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I think you should challenge her the next time you see her.
Be like, 100 meters right now. Let's go.
Back to 2AM OTTACK! I'm your host Mayu, a born and raised Japanese non-otaku, and...
I'm Cisco, an American otaku.
In this podcast, we share our reviews of anime and manga through our distinct perspectives with commentary on Japanese culture, history, and language.
Cisco, we just watched this new movie came out in America, and it came out in Japan about a month ago, which I was waiting for to watch.
And it's not gonna be in the theater for a long time.
No, I think three days around here?
Maybe three to five to six.
It's not very long.
It's not very long, so I wanted to make sure that we watch it.
Yeah.
So we are going to talk about...
HyakuM. 100 meters.
I think 100 meters is the title in English.
In English, yeah.
No spoilers, right?
I mean, this is a movie that it's kind of hard to spoil, don't you think?
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, like, okay, I guess we won't tell you who wins each race, but I feel like that's literally the only spoilers we could even possibly give you.
Right, and I don't think it's the important part of the movie.
Right, exactly.
It's not... who won is not that important.
I mean, I actually, I'm gonna disagree with that.
Okay.
And I think who won is important, but we will take pains not to say it.
Okay.
Also, we're gonna talk about Word of the Day.
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Then we're gonna say something exciting about our podcast.
Our Japanese podcast.
Not 2AMONTAC, but 3AMONTAC.
There's like a big thing happened to us.
Yes, that's true.
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映画『HyakuM. 100メートル』のレビュー
All right, let's talk about the movie, Hyakuenmu 100m.
Okay.
What did you think?
I loved it.
You loved it?
It was so good.
Yeah.
It was amazing.
Why was it so good?
I think it's just really good as a movie.
And particularly as an animated movie, it plays with so many different types of animation.
It's really not like a straightforwardly typical Japanese animated movie.
It's kind of like an arthouse movie.
It is playing with some elements of film as a medium in some really interesting ways,
and particularly animated film as a medium in some ways, without letting that experimentation override the point of the story.
And instead, the craft and the art is in service of advancing the narrative and making you really feel it.
And so it's simultaneously a very interesting movie to watch as a film, and just a great movie to watch for entertainment.
So I loved it.
Okay.
I don't think the comics are sold in America, or the last time I checked, I couldn't find any.
Interesting.
So it's not out here.
It hasn't been translated or something, maybe, or published in the U.S.?
Yeah.
So could you give a summary?
Without spoiling anything?
Without spoiling anything.
Sure.
So there's a boy who's very fast at running, and he meets another boy who is not very fast at running, and trains him a little bit.
And then they are separated briefly.
物語の起源
It follows the first boy through his middle and high school years, and eventually they meet again.
And then there's another time skip of 10 more years after the end of high school.
And then there's a third act that happens when they're both full-on adults, like 28-ish.
Yeah, and it's about running.
It's about running the 100 meters.
It's a really interesting point to write about, I think.
Do you mean that particular type of race?
Yeah, 100 meters.
I've heard some interview of Uoto, the author of Hyakuenma.
He decided to make this manga because one day he was watching the Olympic Games.
Okay.
And it was 100 meters race.
And Uoto doesn't do any sports.
He's not great at sports.
Feel that.
But he was watching.
And when he was watching, one athlete from some country did frying.
Had a false start.
False start.
And then that athlete got disqualified.
And Uoto was like, what?
It's such a big event.
Olympic comes every four years.
And this athlete worked so hard for this moment.
Oh, yeah.
And just one second or some seconds, he can't be on the race anymore.
Yeah.
So he decided to make it as a story.
Which is interesting because that doesn't happen in this story.
Doesn't happen.
I mean, I guess that's a spoiler, right?
Nobody gets disqualified for false starts.
Yeah.
I mean, I still get sort of the idea.
There's definitely some moments toward the climax of the film that are engaged with that question
of sort of like what happens when.
Right.
Dot, dot, dot.
But like.
Yeah.
But interesting that he chose not to include that particular situation in the film.
