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Welcome to Kevin's English Room podcast!
Oh the original echo!
You're really really good at making echo.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much.
Where did you learn that skill?
Georgia.
Shhh.
So.
We're not gonna go deep further down into that topic, are we?
Alright, tell me.
We've got a letter today too.
Thank you very much.
Oh, this time this is fax.
We've got fax.
Oh, it came in fax?
Yeah.
Like the paper?
Yeah, paper.
On your phone?
Through the phone, yeah.
Oh!
Were we polishing out our fax numbers?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Well, I mean, thank you.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
I didn't know people still use fax for mailing in and stuff like that.
But okay.
Okay.
So.
Uh.
Please tell me how you two change your moods.
Wow, good question!
Good question.
Very good question.
So I need a lot of "kibun tenkan" because I work for myself.
And there isn't really much of a...
Private and work is all the same.
Oh, right.
So like, I'm always working and I'm not always working.
Something like that.
Like, it's not like I'm in office, right?
Like doing nine to five.
Right, right.
There's always things to do.
I always have to be on my laptop and work.
It's endless work.
So I need a lot of "kibun tenkan."
I do.
So one, I go to a convenience store and buy sugar.
That's one.
Okay.
That's one.
Okay.
Hear me out.
Okay?
Okay.
Next, I take a nap.
Right.
I take like a 15 to an hour nap.
15 to an hour nap.
I would watch YouTube.
Okay.
Watch YouTube.
Or I...
That's about it.
Okay.
Yeah.
So the number one, I go to the convenience store and buy some sugar.
You're...
Okay, yeah.
You're repeating what I'm saying, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay, that's...
Yeah.
That's important to you, right?
Yeah.
It's a very effective way.
Yeah.
But it's true, you know, going outside and take a walk is really good "kibun tenkan."
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Yeah.
I feel it.
I feel it.
Right.
And also, you know, when you work or study, you know, you have to take sugar into your
brain.
It's energy.
Yeah, energy.
I feel it.
Okay.
So that works.
It makes sense, right?
Yeah.
It makes sense.
Yeah.
You know, if it's not too much, that works, I think.
That's a good "kibun tenkan."
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And number two, take a nap.
Yeah.
Right.
Fifteen to...
That makes sense, right?
Right.
Yeah.
That's...
But what about...
One hour isn't that too long for you?
No?
Oh, it's...
You know, 30 minutes, I heard that 30 minutes of nap is the best, you know, length.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Because one hour or more than one hour would be a little bit long, too long.
Because I'm not...
I'm not getting a quality sleep.
Oh.
So my body's always tired.
So one hour is never too much for me.
My body rests well.
I sleep...
I sleep better in my "nidone."
In my first "ne."
First "ne."
Really, I feel so much better in my "nidone."
I don't know why, but I do.
Okay.
But in your first "ne," you sleep, what, like six or seven hours?
Six or seven hours.
And I wake up tired.
And then I do a "nidone."
And I feel great.
So maybe I should do like...
I should sleep...
Okay, I sleep about like 12 or 1 at night and midnight, right?
And then I set my alarm for like two hours.
And then "saisho no ne" for two hours.
And then I do a "nidone" for like five or six or seven hours.
Maybe I should do that.
Because I'm so much better at "nidone."
How long is your "nidone" usually?
Usually, well, it depends on my schedule.
But there are times I do a 30-minute "nidone."
There are times I do an hour "nidone."
There's times I do...
The longest is probably like three hours "nidone."
Alright.
Great.
Great.
But that's...
Okay, that's, you know, the three things are, you know, quite understandable.
Yeah.
The third one was...
Watch YouTube.
Escapism, right?
Escapism?
Escapism.
What's that?
Escapism.
From your book?
Right.
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What kind of video do you watch?
I watch K-pop videos.
I watch comedy videos.
One that I'm watching right now is "Emirin."
I know you don't know this.
It's called "Emirin Channel."
It's like...
For example, it's like a angry woman.
I imitate that.
You imitate that.
Yeah, it's funny.
It's funny.
Or like Maruyama Rei.
Maruyama Rei.
Maruyama Rei is a...
It's kind of like that.
One of my favorite.
Right, right, right, right.
Okay.
But yeah.
Or I do like an English comedy channel.
Oh.
Key and Peele.
Key and Peele is a comedy...
Comedy show.
Okay.
It's skits.
Oh, okay.
They're skits.
They're, right, comedy skits.
Or like clips of Family Guy.
Family Guy is a TV show I am used to.
Oh, Family Guy.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
The American Joke.
Anime movie.
Yeah.
Or I...
Yeah, that's about it, probably.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Well, that's a...
Those are good Kibun Tenkan things.
Yeah.
What about you?
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Go to the gym.
For Kibun Tenkan?
Yeah.
For Kibun Tenkan.
Yeah.
For Kibun Tenkan.
Yeah.
For Kibun Tenkan.
Yeah.
For Kibun Tenkan?
Yeah.
Is that convenient?
Like it has to be more convenient than that, right?
Or...
Like...
You have to schedule going to the gym, don't you?
Right.
In the morning maybe.
Right.
It's not Kibun Tenkan just...
It's a light Kibun Tenkan.
It's more like a scheduled Kibun Tenkan.
Yeah.
But thinking that week...
A week, you know, I have Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
And gym, gym, gym, gym.
So that my Kibun will be...
