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2024-11-27 35:04

#29 Ranma ½ - Where did my nipples go?

In this episode we talk about Ranma ½ - the original manga, the original 1980s/90s TV series, and the new remake!  Find out what’s changed, what’s stayed the same, and what we think about this gender-bending classic!


New series announcement 

Rumiko Takahashi’s many series

Gender themes and representation in Ranma ½ 

Why remake Ranma ½ in 2024?

Old and new series comparison

Ranma ½ video game and live action adaptations

The famous voice cast of Ranma 1/2

Opening theme song: “Iinazukkyun” by Ano

Ano’s work and her role in Oshi-no-Ko

Word of the day

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サマリー

このエピソードでは、アニメ「らんま½」について、原作者である高橋留美子や関連作品の情報を共有し、過去の思い出に触れています。『らんま½』の最新再制作や、アニメにおけるヌードの表現、1980年代のスタイルがどのように影響を与えているかを探ります。『らんま½』は、性別が変わる主人公を通じてトランスジェンダーの権利に関する文化的課題を浮き彫りにしつつ、ギャグを中心としたコメディとして描かれています。エピソードでは、『らんま½』のキャラクターたちの性別役割やアニメーションの進化について議論され、特にアカネとナンマの関係性に焦点が当てられています。また、実写版の『らんま½』とそのキャラクターの声優について語られ、声優の独自性やキャラクターのユニークな特徴が強調されています。アニメ「らんま½」のオープニングテーマやその意味、アニメの特性についても言及されています。さらに、アニメ『らんま½』におけるいなづけの概念や登場人物の関係性について議論が展開されています。最後に、アニメと漫画に関連した話題が取り上げられ、特に古い「Nama Manga」におけるキャラクターの特徴についても触れられています。

