東京の歩くスピードの印象
Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast.
Hello.
OK, this one.
OK.
ええと、朝見さん。
ケビンさん、ヤマチャンさん、こんにちは。いつも楽しく聞かせていただいています。
私は東京、特に都心で生活している方に聞いてみたいことがあります。
時々東京に遊びに行くのですが、毎回駅や街中ですれ違う人たちの歩くスピードが速くて驚くことがあります。
やはり日常的に電車移動が多く、歩く距離が長いことで足の筋肉が鍛えられているのでしょうか。
比べたことがないのでわからないですが、車生活の地域より足腰は強いなと感じます。
あとお二人は普通に生活していてどのくらいの距離と時間なら歩いて移動しますか?
思いますか?
私は本当にゆっくり歩いています。
私はとてもゆっくり歩いています。
私は都市の中で時々人々が通り過ぎています。
おじいさんが通り過ぎています。
本当に?
はい。
わかりました。
あなたは速いです。あなたは速く歩いていますと聞きました。
人々はそう言っています。
私の場合、私は都市に行くことができません。
でも、私はゆっくり歩いています。
私はゆっくり歩いています。
でも、私はいつもプレッシャーを感じません。
例えば、あなたは街で歩いています。
私は街で歩いています。
例えば、あなたは電車から離れているとき、あなたはあなたの会社に遅れています。
私はそれを知っています。
多くの人がそれを言っているとき、
ステーションで速いと言っているとき。
私はプレッシャーを感じない。
多分私はそれに慣れています。
私は本当にそう思います。
ステーションで歩いている人はとてもゆっくり歩いています。
例えば、人が多い場合は、
ステーションで歩くのはとても難しいですよね?
ステーションは集まっています。
それが一つです。
それは何ですか?
ステーションで。
例えば、市内では人々は速く歩いています。
東京の構造と人々の動き
でも、私はそう思いません。
ステーションで人が多い場合は、
人々は速く歩けない。
ステーションで歩くのは体力不足ですか?
本当にゆっくり歩いています。
人々は速く歩いていないのですか?
そうです。
エスカレーターや改札口では、
人々は一つの道を歩く必要があります。
一般的に、
人々はステーションでとてもゆっくり歩いています。
でも、私は時々、
他們の顔を叩きつけたいと思っています。
歩いている人々を叩きつけるように。
あなたは速く歩く人です。
そうです。
でも、私はそれをしません。
私は人々を叩きつけるのではなく、
汚いように滑るように。
そのようなことをします。
だから、
私は市内で人々が速く歩くことは考えません。
Yeah, I've never felt that, uh, yeah, so, but, um, I kind of understand like when you
in New York or when you're in Tokyo, people are kind of busy, like kind of busy and like
rushing to something is what I sometimes feel if I compare to like a really countryside
mountainside. Yeah. And they're just like chill and easy. Yes. Kind of slow. If I compare
to those two, I kind of understand like people are rushing. Like if they have a location
to go, it's like, Oh, hurry up. Kind of. They have a destination. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Deliveries
like on time or not, like trains on time or not, like two minutes delays and they will
be like mad. And so that's what I, that's what kind of agree with, but walking like
legs strength, I don't know. I think, um, every time I hear those comments, what I think
is maybe it's just overwhelming for people who are not used to Tokyo. It's not the speed
of the people moving. It's more like too much information, too much signs. Um, you
have to think about which exit to go or which stairs to take to lead to certain exits. Right?
So you're kind of taking more time to understand the structure of the station, whereas locals,
they already know where to go. So that makes it seem like they're moving faster where you're
there just trying to, you're at a stage where you're comprehending the structure. So maybe
it's just a, it's a perception thing. They're not literally moving fast. It just, it just
seems like they're smooth. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's fat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
When I went to Osaka weeks ago, I went to down the Osaka Chikagai. Yeah. That's a maze,
by the way. I've been told. Yeah. And I, one time I got lost and then I was like, you know,
kind of like that. They go that way, go that way and back that way. And yeah, I get it.
