声をかけるタイミング
Welcome to the Kevin's English Room Podcast!
Hello!
So, this is from Kaba-san.
Okay.
ケビンさん、ヤマさん、こんにちは。いつも楽しく聞いています。
Thank you.
先日からヤマちゃんが大量に出現していることを聞いて気になったためメッセージを送りました。
Okay.
Do I?
I mean, I've never heard of any of that.
I mean, I heard Kake-chan.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
I guess that's like misunderstanding.
Misunderstanding?
I don't know.
Because I don't think I'm...
I don't usually see you anywhere.
I see Kake-chan all over the place, but like you, kind of rare.
Yeah, a few days ago I saw Kake-chan too.
Oh, you saw Kake-chan on the street?
On the street, yeah.
On the platform.
Oh, platform.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, he's usually in the street station.
I was literally like, oh, that's Kake-chan.
And I was like, no, no.
Maybe not him.
Maybe not.
Yeah.
例えば
So, I don't think that's me, though.
先日からヤマちゃんが大量に出現していることを聞いて気になったためメッセージを送りました。
例えば、確実にヤマちゃんらしき方にすれ違った際にお声をかけてもいいのでしょうか。
その際にどのようにお声かけすればいいでしょうか。
陽気にヤマちゃんって声をかけたほうが嬉しいのか、ボソッとヤマちゃんですかって声をかけたほうが嬉しいのか気になりました。
よろしくお願いします。
注目を浴びることの不安
Okay.
Yeah, what would be a better option?
But if I only have these two options, I think I prefer like ボソッという方。
I don't prefer like on a street and like people saying like ヤマちゃん
I prefer ボソッという方かな。
Yeah.
What about you?
So, me too, if it's that two, I'd rather be quieter.
Because, so what I find the most, like the biggest risk factor in this situation are the secondary notices.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like if one person notices me and be like, hey Kevin, and then like makes a scene.
Right.
The people around it will be like, what's what's happening here?
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And that's kind of, that's kind of scary to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, that I don't like happening.
You know, that may see uncomfortable.
Yeah.
Especially if I have to be there for like a longer period of time.
Like, you know, if I'm on the go moving, I can just walk away.
Right.
Leave the scene.
Right.
But like, let's say for example, I don't know, maybe I'm at a restaurant.
Right.
I have to sit down.
Yeah.
And there are people around me.
That becomes neighbors of mine.
If that one person just sort of like makes a scene.
Yeah.
Then I have to deal with like.
Right.
Oh, this guy is maybe somebody.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Throughout the whole restaurant.
And that's, that's so uncomfortable.
I can't be myself.
Like I can't, it's not like I'm not gonna do anything like rude or anything.
But like I have to always like act.
Right.
Like thinking that I'm like seen from every angle.
Yeah.
And that's not very comforting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'd rather, you know, have people say hi to me like quietly.
Yeah.
You know.
Not be noticed by anyone.
What?
What?
Kevin, you're real.
Enough.
I think the worst scenario, like the, if you take that degree and then make it so much
higher.
Okay.
I experienced this.
Okay.
I heard from him.
I think you heard it too.
But like he was in the train.
Okay.
Just minding his own business.
And this weird lady walked up to him.
It was like.
Really loudly.
In the train.
That was, that must've been like a disaster.
It was a weird guy.
He's a weird, weird guy.
You know.
Okay.
Yeah.
They're pointing the finger out.
Okay.
So loudly.
And then everyone around, they looked at him.
And I was so happy.
That was a disaster.
That was a disaster.
Yeah.
The train is one of the, with the most difficult situation.
Right.
It is.
It is.
Until the next stop.
Yeah.
You cannot do anything.
You're stuck there.
You're stuck there.
Right.
It's terrible.
That's terrible.
And then everyone around looked at him.
That was a disaster.
Yeah.
That's a disaster.
Yeah.
That's a disaster.
Yeah.
That's a disaster.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a disaster.
Yeah.
That's terrible.
I didn't know that.
That's funny.
That's funny.
Yeah, it's disastrous.
He said he had to get off at the next stop, even though it's not, because, yeah, you have
to skip trains.
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah, I feel sorry for him.
I would love to see that situation.
Yeah, me too.
From afar.
How he reacts.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You haven't had any, like, weird encounters like that?
No.
No?
That's good.
