
Looks very classic.
Like, traditional.
Yeah, not pop.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like...
Cool, huh?
And many of the songs are very different.
Okay.
So I want you to listen to a few of them.
And I want you to tell me if you see any connections with New Genes.
Okay.
Because I don't.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Wow.
I think it's too different.
Wow, okay, okay.
So the album title is PPONG.
I don't know how to read it, but it's PPONG, Pi 2-5-0.
Okay.
Pong.
Pong.
Let's listen to anything.
I'm gonna choose a random song, okay?
Is there any, like, your favorite one?
I don't have a favorite one.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's do...
Okay, please.
Number four, Rear Window.
Okay, please.
What are the beats?
It's kind of like...
It's kind of like...
It's kind of like a Hype Boy vibe.
Like this synth sound.
Oh.
He uses a lot of this...
You use that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He does.
He uses a lot in this album.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, right?
Hmm.
All right, next song.
Next song is number seven, I Love You.
I Love You, okay.
Wow.
I'm gonna skip to the middle of the song, okay?
Okay, okay.
2 minutes and 38 seconds.
Wow.
Next song.
Okay, okay.
Number one, It Was All a Dream.
It Was All a Dream.
All a Dream.
All a Dream, okay.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Nice.
Is it, like, traditional old song?
This seems very traditional.
Yeah, yeah.
I've heard some say that he's doing a mix, like a remix of an old song.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
With a classic Enka-ish kind of song.
Right, right, right.
It sounds kind of Enka, right?
Yeah, with a new...
New vibe to it?
Hip-hop, like...
Right, right.
Yeah, yeah.
Last song.
Okay, okay.
Bang Bus, number two.
Bang Bus?
Bang Bus.
Bus.
Yeah.
Like a bus?
Bus, yeah.
Okay.
I think out of all his albums, this is the most popular, most played song.
Oh, okay, okay.
Got some...
Ooh.
The...
Meow, meow sound.
Yeah, yeah.
Sounds like YMO.
YMO?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like a...
Oh.
Like a techno...
Right.
Techno hip-hop dance.
Right.
With a synthesizer and, like, a...
Like an Asian, like, rhythm.
Ah, that's right.
The melody, you know.
Like a Chinese-ish, traditional...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to skip to the middle of the song, okay?
Let's do three minutes.
Okay.
Ooh.
Hey.
Yeah, I get it how this is the most listened song.
Right, right, right, right.
It's the most...
Mass.
Right, right, right, right.
Right.
All right.
Oh, cool.
So what do you think, Ben?
Oh.
Tell me.
Okay, okay.
Hmm.
Um, okay.
How is it similar to...
Like, is it...
What do you think?
To me, it was a shocker.
Shocker?
Yeah.
This is so different.
Right, right, right.
I agree with that.
It's very different from what I listened as a new zine...
New zines.
Yeah.
And that's his original, so very different.
But, um...
So I...
I'm not, like, a heavy listener of new zine songs.
I'm not...
Like a...
I don't know about, like, details and details.
But, so...
About this album, his originals...
Well, I think he's trying to, like, mix the very traditional side of, like, Korean...
Or, like, Asian music.
And, like, more than, like...
NewJeans曲のコンポーザー氏のアプローチ
Like...
Kind of, you know?
Sounds into, like, one package, I guess.
And, um...
That's what I like, actually.
Yeah.
What I'm trying to do is...
Well, I'm very, like, very far from this guy.
But what I'm trying to do is trying to mix, like, those modern, like, R&B and hip-hop sound.
And, like, Japanese traditional sound into one.
Yeah.
In a way, so that's a very similar concept.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he's, I mean, obviously, high, high level.
So, very good.
But I kind of very, like, really, like, yes, I...
You get it.
Yeah, I get it.
Kind of.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
That was so quick.
I mean, I didn't even catch the modern and the traditional remix.
Like, I didn't even...
That didn't even cross my mind.
So, it's surprising.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, once you mentioned it, like, I get it.
Like, I do hear it now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Like, sound-wise and, like, rhythm-wise, you know, many of, like, traditional, like, Asian...