Ranma ½の思い出
Vividly remember like places where like the characters are opening their shirts and sort of looking down and being like that can't possibly be in a video game that's not allowed like what's happening here and not understanding what I was looking at for like a really long time and then being like oh damn like later on and so yeah that when that particular episode came with it's like recap opening I was like yeah it was a deep cut for sure but I was also like wow I can't believe they chose to use this that's so cool.
Konnichiwa, I am your host Mayu for 2AM OTTACK! In this podcast we talk all about anime, manga, movies, music, and history through our distinct perspectives as a born and raised Japanese non-otaku, that's me, and an American anime fan, Sisqo.
That's me.
Today we are taking down the memory lane and dive into the world of Ranma ½ or what are you called?
You know I'm not totally sure I think often it's known just as Ranma but when I was a kid what I called it and what I think other people called it was Ranma ½ it's like a weird way to put it but that's what I remember thinking its name was and that is you know that's how it's written so I don't know if you pronounce it like Ranma divided by two or something like that but like I think it's Ranma ½.
We both watched the original Ranma in the 80s and 90s as a kid.
For me it was definitely the 90s when I was watching it. Did it start running in the 80s or is it from the early 90s?
It started from 1989.
Okay.
So probably I watched it in the 90s.
And now the show came back as the 2024 version.
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I mean that's what we do in the new Jump Attack podcast is suggest manga to read from the Shonen Jump app.
That's true. We started a new series on 2AMOTAK talking about Shonen Jump manga which comes out every Sunday.
That's right.
And Cisco reads all of them.
I do.
He's very dedicated.
Very.
Three straight hours of manga reading every Sunday morning.
Oh no, it's so much work.
He clearly enjoys reading the podcast.
I'm happy.
You're just like, yeah, I don't read any of them.
I just ask questions.
Right.
Well, check the Jump Attack too.
Okay, let's get into it.
Alright.
関連作品の紹介
Ranma was by Rumiko Takahashi.
It's a Japanese manga.
Rumiko Takahashi also made Urusei Yatsura.
Yep.
What's the name for this in English?
I think it was translated as Those Obnoxious Aliens.
But as you can imagine, that title did not stick.
Oh my god.
And most English speakers also know it as UY Urusei Yatsura.
That's bad.
I mean, it is, yeah.
I mean, how would you translate Urusei?
Like, loud?
Noisy?
Okay, yeah, I get it.
Like, Urusei Yatsura, I think a little translation would sort of be like, the noisy ones.
But that's even less descriptive about what the heck is going on in the show.
Right, because it's written as a star, a planet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's hard.
So the aliens part makes sense based on the kanji in the title.
But yeah, it's like, I mean, even the other thing about Urusei Yatsura is like, so many of the jokes are about deep Japanese culture that the liner notes for the Urusei Yatsura subtitled videos were just huge.
Every VHS would come with a multi-page packet of information being like, to understand this, here's all the Japanese stuff you need to understand.
Yeah, so she made that also.
She also did Maison Ikkoku.
Inuyasha?
Inuyasha, which became really famous later on.
Right.
So this year or last year, Urusei Yatsura rebooted, and then now it's Nanma.
I am really excited that they're remaking Nanma.
I hope they give it more than one season.
Given that Urusei Yatsura came out and immediately they started remaking Ranma, I don't know if that's a good sign or a bad sign.
I didn't really remember what the story is about.
I only remembered that Nanma can become a woman and a man interchangeably.
アニメのヌード表現について
Yes, no, that's true.
That's the only thing I remembered.
It's kind of like, edgy, kind of sexy, in a way.
It's actually, I think that's not actually a good way to describe it.
There is a lot of nudity.
Nudity.
But it's not actually very edgy because nobody's having sex.
I mean, there are scenes where people kiss each other, I suppose, but it's actually quite chaste in terms of what it portrays as the sort of people being into each other.
Right?
Yeah, but as a kid, like elementary school kid, it's pretty intense.
There was a lot of nudity.
And I think that's really it, though.
And back in the 80s, I guess, you could get away with nipples.
And so there are a lot of exposed nipples in the original Nanma, but not in the update.
In the update, they just all had their nipples filed off or something.
I find it kind of disturbing, actually.
I don't understand it, and I think it's weird.
I think anime went through a whole phase over the last 20 years of you weren't allowed to show nipples.
