バリウム検査の誤解
Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast.
So I have recently stumbled upon, came across a conversation talking about what if the 健康診断 that we're taking makes mistakes?
And that person was like, my father was doing the 健康診断, and they said it was not no problem at all, but has found out that he in fact did have cancer.
So the 健康診断, therefore, was not trustworthy, right? So I was like, oh, so that could happen.
So I've decided to do twice, twice a year, like half a year, half a year, two different places.
Yeah.
What do you think about that?
Oh, that's good.
What do you think about the strategy?
It's like what we call like second opinion in Japanese, right?
Yeah.
Do you think this is going to work?
I mean, you cannot make it like 0% of a mistake, but obviously you can, you know, reduce the possibility.
So yeah.
Sounds nice.
Do you think do people do this?
You mean, you're talking about 人間毒?
Well, no, just in general, 健康診断.
But I'm not sure about those like big 健康診断, I'm not sure, but yeah.
Some people do?
For like cancers, yeah.
Oh, okay.
It's not, well, it's not very common, I think, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, some conscious people do it.
Yeah, yeah, multiple places.
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's, I guess that's like worth.
Okay, I see.
Don't do it.
Yeah.
Okay, don't do it.
Yeah.
You have not gotten the answer from the message sender who talked about sleeping while e-camera?
Let me see.
Because that's what I'm thinking about going for my second 健康診断, you know?
I see, I see.
Hold on.
So we got many messages.
So I'm going to read message three.
Maybe not yet.
Got it.
Maybe.
I will keep patiently waiting.
Yeah.
Is that episode uploaded yet?
I don't know.
I've lost it.
Maybe not yet.
Got it.
Yeah.
I'll wait.
I'll wait.
Yeah.
Let's wait.
Did I talk to you about this?
バリウムと胃カメラの比較
So is it true that if you do the e-camera, you don't have to do the Bariumu?
Yeah, that's what I heard too.
Okay.
Which one do you prefer?
So you can do either one?
I think so.
Then I'd rather do the Bariumu.
That's so much easier.
Yeah.
That is so much easier.
That's a no-brainer.
No?
Yeah.
Well, I mean...
That is so much easier.
I mean, it's not no...
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
So much easier.
That is so much...
It's a no-brainer.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I would obviously choose the Bariumu.
100%.
But I'm not sure if Bariumu itself is like...
Oh, look how trustworthy it is?
No, I mean...
Oh, look how painful, how suffering it is.
There are people saying that Bariumu is tough.
Not the Ikamera, but the Bariumu.
Yeah, Bariumu is pretty tough.
So I'm...
But I prefer Bariumu over Ikamera.
There's fucking metal going up your throat.
I don't like that.
I hate that.
Yeah, the ideal of that.
So I obviously pick that.
But still, like it's not something...
I feel like still you're gonna have to like go through a kind of...
Are you good at not gagging?
Or are you good at like holding down your puke?
Like when you want to throw up?
I've never...
I don't know.
You've had alcohol like during your college years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You were in Nomikai.
Right.
You kind of like drank a lot.
Yeah.
And then I've seen you look like you're feeling sick.
バリウム検査のプロセス
During that times, did you ever like wanted to throw up,
but like to have held back of like not the time?
Yeah, sometimes, yes.
But I'm not sure if I'm good at it or not.
But I'm say...
I can say I'm good at puking.
You've learned that through drinking.
Yeah.
Me too, man.
Me too.
There's a kotsu, right?
There's a kotsu to doing so.
But they say it's really difficult to hold that.
And once you just, you know, made it,
and then you have to go through the whole procedure again.
You have to drink it.
Detoxing.
Yeah.
And then that's kind of...
Terrible as well.
Does that...
You're just...
You're just shitting, no?
You have to drink tons of...
I don't know.
Some kind of water.
Oh, so drinking that is kind of...
This amount and you have to drink at once and...
Especially...
Okay, I drink fast and I drink a lot.
For you, maybe that might be...
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
You have to take this and if you fail,
you have to drink that again.
And, oh, I don't drink...
I don't want to drink that anymore.
What do you fail?
I mean, you...
Oh, like burp?
Burp, yeah.
You burp it and you have to do that again.
That's terrible.
And, like, you're like...
You have water here and then you have to burp.
How bad are you at, like, not burping?
Like, holding in your burp?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I've never...
Do you know how good you are?
I think I'm pretty good at not burping.
Yeah, I drink a lot of Coke, right?
And sodas, right?
And that makes you want to burp.
But, like, I can time my burp.
You keep that?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Like, if it's not the time, I'll just keep it in.
Oh, I see.
When I'm free, I'll let it out.
So, maybe you're good at barium.