Tenkan sareru.
Ah.
It's controlled.
It's scheduled control.
Yes.
Wow.
Or otherwise take a cup of coffee.
You love your cup of coffee?
Yeah.
That's my Kibun Tenkan.
Yes.
And...
I slept a lot before.
But not recently.
I don't take nap.
Otherwise...
I watch YouTube too.
Like...
Someone's live concert.
Live concerts?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like music video too.
Or...
The soccer match, football match.
Soccer match.
Okay.
Okay.
Or read.
Read books?
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
That's it maybe.
Do you like...
You like reading books, right?
Mm-hmm.
You read a lot of books.
Do you ever think that consuming it in a video form or an audio form would be more convenient?
Oh, I do see the audio form...
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Like video form of some kind of books.
Uh-huh.
I sometimes watch that.
So do you...
Don't you think they're completely more convenient?
I don't see why you would...
Why it would make sense to choose a book over in video form.
All right.
So...
There's...
It's...
I think it's convenient.
But it depends on the genre of the books.
Mm-hmm.
If it's like information books...
Yeah.
Then you can listen.
You can see in a video forms.
Yeah.
That's the same thing.
The only value is getting the information.
Yeah.
So it doesn't matter.
It's on the paper or audio form or video form or conversation form.
So it's the same.
Yeah.
But like if it's novel...
You know, sometimes it happens that video form or audio forms cannot express the important thing of the novel.
Like, for example...
Like when you read, you can tell the sound or the face or, you know...
Physically, you can't, you know...
You can tell.
You see what I mean?
But not with audio?
Because audio only reads it out loud for you, right?
Yeah.
It's the same words.
But it's already sound.
So...
Like...
There's already color to it.
Yeah.
The reader's voice adds...
Yeah.
Adds a...
You know, maybe if it was recorded by male, that means that's male.
Mmm.
You know.
Well, it's good.
But in certain genre, you know, there are novels that use that kind of trick to make or build the stories.
Got it.
You know.
There are sometimes that these kind of forms cannot express the story...
Right.
The trick itself.
And otherwise, you know, I like imagining the characters and what the shape, voice, the
moving maybe, how they speak with accent maybe, you know.
That makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
That does.
You know.
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It does.
But the paper and the letters have no information at all.
Right.
Right.
The audio really limits your creativity.
Yeah.
Doesn't it?
Your imagination.
Yeah.
So that's what I like when I read the paper work or novels.
You know.
Right.
How about the environment of where you're reading your books?
For example, you're reading your book in a room versus you reading your book by the river
under a tree versus you reading your book in a crowded train.
Does that really affect how you interpret the words?
The words on the paper?
Basically the same.
No?
It doesn't really make a difference?
Right.
Because it's me and book.
Okay.
It's a closed world.
Yeah.
So it really doesn't...
You don't take information from the outer sources.
Right.
Right.
But if it's too loud around me, maybe I can't, you know, read.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Okay.
Like someone's fighting around me.
Maybe I can't read.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Basically that's the same to me.
How about feelings when you're feeling down or when you're feeling happy or when you're
in love or when you feel anger towards somebody and you read a book?
Does that really change your...
Like...
Interpretation?
I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
And the choice of the book will be different maybe.
Ah.
Makes sense.
When I fall in love, I think I would read some maybe love story.
Romance books.
I don't know, but...
Makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I understand.
Maybe that's gonna happen.
Ah.
Gotcha, gotcha.
But think about interpretation.
Not that much different.
Not...
Okay.
Got it, got it, got it.
I understand.
That makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
How about Kindle?
You don't want to go with the Kindle?
The digital one?
Yeah.
That's...
Good.
Good.
But I don't have one.
But you prefer the...
Ah, okay.
If someone gave you a Kindle, you'd enjoy it?
I think I would use that.
Ah.
Because...
Yeah.
You...
You like the paper?
Some people like the actual paper.
The physical paper.
Yeah.
The feel in your hand is different, right?
I like the papers actually, but I...
You know, actually I've never tried the Kindle.
Ah.
So maybe I will like the...
You know, I don't know, the touch.
The texture maybe.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
But for now I like the paper books.
You know, the paper itself is...
You know, it's...
How to say that?
They lead me into the book world.
Ah.
So, you know.
How about like the manga?
Manga?
No?
I like Slam Dunk.
Uh-huh.
I mean, that's the same to me.
It doesn't matter if it's manga or...
Or...
Novel.
Uh-huh.
They're the same to you.
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It feels the same.
It has, you know, visual image, manga, right?
Uh-huh.
So that's a different point, but...
Yeah, it depends on the story.
Got it.
Got it.
The communication style doesn't really make a difference.
Mm.
Okay.
It makes a lot of sense.
So your way of "ikinuki"?
Yeah.
"Ikinuki" only?
"Kibun-tenkan"?
"Ikinuki" only.
Is reading a book?
Mm-hmm.
Having a cup of coffee?
A cup of coffee, all right.
Right.
Okay.
That's it?
What was it?
Do you take naps?
You used to take naps.
Right.
Not now.
Not so much.
Go to the gym.
Right.
Schedule a gym.
Yeah.
Or maybe cook, maybe.
Ah, cook.
That's "kibun-tenkan".
Uh-huh.
Okay.
So that is our answer.
Thanks for listening again, guys.
Yep.
Bye-bye.
Bye bye!
Thank you.
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