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So, Asami, I wanted to ask you, how do you find, you know, interesting podcasts?
What do you look for?
That's a really good question because I think that is one of the biggest hurdles in the podcast media.
The fact that it's kind of hard to learn about other podcasts.
Because if it's any other social network type things, you get recommended things, right?
And I am yet to find a podcast platform, whether it's Google podcast or Apple or Pocketcast, which is what I like to use, that has good recommendation algorithm.
Partly, I think it's kind of hard to recommend different podcasts because the information, the 音声データ might be harder for algorithms to purge the two parts.
Or like, I feel like the criteria for what people like about different podcasts is less well-defined than, let's say, Instagram pictures or tweets.
Where, you know, algorithms like text-based algorithms have developed so much that they can learn and tag podcasts and can recommend you a pretty accurate sets of what you will be interested.
But I just feel like it's not happening, at least in the same level as the image or text-based media.
Having said that, really, the best way is human recommendation.
I just, you know, have friends recommend me like, oh, do you listen to this podcast? XYZ.
Or when people talk about, oh, I heard this on podcast, where did you hear it from?
And then once you have enough number of podcasts, I usually go then from like ads that are in the podcast.
Usually, well, it's not always, I guess.
Sometimes they're recommending a podcast, a 番組 made by the same people that's hosting the ad, but it's a different project.
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Or like, it's made by the same group of people, like same kind of media company.
And they usually try and talk about how, oh, if you like listening to our show, check this other podcast called blah, blah, you know.
And sometimes that works, sometimes that doesn't.
So like once you start hearing enough number of podcasts, I feel like you get exposed to enough of those.
So that's one way.
But I still prefer the human recommendation, I think.
Have friends who like to listen to podcasts and like just share information about what they've been listening to recently.
Because my choice is very eclectic.
So I have one, two, three, four, five, five or six or so news podcasts.
I like to sort of diversify my news source.
And since I don't really have TV, or read newspapers, or really, I don't really go to internet to look for news either.
So podcast is like a main source.
And I listen to both like, I guess I'm not listening to Japanese news podcast.
So I guess if anybody has a good recommendation, I would be down for that.
So I have those.
And then I have a bunch of like, oshaberike podcast.
But actually not that much.
This is like maybe 5% of my entire podcast where it's like, like just usually two or three friends talking.
Recently, I found this one called and I only listened to a few episodes.
So I don't know if I like it or not.
It's called the rooftop pod.
And it's three siblings, like two brothers and one sister talking about life.
Like the sibling dynamics is really wholesome.
Yeah.
It's really like hohoemashi.
And then I have, but majority of my listening list is kind of research heavy ones.
So it's historical research or natural sciences or sci-fi, music, different areas of random things that I'm interested in.
But they're very like, they have a team of people researching and they have been fact checked.
And they go around listening to it.
Like inquiring minds too?
Yeah, inquiring minds.
Actually that's hosted by, I don't know where she teaches.
I want to say it's UCLA, but I could be wrong.
Ingrid, she's a professor of neuroscience.
And if I remember correctly, she studies the neuroscience of music.
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Why people like certain music or what effect does music education have to like brains and stuff.
So her research is super interesting.
And she, I think is one of the OG academic podcasters, like from like many, many years ago.
And she's still going.
Okay.
Yeah, those are good ones.
Or like ThruLine, that's an NPR history podcast.
That's kind of like Goten Radio, but English.
What is it called?
ThruLine.
ThruLine.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's historical podcast definitely with American perspective.
Although the two hosts are immigrants to America.
So there's a little bit of that.
But they have very interesting, thorough research done on a lot of things, a range of topic of history.
And I really like those.
I strangely really like music analysis podcasts.
And Switched on Pop, Stand Partners for Life.
They're all like music education type.
And they like go full on musical analysis.
Like why this harmony sounds nice to you.
Or like, why is Beethoven's Fifth Symphony so timeless?
And things like that.
Or like, why is BTS song so catchy to you?
Like, why are some songs so catchy and some not so catchy?
So there's those as well.
Of like varying degree of seriousness.
Like some are very, very serious research.
Some are like pop research.
And then like a regular interview types, right?
Like, you know, a radio show with like interviewers.
And I also like some like series.
Like they have 12 episodes and that's it.
Yeah.
Like about very specific topic.
Like I listen to, I don't even like football that much.
Like soccer.
Yeah.
And I really enjoy this NPR podcast called La Ultima Coppa.
And it's about like Messi's final World Cup.
Like why is Messi so legendary?
And like the producer who is also an immigrant from Argentina.
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Like weaved in her own personal stories to Messi's story.
And that was like very, very interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So many, so many different kinds.
Right.
Between like musics that I love to listen to and podcasts.
I don't have enough hours in a day to consume audio media.
Yeah.
And I love Japanese podcasts too.
Like it's only been recent, but I've started exploring that, you know, world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that made me remember that, you know, when I was listening to Sounds Like A Cult
and there is an episode about the cult of Wall Street.
And then there was a professional.
She's a professional of stocks and the economy and Wall Street.
And then she recently started her own podcast.
So I was going to listen to her podcast.
And yeah, that's one way to, you know, find a new potentially interesting one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like guests to the podcast that you already listened to.
That's definitely another way to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I feel like I only know like 0.001% of the entire podcast universe.
There are so many, especially in English speaking language.
Yeah.
There's way too many.
Yeah.
So many.
Like from really good ones and really just like dudes in a basement talking.
Yeah.
There's so many of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's so many of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe it's helpful to like share that.
Like, you know, what I like and why I like on like Twitter or something once in a while.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe think about that.
Yeah.
That'd be great.
That's it for the show today.
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