Have you?
Weird encounter?
Um...
No, to me, like, everybody's very polite.
What was that?
Everybody's very polite.
Yeah, like, yeah.
Yeah, most people are very polite.
I haven't had anything weird like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I haven't had anything weird like that, you know?
他者とのインタラクション
Like, most of the encounters are, like, even if it's a little bit like, you know, like,
ooh, I don't want this to happen.
Like, I understand, like, I understand how the angle that I'm worrying about things is
kind of, like, too, like, specific and too deep.
Okay.
Okay.
That it's, like, I understand that it's not fair to ask people to care for those things.
Like, you know.
Sure.
I understand that.
So, like, most of the interactions I have with people are just, it's, like, mannered.
Like, usually mannered.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I haven't had anything weird.
I did have one person that started videotaping me.
Really?
Yeah.
But to be fair, I was videotaping in the streets on my own YouTube.
Oh, I see.
So, like, it was kind of, like, kind of, like, you know, fully private moment.
Like, I'm shooting in the streets.
We're going to make that video public.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Right?
A little too weird.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Still, I did have to stop the recording and tell that person to be like, hey, let's chill.
Yeah.
But that's it though.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's it.
I don't remember when was that, but I remember that was in Don Quixote or somewhere.
That we asked three together in Don Quixote.
Okay.
And you and Kake-chan were, like, running from little high schooler, like, group of
middle schooler or, like, high schoolers.
I think I know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I remember.
You remember that?
Weren't we...
Wasn't it Don Quixote?
Like...
Weren't we looking at T-shirts of the weird English that was on T-shirts or something?
That's why we were...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe?
Maybe, yeah.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I remember, like, you guys around me can just...
I was looking from afar.
Yeah.
Like, there's a group of people, like, try to catch you guys.
That's right.
We were on a race.
We were on a Tom and Jerry race.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
That's the worst.
The more that person has nothing to lose, the scarier it is to be noticed by them.
著名人と一般人の違い
Yeah.
Because they could do something wild.
They try to capture more...
They try to suck more value out of the fact that they encountered somebody, you know?
That's kind of scary.
Yeah.
And the group of, like, chugakses and kokoses, pretty...
Could be wild sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you gotta be careful.
Yeah.
You gotta be careful.
I'm sure most of those people are, you know, kind and nice.
Yeah.
No, I've never met those people.
Okay.
Everybody's very kind.
Yeah.
Do you think, is it...
Which one is, like, mannered?
Like, which one is...
Like, should you say that you know you, you know that guy from the beginning, or you shouldn't say that?
Like, if...
That's, like, a forever topic, you know?
Yeah.
And it also comes down to the person's preference, too.
So, like, it's not...
That's so selfish, though, right?
Like, the person who notices someone, like, on the internet, right?
Yeah.
They don't know if that person wants to be said hi or kept quiet.
Right, right.
And it's kind of, like, arrogant for the internet people to force that onto people.
Yeah.
It's a lot of...
Yeah.
It's a little bit, like, well, it's fair not to know.
So, like...
Right, right, right.
But even though...
Right.
Even though we do have our preferences.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, if you are, like, very famous...
Yeah, like, Ronaldo famous.
Yeah.
Messi famous.
Yeah.
Like, everybody knows that everybody knows him.
Yeah.
So, it's not a problem anymore.
Like, it's, like, it's too famous and you don't have to worry about that anymore, like, right?
Yeah.
But, so, like, me...
Like, most of the people doesn't know me in Japan, in the world.
So, if somebody tells me that somebody knows me, I'm very surprised.
Okay.
And I kind of, like, did I do anything wrong?
Like...
What do you mean?
Like, I don't think I'm watched by people.
Okay.
Because people doesn't know me and I'm just a guy.
Okay.
But if suddenly, like, someone says, like, someone knows me...
Okay.
Then I...
Really?
Do you know me?
And that just very surprises me.
Uh-huh.
And I have to think, like, was I doing, like, proper?
Was I doing, like...
That start worrying me.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, I prefer if somebody knows me, like, it's kind that you say so.
Okay, okay, okay.
Then, like, without saying it, just see me and just check everything.
Oh, okay.
You see what I mean?
Oh, so you're talking about...
I don't know how that relates to you thinking that people don't know you.
I understand that when people notice you.
Yeah.