So there was always a bizarre lens flare or random steam or somebody's hair fell in a particular way so that you couldn't see any nipples.
Which was sort of like, guys, what is it about nipples that is apparently scary?
What's up with that?
I think people sexualize once nipples are there.
Why?
You can't have sex with a nipple, right?
It's not a sex organ.
I guess I sort of understand not wanting to show a penis or a vagina, but what's wrong with a nipple?
I don't know. That's a good question.
Anyway, I think it's a problem that it's not okay to show nipples.
I think it's bound up with a cultural misogyny or fear of women, and I think it's not okay.
1980年代のスタイルの影響
Yeah, it's like there are people out there, you're not supposed to breastfeed in public.
Right, exactly.
That's your right. It's your mother's right to feed in public.
And there's nothing sexual about breastfeeding.
So the idea that it's somehow not an okay thing to do in public I think is ridiculous.
I agree. So that was an interesting choice.
On the one hand, they're not ridiculously discreetly hiding it.
At the same time, everybody's a mannequin, and it's just bizarre.
I'm not sure. I don't think the original anime had this, but the 2024 version has lots of sound effect words in anime.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it looks like manga, but it's anime.
I'm trying to remember the original anime and see if those are in there or not.
I feel like they might be.
Yeah.
But you may also be right. I think they're definitely more overdone now, or more stylized.
And yeah, that seems like a significant difference.
Which I kind of enjoy.
Yeah, it takes it back to that sort of time and place and grounds it in the manga in a nice way.
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Also, all the clothes, hairstyle, and kitchen.
Yeah, some of the sweaters in particular are extremely 80s.
Yeah, it cannot be denied.
It's so 80s and nostalgic. It's pretty good.
I don't know how people in younger generation think about those styles.
Do you think they think, oh, it's kind of cool?
Let's go ahead and clear the room by just saying I have no sense of style whatsoever.
You are asking the wrong person questions about style.
Also, I am constantly surprised by what people 20 or plus years younger than me think is cool.
Because I'll be like, oh, this is super old and weird.
And people will be like, no, it's very fashionable right now.
And I'll be like, why?
So I think it could go either way.
People could look at it and be like, wow, it's so old and dorky.
Or they could look at it and be like, oh my god, that look is really back in right now.
I think it just means I've lived long enough for the pendulum to swing both directions, right?
So I have no idea is the real answer.
Do you think there's a reason why people decided to reboot Ranma 2.0, which is an 80s manga, in 2024?
That's a really good question. I don't know.
I think both Urusei Atsura and Ranma were hugely popular in their heyday.
So it might just be, hey, we don't have any good new ideas for anything.
Let's just remake this.
I don't know. I was about to say that I think Ranma feels family friendly in some way.
暴力とノスタルジー
Because it's violent.
There's people beating each other up constantly.
But there's no blood.
There's no murder.
It's not on the same level as some of the other popular anime.
You compare Ranma 1.5 to Chainsaw Man or Jujutsu Kaisen or the other really big ones of today, even to something like Naruto.
And it's a comedy.
And the violence isn't permanent in most cases.
People will get beat up and then they'll be better the next day.
It's sort of like a gag manga rules.
And there's definitely a nostalgia for the 1980s and 90s right now that's being expressed in people's interest in 1980s city pop from Japan.
People's nostalgia for stuff that was big in the 90s here in America also.
And so I think that might be part of it.
That there's just sort of a cultural wave of nostalgia from stuff from this time period.
And this was popular then.
性別の変化とその影響
Maybe it'll be popular again now.
And I think one of the things that's striking me about Ranma is we're living through a moment in which trans people are under an enormous amount of attack from different parts of our culture.
And their existence is denied or rejected or criticized, etc.
I think Ranma is a really weird anime because you have a main character who is literally changing back and forth between being a boy and a girl.
And one, it's a really intense gender binary, right?
Ranma doesn't get hit with lukewarm water and become like a non-binary person.
There's only two.
And it's either he or she and no middle ground.
And moreover, it's only Ranma's body that's changing.
Well, I guess I sort of know.
Female Ranma sometimes acts, quote, like a girl on purpose to get free food and things.
But Ranma's gender doesn't really seem to change, just their sex, just their body, their body, his body.
