会議での意見表明
Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast.
Hello.
Hello, hello.
Do you have...
We're still on the same topic.
Continuing the meeting tips.
As you're there, you're at a meeting.
From my point of view.
Do you have anything that you're...
Tips?
Things that you...
Things in your mind when you do the meetings.
When you attend the meetings.
Do you have any
like mindset or like anything?
Any hint?
I don't know. I try to...
Wow.
Maybe nothing, honestly.
You just do it like this.
Maybe I'm just doing it like...
I don't know.
I don't know.
To think that you're...
You have the right to be respected.
Just like everybody else.
So my opinions matter.
Just as anybody else.
Oh.
That's good.
That's deep.
I don't think like that in the meetings.
I've never thought like my opinion is
as important as others.
If I don't have any roles.
That's a good phrase.
リーダーシップと参加者の理解
I know if somebody is very good at something.
Like do it naturally.
Like genius people
on any field.
They don't know how to do it.
They don't know how to explain it
because they can just do it.
I don't know.
But...
Just as much as I think
my opinion matters
just as anybody else.
What I also do is I look at
the characters of the people.
And if one person is a leader
and if the meeting is working
then I try to
support the leader as much as possible.
And if there's no leader
then I guess I would try
my best to be a leader.
And try to assign people
to be my supporter.
Same way I
look at...
If there is a leader I guess I
try to...
Yeah, same thing.
Oh.
Is that kind of normal though?
Normal though?
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, I see.
How do you see there's no leader
in the meetings?
When the person is talking a lot.
And if
that person is not an asshole.
I see.
I see.
Is it easy for you to
see that? Like tell that?
Yeah, I mean...
I prefer you can tell it
just as well as I can.
You know, every time we
enter into a meeting and then
there's some other corporate people in there.
We'd all agree on who was the asshole.
Right?
We all have a similar radar.
I see.
What about like
you're attending the meeting
and the other four, five,
I would say five guys.
Almost everybody was like
stupid.
They sound like stupid.
They sound stupid.
But they are doing the argument
and they are
making somehow
会議の難しさ
the meetings going on
and reaching to the conclusion.
How do you
deal with that?
Well then if you think everybody's
stupid and everybody's wrong,
you just have to go in there
and be like, hey,
I know we got to the conclusion of this
but I am kind of questioning
the whole base of this.
This is where I think
I'm looking at it differently.
That's nice.
Oh, that's good.
Is this good?
Because sometimes that happens to me.
Okay.
I don't want to be arrogant
but sometimes in the meetings
like let's say
there are like eight attendances.
Okay.
Six of them
sound...
Total dumbasses.
But somehow they're making conversations
and
they're
making something,
building something
and then to me
I'm
becoming not sure
if I am stupid.
You're the dumbass.
Or they're the dumbass.
I don't know what to do.
I can't be
the lead.
I can't like stepping in.
Oh, okay.
Because somehow they're doing
the discussions and then somehow
they're like, ah, this young man
reaching agreement.
I see.
So,
maybe...
That is a difficult scene.
Okay.
That is a difficult scene because everybody...
So you're talking about scenes where
everybody is caring for each other, right?
Kind of, yeah, I'd say.
But it's working actually.
The meetings are working.
Okay.
And they are becoming
close to the conclusion.
Wait, wait, wait.
Am I right or are they right?
And I cannot judge it.
And just hold it and just...
Yeah, okay.
Let them finish it, kind of.
But ultimately,
in those meetings,
I guess it all comes down to do you care
if it works or not?
Because if you care, then you're going to step in.
But if you don't,
you probably don't.
True.
Do you step in?
If I don't care, I would not step in.
Oh, you don't?
I would not step in.
But if you care, you would step in.
Yeah, if I care, I would step in.
There were several times
that I did not step in.
I'm like, let them figure it out.
I really don't care what the conclusion would be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That happened before, several times.
I see.
Multiple times.
So I guess you're like...
I learned from those conversations
that we did.
You're brave.
I think, I feel like you're...
The circle
of the responsibility
is, I guess, bigger
会議での意見表明の難しさ
than me.
So that you're more like...
Or maybe you're in the right place.
So that you...
It matches.
The topics and interests
matches.
Yeah.
So far, that's what I learned.
Yeah.
Do you...
Sorry for many questions.
Maybe do the next episode
if you want to.
All those
what we talked about,
I'm very convinced.
I'm so agreed.
In addition,
beside of those things,
for example, in my project,
my, for example, music things,
sometimes I still...
I feel that
I'm very bad at meetings.
Very bad at
explaining things.
And I...
It's very rare that I feel
I could explain
everything smoothly.
And I felt like
everybody understood what I wanted
to say.
So most of the time, I feel like
I couldn't explain
well.
I couldn't explain enough.
And they didn't...
I couldn't make myself understood
easy enough for everybody.
Do you have those feelings?
Yes, I do.
And it's surprising that you had it.
Because out of the three of us,
you're the best explainer.
Really?
From my eyes, you're the best explainer.
That's very surprising to me.
No, I don't...
Okay.
You are the best explainer.
I don't think so.
Yes, you are.
I think you're good at building
basic stances.
You start off with basic stances
and you build up
and that's really easy to understand.
That's very...
I'm doubting.
I'm excited.
I don't know the feeling. Is it really?
I don't think you should worry about
your ability to explain things.
I've never had trouble.
I always thought you're the best one.
I truly do.
No.
Really?
Thank you for saying that.
But most of the time, I feel like
I couldn't make myself
understood
by everybody.
What I wanted to know is
first, do you have that feeling?
Yes, I do.
How do you deal with that feeling?
I have that too.
When that happens,
I'm like,
man, fuck.
I'm done.
I really don't do it anymore.
I just try to...
How should I have done it better?
I think about it,
and then I'm done. It goes away.
I guess it's stronger for you then.
Maybe it's not as heavy for me.
I guess.
It doesn't really affect me.
It doesn't build up.
It's never a stress for me.
Well, it is at the moment.
But it doesn't build up.
That's good.
Do you have any tips for that?
自己評価とスキル向上
Like you just forget it?
Yeah.
Well, let's try it again.
And then if it fails,
that's my reality.
That's my skill.
That's my current power.
I'll do it again and see if it works better.
Yeah, I guess I'm like
overrating myself.
Overrating my explanation skills
as the actual,
the real
ability.
The difference between these
makes me sad.
Oh, I see.
That's true.
That's true.
So many learnings.
I don't think
you have to worry about your explanation skills.
Well, thank you for that.
Yeah, I'm very better.
But you're not satisfied.
Yeah, I'm very bad at meetings. I'm very bad at explaining.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, okay.
I see.
It was a good conversation for me.
Yeah, okay. Anytime.
Thank you for that.
I know I need to improve this.
Meeting skills and explanation skills
to make things happen.
Okay.
Yeah, it's your goal.
I hope it works out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In some sort of way.
All right.
Thank you.
No, no problem.
Thank you, guys. Bye-bye.