But some character was saying like depends on like it's.
Oh, no.
The national record holder was saying when he was got interviewed, like a little bit
of a gram differences make difference.
Sure.
That's true.
You know, second make differences.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that was, I think, true for athlete or sports, which matters a lot.
Right.
Yeah.
劇場での体験
I mean, when we went to the theater, there are not so many people at the first place.
It was it was a big improvement on Witch Watch and Don to Don.
Like this one, it was admittedly in a very small theater.
It's not playing in very many theaters.
And we had to drive kind of far away to get to this.
But there were like six people in the row behind it.
I think every back row was full.
Our row only had one empty seat.
The row in front of us had like half the seats were filled.
It was a small theater.
There were only two rows ahead of that.
So like, yeah, they didn't sell out.
But like they got pretty close.
Not bad for a 4pm on a Sunday matinee of like an unheard of anime movie.
Just saying.
Yeah.
I think if you're going, you got to know about it.
Yeah.
I think you I don't know how you wind up watching this movie unless you know about
or been like really loved or like that feels like the main entry point for people
coming to this film.
Right.
I mean, that's the that's the reason why we decided to go.
We loved Orb so much.
Maybe we're just projecting.
But yes, that does seem to be the main reason.
I mean, has he has he drawn anything else that's really famous besides Orb?
No.
キャラクターの哲学
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there you go.
This is his debut series.
Oh, this is the first thing he drew.
Oh, wow.
As a series.
As a series.
Yeah.
So it's a big deal.
Sure is.
So there are many interesting characters.
Is there any character you particularly liked or relate to?
Yeah.
No, not relate to really.
But I mean, I sort of liked all of them.
And as you would expect from Uoto, like every character has like a deep philosophy about
life.
Yes.
Right.
And so I did like the guy Zaitsu.
Zaitsu?
Zaitsu.
Zaitsu.
I was going to say Zaitsu first, and then I got confused with Saitsu.
Zaitsu says something.
It's in that interview that you talked about earlier where he's like, the hundred meters
is like your whole life distilled into 10 seconds.
And I thought that was like a very interesting way of thinking.
For a lot of the characters, you know, the running has to do with like, what are you
running for?
What are you running away from?
Like, you know, why do you run?
And like, I am the kind of runner who like cannot answer that question.
In fact, every time I pose that question to myself, like, why am I running?
My answer is like, yeah, why am I running?
I can just walk.
Why?
I'm just going to slow down like this sucks.
So in that sense, I had a hard time relating to any of the characters.
Like if there had been a character who had like quit running and just been like, you
know what?
Like it's not worth it.
Like I would've been like, oh yeah, that guy, that's me.
But I think I liked Nigami maybe the best of the runners in part because maybe it's because
he hurt his back.
I related to that part.
I thought they were all really interesting and I liked the way this movie resisted having
kind of good guys and bad guys like they're just all runners.
Yeah.
I liked hearing their different philosophies.
It was cool.
I think we can call it sports anime or manga.
Oh, definitely.
Yeah.
But it's way more than sports manga and anime because it's not like about friendship or
like teamwork or nothing like this.
Yeah.
It's like this new type, completely new style of like a sports, I don't know, philosophy
type.
I mean, I do think running the hundred meters is a pretty individual endeavor.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean, they, this movie does have a moment where, uh, of collaboration where some characters
run a four, what, 200 times, 200 times for relay.
So that's a moment of like some, you know, and there's like a montage in there and stuff
that shows like collaboration and teamwork and stuff.
But yeah, you're right that it's not kind of the main point.
It didn't go to the direction of like falling in love or, you know, in the team or building
up friendship.
I mean, I think there's a, there's a level on which it has something to say about friendship
or about connection, but no, I think it's about like philosophy.
That seems to be really what it's about.
And it's, it's, I don't, I don't know.
I would not have thought of it as like a sports manga or anime at all, really.
It's a philosophy anime that just happened to be, it happens to like have a sport as
it's setting.
Yeah, exactly.