I don't know.
So I think it's weird to have it be kind of in conversation with the ongoing controversy about trans rights.
I hate to say controversy, but I don't know, conflict, people just being enormous jerks about it.
So it has a literal sex swapping hero.
But at the same time, it doesn't really look into that at all.
It's not actually trying to make any commentary about people who are trans.
And I think at the time it was created, it's hard to know whether the author had that on her radar at all in making the show.
And it doesn't seem like it's trying to comment on it in a significant way.
So it's kind of a weird time for it to come back out and not be updated at all.
キャラクターの深さ
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.
It's a good topic, good theme, but it's exactly the same as original.
Yeah, it's just played for laughs.
There's no indication that anybody's thinking seriously about what it might mean to have a body that goes back and forth.
And especially coming out after other anime like Your Name that also includes people sort of body swapping and developing some more empathy for people on the other end of their gender transition.
I don't know, the fact that that doesn't really happen in Nanma.
He's not an introspective character.
He's kind of a meathead, right?
But he doesn't spend very much time being like, huh, now that I have this access into what it's like to be a girl, I've better understood the challenges that women face in our society.
None of that happens.
He's like, you know what's cool about being a girl?
Free food.
And I'm like, that's it.
That's the level of his depth as what he's taking away from being female.
He's also young, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a teenage boy.
So that's what I mean.
It has all this potential for being an interesting investigation of culture, society, gender, etc.
Instead, it's a gag show about like, ha ha ha, I got beat up.
Let's fight this guy.
But I still like it somehow.
Yeah, maybe 2060 or something.
They reboot again.
And they change the story a little bit more complex or interesting.
Maybe.
I mean, I guess if they really took it in that direction, it would no longer be like a gag comedy.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't feel like it handles the issue disrespectfully.
It's just weird that it's not in there at all.
And it's available all over the world, right?
It's not only in Japan.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Interesting.
性別役割の探求
I mean, in ways, I think Akane is the more interesting character when it comes to discourse on gender.
Because she's a girl and she's a cisgendered girl.
But she is challenging stereotypes about what it means to be a girl in ways that Nanma is not.
And certainly her sisters, Kasumi and Nabiki, really aren't.
They are playing hard into existing female stereotypes about moms and material girls.
And only Akane is really sort of suggesting that there's a different type of way to approach being a girl.
Right.
And I guess Nanma as a girl is asking some of those same questions, except that he doesn't experience himself to be a girl.
And so the point is kind of moot.
Is there any scenes or moments you liked?
So one of the moments that I really noticed as being different from the original, or at least I think, because I haven't seen the original in decades,
actually came in the most recent episode where Nanma as a girl gets kissed by the figure skating character.
I can't remember his name already.
But the animation right after that happens gets really different.
First, it gets all kind of wobbly.
And then later he has this sort of explosion of rage where they're using really modern animation techniques to show his anger and rage about it.
And that really stands out as being very different from the original, whereas the first two or three episodes honestly felt like almost shot for shot exactly the same as the original.
It finally starts to feel like towards the later episodes, like they're adding some more modern stuff to it and updating at least the visuals a little bit, if not really the story.
And so I liked that moment and that episode in general I thought was pretty good.
A lot of that is what happens in the original story too, but at least the graphical quality felt a little bit different and I thought that was kind of cool.
In that episode, towards the end, there's like, I was not trying to kiss you.
I know you can't kiss me.
And then like, oh, let's try.
That was so cute.
Right.
And then in the old days, like Showa era or Heisei era, I think people really like acted or talked like that, like very straightforward.
Right.
But now people think too much, I think.
They don't tell their feelings straight.
Yeah, you said this when you were watching it and I was like, but neither of them are being honest about their feelings in that scene either.
That's true.
