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2025-08-18 26:52

Ep236 高松ふりかえり〜後編〜

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前回からの続きで、しーさんの高松移住感想回です。

具体的にどのお店に行って良かったとか、観光名所などの情報満載回になってるので、高松観光の予定がある方はぜひ参考にしてください☺️

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In this episode, the hosts reflect on their culinary experiences in Takamatsu, emphasizing the delightful local specialties such as kake udon, asparagus tempura, and unique dining experiences at various restaurants, including Waraya and Tachigui Sushi. They also share their thoughts on Takamatsu's bookstores, art museums, and local culture, highlighting locations such as Natasho and the Isamu-no-uchi Garden Museum. In the second part of their reflection on Takamatsu, they discuss their experiences living in the city, offer food recommendations, and mention their upcoming move to Fukui, contemplating their past and future interactions. Additionally, the episode features Mr. Oshii's insights on a summer meeting, touches on upcoming topics, and encourages listeners to engage by sending in questions or letters, all while maintaining a light-hearted banter about health and communication.

Takamatsu's Culinary Delight
スピーカー 2
La la la la la, Run, run, run, run!
藤原ヒロのなんやろ。
What?
Did you get it?
スピーカー 1
Did you get it?
I got that everything is delicious.
I see.
And
it really doesn't change.
スピーカー 2
You can't say that.
スピーカー 1
No, I shouldn't say that.
But
スピーカー 3
here, there are good things
but everywhere
スピーカー 1
there are good things.
Everything is delicious
When you go sightseeing
you have to eat
what's on the guidebook
but you don't have time
I think
but if you go to a restaurant
that doesn't have a queue
スピーカー 2
it's totally fine.
I see.
スピーカー 1
The basics are delicious.
The basics are delicious.
What's delicious is
iriko dashi.
スピーカー 2
It's delicious.
スピーカー 1
So please go with kake.
スピーカー 2
I see.
スピーカー 1
With kake.
Kake udon
スピーカー 2
is the most delicious.
I see.
For example, you like toppings
don't you?
Toppings
スピーカー 1
I think I like
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akashiwaten.
Any store.
スピーカー 3
Any store.
スピーカー 1
But
Asparagus
is famous
as a special product.
They make tempura
with it.
Asparagus is delicious.
It depends on the season
but if it's summer
I think it's delicious to eat
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tempura with asparagus.
The noodles
and the soup stock
are delicious
but the tempura
isn't it the quality of the store?
スピーカー 1
It is.
スピーカー 2
It is.
スピーカー 1
If you put a lot
of tempura
it cools down.
Some stores
スピーカー 2
have good tempura.
That's important.
But
it doesn't mean that
スピーカー 1
all popular stores are like that.
It's not just because it's a popular store
that the tempura is delicious.
スピーカー 2
I forgot about that.
スピーカー 3
Is there a place
スピーカー 1
where you can eat tempura?
Well
there are a lot of
stores I went to
but
I like the variety of tempura
because it's more fun.
And
the kodawari menya
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that we went to before
スピーカー 1
I like it overall.
スピーカー 2
I see.
スピーカー 3
It's easy to go there.
スピーカー 2
It is.
スピーカー 1
It's open.
And
the sakae udon
that we couldn't go to
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is also delicious.
スピーカー 1
The soup stock is delicious.
スピーカー 2
I see.
スピーカー 1
It's on the guidebook
スピーカー 2
a lot.
Do you line up a lot?
スピーカー 1
Yes.
But we do it in the morning
so it might be good.
I see.
And the store called Chikusei
スピーカー 2
is also popular.
スピーカー 1
This is the first store
that served
soft-boiled egg tempura.
It looks delicious.
This is also delicious.
But
there are only two types of tempura
soft-boiled egg and chikuwa.
I see.
I recommend kodawari menya
to people who want to enjoy it more.
スピーカー 2
I see.
スピーカー 1
Overall.
Recently,
udon baka
スピーカー 2
which is the most popular
in the guidebook
was recommended by Itai.
I see.
スピーカー 1
It's a long line
so the line
might make it delicious.
I see.
スピーカー 2
If the line is so long
スピーカー 1
it won't be delicious.
スピーカー 2
I see.
スピーカー 1
It will make it exciting.
スピーカー 2
Did you go there?
Yes, I did.
スピーカー 1
So you lined up.
スピーカー 2
Yes, I did.
For how long?
スピーカー 1
I lined up for 30 minutes.
スピーカー 2
I see.