Yeah, maybe I am.
You don't have any problem at all.
Yeah.
Easily go through, maybe.
Yeah.
Are you gonna pick that, barium?
検査の選択肢
Yeah, I mean, if I had the chance, I would definitely choose barium.
Yeah, I see, I see.
But if the barium has a lower accuracy than ikamera,
then I have to weigh the pros and cons.
I see, I see.
What about in the first hospital, you're gonna have ikamera.
And then in the second hospital, you're gonna have a barium test.
Yeah, that's a...
So that you can do, like, two different angles, kind of?
True. That's a possibility.
That's a possibility.
But in that case, you're gonna have only one barium test and only one ikamera test.
So you have to do it, like, two times.
So I gotta do four in total?
Two of each?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ooh, shit.
Right, according to my theory, yes, that's what I have to do.
That's what I have to do.
Is there anything else, ikamera, barium?
Is there anything else that's, like, a major shit?
Oh, you mean in the ningen dokku?
Yeah, that you're recommended to do?
So before that, what's the difference between ikamera and barium?
Okay, yeah.
So ikamera is basically, you just see directly.
Okay, you got your camera up in there.
Yeah.
Yes.
So, um, okay.
So it could be clearer.
Got it.
The image, because you can use the actual camera, you can see actually inside.
Yes.
Barium, you take an x-ray.
Okay.
And then you test that, you see that.
バリウムと胃カメラの比較
It's an x-ray image.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you cannot see the actual, you know, kabe inside.
Right, right.
But you can see the whole soma.
Oh, I see.
Could be, like, the shape or...
Oh, I see.
You know, you got, like, whole picture.
I see.
You got, like, a 3D model of your intestine, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, um, so those two.
So it has, they both have strength?
Yeah.
I guess then.
Yeah.
I see.
But it says...
So if you do, like, x-ray barium, and then you found something, I mean, doctor found something,
next step, you're going to do the ikamera.
Ah, to make sure, like, to double check if that's actually...
What's actually happening inside.
I see.
I see.
So if you, um, yeah.
Nice.
Higher.
Yeah, more precise, I would say.
Okay.
If you want preciseness...
Then I would just stick to the ikamera.
Yeah.
I see.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So that's what...
Got it.
So those two are, like, that's the barium test.
You got the image from barium test, and that's ikamera test.
That's so much clearer.
Ikamera is so much clearer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, but you cannot see the whole, you know, like, maybe the shape different, like,
something's going on, like, yeah, and maybe, like, becoming big or, like, having too much
fat, maybe, or things like that.
That may be easier to find that way, but...
Okay.
I see.
So they both have their own upside and downside, then.
胃カメラの体験
Yeah.
I see.
Okay.
Then I guess I'll do the ikamera.
Yeah.
Got it.
I will do it.
Yep.
I'll do the ikamera.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was from Nihon Shoukaki Naishikyo Gakkai.
Mm-hmm.
That's from Beijing.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it's true.
Yeah.
It's a fact.
It's a medical fact that people hate it more.
Yes.
Than barium.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
I've been taking this medicine for my Ibo.
Okay.
It's a pretty big one, right?
It's a pretty big one.
Oh, okay.
And so I have to get in the morning and at night.
Okay.
And in the morning, you don't...
Your throat is not fully kind of...
It doesn't expand as much.
Okay.
You're sleeping.
Right.
And it's a lot.
It's a lot of pills.
Okay.
You really gotta swallow it.
Really, like, swallow it to sort of like get it down at once.
Sometimes, because it's so big and so many,
it's like you get some stuck in here when you drink the pill.
It's like...
In the middle of your...
Right in the middle of your throat.
Wow. Okay.
Yeah.
And then you would gag really hard.
Yeah.
Like, it's a reflective reaction.
You can't get ready for it.
It's just an instantaneous...
Yeah.
Right.
Can you imagine that?
Yeah.
After like a three day, three day in a row of that pill stuck in there,
I don't gag anymore.
Like, I can even hold it in there.
I should do that now.
Wow.
Do you think that...
I think so.
That means I can withstand the Ikamera, no?
I think so.
Right.
I mean, obviously...
That's basically...
Yeah.
I'm adapting to...
You're stronger than you were before.
I know, right?
I'm not gagging anymore.
So...
I mean, if you can keep the pill in the middle...
Yeah.
That's exactly...
What's happening.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have a little, you know...
The tube inside.
Tube inside.
That's right.
You have it stuck in there, right?
So if you can just keep it chill with that situation,
then you'd be able to overcome.
Wow.
No?
Don't you think?
Yeah.
I think so.
Now you're stronger.
Yeah.
Stronger now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