But they're still communicating.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
So I thought that was kind of fresh to me.
Well, they just seem braver than people today.
Whereas that whole idea of like, I'll just do it.
And then he can't actually do it.
But his bravado and bluster about, yeah, but I'm gonna, is a thing that you wouldn't see today.
People would be too afraid to even have that interaction, much less try to show off about it.
Right.
I really like that.
I agree that that was a very cute moment, both because of the fundamental innocence that it reveals about the characters and because of the throwback sort of nature of the interaction overall.
Also, on episode four, the opening of this episode started with the video game style.
Do you remember Super Nintendo?
Oh, yes.
Yeah, yeah.
That blew my mind because I had that video game.
Maybe only on emulation.
No, maybe I'm trying to remember if I had the Super Famicom 2 Super NES converter.
And I think at some point I did.
I definitely played the Super Nintendo Dunma video game as a kid and vividly remember places where the characters are opening their shirts and sort of looking down and being like, that can't possibly be in a video game.
That's not allowed.
What's happening here?
And not understanding what I was looking at for a really long time.
And then being like, oh, damn, later on.
And so, yeah, when that particular episode came with its recap opening, I was like, yeah, it was a deep cut for sure.
But I was also like, wow, I can't believe they chose to use this.
That's so cool.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
So Ranma became a video game, and then it also became a TV drama, one-shot TV drama in 2011.
実写版の紹介と反応
What?
I've never heard of this before.
Me neither.
That's a bad sign.
Yeah.
They made a live action.
Yes.
One-shot.
Yes.
What is the story even about?
I don't know.
I mean, Ranma?
I don't know.
But it's just like the first episode as a live action TV show.
And then like, that's the end.
We're just done.
I have no idea.
That is so weird.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe there's a reason for one-shot.
It is one-shot implies they planned it, right?
It's not like a 12-episode series that got canceled midway through.
No.
I just can't even.
I'm like, no.
Okay.
All right.
声優の魅力とキャラクター
I just wanted to mention about the voice actors.
Almost all main voice actors are original voice actors, which is amazing.
Because at this point, these people are so famous.
For example, Ranma, the boy Ranma is by Kappei Yamaguchi.
Yeah.
Is Usopp, basically.
Usopp, right.
Yeah.
And then girl Ranma is Megumi Hayashibara.
Yeah.
Also, Akane is by Noriko Hidaka.
Okay.
She's been doing a lot of stuff.
But for me, my neighbor Totoro is a big thing.
Satsuki.
Sure.
The sister, big sister.
And then Nabiki is by Minami Takayama, Detective Conan.
The main character in Conan?
Conan, yeah.
Is Nabiki?
Yes.
That's so weird.
All the other ones, I'm like, yeah, no, I knew that.
But this one, I think I didn't know.
And also, those characters are so different.
I mean, I guess a lot of these characters are really different from each other.
But for whatever reason, that's the one where I'm like, no, that can't be true.
Nabiki's character really reminds me of the character from Kiki's Delivery.
The friend?
Friend, like older friend who lives with crows.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's by Minami Takayama too.
Not the same, but similar.
Yeah, I see that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Also, Ryoga Hibiki is by Koichi Yamadera.
He is like a legend.
He is legend.
But these other people aren't legends?
I mean, other people are legend too.
But he did so many voices for Hollywood actors too.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then the famous one is Jim Carrey from Mask.
Are you sure that's not just famous in your memory?
Probably.
But no, he's famous.
He's super, super famous.
I'll take your word for it.
Yeah.
There are characters with new voice actors too, like Kodachi.
Sure.
Kuno.
It's by Ayane Sakura who did a voice for Fiona or like Abiko from Oshinoko.
Oh, right, right, right.
She does a lot of voices.
But I love this character.
Like, this is such like 80s, 90s character.
Like, oh, ho, ho, ho, ho.
Yeah, I think like the yandere like trope really changed in the 2000s and became like much more like, I don't know.
I guess like it's disturbing at any time, but like became like a lot more like kind of like horror-esque, whereas it used to be more comedic.
And I think Kodachi is like an example of like fundamentally, I think she is kind of a yandere, right?
But like the oh, ho, ho, ho, like ojou-sama yandere is like not a trope that I see as much anymore.
Because I think like modern day yanderes are supposed to be actually scary as opposed to like sort of funny.
Yeah.
If it makes sense.
Yeah.
I mean, she used a lot of like weapons to try to-