It's rare
to line up for 30 minutes at an udon shop.
スピーカー 1
Especially on weekdays.
I don't know if it was on weekdays
but I lined up for a long time.
It was delicious
but if I was asked
to line up again
I would go somewhere else.
スピーカー 3
It's good to go once a year.
スピーカー 1
Udon with butter
is popular
but you can make it
at home if you add butter.
スピーカー 3
The one you make is also delicious.
スピーカー 2
The soup
I got as a souvenir
was really delicious.
スピーカー 1
It's delicious, isn't it?
But if you go here
you won't get to eat kake udon
but butter udon
スピーカー 2
so you can't taste the kake.
スピーカー 1
I see.
I want you to enjoy the kake
スピーカー 2
with the dashi from Iriko.
スピーカー 3
It's quite
a two.
スピーカー 2
Yes, it's a two.
スピーカー 1
I didn't know about udon.
I didn't think about it.
スピーカー 2
I didn't think about it.
I see.
スピーカー 3
So you enjoyed
スピーカー 1
eating a lot.
I ate a lot when I realized it.
But basically
スピーカー 2
when we went
we were trying to go to a restaurant
but we ended up staying at home.
スピーカー 1
Yes, because it's close.
スピーカー 3
It was a good place
Restaurants in Takamatsu
スピーカー 1
from the start.
There are a lot of places in Tokyo
but everywhere
is delicious.
What else is there?
スピーカー 3
Well...
スピーカー 1
There are a lot.
There is a sightseeing spot
called Shikoku-mura museum
which is an outdoor park
where you can see
old buildings from Shikoku.
There is a shop
called Waraya
スピーカー 2
right next to it.
Zaiko Udon?
スピーカー 1
Yes.
It's a pretty popular shop.
The tempura here was really good.
Wow.
スピーカー 2
It's like a shop
that welcomes tourists.
スピーカー 1
Yes, it is.
The atmosphere is really good.
スピーカー 3
I wonder if people who go to Muran go there.
スピーカー 2
Muran?
スピーカー 1
I think so.
The museum was really good.
I see.
As for sushi
in Takamatsu station
there is a restaurant
called Tachigui Sushi
スピーカー 2
in Shichiko.
スピーカー 1
It's really good.
I recommend it.
スピーカー 2
It's really easy to access.
Yes.
スピーカー 1
You can eat it
when you go on a business trip.
I can eat it
while holding my son.
スピーカー 2
You can drink alcohol.
スピーカー 1
I recommend it.
I recommend it for babies.
スピーカー 2
That's true.
If you don't stand up,
a lot of kids will fall down.
I recommend it for families like that.
スピーカー 1
That's true.
There is another Italian restaurant
in the city of Takamatsu
called Milano Okazuya.
I see.
I was surprised
スピーカー 2
how good it was.
スピーカー 1
I wanted to come here
with you next time.
スピーカー 3
It's an interesting name.
スピーカー 2
That's true.
スピーカー 1
I was surprised
how good the pasta was.
スピーカー 2
It was that good.
I see.
スピーカー 1
I wanted to go there.
My favorite menu
here is
all the pasta is good.
My husband said
the pepperoncino was
スピーカー 2
unusually good.
スピーカー 1
My favorite was
the beef cheek stew.
I was surprised
how good it was.
I was like,
スピーカー 2
what kind of meat is this?
It was so good
that I couldn't tell
if it was beef or not.
スピーカー 1
It was so soft
高松の書店と文化
スピーカー 1
that even
prenatal kids could eat it.
スピーカー 2
It was so soft.
スピーカー 3
I'm going to put my teeth in it.
スピーカー 2
That's true.
I'll give you another chance.
If we meet, I'll call you.
スピーカー 1
I'm going to go back to my hometown.
I might not be able to go to Italy,
but I think I can go to
Tachibushi in Shichiko.
スピーカー 2
That's true.
You can eat it right after
you put it in your mouth, right?
スピーカー 1
I think so.
スピーカー 2
If I eat it before putting it in my mouth,
スピーカー 1
I can't eat it.
I can't eat it in front of you.
I think I wore a hat
before.
I was there.
There is a bookstore
near Kazuya in Milan.
I think I've been there before.
スピーカー 3
Lunerunga?
スピーカー 1
Yes, I've been there.
The bookstore was also very good.
I've been there a few times.
I feel like I'll buy it when I get in.
スピーカー 2
That's how it feels.
It's an independent bookstore.
Yes.
Is it a success story?
スピーカー 3
Sometimes there are events
where the author
comes to the bookstore.
