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This episode I wanted to talk about maybe about ballet people and ballet people in science
especially. So I have been a long time ballet dancer completely at the hobby level
but it's one of those hobbies that I'm like なんか熱心にやりすぎて辞め時を見失っている子供の頃からの長い習い事 I somehow thought it was beyond like a hobby level.
Okay, at one point it was pretty serious. But that's because when I told my mom
and like you know I probably went to like my friend's happy okay or something right it's
like I want to do that too and my mom just looked up yellow page and like the closest ballet studio
and that one ended up being a very very serious one just you know but my mom can't tell you know
what's what's a serious ballet studio from not so you just went in and then it was accidentally
very intense oh yeah so up until about 13 or 14 I did a pretty serious ballet you know
three four times a week plus more rehearsals so that's a pretty busy life I didn't really do any
other 習い事 aside from that I mean I did maybe like very chill English but that's about it and
I had no homework from that習い事 I just had school and ballet and now it's just you know I
I've sort of given up on that professional track but at pretty early age I think you know ballet
makes you think that if you're not brilliant when you're 12 you have no future which is so not true
but you know they they had me believe in that so I decided I'm not caught for it and then
uh started doing something else but I kept you know when I realized that I can do ballet for fun
when I can do this without worrying about am I gonna be able to make it as a professional
it actually became more fun and it's been sticking with me ever since and um so now I go to ballet
two to three times a week it's an open class so all levels included everyone from super beginner
people to people who are like semi-professionals sometimes professionals come to my class and it's
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really I really like that environment and my ballet teacher told me like after you know going
to the class consistent like the new new studio consistently for about a few months she's like
do you do you do math or do you do science like you dance like a logical person dances
and I never thought about it that way but I mean you know it just so happened that I do do science
and um that made me wonder if there is people certain type of people that ballet or dancing
in general um attracts about scientists you know um the one thing I can think about is what we
like a lot of ballet dancer life is like looking at the mirror and um adjusting tiny tiny details
like kind of investigating you know what the angle of the of your arm angle of your arms your fingers
or like you know what small things can you do to improve your balance improve your technique
you know what sort of like small small muscles are you tapping into and that process is very
sort of self-investigative because teachers can only help you so much they're just guidance
and you really have to dig into your body because you know your teacher doesn't have your body she
doesn't know what it feels like to be dancing in your body so you really have to dig into yourself
and um maybe that kind of reflective nature and not minding super jimmy sagio all the time yeah
like for that fleeting moment on stage maybe maybe that's also kind of like
you know
yeah I agree it's uh it's similar to rock climbing it's you know digging into
you're a big rock climber uh yeah I used to do a lot it was really fun you have to you know think
about how to use your body like the it's even about the angle of your arm and your legs and
how to shift your weight um yeah on the wall and it's it's just the communications
between the wall and your body and it's very jimmy
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so you think about the route to get to a certain point like there's the goal and you think about
how you you switch your arms and your legs and uh yeah and yeah it's it's it's quite similar to
how you approach the data data set you know and then interesting yeah yeah and also I think I mean
this is maybe I can only speak for classical ballet training but you know if you're serious
you do this for many many years uh only to improve by like tiny bit yeah every time you know
it's it's not you know once you finish that growth sprout of you know initial first few years where
you know you do you get better every lessons the rest of it is like a lot of having to face
the no progress for a long period of time right and and that what matters yeah yeah actually like
whether it's a good thing or not I'm not sure but um I definitely can't say that I'm tenacious
to say the least yeah yeah yeah so that's that's another thing about ballet and um
um and it's true I've met some of my best friends through ballet studio who are also very
like can't use the academic minded people yeah do you know like many scientists who who
who do ballet dancing uh not personally but I do know that um a lot of dancers
uh end up in very very prestigious universities like you would think that these people who
you know spend most of the high schools in dance studio and not in a classroom are like gonna have
a hard time transitioning from that life to university but actually they're so used to
juggling so many things you know we do homeworks at the back of mom's car and like you know you
get used to these things so actually these people become really really successful uh if they can
apply that like kind of organization that kind of uh tenacity and uh hard working work ethics
to academic endeavors they become really successful but so I don't know like an example
of like a ballet dancer but I think um I think I do know many scientists who have very unscientific
hobby yeah the rock climbing is very popular amongst US scientists academic population it's
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almost like a tech thing too yeah yeah I know a lot of scientists who who do rock climbing yeah
in Japan as well not in Japan uh we don't have many places where you can do rock climbing um
because uh I think because the land is limited and are you talking about oh bouldering is more
yeah it's more more popular yeah oh so you prefer the top rope yeah top rope yeah I see I see I like
it better um but still it's it's not it's hard it's hard and I hurt my neck I hurt my
back and one of my friends um she broke her leg yikes yeah yeah yeah I maybe two two of my friends
wow yeah I've tried rock climbing for fun uh you know a friend of mine got really into it so
he dragged me to go into the gym and I've been there what three or four times and they keep
telling me that I need to be consistent in order to be fun and in my head I fully understand that
because that's the same for ballet like you have to be consistent even if you suck for the first few
months at least you know in order to overcome the initial difficulties and when it becomes fun
but I couldn't make it I was just like I think I was doing it all wrong I was trying to brute force
you know I was just like gonna climb and see if I can make it I wasn't thinking it through I was not
I was not planning my routes per se so yeah it didn't stick with me but I know that it does for
a lot of people and yeah it's interesting I think it's it's a pretty scientist nerds
friendly hobby because you know you don't have to be athletic in a conventional sense
to enjoy climbing I mean you know when you become like elite climbing level you are
then you have to be fit right but you know just to enjoy you don't have to be super athletic
and it's not very cardio intensive stuff so you have time to think it's not all muscles
so I think maybe that's why it's like you know nerdy people friendly yeah
yeah all right that sounds like it's a good place to stop yeah that's it for the show today
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