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Can we add a little major chord at the very end of my echoing?
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I'm gonna do this again, okay?
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Osusume.
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What was the last one?
What the fuck was the last one?
Was that weird for you?
Wasn't that like the minor chord at the last one?
No, it was that, maybe it was the seventh.
But...
Okay, okay, okay. Got it, got it.
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Right, it's the last one, right?
Very "oshare", right?
It gives it a little twist.
It becomes very fancy.
So, today I wanted to talk to you about "enyo no katamari".
Let's see this, please go.
Right.
This is a gift from Nauske-san.
Yeah.
She sent us a disco with our photo on it.
That's amazing.
Right. But we're not supposed to receive any food, so...
Heads up, guys. We're not supposed to...
We don't have to write a medical report.
But the rule is that we can't receive food.
Right?
Then we should cut this.
We should cut this part.
Yeah, we should cut this part.
But it's good.
But it's good.
So we'll leave it on.
Yeah.
But, okay.
Last episode we talked about "enyo no katamari".
Okay?
So what it is, is...
What's happening right now.
Yeah.
There's one piece left.
Yeah.
Everyone at the table is enyoing.
Yeah.
And they're not putting their hands on it.
Yeah.
Everyone is saving that for the other guys.
Right?
That's the expression. "Enyo no katamari".
Right.
And I think a lot of this happens...
Mm-hmm.
Very occasionally.
Like when you're at...
In the United States?
No, no, no. In Japan.
Yeah.
In Nomikai. Things like that.
Right.
And often see that one piece is left.
One piece is left here. One piece over there.
And I want a solution for that.
Why?
Today I want to come up with a solution for this.
Because I am tired of it.
Really?
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Because I am tired of...
I'm always the one that eats the last piece.
Oh.
I hate the "Enyo no katamari" that this is happening.
Even though I don't want it that much, I go for it.
Wow. Even you're a fool.
Right. Just because everyone's enyoing.
And it's like...
I almost feel ashamed that this is happening.
Wow.
That everyone's like... Everyone has to enyo over the other.
That is real American.
And I go for that.
I'll be like, "Can I eat this? I'm hungry."
And I eat it.
Because everyone's like fucking not eating it.
That's enyo.
I'm really ashamed of this happening.
How?
So...
I want to find a solution for this.
Right.
To give this to the one who really wants to eat it.
How can we solve that problem?
How can we make sure that this doesn't happen?
That the last piece is...
It's really difficult.
Right. That's why we need to brainstorm and find a solution.
What can we do?
Do what we're like, "Say" to everybody.
And make everybody comfortable.
Especially the person that puts their hands on the last piece.
Make him or her comfortable to consume that.
To eat the last piece.
How should we escort the group?
Okay?
You know the answer, right?
I do not know the answer.
Okay. I thought you have already...
I do not know the answer.
You teach me.
No, no, no, no.
I want to solve this together.
Alright.
So we have a group of...
Let's say six.
A group of six, right?
Or pizza.
Eating pizza and there are seven slices to make things easy.
Right?
What can we do to solve the enyo no katamae?
I think what I do is...
Okay. Rock, paper, scissors.
Rock, paper, scissors.
Great.
That's a great answer.
Okay.
But the problem with that is...
What if one person really wants to eat it...
And the other five just so happens to not want to eat it?
Yeah.
That's not going to solve it.
That would be the best.
That would not be the most efficient way of solving the problem, right?
The most efficient way would be for the person who wants to eat it to eat it.
Okay.
Right?
So the person who would be like that's one out of six probability of him getting the pizza.
Yeah.
So that's not the perfect answer.
Okay.
Do you have any idea?
Um...
No.
No.
But you really don't like that situation.
I don't like the situation.
I do not.
Why is that?
I don't know.
It's just I feel ashamed.
Why do I feel ashamed?
I don't know.
It's just like...
Like I feel like we could do better.
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I feel like we could do better with the communication.
Okay.
You know?
Okay.
Like I feel like this happens because there's not enough trust amongst us.
Okay.
I feel like this happens because the communication wasn't happening.
Oh, right.
If there was enough communication, everyone would just naturally go for the last piece.
Like we wouldn't even have to think about, "Oh, this is the last piece."
Right?
I want that seamlessness to happen.
That's funny.
Thank you.
Okay.
I take that as a compliment.
Okay.
Well...
Do you want to eat this?
I'm fine with that.
Okay, so what that would do...
What that happens is...
No one's going to say yes.
Then what?
Then how do I eat?
No one's going to say...
But you know...
But you want...
Your goal is to...
