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Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast!
Yay!
Okay, so we're gonna do the Google...
What do you want to name this?
The Google Let's Ask...
A good start, you know?
Yeah.
Let's Ask is a really good start.
That's nice.
Sounds like really funny.
Right.
Yeah.
We need to finish it.
Yeah.
Let's Ask Google...
Let's Ask Google.
Okay, let's go with that.
Let's Ask Google.
This is our method of...
Yeah.
We're gonna do the Let's Ask Google today.
Today.
Okay.
It's a method where...
Yeah.
Yamachan and I each come up with a letter of the alphabet and we type it in and we click the first suggestion...
Yeah.
By YouTube and we click the first website.
By Google.
And that's our first topic.
Yeah.
So Google is gonna decide.
Yes.
So Yamachan, what's your letter?
J.
I do A.
So J, A.
Yes.
So it's...
Jyaran.
Or...
I go search?
No, no, no.
You do, you do, you do.
Okay.
Right.
Okay.
So Jyaran.
Jyaran.
You just click on the first site.
All right.
Okay, so Jyaran is our topic.
Okay.
Let's talk about Jyaran today.
Because you worked in a...
Yes.
I think it really...
You know, you have knowledge on these topics, right?
Don't you?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
I was a professional.
You were a professional, right?
Yeah.
You were a coordinator?
I did.
Like, my job was kind of do almost whole things.
The whole thing?
Yeah.
Like did little a-yo.
Mm-hmm.
Also coordinate, like, the whole tour packages.
And not many times, but sometimes I go with the client and board in the same coach, same
bus.
And yeah.
Okay.
Same hotel.
Same hotel.
Okay.
Sometimes.
To experience the whole trip for the customers.
Yeah, sometimes that happens.
And sometimes spend time with client.
Because they are...
Who's your client?
My client.
Like some company members from the United Kingdom.
My client was in the United Kingdom in France.
So the company members from...
Like that was company tour.
Company tour.
Yeah, like...
So your...
Wait, so are your clients the same...
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Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Wait.
I'm a little confused here.
There's two big types of touring.
One is like usual tour, like we do.
Okay.
Individually or like group tour.
Like, you know, we apply to that tour and go with strangers in the same bus.
Tour package kind of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's one type.
And one other type is like, for example, like you were in a huge chemical company, right?
Yeah.
I don't know if they're a company tour, but if you got really nice score on your job,
then your boss will collect all that good employees and make a trip to go to Hawaii maybe, to go to onsen maybe.
Okay, okay.
That's kind of company tour.
Oh, so that means the chemical company, whoever's conducting the...
Whoever's organizing the trip within the chemical company is your client.
Yeah.
Got it.
I'm the conductor, kind of, you know.
Okay.
I make a tour with that.
Oh, so you consult with them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They come to you, be like, I want to conduct, I want to do a treat.
Like a...
Right, treating tour.
I want to treat my employees with a trip.
Yeah.
You got something?
And you would be like, okay, we can do this, this, this.
And I'm going to suggest something to them.
Got it, got it.
And they would be nice, not just like that.
Gotcha.
And you...
And in that types of touring, sometimes I go with the client.
Got it, got it, got it, got it.
And stay with them.
Got it.
Like if there's no wrong thing, everything all right, should we change something, arrange this, this, this.
Ah, got it, got it, got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So actually staying there with the employees that's being treated.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sometimes.
Was that fun?
It's tough.
Tough.
It's really tough.
Why?
What's tough?
Because it's a trading tour, so they can say literally anything they want.
Uh-huh.
So if there's some employees that I don't want to go this place, but other people say
that I have to go there.
And you know, that's tough.
But like they're not, they don't say it on the spot, right?
They do.
They say it on the spot?
Yeah.
Like I don't want to go here.
Yeah.
And you have to answer that?
I have to answer, but you know, it's a little bit complicated.
But my contract is with the boss, like coordinator of that tour in that company.
Okay.
I'm not making contract with that person.
Yes, yes, I understand.
So that person should have to say, like say his request to his boss.
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Yes.
And his boss has to say that to me.
Yes.
So it really depends on the boss of your client, right?
Yeah, yeah.
If they, if the boss would be like, if the boss was like an asshole and be like, oh no,
tomorrow I want to go here, but today I want to go there.
And then you have to answer that.
Yeah.
And that happens sometimes.
Oh, okay.
Yep.
Got it.
Got it.
That's tough.
Yeah, that's tough.
And sometimes they ask me like tomorrow, can we arrange three buses and can we go to the,
can we reserve some restaurants, which is really, you know, restaurants.
How do they not, like that doesn't really make sense to me.
Like, do they not understand that it's a difficult, like you can't suddenly ask for
a reservation at a restaurant that's really popular.
Like, did they not understand that?
Maybe.
Oh, okay.
And they're like really, you know, oh, you know, I'm the client, you know.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So that's a little bit tough.
But, but it's also fun.
Also fun.
Having time with them, go around, speak, talk to them.
Right.
Because you like meeting new people, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You like to experience the culture.
Yeah, having different culture.
And in most of cases, they are so yushu.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
So it's really fun to talk to them and, and, you know, being shared their episodes, how
they work, how about lives.
That's fun.
Okay.
So, so are you not, do you know any details on the on these kind of sites where Jadan
is really, you know, aimed for not tour packages, but like individual customers, right?
Yeah, individual.
And also they sell like, like group tours too.
