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Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast!
Hey.
Finger snap.
Was that a...
What?
Was that supposed to be on a beat or something?
No, it's just a sound.
Just a quick finger snap.
Nice, okay.
I like it.
Can you put some echoing on it?
Yeah, sure, let's do it.
You can do it.
Try again, try again.
Really?
Yeah.
On speaker...
Just listen to this episode on speakers, okay?
Once it's published.
It's gonna sound like an echo.
Oh, really?
Yeah, finger snapping.
That's gonna sound like a finger snap echo.
Right now I don't hear anything.
Right, because you're not listening through the microphone, right?
Okay.
Yeah, if you... the listeners right now are feeling that echo for the finger snap.
Okay.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Then...
If so, thank you.
Okay.
So this is from Andy-san.
Andy-san.
Thank you.
Andy-san.
Thank you.
Hello, my name is Andy.
Hello.
I have a question for the podcast.
Andy or Andy?
Oh.
Was that a really difficult question?
I'm sorry about that.
Did I confuse you?
It's A-N-R-I.
Ah, Anri.
Is that Anri-san?
Anri, okay.
Okay.
I thought A-N-D-Y.
Ah, sorry.
It's Andy.
It's Andy-san.
Anri-san.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, sometimes it's confusing the pronunciation.
D and D.
Yeah.
D and D.
That was difficult right there, yeah.
Okay.
It's Andy-san.
Andy-san.
Yeah.
It's not Andy-san.
Okay, got it, got it.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's, yeah.
Our sound is close to D sound.
Like, more, like closer than L sound.
D.
V.
Andy.
Andy.
Uh-oh.
That was mine?
Sorry.
Yeah, was that an emergency call right there?
No, it's just a message from...
One of the podcast listeners?
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
My favorite podcast listeners, yeah.
So, what I was saying is, in Japan,
we are saying that, you know,
our sound is similar to L sound,
but actually, our is closer, similar, more similar to D sound.
D, right?
So, that example was a perfect example.
Yeah.
And Andy.
Yeah.
Was that a R-I or a D-Y?
That's difficult.
Andy.
Andy.
That's difficult.
Andy.
That's a D-Y.
Okay, okay.
That's right.
I'm gonna try.
Andy.
That's R-I.
Yeah, that's correct.
If you look carefully, it's distinguishable.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So, this is Andy-san.
Andy-san, yeah.
Andy.
So, um...
How would you feel if you were told you're cute?
Cute.
Cute, in English, is an image that is often used by both men and women.
But I think the Japanese word "kawaii" is often used to express feminine attraction.
I wonder if the word "kawaii" can be used as a compliment for you two.
I also want to know how it can be perceived by many men.
Listening to your podcasts makes me feel positive.
I'm rooting for you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
That's Andy-san.
I feel like in Japan, I understand that there's men out there who does not like to be called "kawaii."
Yeah.
Like, rather "kakkoii."
Like, I want to be called "kakkoii" rather than "kawaii."
Like, I'm not aiming for that "kakkoii."
Oh, sorry.
I'm not aiming for that "kawaii."
I know there are people out there that hates being called "kawaii."
But I don't hate it.
Okay.
And I feel like "kawaii" has two different nuances.
Okay, tell me.
One is the actually like a "kawaii" as in like "dog kawaii."
"Kawaii" as in like "arimura kasumi kawaii."
As in like...
Like "cute kawaii."
Cute also has the same two...
Adorable kawaii.
Yeah, adorable cute.
Okay, okay.
Adorable...
No, I'm sorry.
I need a different word.
Like a...
Like a...
"Toy poodle kawaii."
Yeah, toy poodle...
I'm just gonna explain it next one so you'll understand what I mean.
And the other "cute" is like "itoshi kawaii."
Well, tell me the differences.
Okay.
Because for me, "arimura kasumi"
Okay, okay.
That's what I was...
Cute dog.
They're both "itoshi."
But like "kawaii" in the form of like...
How I say "itoshi" is like...
When you're with somebody for a very long time.
Like when you're his boyfriend/girlfriend for a long time.
Or you've been a fan of somebody.
You know?
For a very long time.
And the actions that they take is like "itoshi."
Like "kawaii kumiete kuru."
Okay.
For example, like when you're dating somebody for a very long time.
Okay.
And your partner farts.
Okay.
That's like "itoshisa ni kawatte kuru mo hayai."
Okay.
Or like...
Even if it smells bad?
That's not my point.
Even if it smells bad.
Even if it sounds like huge?
Okay, okay.
Let's get a different example.
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When they're sleeping.
Their face when they're sleeping.
And they're snoring.
That turns into "itoshisa."
Because you love them.