To finish that?
No.
Why?
Your goal is to have the person who wants to eat it, eat it.
Okay.
Right?
Then if no one said that, yes, that means no one wants to eat.
But the fact that the "Enyo no Katamari" is already happening...
Yeah?
Is that no one's going to say yes to that question.
Okay.
Because they're already enyoying.
Okay.
Who's going to say yes?
If...
Okay.
If one's...
I would say yes.
If one's brave enough to go say yes to that answer...
I would say yes if I really want to eat that.
Then that's not...
Okay.
I'm talking about the people who's not brave enough to...
To say that?
To go for the last piece.
Okay.
Right.
I want everyone to feel comfortable.
All right.
Okay.
What about cut that into six pieces?
I mean, it's a possible solution now.
That's...
Or like cut into three pieces.
Okay.
Why three?
So that...
You know, I know there's some people who really don't want to eat.
So if I cut into six pieces, that means...
Everyone has to eat.
Yeah, you're forced to eat that.
Okay.
Even for the people who don't want.
But if it was three...
Like one or two person who really want to eat.
Can eat that.
And also finish that.
You know, we're going to repeat the same problem again.
I will finish that.
Like what if one is left, I will finish.
And what if there are three people?
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Then...
Right.
I think so far that's like the closest answer we've gotten.
But like I don't think that's like the on-spot kind of answer.
Okay.
What was that?
Oh, that's the same thing, huh?
That's the same thing.
No one's going to say yes.
But why no one's going to say yes?
What is that?
Because everyone's enduring.
Why do you endure?
Why do you endure?
Because...
I don't endure.
I'm speaking on behalf of the people who does.
And I understand why.
Because they don't want to be greedy.
They don't want...
Yeah.
They feel like there's other people that wants to eat the last piece more than I do.
So why I don't want to take that away from them.
All right.
It's an act of kindness.
Okay.
Right.
Hmm.
Then...
What if...
Okay.
What if we change the atmosphere to like...
"Nokoshitara yabai ze" kind of atmosphere.
Okay.
Then everyone's mindset would be like...
It's an obligation to finish the whole plate.
Like not, "Oh, I'm greedy if I take the last one."
All right.
What about that?
Yeah.
But that means that if I feel that obligation is so strong, but not I'm full, then I will finish that.
You're right.
Right?
But like I guess...
Then what about...
I try to be the one who wants that most.
How?
Like that mindset change.
You want to trick your body.
Yeah.
It's me who want this the most in this crowd.
It's me.
Nokoshitara.
And then you eat it.
Yeah.
What if you actually don't want to?
No, no, no.
I really want to.
You're going to trick yourself into thinking that you actually want to.
Yeah.
Mindset change.
And I really want to finish that.
Yeah.
You know what?
That could be a possible solution.
Because you know, you can't really compare who's more hungry or right.
You never know that one really wants to eat.
Well, you know, that could be an answer.
But we're out of time.
Okay.
I don't think we've gotten to a perfect answer yet.
Yeah.
It's still a mystery.
Right.
And the last piece hasn't been eaten yet.
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Wow.
Go ahead.
You can finish that.
No, no, no.
You can eat the last piece.
You like sweet things, huh?
No, but this is yours.
Yeah, but you love...
It's your house.
So go ahead.
You love sweet things.
I've got two pieces already.
I have had two pieces too.
Yeah, but it's, you know...
No, it's your house.
Yeah, but I've got two already.
No, I got tons of them on my house.
Oh.
Right, so, you know.
Okay.
You have your piece and this is yours.
So basically I ate two of your miscals.
Oh, right.
So like, I'm sorry about that.
Yeah, but no problem.
Don't be in trouble.
Yeah, okay.
I'm going to go for it.
No, no, no.
That's...
Okay.
All right.
That's a little bit smaller.
Oh, no, no, no.
No, no, I...
That's a little bit bigger than yours.
No, no, no.
I don't...
By the way, I just cut it into half and we're like...
You know, it's a little bit bigger than yours.
No, yours is bigger.
It's okay.
No, no, no.
Because...
No, it's okay.
It's...
It's okay.
It's okay.
It's okay.
No, it's okay.
It's...
This is what I'm talking about, guys.
This is what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
All right.
Bye-bye.
All right.
That was a weird episode.
Thanks for listening again, guys.
I thought you had a solution already.
No, no, no.
I wanted to solve this.
Okay.
It was an endless question I've been having.
It's an endless.
We didn't have the power and the knowledge and experience to solve this all.
Please let us know if you have any solution.
Yes.
Bye-bye.
(laughing)