Right, yeah.
She's constantly trying to like poison and like kill people, right?
So like, but in a funny way.
I was like, she's kind of a regular girl, right?
I mean, except the fact she's trying to kill those nanma and stuff.
But like when she was leaving, like she's hopping to like roof to roof.
Right, right, right.
The jumping from roof to roof thing is a really great part of that character.
キャラクターの変遷とテーマ曲
Oh, let's talk about the opening theme song.
Oh, yeah.
So this is actually, in my opinion, the biggest change that they've made in the anime is they picked a new opening theme song.
And the animation of the opening theme song is also wildly different from the original.
I don't remember the original.
Oh, you don't remember?
What is it?
I don't know.
What?
I don't know.
Oh, I'm like, I'm surprised that you don't remember it.
Sing it.
No, I can't.
It's like, even if I remembered it well, I don't think I could, because the voice.
I mean, I guess like, I will grant this, like the new opening theme song is by Anno, who has one of the most distinct voices in modern J-pop because she sounds like a little girl robot or something.
Anime character?
Yeah, like an anime character.
And the original also has like a ridiculously high pitched voice.
It's sort of like, I think Jojo Minisase Naide, to me, is sort of like one half the second Rurouni Kenshin opening.
Like, it's like pitched like that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I feel like I knew a lot of the Ranma songs, even though I didn't actually watch that much of the series.
I had read random parts of the manga.
I owned the first manga volume.
The first Tanko Bon.
And I had read a bunch of different parts of it, and I saw all sorts of random different episodes of the anime.
But I never sat down and watched the whole series in order.
Anyway, but I knew a lot of the theme songs.
I think I had like a Ranma theme songs collection CD at some point.
Wow.
Anyway, yeah.
So the original theme song, to me, is very iconic.
And it's sort of like, I mean, one, the lyrics are old.
The translation of Jajouma ni Sasanai is, don't make me a shrew.
A shrew is a type of animal in English, but it can also mean, I think, sort of like an old complainy woman.
So don't make me a...
I think Jajouma means shrew, right?
Like the animal?
What kind of animal?
What is a Jajouma?
Jajouma?
Yeah.
It's not an animal.
What is it?
This is like a metaphoric way.
Like a person, especially girls who are active and then cause trouble sometimes.
Troublesome.
Okay.
Well, I guess shrew probably retains the meaning of troublesome woman or something.
But there's a Shakespeare play called The Taming of the Shrew.
It's a really old word that modern people wouldn't know.
And so it was like a bizarre choice of translation for something from the 80s that's about teen...
You know what I mean?
It didn't make any sense.
Anyway, all that to say, the new opening theme song makes way more sense as a Ranma opening theme song.
It doesn't have this weirded, loaded baggage of outdated terms.
And it's done by a very modern artist.
And the other thing that's nice is the new opening has some really nice, smooth animation of people doing Kung Fu.
And that's one of the highlights of the new opening.
That's paying homage to the fact that the series is about martial arts, which wasn't captured.
I would need to go back and watch the original animation again.
But I feel like that wasn't clear from the original thing.
So part of me was sad that it wasn't the same when they'd gone to such lengths to do so many other parts of it the same.
And part of me is like, this was a really wise choice of thing to update.
And I like the new opening theme song.
I kind of like Anno as an artist, which I don't think you agree with.
But I think she's pretty good.
And I think this song kind of nailed it in terms of what it was going for.
She did one song for Chainsaw Man's ending.
Yes.
What was the name?
The Best One.
I don't know what the actual I think the name of that song is.
It's something that does not reflect the actual main lyrics of the song.
But the very, very memorable chorus is where she's singing Get on Chew.
on chew, but it really sounds because of the way she's singing, like she's saying, get
old too.
And Gero means throw up and vomit.
And it's the ending theme song of the episode where, where like the girl throws up in his
mouth when they're kissing.
And so when she's like, I watched this with the anime club at school and like, I was like,
I was like falling off my chair.
I was laughing so hard.
And everyone else in the room is just like, what the hell is wrong with you?
Because none of them got it.
So I had to like explain, but like explaining any joke kills it.
Right.
So they're just like, what the hell is so funny?
And I'm like, she's saying like, throw up kiss.
And they were just like, you're weird.
So yeah.
