日本の文化とパフォーマンス
Welcome to 英語で雑談！Kevin’s English Room Podcast.
こんにちは。
こんにちは。
こんにちは。
私はあなたの質問を聞きたいと思っています。
私はあなたの質問を聞きたいと思っています。
私たちは音楽について話しました。
そして国々。
そして背景。
確かに。
伝統。
そして文化。
そうですね。
私は世界でパフォーマンスをしたいと思います。
いつかニューヨークのマディソン・スクエア・ガーデンで。
いつか。
アイビザ。
そうですね。
そうですね。
パリス。
そうですね。
そのために、
私は2つの大きな役割があります。
一つは、
外国人が日本人を考えていること。
アニメのようなもの。
本当にかわいい。
そうですね。
パップのようなもの。
そうですね。
それが一つの役割です。
もう一つの大きな役割は、
単純に
ブルーノマーズのようなもの。
そうですね。
そうですね。
正直なもの。
日本のカードを使わないでください。
そうですね。
単純に曲とパフォーマンス。
そうですね。
そうですね。
あなたに質問したいことがあります。
あなたはアメリカに生まれ育ちましたよね?
そうですね。
私のような人たちについてどう思いますか?
アジア人のような人たち。
R&Bを歌う人たち。
ヒップホップを踊る人たち。
それはアフリカ人の文化です。
そしてそれをパフォーマンスします。
どう思いますか?
どう感じますか?
そうですね。
とても深いです。
とても深いです。
M&Mが最初に登場した時。
彼は白いです。
人々は...
彼は白いです。
なぜあなたは彼に聞いてくれますか?
彼は白いです。
でも彼の才能はとても高いです。
人々は彼を避けることができませんでした。
彼はあまりにも才能がありました。
そして彼は受け入れられました。
そして今、人々は彼を素晴らしいラッパーだと考えています。
しかし、今でも人々は...
私たちはまだそのイメージを持っています。
多くの人々はそのイメージを持っています。
黒いとしても、
素晴らしいとしても。
人々はそのようなイメージを持っています。
それはとても難しいことになると思います。
私はそれを本当に理解しています。
彼らは歴史や背景を持っています。
彼らはその文化を育てています。
彼らはそれに対抗しなければなりません。
私はそれに恥ずかしみを持っていません。
私はそれに尊敬を持っていません。
私はそれに尊敬を持っています。
私はその音楽が大好きです。
私はそれがどのように感じられるか知りたいです。
あなたは安心しているでしょうか?
もし外国人が完全にお笑い芸人だったとしたら、
もし彼は完全に外国人だったとしたら、
彼が本当に上手な仕事をしているとしたら、
彼は彼の価値を持っています。
でも私はあなたの心の中にあることを感じます。
でも私はあなたの心の中にあることを感じます。
外国のアーティストの影響
もしそれはタブーのようなものだとしても、
私はそれを感じます。
私はそれを感じます。
私はそれを感じます。
多分それは一部が欠けているかもしれません。
多分...
私はそう思います...
彼はとてもレイシャルです。
多分それは違反的なものであるかもしれません。
ということは、
私は分かっています。
私はそれを与えることが難しいです。
でも...
多分あなたの一部は...
多分それらの人にとって...
多分それは一部が欠けているかもしれません。
それは起きることができるでしょう。
確かに。
Even like the Osumo-san, Osumos, that's Kokugi, right? Japanese force, you know, like Asashoryu or like Akebono-san,
they became like Yokozunas, and then people were like, why foreigners?
Okay, true.
Ah, Yokozuna.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's what I heard when they became, so yeah.
Yeah.
I guess it's a really kind of close feeling.
Yeah.
More historical it gets, the more backlash you'll have, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Realistically.
Yeah.
Like ideally, and like politically, that should never be a barrier.
Right, right, right, right.
But I guess on a realistic level, I guess that might happen.
Yeah.
Because even Bruno Mars, he sings kind of R&B and soul hip-hop songs, right?
Yeah.
But he was like born in Hawaii, Filipino heritage.
Yeah.
And then people criticize him as he's not authentic.
I see.
I see.
Authentic R&B.
Yeah.
And I saw that and like, wow, it's, man, it's deep.
Yeah.
That is deep.
Yeah.
That is very deep.
Yeah.
That's true.
Like you mentioned about Eminem.
Yeah.
The quality beats everything kind of.
Yeah.
He's now like established.
That's right.
Yeah.
His style.
