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But at this rate, I am sure there are more information in the video format that might even be not that accessible through book format.
Because, you know, producing videos is much faster than producing books.
And there might be a lot of these new, faster-moving information that's available in or more accessible in video format than in the format that I prefer.
In which case, I am missing out, right?
Yeah, I think there's a couple things there as well, which is...
They just keep compounding these ideas onto you.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to listen to this episode again or something.
I'll need to be in the right, you know, mental space where everything is freely connected.
Yeah, not almost at 1am in Japan time.
Actually, that might be the time to re-listen to it, though. The ideas will sort of arrive.
When you have the most bandwidth.
Yeah, I'm all here.
But so, you mentioned sort of like missing out on things that might be in video form.
I think it's fair to say that everyone is missing out on certain things by not consuming a particular type of media as well as not consuming a branch of media, right?
Very true.
Yeah, so like, okay, possibly, yes.
I can think about some visual related ones that, in my opinion, are much more helpful to have as visual guides at first.
However, I do feel like I'm missing something in them.
So, for example, when I was learning Blender, which is the 3D modeling software and not the kitchen appliance.
This tool could have been written out to me, right?
And told me, you know, go to the top menu bar on the third tab over and look for, you know, something, something, something, right?
Where all these different pieces are in the interface.
What would also, you know, that would have been okay, but that's pretty hard to follow, especially when you're not familiar with the interface yet.
So that's where the images come in, right?
And so I can up level this where like now images are helpful, right?
Where you say, here's where the images and that's where this thing goes.
However, the video becomes helpful because you can see kind of the process in action.
And you can start to take away maybe the types of patterns they use or the flow that they tend to use.
Or if they are giving you a tutorial, you get to see kind of just immediately what's different between yours and their screen.
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Versus on the images, you might have skipped an image here or there, right?
Or you might have said, well, this is clear enough.
Even if you had images galore right now, you're just saying you have a video, right?
If you have a million images in a book of instructions, you have the equivalent of a video if you can stitch them together, you know.
A series of images is not going to tell you how long it actually takes to render a shape.
Also not. Yeah.
It can list, you know, five minutes to do the thing or it can.
Right.
But you don't know how that feels.
Right.
Exactly.
And you don't know.
Whereas in a video, you can have a better idea of the time passing.
Yes.
Even if they do the cheat for like speeding up because you can see it.
Right.
You have this visual awareness.
You can see the process in between.
Right.
They'll have markers and whatnot.
And you'll also be able to catch because this is something that happens not in still frame.
Right.
If I were sculpting a piece of 3D model or if I were moving certain vertices, you have to have either before and after pictures, which are probably sufficient for most of those.
But also, if you just get to see it happen, you go, that's what that whole image looks like.
Right.
So I should be able to replicate that on my screen and we should get something similar between these.
And that can be helpful.
There's also the like probably related to that lecture feeling, you know, somebody is explaining it to you, but they can also point to something, add context around it that maybe would be a little more challenging to just have written down because they're doing it as they talk about it sort of thing.
I can see these all be in place, but this still relies on what you were saying, which is kind of the doing the act of creating a thing and the making at the same time.
You can't just.
I think I think from all of my own anecdotal evidence, as well as what we know in the educational field, you cannot just take in the information and expect to be able to execute it all the time.
It's two different skills.
It's two different skills.
And when you when I was younger, I think I could do this much more easily because brain is sponge and sponge is easy to both inhale.
So you were only expected to do something very simple.
Like you can say ABC and write ABC.
That's wonderful.
Right.
You know, they were much simpler tasks.
That's also very valid.
There's like a there's definitely a range in here, right?
Because it's like sometimes if you just watch a video and you just get it, then maybe you can apply it.
But I think that goes back to needing a framework again.
Right. So the more complicated it is, the more of a framework you need.
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Right.
So maybe maybe once you have sort of the basis in the framework, it might become easier to follow video tutorial.
But for most of the things I'm looking for tutorial, I don't have that.
Right. In fact, that's actually what I'm looking for.
Like, I want to be able to build a framework of some sort.
So maybe at least to me, framework seeking person video doesn't make sense.
Yeah. You're looking for something.
Maybe video can be a bit much unless it is unless the content is hyper focused.
Right. And you already know what elements to, you know, filter out and what elements to focus on.
Yeah. Otherwise.
But again, that requires some sort of a priori knowledge about whatever you're trying to learn.
And I'm wondering if this is just the same challenge with any type of medium,
but as individuals who spent a lot of their educational growth with text medium,
like we just see text medium as a more foundational source.
Like, because that's. Yeah, I'm wondering.
I mean, maybe there's like a generational cutoff. Right.
I'm wondering if we're just millennials is what I'm saying.
Right. I mean, who knows?
