九龍城の独特な魅力
OTTACK!
Some of the alleys are only like one or two feet across. There's not very good drainage,
so there's water in them a lot of the time. People built like ladders from rooftop to rooftop,
so you could cross the whole city without ever touching the ground. It was a really unique
type of place that I think captured like public imagination everywhere because of its like
intense urban-ness. Welcome back to 2AM OTTACK! I am your host Mayu, a born and raised Japanese
non-otaku, and... I'm Sisqo, an American otaku. In this podcast, we share reviews of anime and
manga through our distinct perspectives with commentary on Japanese culture, history,
and language. Sisqo, the spring brought a lot of new anime. Sure did. And we have watched a few
new series. We've started them, yeah. Among them, this anime might be my favorite so far. That's
interesting. The picture drawing and the character design caught my eyes and then,
you know, because it looks like anime straight up from the 90s. It does. It has a really old
feel to it that I kind of am enjoying also. Kind of got a City Hunter vibe for me, actually. Yes,
exactly. I thought it was an old one, but it isn't. Maybe it's just because they're smoking.
A lot of smoking. A lot of smoking, yeah. So today, we are going to talk about...
Kowloon Generic Romance. All right. So far, we watched the first and the second episode of
Kowloon Generic Romance. As we introduce this new anime, we will dive into the facts and the
history of Kowloon World City, which actually existed in Hong Kong. Also, we will discuss the
feeling of nostalgia in Kowloon Generic Romance and some more information about the anime and the
live-action movie. And finally, today's word of the day. Before we start, thank you to all the
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『Kowloon Generic Romance』の紹介
All right. Let's go. I got the introduction, Kowloon Generic Romance from Wikipedia.
Okay. So let me read it. Wait, wait. Is this for the manga or the anime?
Both. Why? Sure, there's no spoilers? No. Okay. Look, I'm going to like really fly off the handle
as usual and just make like wild predictions about where this is going. So I really don't want any
spoilers. I trust you. Maybe. Kowloon Generic Romance is a Japanese manga series written and
illustrated by Jun Mayuzuki. It has been serialized in Shueisha's Weekly Young Jump
since November 2019, with this chapter collected in 11 tankobon volumes of April 2025. The story
is set in Kowloon World City, Hong Kong. An anime television series adaptation produced by
Arubo Animation premiered in April 2025, and a live-action film adaptation is set to open
in Japanese theaters in August the same year. So they're doing just a one-off movie. Yeah. I
think so. Yeah. It's going to be a lot of tankobon volumes to fit in one movie, but okay. Or maybe
not. Maybe they want to keep making the movie. It's going to be another one of these Golden
Kamui situations. Like I just don't know, but yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't think it's going to be
like Golden Kamui because Golden Kamui is doing like TV series, then like a big part in movie,
and then it keeps continues, but they don't do that like whole series in TV drama and the whole
series in movie. Right. Yeah. Okay. Which is a little bit, yeah, annoying. See how it plays out.
Okay. So Sisko, I'm going to ask you to summarize and tell us what Kowloon Generic Romance is.
Okay. So again, we're only two episodes in, so surely there's lots more plot coming,
but it centers around a woman named Reiko Kujidai, and she works at a real estate
office in Kowloon, Walled City together with what seems like only two other people, her boss,
物語の紹介とキャラクター
who's like an older dude, and her coworker, Kudo Hajime. Wow. You have a good memory.
Well, I mean, they all kind of sound like characters from like other shows, honestly.
Kujidai is a pretty unusual name. Reiko like is written in English on the picture, and so is
Hajime. And then, you know, they talk a lot about his name starting with a, you know, ha,
for it means like you're going to get rich and stuff. Anyway, and Kudo is like from Detective
Conan, which this also has like some things in common with in terms of its age, I feel like.
Anyway, she works there. And even in the very opening, there's a lot of stuff about
a potentially nefarious mega corporation that is called, I think, Hebinuma Pharmaceuticals,
that's producing some eye drops and has also created something called the Generic Terra,
which is a floating prism in the sky that like glows and pulsates. And yeah, it seems like really
freaky and weird. So they're living in Kowloon. The Generic Terra is floating in the sky,
and she works in real estate alongside her coworker. And it's kind of a love story,
right? It says generic romance. They seem to be at least attracted to each other. They both seem
to be about the same age in their early thirties. They go and eat lunch together, what seems like
every day. And very shortly after the beginning of the show, you realize the main character,
Reiko, doesn't have any memories, doesn't know who she is, really how she got there,
or a lot of other stuff. And she finds a picture of someone who looks exactly like her being
engaged to the coworker. And the coworker's attitude towards her is bizarre. He runs really hot and
cold. He randomly kisses her out of nowhere. And then it's like, sorry, I thought you were someone
else. Like he, you know, he always wants to go and eat the same restaurants. And there's a lot
about the word nostalgia. It does the, you know, and then in the second episode, we get what seems
like maybe a flashback or memory or just a different story or something of Reiko, but with a
different voice, different voice actress and everything, who seems much more sort of confident.