Oh, they do.
But it's a little bit different, right?
The group tours that they sell here is different from what you were doing.
Yeah, yeah.
Because it's an already made package.
So there are different types.
Right.
Yeah.
So you already know where you're going to go.
Yeah.
Unlike what you did where you don't.
Right, right, right.
That's different.
Right.
Yeah.
So if you want to, so my question is if you want to preserve like a, like a, I want to
travel cheap.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, me too.
Do you have any recommendations on finding out?
Oh, right.
Like, like any good deals on here?
How do you look for a good deal on sites like Jadan?
All right.
So if you were planning to go by like individually, like by yourself only, or maybe the group of
two or three, then definitely you should use like this site.
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Like Jadan or like, maybe, you know, so many other, like Toraberu.
Toraberu.
You know, so many, that's called OTA.
OTA.
That's online travel agency.
That's much more cheaper than the company I was in.
Oh, okay.
If you, especially if you're talking about like that individual trips.
Okay.
Okay.
So go to these kind of sites.
And so if you want to go, like most of the cases, like this kind of flight and hotel
packages is cheap.
Oh, okay.
Why?
Because like this Jadan or that kind of OTA, buy certain amount of flight seats.
Gotcha.
So that they, it's much more cheaper than we actually buy one seat.
One seat.
Okay.
Okay.
So they can provide much more cheaper price to me, like to the customers.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Okay.
And that's the same logic for the hotel rooms.
The Jadan, they buy like 50 rooms at the same time so that they can, you know, buy that
much more cheaper than we can buy.
Oh, that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So, so if you want to buy flights again and a room at the same time, using OTA is the
best way.
What's the number one OTA?
It's actually depending on that room, hotel and the timing.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
So the best option is go to two or three OTA sites and check.
So if it was like a, like a Hilton, right?
Some OTA, one OTA will be stronger because it's got this connection.
Right.
And if you were looking for like four seasons, another OTA will be stronger than the other
one because it's got the connection.
Right.
Got it.
Got it.
So if you have an OTA having 15 rooms of a hotel and the OTA B has five rooms of a hotel,
then you know, the OTA have already bought that rooms.
Yeah.
So they, what they want to do is sell that rooms.
Yes.
So they go lower.
Yeah.
With the price.
Yeah.
Uh huh.
So depending on that timing.
Yeah.
You know how times like now, Corona, I'm sure the, the vacancy rate of a hotel is very high.
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And me from an inexperienced guy, like I feel like the hotel, if you're running a hotel,
you'd want to invite customers in a room, even if you're going very low, like even if
you, if you, if you sell it at like a thousand yen, it will still be a positive.
Does that make, is that true?
That's completely right.
Yeah.
So can you go to a hotel and be like, I'll rent your room for a thousand yen.
And is that going to work?
Yeah.
Uh, logically that's what works.
And do you know that hotel, they sell their rooms that are practically sometimes.
Okay.
I didn't know that.
Let's go search like where you want to go.
Four seasons maybe.
Let's go.
I want to go to a hotel in Tokyo.
Okay.
Four seasons in Tokyo.
Yeah.
So, so this is the, uh, the hotels, the main site, homepage, homepage.
It's not through this, through any OTA or anything.
Okay.
So direct site.
Yes.
Okay.
So, so they like this, they sell their rooms directly.
Yeah.
And you can go there.
Uh huh.
Like, uh, like maybe the standard.
And you can reserve the room.
But it's not low priced.
Uh, maybe compared to the regular season, it's a little bit lower price.
Uh huh.
Can you negotiate that?
Yeah.
It's negotiable.
Yeah.
Shit.
Nice.
Yeah.
That's nice.
Yeah.
But you know, the front people cannot judge that.
Ah, okay.
So you have to be connected with little upper people.
Ah.
Like shihai, not has to be shihainin, but hotel no eigyo person.
You can't just call them cold and be like, Hey, I saw your website.
I'll, I'll pay you however much yen, like 3000 yen for this room.
Would you expect, accept that?
And they can't, the front man would be like, I don't know who the fuck you are, so I'm just going to cut you off.
Right.
Ah shit.
That's tough.
So all you have to talk is, hello, this is, uh, uh, Kevin and maybe Kevin agency from,
from the United States and I'm, uh, planning a trip to Japan and can we reserve a room?
Uh huh.
And then the front desk people will connect you to that.
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Maybe little upper people or a yo people, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe not.
Oh, you just have to say you're an agency.
Yeah.
Then it changes the whole relationship.
Yeah.
Shit.
But you know, that's a lie.
That's a lie.
Yeah.
You shouldn't do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
And also most of the OTA is, uh, you know, the pricing is called dynamic pricing.
Yes.
That's changing every day.
So that's kind of same thing.
If they have so many, uh, zaiko, zaiko rooms, then the prices will be cheaper.
You know, that's a logically.
Right.
That makes a lot of sense.
The supply and demand.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you don't have to negotiate.
You can simply go to the OTA sites and check the prices.
Got it.
So most, so there's not much room for negotiation, I guess, if it's a dynamic pricing, like the
sites on OTA.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Makes a lot of sense.
That was some good information right there.
Yeah.
All right guys, don't call the hotel and be like, I'm an agency.
Don't do that guys.
Don't do that.
Do not.
Do not do that.
Do not do that.
Thanks for listening guys.
Bye bye.
Thanks for listening guys, bye bye!