映画の音響とアニメーション技術
Oh yeah.
I liked sound effects and the music was perfect.
Yeah.
The music and sound in this film is really, really good.
Really good.
Uh, which son did you like the best?
Uh, the, the rain, the match that happens in the rain is just like very powerful.
Sonically.
And that whole, that whole scene is just epic.
Like the art is really good.
Sort of camera work is really good.
It's a scene that involves having like, you know, that's rotoscoped.
So they actually filmed it and then they drew it after filming.
And the last rotoscoped film I saw was waking life, which is an animated film.
I mean, it's obviously cause it's rotoscoped, right?
But animated film where it really looks like a regular movie that somebody drew over.
And in this one, what I thought was so interesting about the rotoscoped scenes is like, you can
kind of tell that they're rotoscoped, but I wasn't totally sure about it even when I
was watching them because the, the art style is still very anime.
And so, you know, there's these scenes where it's being shot with like a handheld camera
and like the camera is like really moving around in some, you know, in ways where I
think the first couple of times they used this technique in the movie, I was like, is this
like really elaborate CG?
How did they make this?
And then finally in that, in the rain scene, you're like, oh, this is, this has been rotoscoped
and there really was a camera that was moving around in these ways.
The conceit of having like a movie that's all one really long shot, which is like a thing
in art movies, right?
You don't see that very often in anime.
There's usually a lot of really quick cuts.
And so getting a shot that goes on for, I don't know, probably two, three minutes is
really unusual and very, very cool in terms of the way that the camera is moving and like
how it picks up and loses the subjects.
And like, there's some Foley of people running during it and stuff like, it was just, it
was fantastic.
The end of that scene also goes from color into black and white in a way that's just
like, oh my God.
I feel like I've never seen anything like this before.
It's just, it's perfect.
It's perfect.
And the raining, just the sounds of rain, like heavy, heavy rain.
So loud.
You know?
And then like, there's been this really intense music for the whole scene and then the music
just cuts out and it's just rain.
Like it's, I don't know, like it was spectacular.
It was like, it was a much better movie than, you know, like I kept thinking about Kimetsu
no Yaiba while we were watching this movie, like Kimetsu no Yaiba is so slick, right?
Everything looks so good.
It's like so finished and perfect and like computer generated.
And this one is like the opposite of all of those things.
Like in some of the early scenes, the backgrounds are like really blurry, right?
Clearly like hand painted, maybe even like watercolor or something like they're not,
you know, they're not inked there.
They're like drawn in these like wildly different styles.
Like a lot of the art of the characters looks really almost indistinguishable from manga.
Like there are scenes that look straight out of a manga and then others that are, you
競技の思い出
know, rotoscoped.
So the style changes and when particularly when there's anxiety on the part of any of
the characters, the characters like outlines start to break down and get like scribbly and
sort of like, you know, unwell defined in a way that's like really fascinating.
So just so many things about this movie were really interesting.
Like I had the experience of watching it and feeling like I was thinking about it as a movie
and like the ways in which it was like different from other movies as I watched it in a way
that was like surprisingly pleasurable.
I personally liked the last scene right before it really starts.
Heartbeat.
It was like getting really loud as it getting close to the start.
And you can feel it on your feet even.
Oh, interesting.
It shakes a little bit and I like the like intense moment.
Wait, what shakes?
The theater.
Oh, I didn't.
I didn't notice this.
Okay.
I felt it on my body because it was getting the sound was getting louder, right?
I like that.
And especially I was struck in field from fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh and eighth.
Yeah.
It's not because I wanted to because it's because I was in a small school and the teacher
just picks like, you know, kids who can run fast, right?
So you got you, you, you, you're going to be in the trucking field only this season.
So I was a hundred meters, a three runner.
Wow.
Yeah.
I was not that fast.
I was like, I was running like a hundred meters in 14 seconds.
That's the, I have no idea what that means, but I've always heard you tell the story as
though you were really fast.
I was fast in my class on my grade.
How many people were in your grade?
30.
Yeah.
Okay.