Yes.
I wanted to go there once,
but I couldn't.
Where was it?
Kashikiri?
スピーカー 1
I think it's called Nayusho.
スピーカー 3
I don't know.
Natsu?
Natasho?
It's called Natasho.
It's a fully-reserved old bookstore.
スピーカー 2
It's in Takamatsu.
It's a fully-reserved old bookstore.
スピーカー 3
It's called Natasho.
スピーカー 1
Can you see it?
You have to make a reservation in advance?
スピーカー 3
That's right.
I wanted to go there,
スピーカー 1
but I couldn't.
The hurdle is high.
スピーカー 3
It's right around here.
スピーカー 1
There were several old bookstores
スピーカー 3
around here, weren't there?
There were.
スピーカー 2
I looked it up and bought it.
Surprisingly, there are
a lot of bookstores around here.
スピーカー 1
In the city.
You can really enjoy walking
in the city.
There's an arcade, too.
スピーカー 2
Yes.
Arcades are good.
スピーカー 1
It doesn't matter if it's raining.
スピーカー 3
I went there a lot when I was young.
スピーカー 1
I went there a lot when I was young.
Speaking of bookstores,
there is a bookstore
specializing in picture books called
Atelier Lotta.
It's a bookstore that sells picture books.
スピーカー 2
It was great.
It's interesting just to look at
スピーカー 1
a bookstore specializing in picture books.
They have regular events here.
There's a time for babies to read
and a time for adults to
bring their favorite picture books
and read them.
I wanted to go there,
but it was hard to take my
little daughter there.
Anyone can join
the admission.
You can bring your favorite book
and read it in front of everyone.
In front of the adults.
スピーカー 2
Wow.
It's right next to the park.
スピーカー 1
This park was great, too.
スピーカー 2
I see.
スピーカー 1
I couldn't go there
while I was here,
but I went to the
Isamunoguchi Garden Museum
when I went on a trip to Takamatsu
スピーカー 2
just before it turned on.
スピーカー 1
It was great.
スピーカー 2
I went there.
スピーカー 1
What was the best?
This is a museum
where you make a reservation in advance.
Are you a lamp person?
スピーカー 2
Yes, I am.
スピーカー 1
I was shown
this stone called Azuishi
and made a big
outdoor atelier
here.
I was a person
who worked here for a long time.
This is called Energy Void.
There is a huge
stone sculpture here.
スピーカー 2
The one standing?
スピーカー 1
Yes, this is
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amazing.
It's totally different
from what you see in pictures, right?
スピーカー 1
There are pictures,
but
it's as it is,
but when I face
this weight
and mass,
スピーカー 2
I feel overwhelmed.
スピーカー 1
Personally,
I don't think I can take pictures,
but I was overwhelmed
by its presence.
スピーカー 2
I see.
Is this one
with a hole?
Yes, it is.
スピーカー 1
I see.
スピーカー 3
What is this?
スピーカー 2
What is this?
スピーカー 1
I don't know.
Other than this,
there are other sculptures
such as the house I lived in
and the artwork
I made with this thread.
It was an interesting art museum.
スピーカー 2
I see.
I like lamps,
so I wanted to go to Isamu-no-uchi.
スピーカー 1
Yes, but
I wanted to go there again.
Yes.
スピーカー 2
I'm sure you would have gone
if you had lived there for a long time.
I think so.
I feel like I want to go there
スピーカー 1
again.
I'm glad you came
when I needed you.
The other day,
I went to
Higashiyama-kai Setouchi
Art Museum
in Sakai-de.
It was a great place.
I see.
Higashiyama-kai
is full of paintings,
so there were no
live paintings.
In that sense,
the exhibition itself
was a bit dull,
but the building itself
of the museum
was very beautiful.
It was like a museum
of Higashiyama-kai.
The colors and
the sculptures were very beautiful.
There was a cafe in the museum,
and from the cafe,
you could see
all of Seto Bridge.
Yes.
It was a very beautiful museum.
スピーカー 2
It would be very beautiful
if you went there on a blue sky day.
スピーカー 3
Yes.
There was something called
Touban.
スピーカー 2
It's a replica.
You bought it at the store?
スピーカー 3
Yes.
I thought I heard the name,
スピーカー 1
but it was a horse.
Oh, really?
This is also a representative work.
スピーカー 2
Yes.
スピーカー 1
Originally,
my mother
really liked Higashiyama-kai.
When I told her
there was a place like this,
she was like,
I'm going!