And the fact that they're sleeping is "itoshi."
And it feels "kawaii" to you.
And you say "kawaii."
Even if she's in "shirome wo"
That's not what I mean.
Yes, yes, yes.
Even if she's "shirome" or "hanamizu" or "ibiki" or "hitorigoto" or anything like that.
They're all "itoshi."
Because you love them.
You love him or her.
Okay, okay.
And then you say "kawaii."
That versus...
Versus...
You look at somebody in the streets.
You don't know that person.
And that man has a very...
"ima-poi" kamigata.
Like a "mashu."
"Kurokami mashu."
Is that "ima-poi"?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I think so.
To my knowledge, yes.
It's "ima-poi."
And you say "kawaii."
"Ima-kawaii."
Or if a man is wearing this cute t-shirt.
Right?
Cute t-shirt?
Like a colorful kind of...
Printed dot?
Or rainbow color?
Yeah, yes.
See, that's not "itoshi."
That's more like...
Like "fashion kawaii."
Like physically kawaii.
That's what I wanted to say.
Fashion kawaii versus like...
Emotionally kawaii to mo.
To mo.
That's the difference.
I'm trying to articulate here.
I see then.
There's two types of kawaii in Japan.
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay.
And I'm okay with being called either one of the kawaiis.
Okay.
Okay?
I see.
I got you.
Okay.
Yeah.
I personally don't like being called "kawaii."
Okay.
Because as you said before, I'm not kind of...
Those guys, want to be called "kakkoi."
I prefer those words.
Right.
So, you know, with the word "kawaii,"
Includes a little sound of...
Like little baby, like little...
Smaller, little...
Immaturity.
Yeah, little...
You know.
Like kids, little...
Right.
If you respect him,
You know, "kawaii" is not suitable.
You know what I'm saying, though?
Hmm...
Okay.
I have an argument here.
Okay, so what's your most favorite soccer...
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Player?
Sorry about that.
Yeah, football player.
Let's say Xavi Hernandez.
Xavi Hernandez.
Yeah.
There's a video out there on...
If... What's the name of your soccer team?
He's in?
That's Barcelona.
Well, he's retired, but...
Okay, got it.
Okay, let's say he was still playing for Barcelona.
Right?
If the Barcelona Instagram account,
They put out a story, right?
You know what a story is, right?
Yeah, like little...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It goes away in 24 hours, like 15 seconds long.
Yeah.
By the way, the IGTV is like more than one minute long.
You know, it won't go shit.
Okay.
Okay, you know stuff.
One point lesson.
Okay, yeah.
One point lesson here.
All right.
You know your Instagram.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, puts out Instagram stories of like...
What was his name?
Xavi.
Xavi-san, you know, sleeping.
You know, after...
Xavi is sleeping after the match.
Okay.
Yeah.
And you feel like, "Oh, wow."
Yeah.
Like, "Kawaii."
You feel like he's always so tough, tough on the field, like always fighting against, you know,
Was it a foul play or not?
And he's like, he scored three points, you know?
And he's sleeping in the bench of the...
The...
The...
Koishitsu.
Yeah.
And like, "That's kawaii."
But you still respect him.
Oh, yeah, true.
See, that's...
It's possible that you respect him and still have a kawaii feeling at the same time.
Okay.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's right.
Right.
So that kawaii is...
The emotional kawaii.
Emotional kawaii.
Yeah.
Okay.
Not the fashion kawaii.
Okay.
So maybe you're okay with the emotional kawaii, but not okay with the fashion kawaii?
Well, no.
I mean...
You don't like either one of them?
Like, there's a respect.
Because I love his football playing.
I don't respect that.
I mean...
Hmm...
But still, when you say, "Kawaii, Chabi-san neteru?"
When you say this...
A little feeling of making fun of him?
Yeah, a little like, "Ahh, kawaii!"
"Ahh, kawaii!
Kawaii!
Kawaii!"
Okay, okay.
I kind of understand that.
I kind of understand that.
You know, you know.
Like...
Right, right, right.
I'm not comfortable with those, you know.
Okay, okay.
I think I get it.
I think I get it.
I think that's the kind of thing that you can tell him later on as a joke.
Of like, trying to make fun of him or something.
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
"You were sleeping in your...
Yeah, I saw that!"
Kind of like, nuance, right?
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
Yeah.
Okay, that was a very good topic.
A new, new, new...
New style of, like, new...
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What?
Kakudo.
Of kawaii, you know.
Right.
For you.
For, yeah, for me, I...
You can...
Yeah, I'm okay.
You're okay to be called kawaii?
Yeah.
I'm definitely okay.
Definitely.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Bye-bye.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.