Looks like she was the boss. She was Kudo's boss.
She was, I think she was Kudo's senpai, but I don't think she was the boss. I mean, I could
be wrong about that, but I think she's his senpai and she seems to be showing him the ropes in the
same way that Kudo seems to be showing the other Reiko the ropes, like in the original episode. So
it seems to suggest really early on that there's like an earlier version of her or memories she's
suppressed or something of her relationship with the same guy. And in the memories, there's no
generic terror floating in the sky. So that's kind of a summary of like what's happened so far.
謎の深化
There also is a bar or like a cafe, a cafe that Kudo takes her to where the bar owner mistakes her
for someone he already knows, which she doesn't know him. So it's a big mystery.
Yeah. I didn't know it was a mystery. I didn't know any information about this anime
me either when I was watching and there was like something in behind. It's like more than like
a love story. Yeah, it's I mean, in the beginning, it seems maybe just like it's a romance between
the two, but almost immediately there start to be like mysteries of like, what happened to her
memory? How come she doesn't seem to need to wear glasses anymore? Who's the other Reiko in the
picture? Why doesn't she remember going to this cafe? Or who's the other person or whatever?
Kudo's attitude towards her as she tries to become more like the other Reiko is really complicated.
Reiko is into Kudo.
Oh, yeah, the Reiko we meet at the beginning is definitely kind of like attracted to him.
But he's really weird to her. He's kind of like borderline abusive. You don't think so?
No, I don't think so.
Okay.
ノスタルジーとキャラクターの関係
Which part?
When he kisses her like without any consent after waking up from a nap on the couch and then just
walks away being like, oh, sorry, I thought you were somebody else and just leaves.
Yeah, he thought that was somebody else. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, maybe he's just like a typical like 80s Japanese man, essentially. But like
his treatment of her seems like both weird and like, not cool to me. Like, yeah, like filled with
like male privilege for sure. But like, also like weirdly hot and cold. Like sometimes he seems really
into her. And then other times he's like, weirdly like not into her. And she's very confused by that
understandably, right? Particularly by the picture of like old her with him as they were engaged.
So we also have been introduced to a character who's had plastic surgery all over her entire
body to change herself entirely from who she used to be, who becomes friends with sort of
New Reiko. And I think that's all the real characters we've met so far.
Like a doctor.
The little girl. There's a sort of like evil seeming doctor who wears lipstick,
snake man with a snake tongue. There's also like a little girl who New Reiko seems sort of attached
to. Okay, that's what we got.
All right. So I wanted to talk about nostalgia. Seems like a very important keyword in this anime.
Definitely.
Kudo feels nostalgia from the city. And Reiko somehow feels nostalgia from Kudo.
Yeah.
Why is that?
So I think one of the themes here is the city of Kowloon, the walled city anyway, no longer exists.
It was entirely demolished in 1993-94 by the British government of Hong Kong. And the whole
city was knocked down and made into a park. The only part of it that survived was the very,
very central Yamen that was like a community center when the city existed and was the center
of like the fort that was originally constructed there. It definitely seems like the author is
either expressing some nostalgia for Kowloon or is playing with the idea of nostalgia for a place
by creating characters who feel nostalgia for the city of Kowloon, even if the author themself never
actually lived there. But because it's a place that was demolished and doesn't exist anymore,
that seems like a big part of this idea of nostalgia.
Why does Reiko feel nostalgia from Kudo?
So I think the inclusion of the generic Terra in this story strongly suggests that this is going
to be like a sci-fi mystery. And from the very beginning, the show really has given me like
Vanilla Sky vibes. And I guess you don't know that movie, right? Shall I spoil Vanilla Sky at
all or no?
When was it released?
Like the early 2000s, I think, or at least the mid-2000s?
I don't know.
Well, it's kind of good. It's a Tom Cruise movie, which makes me feel complicated about it. But
Vanilla Sky is about a guy who's living in perpetual suspended animation. He's basically
asleep and having a dream because he was in a really bad car accident that ruined his face.
And he's so upset with the way his life's going that he decides to die early by going into cryo
sleep and having the company manipulate a dream for him that he's living inside. Inside the dream,
he starts to realize that things are kind of wrong and that he can control everything.