But I feel like I know plenty of people my age who would rather watch a video of a YouTube dad showing how to do plumbing.
Yeah. Then like, look, like I do.
Yeah, I mean, so do I. I don't know.
That's it. My current conclusion as far as like why or what I do is that I don't really know.
I definitely use both and I'm not sure I can pin down exactly why I flip between them.
But I think I'm with you on the like.
I want either a foundation or in the reverse, as I've noticed in some videos,
when I recognize that like there's so much happening in this video that I can't choose what to pay attention to,
that I need to like I'm feeling as if I need to step away, grab a pen and paper or something and like write out what they said and go, OK,
so this thing means this and now try to understand it.
Yeah. I also this conversation is getting longer than we need it to be.
But I think I think that's as a.
A weirdly efficiency obsessed person such as me,
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I find videos to be not dense enough in information content.
There's all the fluffs in between. There's the hello, I'm Bob.
There's like and subscribe and there's like weird animation to go from scene one to scene two,
like all of this is just like I know my information that I want is in there.
And it's probably going to be about five seconds of this one and a half minute video.
And I, as a human who lives in modern age, don't even have a patience to watch one and a half minute video to get what I want.
But also, I don't know where my five seconds are in that one minute video.
Yeah, I need to watch it. And I find that frustrating.
Which is fair because you're sitting there like I wish I just knew like where it was going to be.
And and you're having it essentially withheld. Right.
I mean, at least with text on a computer, you can hit control F.
Like you can scroll, you can scroll, you can scan fast.
Yeah. And you can stop where you when it gets interesting.
And as a video, you're trying to like scan the little images.
Right. Like my pace is up to me.
And maybe that's what frustrates me. That's a good.
Yeah. Pace is not up to you.
Pace is not up to you. I like that as an observation.
I mean, I don't like the experience, but I like the observation which says this is frustrating.
Right. You're you're unable to control the rate at which you go.
You cannot control F a video.
No, no. The best that I've gotten is that I just have like speed up tools that let me move it like, you know, two times video speed.
And then you're literally ignoring most of the text.
Yeah. Or like you're relying on some kind commentator person who lists out the timestamp.
And like, thank you, Lord, that this answer I was looking for was a 57 second mark.
And I would have had to sit through this whole thing. But now I just need to click this one thing.
Like, thank you.
I think that's a huge thing in like especially tech related videos.
I imagine this is elsewhere, too. It's probably what you're talking about.
There's all that intro stuff. There's like a I don't know if this was a running joke or something, but it was real.
It was just like if you see a video that's over five minutes long for like a single question,
people just won't click on it because like it's just not it's not worth trying to hunt down the information.
And if it is five minutes long, it was automatically you jump to like a minute and a half in.
You just you don't even listen to the first second.
And also like you. But it's a good teaching philosophy, right?
To set up the background, to set up the question before you actually go into the solving part of the questions.
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Right. You just want the answer.
Yeah. The way we use this form of teaching, we just want quick fixes and are not interested,
most of the time, at least in the fundamentals of how plumbing in America works.
And I don't need to know that there are three types of toilet tanks that are like are at the majority of American households.
I don't need to know that. But in fact, as a person providing the tutorial,
it makes a whole lot of sense to like identify these three major types and let the viewer choose which one it is.
And then jump to that one. But like I'm just you're like, Bob, I just need to stop my toilet from overflowing.
I cannot be watching this. Bob, you're doing this again.
This is like the third video I've gone to and you spend way too much time on this.
Like, yeah. And there's probably a sweet spot, right?
Of offering enough information, content and also being minimal in the time to explain that.
And yeah, I guess, you know, we're just too impatient and we want quick fixes.
And yeah, I wouldn't be frustrated at looking for this quick fixes in a text format because I know how fast I can read.
And that's only so fast. And yeah, that's that's just how it is.
But all of a sudden, when it comes to video format, I'm like, I know these are the sort of cop the crap and just get to my answer.
And I get annoyed at it. So, yeah, funny, funny thought really on this.
Yeah, maybe maybe it's not that I don't like video format media. It's just that I don't like video tutorial.
Yeah, I mean, I figured you like some video media, but yeah, it sounds like very specifically tutorial for a number of fair reasons.
I enjoy a video when I'm not expecting him to teach me anything.
Yeah. Yeah. OK. Yeah, that's fair. Right.
Yeah. Like cute cats. I'm not trying to learn a lesson from cute cats.
I'm just here for the joy. I'm just here for the joy. That's it.
I want this joy to last long. I want to watch more of your cute, disproportionate cat.
So, yeah, if they've listened this far into this episode, I think they deserve a cat video.
They do deserve to brighten their day.
All right.
That's it for the show today.
Thanks for listening and find us on X at Ego de Science.
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