I wondered why
there was a painting of Higashiyama-kai here.
Apparently, my grandfather
was from an island around here.
It was a place with a lot of history.
Higashiyama-kai
was the origin of
Higashiyama-kai.
It's a bridge.
Apparently, there is a museum here.
It has just been renovated
and is very beautiful,
so if you are interested,
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please come.
スピーカー 3
It is blessed with art, isn't it?
スピーカー 1
That's right.
In that sense,
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the balance was really good.
スピーカー 1
It's moderately
natural, moderately urban,
moderately cultural.
It's all there.
Takamatsuの思い出
スピーカー 1
It's all there.
スピーカー 3
There are not too many people.
スピーカー 2
It's a city where you can see
スピーカー 1
why people move so much.
I really recommend it
スピーカー 3
as a place to move to.
Access is also
relatively
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close to Kyoto.
As long as there is a bus.
Yeah.
スピーカー 3
People who have a car
If you want to take the Shinkansen,
you have to cross the bridge.
スピーカー 2
Yeah.
But
if you can experience
taking the ferry, you can.
スピーカー 1
I wanted to visit
more islands.
スピーカー 2
Really.
I didn't think I'd be there
スピーカー 1
just once.
スピーカー 2
You came for the first time.
スピーカー 1
It felt like a first time.
スピーカー 2
You had a big belly.
Yeah.
スピーカー 3
Really.
スピーカー 2
You drove for me.
スピーカー 1
At that time, it was a very
awkward driving, but
I got used to driving.
スピーカー 2
Even if you sit in the passenger seat,
you pay attention to whether you are driving.
スピーカー 1
That's right.
スピーカー 3
You have no choice
but to go to the company
スピーカー 2
you work for.
スピーカー 3
Really?
You go to the company
you work for.
You just meet up
スピーカー 2
and eat.
It's like eating sushi
together.
スピーカー 3
That's all you can do
スピーカー 2
when you're there.
Well, it's a few days
from now to moving.
That's impossible.
Do you live in Takamatsu?
Yes.
I've been saying that for a long time.
スピーカー 1
Anyway, I'm glad.
スピーカー 2
I'm glad.
スピーカー 1
As long as you're not lonely.
スピーカー 2
That's right.
I'm glad I lived in a good place.
It's a city that's so attractive
スピーカー 1
that it's hard to leave.
But recently,
I've been looking forward to Fukui.
スピーカー 2
That's right.
I think it's your talent
to be able to move forward.
That's right.
スピーカー 1
But I'm probably the same
as you.
I'm the type of person
スピーカー 2
who wants to go to a lot of places.
I see.
You have a lot of interest.
スピーカー 3
And if you can go
スピーカー 1
at the convenience of others.
Yes, I'm lucky.
It's not my responsibility.
I can go while saying,
スピーカー 2
huh?
スピーカー 3
And it's not like
スピーカー 2
I can't go to Kyoto.
スピーカー 1
That's right.
I know I can go back to Kyoto someday.
That's true.
スピーカー 2
That's right.
On the contrary, it's decided
スピーカー 1
to go back.
スピーカー 2
It's decided, isn't it?
I've been saying that for a long time.
スピーカー 1
That's right.
So next time,
スピーカー 2
please come to Fukui.
スピーカー 3
Yes, please.
スピーカー 2
The teacher only thought about eating.
スピーカー 1
I'll look for a good place.
スピーカー 3
Especially if it's Fukui.
Kagawa is Kagawa.
But I didn't know.
スピーカー 2
That's right.
I want to eat delicious food from Japan.
スピーカー 1
That's right.
スピーカー 2
I think it's better in winter.
I have the image that there are
スピーカー 1
a lot of delicious food in winter.
I think it's better after the crab season.
But it's hard when it snows.
That's true.
スピーカー 2
I see.
スピーカー 3
It won't come off.
スピーカー 1
I hope we can go
スピーカー 2
in November or December.
By then,
it will have calmed down to some extent.
スピーカー 1
This time, I'm going to
skip it from the beginning.
スピーカー 2
Are you okay?
Don't push yourself too hard.
スピーカー 1
It's hot.
I'm trying to get used to this land.
スピーカー 2
In that sense.
That's right.
But I'm trying to adjust
so that I don't get too tired.
スピーカー 1
You're enjoying it.
スピーカー 2
I'm enjoying it.
スピーカー 3
It was planned to go on for a long time.
This time.
スピーカー 1
Yes.
スピーカー 2
Take advantage of my reflection.
But it was good.
スピーカー 1
Takamatsu.