So there's an always fastest girl.
There's always a faster fish.
And I was, I always try to beat her, but I just couldn't.
She was always the first and I couldn't even beat her in marathon either until the eighth
grade too.
How far were your marathons?
I don't know how the distance.
Okay.
Well, I think you mean like cross country because marathon is 26 miles.
Okay.
Full elementary school kids is marathon.
I'm not disputing that it felt like a marathon to you.
I'm just saying when you say marathon in English, you mean 26.2 miles.
Yeah.
I'm sure it was like a 5k or something and it felt really long, but like an actual marathon
might kill an elementary schooler.
So I don't think it was an actual marathon.
Okay.
Whatever our school called it marathon.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm not trying to say this is 2 AM.
Okay.
You got to like whose terms English people will understand.
Okay.
Got it.
Got it.
Yeah.
I have the feeling of a Kaido who seems like a kind of older side of like runner.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's cool.
And I, we totally liked the voice actor, which is the same voice actor from the Orb.
From Orb.
Novak.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was awesome.
But like, it's so frustrating that there's always like person in front of you.
And it's like, in a way, it's like good way to encourage yourself.
If you want to go even faster, I'm going to beat her.
Sure.
Which I couldn't.
I was not that serious.
I bet if you ran right now, you'd win.
No, no, no.
I don't know.
We are both old.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
I don't know if she, I don't think she runs anymore.
I don't, I don't run.
I think you should challenge her the next time you see her be like a hundred meters right
now.
Let's go.
But yeah, I remember the, those like really intense, you know, nervous time would be right
before you start.
And there are like so many kids who are so, if we can run so fast.
Right.
Yeah.
So it kind of reminded me of the time in school days.
Sure.
Yeah.
フライングスタートの考察
What's today's word of the day?
Flying.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Because it's not English.
Well, it is.
I mean, flying is an English word, but I just think it's fascinating that somehow false
start didn't become the word for false start.
And instead Japanese uses flying.
I don't know.
It's frying or flying.
It's definitely not frying because nobody's getting fried, but it's probably flying, flying.
I think Japanese people think it's like an English word.
It is an English word.
It's just not.
Okay.
So there is such thing as a flying start in English.
I think, I think the most like the, you know, the most reasonable assumption of like, how
did we get this with this word flying, right?
To mean false start is either that maybe there is something that's called a flying false start
or a flying start, like, and that I actually have never heard that term.
So as far as I know, that is not in fact a thing.
I can definitely imagine like someone saying like flying off the blocks and thinking of
that as meaning like you went too early, but I'm going to have to come and say, I don't
really know.
And I don't trust the AI summary because none of the links go back to like what the AI very
persuasively told me, which was that there might be such thing as a flying start where
you're already moving when the thing starts, when the, like, you know, when you're like
in a cycling and driving and stuff, you know, you're already moving when the race starts,
you're not like at a full stop.
And so I guess in, in a way, if you start before the gun goes off, like you're cheating
because you're already moving right before it like began.
But yeah, I just, I just don't understand why it's not false start and why it's flying
instead.
Yeah.
Just made up.
Or just, yeah.
Or just somebody thought it sounded cool, which it does.
Okay.
Maybe we shouldn't use this as word of the day.
陸上競技の語源
Our other word of the day is Rikujo.
And what does this mean?
Track and field.
But like literally it means on the land, on the land or above the land.
And that's all.
So like on land games.
And I was thinking this, I haven't like, I, again, we tried to search for the, or I tried
badly to search for the etymology of this and did not come up with anything.
But my supposition is that in the Olympics, there are a lot of water events, diving, swimming,
rowing, et cetera, things that are in or on the water.
And so my guess is that Rikujo came about as a term in response to specifically Olympic
events because they feel like, I don't think they're half and half, but it feels like there
are a lot of water ones.
And so this was meant to specifically express the ones that are not happening in the water.
映画『百点満点』の推奨
That's, that's my official guess.
If anybody knows, if anybody has better research skills than us and can tell us definitively
where the term flying for false starts in Japanese or Rikujo came from, I would love
to know.