I think Koreans too, but, like, it's, like, a different rhythm.
Like, a...
Right, right, right.
Right?
So, some of the songs were, like, I think that was I Love You or something.
Like, this sound...
Whereas, like, R&B sound, like...
Right?
Like, a mix together and it sounds, like, weird, but somehow, like, some kind of interesting, like, rhythm...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
New Zealandのサウンドとの類似性
And that's something I found from New Zealand songs.
Really?
The rhythm changes all the time, right?
Like, not like this, but, you know, like, verse...
Like...
Kind of...
Ah, yeah, right, right, right.
So, I guess he's very, very strong at those, like, rhythms, I guess.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
And, yeah, also I found, like...
So, I think this is Korea and Japan is very close.
I kind of...
I don't know why, but felt, like, some kind of, like, a nostalgic thing.
Like, Showa no...
Or, like, you know.
Like, very...
Something nostalgic from that album.
And that might be, you can...
Maybe I can find from New Zealand, like, a sound, like...
So, I first heard New Zealand, those songs, were, like, very, like, like a kind of American or European sound.
But at the same time, I felt something, like, nostalgic at the same time.
It's, like...
From the instrument that it's using, or is it the melody that they have?
The background melody, or...
Both?
Very interesting.
Yeah.
Both?
Yeah.
Well, I should listen more carefully, those songs, but, like, maybe the synthesizers, like...
Like a horse, maybe?
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
I'm not sure, but, yeah.
That, like, nostalgic-ness is, I think, similar.
Wow.
Yeah.
You're really good at this.
Yeah, well, I mean, yeah.
I didn't even...
I didn't even catch that.
That was really...
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
You're really into music.
250.
Yeah, 250.
I think it's Iyogo or something.
I think that's what the katakana says.
Oh, yeah, thank you.
I'm gonna check him.
He released some albums, right?
I think that's the only...
I think the one that I got you to listen was the only album that he has out.
I mean...
Oh, no, no.
It wasn't the only album.
But this is his whole full song.
This is all the songs he has.
I think most of it was a PPOMG.
Okay, okay.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
250.
Wow, wow, wow.
So...
Is it still connected?
Yeah, it's still connected.
Can you play the YMO?
YMO?
YMOとの比較
Sakamoto Ryuichi-san.
Yes.
That's a...
Like a Hosono Harumi.
That's his band, kind of.
Japanese like techno, synth, disco pop sounds.
Let's say...
This one.
Higashi...
Yeah, Tonpu.
Tonpu.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
They also tried to remix those like traditional Asian, Japanese melody and sound with that techno pop computer sound into one package.
So I think it's a bit similar.
Oh, wow, true.
Yeah, yeah.
This does sound like 250.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
This does sound like 250.
Yeah, it's got the same...
I don't know.
For lack of better terms, awkwardness.
Yeah.
Weirdness.
Weirdness, yeah.
Right.
And I think a 250 sound is more modern.
I see.
I think that's a revolutionarily evolved those computers and mechanical things so he can produce more like a bad sound.
I see, I see.
But I think like very...
But I get a very similar...
Yeah, concept.
Vibe.
I get it.
Yeah, yeah.
The synthesizer sound.
Yeah, the dunce, dunce, dunce.
Right, and the drum beat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah, but 250 is more, I think, modern and new and like more like a K-pop-y.
K-pop-y?
Like a more digital?
Yeah, digital and new and like edgy.
Edgy?
新しいジーンズ曲のコンポーザーが興味深い件
Yeah.
Sounds that's never been heard before.
Especially like the rhythm sections, the drums and bass are very...
Unique?
Yeah.
Modern?
Like edgy.
Yeah, more edgy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
They're good at this.
Yeah, I mean...
Wow.
Well, thank you for introducing that guy.
I want to make you listen to more K-pop songs.
Yes, please.
I want to know your thoughts on it.
Like it's very interesting.
Yeah.
I feel like knowing these information makes me love K-pop even more.
Like...
True, true, true.
Yeah.
Wow.
All right.
Thanks for listening, guys.
K-popへの愛着が深まる
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