スピーカー 2
As an experience.
スピーカー 1
It was a year and a half.
スピーカー 2
Yes, it was good.
Maybe
there will be some stock.
Mr. C will move
from now on.
And during the summer,
it's hard to record.
But maybe
in mid-August,
while recording with Mr. C,
if it runs out,
there will be a break.
Yes.
So when we record next time,
Mr. C will be from Fukui.
スピーカー 1
He will be from Fukui.
スピーカー 2
He will be a citizen of Fukui.
I'm looking forward to that.
スピーカー 1
I'm looking forward to that report.
スピーカー 2
Yes.
Please do your best
スピーカー 1
to keep your body warm.
Yes, it's hot in Kyoto.
スピーカー 2
It's crazy.
スピーカー 3
It's like 36.7 and 6.7 degrees.
スピーカー 1
It's crazy.
スピーカー 2
It's like a fever.
スピーカー 1
Have you been to Kiyomatsuri?
スピーカー 2
Well, yesterday
I went out
and bought
Kikusui Boko Chimaki
and Kichou Ayu.
and bought Kichou Ayu.
Ayu is good.
スピーカー 1
Ayu is good.
Ayu is good.
スピーカー 3
It was empty, wasn't it?
スピーカー 2
It was empty this year.
Why?
スピーカー 3
It's a weekday.
スピーカー 2
It's a weekday in Yoiyama.
Naginata Boko Chimaki
I think
you can buy it online,
so there are fewer queues.
スピーカー 1
I see.
スピーカー 2
It's a weekday.
Yes.
There is also a rain forecast.
I think it's a relatively
easy-to-spend Kiyomatsuri.
That's good.
I hope you
do your best to move.
スピーカー 3
I'll do my best.
I'll leave it to you.
スピーカー 2
It's hard to move.
It's hard to move.
スピーカー 1
Then, I'll leave it to you for a while.
スピーカー 2
Please contact me
when you can record again when you calm down.
スピーカー 1
I'm looking forward to that day.
I'll do my best
スピーカー 2
in the summer vacation.
Summer vacation is the same as children.
Yes, it's the same as children.
スピーカー 1
Including looking for a movie.
Yes, looking for a movie.
スピーカー 3
But it's fun to go
to various places and scenery.
スピーカー 2
I'm looking forward to it.
I'm really looking forward to it.
Then, be careful.
Yes.
Well, then.
Well, then.
I don't know if it will be autumn for a while,
スピーカー 1
but please do your best.
Please increase the data capacity as soon as possible.
スピーカー 2
I'll send you a picture.
Please do so.
スピーカー 1
Say bye-bye.
スピーカー 2
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
スピーカー 1
See you again.
スピーカー 2
See you again.
Oh, he said bye-bye.
This is a behind-the-scenes story.
I delivered the second part
of Mr. Oshii's Takamatsu Furikaeri.
Yes.
From here on,
Mr. Oshii is in a period
when he can't record,
so next week,
well, from next week,
I think it's going to be a two-person meeting for a while.
That's what I think.
夏の会議の見通し
スピーカー 2
Yes.
I think he's probably busy right now,
Mr. Oshii.
スピーカー 3
Yes.
スピーカー 2
Well, the kids are on vacation.
Oh, that's right.
During the summer vacation,
I was talking about
looking for a circle during the summer vacation.
Yes.
Well, the two-person meeting will continue,
and if we don't have anything to talk about,
maybe someone
will ask us to do it.
That's what I think.
For now,
I'd like to hear the rest of the story
of Mr. Oshii's reading
of Maid.
Yes.
Let's record it
at some point.
Mr. Oshii, do you feel like you need to get ready?
スピーカー 3
Well, I have some free time.
スピーカー 2
Yes, that's right.
スピーカー 3
Even if I look at the memo,
スピーカー 2
I might not know what it is.
So, next week,
I'll be talking about the current situation,
and I've received some letters,
so I'm thinking
I'll be introducing them
to you.
Yes.
So,
it's easy to read the letters now,
so if you have any questions,
you can send them to me
from the letter office.
Oh, that's fast.
I think I can answer them right away.
You can use the hashtag.
Yes.
It's very hot,
and I'm sweating a lot.
How's your hat?
スピーカー 3
I'm not feeling well, either.
スピーカー 2
That's right.
Let's talk about that later.
Yes.
Please take care of your health.
Have a good time.
I'm always welcome
to hear your messages.
I've received your letters,
so please check the description
for more details.
Have a great week.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you.
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