Yeah.
So Anno did that.
And that's like, definitely what made me like her as an artist.
Because that was hilarious.
Interesting.
Anno-chan is playing the character from Oshinoko, the YouTube one.
What was the name?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Memu-chan.
Memu-chan.
Something like that.
Yeah.
And she's perfect in it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's ideal.
So hopefully we can watch the live action sometime.
The actual play?
Live action TV.
They're making a live action TV of Oshinoko?
Yes.
And the movie.
And they're also doing a live action Tokyo Blade in a not stage around.
Yes.
I'm still not over that.
Sorry.
How?
How did they miss that opportunity?
It's like so...
Yeah.
Okay.
Are we going to go see that play?
Huh?
No.
What?
Okay.
That was like a really clear answer.
Thank you.
Huh?
No.
I was like, oh, that was Momo worthy right there.
I know.
I love the character.
Okay.
All right.
We're not going to see the Tokyo Blade stage play.
I think it's happening.
It's going to happen December in Japan.
Oh, this like right coming up?
Yeah.
Oh, so we'd have to go like right now.
And it's not going to keep playing for like a year?
No, it's like only a short period of time.
I guess I don't know this for a fact.
But I think for like, I mean, for Broadway shows in America, if you open a new show and
it's a hit and people keep buying tickets, like it just runs forever.
I know.
I know.
Yeah.
So I'm not used to the concept of like, oh yeah, we're going to do a play, but we're
only doing...
I mean, I guess like smaller plays, they have like a limited run and they run for like a
month or two and then they close and go to another city or something or they're just
over.
Yeah.
Okay.
I get it.
I get it.
But I'm sad that we won't have even the option of going to see it.
Okay.
Let's do word of the day.
Today's word of the day is...
いなづけの概念
Inazake.
It means fiancé.
And this is, again, one of those like kind of like big vocab words that I learned really
early on in studying Japanese because of anime.
Was that?
Ranma?
I think because of Ranma.
Yeah.
Because they say it all the time in the show.
Right.
So Ranma and Akane are betrothed, meaning their parents decided that they would marry
each other, which is like a trope showing up in a lot of like 80s and 90s Japanese anime,
even though I don't think it was like a thing in the culture anymore.
Right.
Did you know anyone in like your or your parents' generation whose parents set them up and forced
them to get married?
Me.
Could be not my generation, but my parents.
Really?
Yeah.
Could be.
I could see your grandparents' generation.
Oh, like my grandparents, like they met for the first time at their wedding.
Yeah.
That was messed up.
Yeah.
And they also got divorced.
That didn't go well.
So, you know, just saying.
But like in your parents' generation, even?
Maybe.
Could be a possibility.
Okay.
All right.
Well, anyway, it's a it's an interesting thought.
And like, you know, so it's I don't know, because it's like a it's a thing that doesn't really
happen anymore.
It's unusual to like, I think, know this word in that way.
Especially because, like, in the modern in modern Japanese, I think people are more likely
to say fiancé than they are to say iinazuke.
Or konnyaku-sha.
Or konnyaku-sha.
Yeah.
Engaged.
But fiancé sounds cooler.
All right.
Well, and so and what is the difference between iinazuke and konnyaku-sha?
Iinazuke has the meaning of, like you said, parents and their parents set it up.
Yeah.
It's not just people who are engaged.
It's like a betrothal where the parents made the decision.
Anyway, I thought that would be a good word of the day, both because it's a very important
word in the show in describing Ranma's relationship to at least two different women, although one
of them hasn't been introduced and I'm not sure we'll make it to the season.
And also because the new opening theme song is titled Iinazukyun.
アニメと漫画の特徴
Iinazukyun.
And there we have a portmanteau of iinazuke and kyun, which is like.
Iinazuke and zukyun.
What's zukyun?
I don't know how to describe it.
Kyun is like your heart?
Kyun is like small, zukyun is like deeper.
Oh, like deep in your heart?
Yeah.
A tightening of your heart, deep in your heart?
Yeah.
Okay.
So both you're engaged and also like doki-doki a little bit?
Yeah.
Okay.
I guess we should probably do doki-doki, which means heart beating, but like, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's iinazuke and I thought it would be a good one for today.
All right.
Perfect.
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What's up?
If you read the old Nama Manga, it has nipples.
What?
Okay.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Free the nipple.
Free the nipple.
Good to know that.
You're welcome.
Yeah.
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Yes.
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