Okay.
Is there anything you'd like to add about a hundred meters?
You should go see this movie.
It's really good.
Yes.
It's very limited.
I hope they're going to, they will stream in some streaming services later so that everybody
can enjoy.
But I mean, like, I think you should try to see this movie in a theater.
It's got enough elements that are really worth seeing on a big screen and it's like, you
know, with the sound and stuff, like in a, in a theater with a really powerful sound
system to make it like a worthwhile theatrical experience.
Not just something like watch on like your phone or a computer screen.
Yeah.
Even like a Dolby.
Dolby sound.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Probably.
Okay.
ポッドキャスト賞への応募
So before we end the episode, there's an announcement to make.
Do it.
So we have another podcast called Three Game Attack, which we all talk about kind of the
same stuff, all in Japanese.
So we've been doing as long as we're doing Three Game Attack.
And this year I, you decided to enter ourselves, our podcast Three Game Attack to podcast star
award.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's the second time to have this.
That it's been awarded.
It's been awarded.
I think I decided to like, you know, casually apply to ourselves thinking maybe it's a good,
great opportunity to just be on the list.
Sure.
So because like you, once you entered it, you can see participants like, uh, episodes,
you have to put out one episode from your podcast.
And I put a look back episode we did last year, I think, which was my favorite.
So I was like, it'd be nice.
Like if other people can see, just check out episode or podcast.
And then there's like, uh, three awards they offer.
And then one of them is like, listeners can vote, which like probably I can do something
about it.
Like telling friends, right.
Or listeners, please.
Well, I mean, I didn't do that much.
Like I kept forgetting to say that on the podcast, like it didn't really help.
But I asked my friends, just my friends, like, I don't have many friends thinking like, you
know, like I won't hurt, you know, asking Dan and they were really like nice about it,
even though they don't listen.
Yeah.
I knew they don't listen, but like, they were nice about it.
So those people say like, oh, I, I voted on October 10th at 10 AM.
There was an announcement.
I was a little bit antsy to check that results, like thinking maybe this nerds award.
So I checked it and I realized 3MO Talk was on the website as a, like a, how do you say
it?
Grand prize.
Grand prize, which was awarded from judges.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Which is a total surprise.
I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm proud of our podcast and I think we do, you know, we do our best.
Oh, I think it's, I think it's 99% you're editing because I sound like a total idiot
most of the time, especially in Japanese.
Like, I feel like I can barely speak Japanese.
I mean, same here, me in English.
It's mostly your editing that's, uh, that's to, to credit for, for us having done at all
グランプリ獲得の喜び
well with this.
Yeah.
So there are 218 or 19 podcasts and then we won the grand prize.
Hell yeah.
So we are really, really happy about it, especially with the episode we talked about is look back
and the author of look back, Tatsuki Fujimoto, who is famously known the author of Chainsaw
Man, which we're going to see in two more weeks, right?
And then I am from the same prefecture as Tatsuki Fujimoto, and we all talk about like
hometown and stuff.
So like, it means a lot personally to me, right, right, right.
So yeah, you should keep listening to 2AMOTOX.
If you can speak Japanese, consider 3AMOTOX.
Yeah.
So yeah, it was, it was a nice surprise and then we are proud of what we do.
Hell yeah.
I'm, I mean, I feel like I can't take very much credit for this, but I am super proud
of you.
Like you put a lot of hard work into making this podcast and, uh, entering that competition.
So I'm also proud that we won, but mostly I'm proud of you.
I'm not that competitive.
Like if I wasn't, okay, I'm competitive, but I was not trying to, I was not trying to win.
I was not trying to win for this one.
And I was like, there's no way they were like, we won the Hyakka Emma podcast race.
Then I realized, okay, I am a competitive, you know, I'm just like one of those athletes,
not sports, but like podcast, whatever I try, I'm that's me.
Yes.
You are competitive at anything you try.
Yeah.
So I'm happy and just wanted to share the news.
Congratulations.
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