Like people in locals, they were like smooth. They know where to go. And yeah, yeah, yeah.
東京の歩行習慣
No hesitation. Yeah. Just walk right past you. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. That makes sense.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's just that. True. Yeah. Yeah. So how far would you walk? Oh,
if you had a whole day, if you were not in a rush.
So it's not for the walking, right? It's not for the walking. You have something to do,
like your job or whatever, you know, a bunch of things. Yeah. And then how far you walk for that.
Yeah. For example, how about Tokyo to Yurakucho? That's pretty close.
Or like Omotesando to Harajuku. That's pretty close too. Yeah. You can walk.
I mean, I would walk. But if I have something, for example, like reservation, let's say like
meet somebody at 10. And then it's really rare for me to choose. You have unlimited time. Yeah.
You're always on a schedule. Yeah. I would rather take trains or whatever. The fastest way. The
fastest way. Yeah. So you've never had a time where you've never tested yourself on how far
you'd walk. Yeah. But if I have free time and nothing to do, I can obviously walk from Shibuya
to Harajuku, Yurakucho to Tokyo, obviously. Yeah. You don't know. I don't know. You don't know
will be the answer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I can walk whole night if you want to. Yeah. Like
if your body can handle it, you would do it. When I was a college student, I went to
Hakone. You walked to Hakone? From where? From Kanagawa? Yeah. Shit. Yeah. With your backpack?
No. Just your wallet? And then just bottled water. And through the night. Shit. And then
went in the onsen. Yeah. Way back was on the train. Sounds fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was the
kind of, that was the goal. But you wanted to walk. Yeah. You were there to walk. Yeah. So
if that, that, you could go anywhere, I think. Not anywhere, but yeah. Right. Right.
But in reality, I would go take a bus or train or whatever. The fastest way.
Right. If in the like scheduled ones. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Do you do that? Like
I walk. Yeah. I mean, if it's like, if it's like, I don't know if it's Harajuku to
Omotesando. Like if there's like, let's say that I wanted to get to Harajuku. There was a,
there was a shop that I wanted to go in Harajuku and I have to take two transits to get off at
Harajuku. But no transit. If I have to, if I drop at Omotesando, I would definitely go for the
Omotesando. I definitely, the less transit, the better. I would rather walk. Oh, you don't like
transit? I would rather walk. Yeah. Transit takes a lot of time, actually. It's a time loss,
I think. It's true. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't go for the transit a lot. Yeah. I'd rather not.
So walking is the fastest? I mean, I don't know. It's just, it feels the fastest. It feels the
most efficient and like it. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. It does. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True. Well,
me too. If walking is the fastest, then I would take that one. Yeah. Cause I'm always in a rush or
something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. What if compared to like US, like people drives all the
time? So Rome, there's so much more different factors, for example, like how much food you eat.
It's so differs. Your body weight, it's just so different that you can't walk. You can't walk.
東京と他の都市の歩行速度
People cannot walk? You cannot walk. There's literally electric carts. You sit down
and they move electrically. Oh yeah. To move around the store because they're too fat to walk
around the store. There are those machines everywhere in Rome, Georgia. Really? Yeah.
Everywhere in America. Yes. So it's a different story. Yeah. What if compared to New York and
Rome? I guess, I mean, people in New York, that's, they're more, you know, they walk a lot more.
Right. And then, but I don't know, compared to Japan, I think Japan walks more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I think Japan walks more. If countryside versus like city side, then it's partially true that
city size people, they're just stronger. Yes, I think so.
It's not that bad in Rome. I mean. Oh yeah. I mean, it's pretty bad.
Yeah. You, you, you, you, you find more of the overweight than the non-overweight.
Okay. Yeah. That's true. It's true.
Yeah. That's interesting. So, yeah. Okay. All right. Thanks for sitting guys. Thank you. Bye-bye.