So I guess that's the key.
And also the amount of your respect to that culture.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
For example, like a no.
Yeah.
Just somebody came to your no place and just randomly like chewing gums and like this.
Right.
And then obviously we're not going to welcome that.
Yeah.
But if he's really like deeply like respecting studies and everything and do like, you know.
Right.
We'll be welcoming that.
Right.
So maybe that.
That's true.
That's true.
But yeah, I want to know how in reality, you know, if I sing Stevie Wonder.
Yeah.
And how they like honestly.
Yeah.
In local level, you know.
Like I know there's several like K-pop groups that does rap.
Yeah.
That raps, that does R&B.
And they're very popular amongst the K-pop fans.
Okay.
Okay.
But are the people that are listening to Kendrick Lamar in America.
Are the people that are listening to what?
Eminem maybe?
Sure.
音楽とアイデンティティの融合
Eminem.
Yeah.
Snoop Dogg.
Sure.
Snoop Dogg.
Lil Nas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are those people listening to the rappers of the K-pop girls group?
Probably not.
Okay.
So.
Okay.
But they're, you know, they're very, but they are listened to a lot.
Their play count is very high.
Charts.
Yeah.
So.
You can be successful in that realm, I guess, but you won't have listeners from the, I guess.
I don't know.
But I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's difficult though.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
So.
Yeah.
Few years ago.
Yeah.
I was more like into that way.
Yeah.
One of the authentic R&B or soul singers.
But, you know, more and more get inside.
I've got like respect for the histories and everything.
I feel like I'm Japanese, like ultimately.
Yeah.
I've never lived in, you know, in a hood or that deeply in the culture.
Yeah.
So I, well, in other words, I have to be proud of my background at the same time.
And yeah.
But at the same time, I love those music.
Yeah.
And what I'm trying to do is like kind of mix all together.
Yeah.
But it's a big, big table.
Yeah.
You're trying to gain street credit, right?
Yeah.
I guess street credit is one word that might really ascribe what you're looking for.
Huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just by being Japanese, it does kind of furthens you away from getting street credit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
From the first time.
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, really Eminem empowered me through the quality beats, you know.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know like even the Eminem level.
Yeah.
Still some parts are like.
Yeah.
Of the population.
It's like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Still.
So it's fairly difficult, I guess, to every, every 100%.
True.
Yeah.
But I guess it comes down to like, do you want the attention from the people that are
listening to the Kendrick Lamar or do you want to be successful in the R&B world or not?
Right.
I guess it's a two different like the K-pop analogy.
Right.
I guess you can say that, you know, if you look at the view counts.
Yeah.
In the R&B, I guess they have a lot of listening counts, but people of the Kendrick Lamar listeners
aren't listening to K-pop.
So do you want.
So it comes down to do you want their attention or do you want to be successful in R&B?
Or do you not consider that a success in R&B unless you get their attention?
Yeah.
True.
True.
Yeah.
But yeah.
If I imagine big, like big dream.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those like street level.
Yeah.
I want to be like listened by the people that are listening to Kendrick.
Yeah.
Right.
You know, it's a huge, huge big theme.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Yeah.
And that's why, like, for example, like Hoshino Gen, he says he's making yellow music.
Okay.
That's his theme.
Does he mean yellow by the Japanese skin color yellow?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
He's proud of that.
Okay.
Not like black R&B.
I see.
White rocks and pops, but he's making mix everything in it.
He's with all Japanese musicians background and then making his own.
I see.
Kind of.
He's reversing the yellow.
Yeah.
Yellow is used for diss.
Yeah.
Usually.
Right.
So.
Yeah.
Okay.
He's kind of reversing that.
Yeah.
That's a beautiful color.
And then be proud of that and establish that world.
I see.
That's a good concept.
Not trying to pretend to be like African-American.
Yeah.
Like white people.
Right.
Mix everything in it.
I see.
So that's one solution, I guess.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or like the Iyogosan.
Mm-hmm.
Mix the old and new.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like Korean really traditions into what slight, but.
アイデンティティの探求
Yeah.
Like trap-ish.
Yeah.
That's a good idea.
Right.
Yeah.
So.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, I wanted to know.
But it's deep, though.
It's deep.
Yeah.
It's really deep, and I still cannot figure it out.
Yeah.
Because this core solution, but.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
But I wanted to know that, you know.
Yeah.
Okay.
My thoughts on it.
Yeah.
Street level of.
Yeah.
I see.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