Like, it's fair.
Like, you want them to say that they know you.
声をかけるタイミングの考察
Yeah.
Because you don't want them just, like, checking up on you.
Yeah.
Secretly.
It's like...
You know?
It's like...
So, if I see you on the street...
Okay.
And then just...
If I, like, see you like this and just, oh, he's doing that.
Yeah.
And that's, like, something I don't do.
I don't want to do that.
Yeah, like, people are kind of, like, stalking you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Checking, like, you know, like, undercover.
Right, right, right, right.
Trying to check what you do.
Yeah.
So, on the street, I mean, you don't have to.
It's just you pass through and just, oh, and just, that's okay.
Okay.
But if you're, like, sitting next to you on a...
I don't know, like, in a restaurant or anything, it's like...
To me, it's fair that...
It's not fair, like, without telling you and just seeing you, like, checking you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
At this moment, that's what I'm feeling.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah.
I see.
But, you know, if that's, you know...
Okay, if you...
Okay.
So, this is an actual situation that I encountered.
Okay, okay, okay.
I was at a yakiniku place.
Not a koshitsu, just a regular, you know, open-seated yakiniku, right?
And across the table, there was an athlete, very famous athlete.
Oh, okay, okay.
One of the medalist athletes.
I'm just sitting over there.
Yeah.
With a wife, maybe.
Okay.
I noticed.
It's got to be him.
Yeah.
And it was interesting.
I was like, oh, okay.
But he was with his wife.
I don't know.
And I was like, I mean...
And I didn't say anything.
Okay.
So, you're talking about, in that situation...
Yeah.
You wanted me to say hi to him.
And tell him that, hey, I know you.
I mean, true.
That's a difficult situation.
Or you don't look at him.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
I wasn't, like, being creepy and all.
Yeah.
Like a bodyguard or nothing like that.
I was just like, oh, it's him?
Uh-huh.
Oh, that's what he looks like in real life?
Yeah, true.
And that was kind of it.
That was kind of it.
I was like...
Yeah.
But it wasn't like...
I'm not a...
So, I was not a big fan of that person.
I just knew him because he won a medal and he was on TV.
And it was like, okay.
Yeah.
I know him because I saw him twice on television.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's kind of it, right?
And it's...
I don't know what to say.
I don't know what to say to him.
Yeah, you're not a fan.
Right.
Like, I'm not going to say, I love what you do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course, I mean...
It's more interesting.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, support you.
Of course, I support him, right?
Because there's a lot of respect.
But like, it's not like...
Like...
Right?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
It was like...
The energy was...
It wasn't something like...
I don't want...
Like, there was more of like...
I don't want to disturb him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, he's with his wife.
Yeah, I understand that.
Enjoying his meal.
Yeah.
Like...
What would a person like me, with this like low energy,
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Disturb him?
Yeah.
In his peace?
In his private time?
Yeah.
So, that was...
Yeah.
Yeah, I understand that.
So, I don't...
The thing I don't like is this...
For example, like...
You don't say anything until the end.
And then, at the end, you say that.
Okay.
That's...
I don't like.
If you don't say it, you just don't say it.
It's like...
I would do the same thing if I were you in that situation.
Oh...
Oh...
And everybody does that.
So, that's completely fine.
And I prefer that.
I don't want to be bothered like that.
Yeah.
But like...
Yeah.
The thing...
The situation I always be surprised.
It's like...
I didn't notice until the end.
Okay.
But at the very end, like...
You really kind of...
Okay.
That's something...
It's not fair for me.
If you do that, just say it from the beginning.
Okay.
Then I would...
I don't do anything, but...
Right.
Like, really?
Uh-huh.
Say it.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But that's just my...
That's your preference, right?
Right now.
Right now, how you feel?
You know, in this kind of moment.
Okay.
As of today.
Okay.
Okay.
I mean, it is an ongoing, like...
Yeah.
Because I think I'm rather open for those conversations.
You are.
You definitely are.
Yeah.
So, if you know me, if you have any topics that you want to talk about, then just...
Why don't you start a conversation?
Yeah.
他人との交流の重要性
You're very open to talking to strangers.
You are.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
That surprises me.
Oh.
It's like...
What?
What did you say?
Now.
From...
Like, from when?
Kind of.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
All right.
For another topic.
All right.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Bye-bye.