And it freaks him out. And he eventually decides to wake back up from his cryo sleep because he
can't handle being in that made-up sort of dreamland. And the generic Terra to me really
feels like we're inside somebody's memories. And the emphasis on how important nostalgia is in the
show really makes me think that the world that the characters are living in is either a made-up world
that the generic Terra is creating for them or is sort of like a memory itself. I think
Kowloon no longer existing in 2024 world also makes me kind of think that this is somebody
シミュレーションと思い出
reliving their past. And I know it could go in a bunch of other directions, clones,
maybe just amnesia. Somebody has a computer program, they're in a matrix, whatever. But I
think I get really that type of vibe from the show. And I think to me, that makes me think
about this question of if you could return to some portion of your life and live that portion
of your life over again in a simulation, would you? Are there times or people you would want to
return to badly enough to go into that type of situation on purpose and sort of redo it? And
if a company could offer you that option, would you take it? So I don't know if this is going to
be like, oh, we're in a memory, we're in a simulation, somebody's a robot or a clone or
whatever. But it feels like some of that stuff is going to come up later.
I definitely felt nostalgia by just by watching it was in the pictures and especially the like
Lakewood's like really sharp chin. It's very like shoujo manga style.
That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really is.
From 90s and big eyes and big boobs and yeah.
Totally.
Yeah, everything.
I don't know that the big boobs is something I associate with shoujo manga particularly.
That's true. It doesn't have to be, I guess. Yeah.
Yeah. But there is there's this has more fan service than I expected. And I guess there's
a level on which the intentionally kind of old style of the show, the graphic style of the show
is also nostalgic. And so it's a little bit of like a meta thing for the people who are watching
also getting that same feeling of nostalgia. Even if we haven't experienced Kowloon at all,
and don't have any nostalgic feelings about that place, we might have nostalgic feelings about this
type of show or this type of art.
Kowloonの歴史
All right, let's talk about Kowloon. And before I'm going to ask you to tell us all about the
history, let's make sure about the pronunciation.
Okay, so I don't feel super sure about this pronunciation, actually,
because it's not a word I've ever actually heard, I think, according to a Google search,
Americans pronounce it Kowloon, British pronounce it Kowloon. And in Cantonese, it's Kowloon.
Sounded like, yeah.
Right. And so...
Wait, in Japanese.
And in Japanese, it's Kowloon. So it's kind of hard to fit all those different pieces together.
I think in this show, obviously, we're using Kowloon as the pronunciation. But yeah, I mean,
Cantonese is the language of the region. So that feels like the most appropriate name is Kowloon.
But I don't know if I can actually do any justice to that pronunciation.
So I'll be sticking with Kowloon.
Yeah. All right. So Kowloon, the city really existed in Hong Kong. And when?
So the fort was built a really long time ago, but it was basically uninhabited for a long time.
So definitely the Song dynasty set up a military outpost to manage the salt trade in the region.
But basically, you know, there were only like 30 people living there up through the 1600s.
It was not a heavily populated area. A small coastal fort was established around 1810,
after Chinese forces abandoned Tung Lung Fort. In 1842, this is probably when it really matters,
Hong Kong got given to Britain after the Treaty of Nanking, which ended the first opium war.
And so at that point, Britain took over the area south of Kowloon. And the Qing authorities were
kind of afraid that in the aftermath of the war, there might be more British aggression.
So they established this fort north of Hong Kong Island that they had given to the British
to be like, we'll use this fort in case we have to fight them again later.
But it was taken over by rebels during the Taiping Rebellion and then taken back.
When Britain negotiated with China in 1898 about basically leasing Hong Kong for like
九龍城寨の歴史
the foreseeable future, they got a lease for the next 99 years. The British were like,
we want more territory. We don't just want the island of Hong Kong. We want some like
territory on the mainland too. And that area completely surrounded where the fort was,
but did not include the fort. And so all of the area around the fort belonged to the British,
but the fort continued to belong to the Chinese. And I think like realistically,
it wasn't going to like do anything at that point, right? The British forces did attack
the walled city in like 1899, and all the soldiers were gone. Like there was like the
guy running it, the Mandarin, and 150 residents. And that was it.
When the Qing dynasty finally lost power in 1912, they gave the city to the British. And the British
basically didn't do anything with it for a long time because they were like, we're like running
Hong Kong over here. We don't even really need this fort, whatever. So in 1933, they wanted to
destroy it, but there were like about 400 people living there. And the nationalist government of
China at the time was like, whoa, timeout. We didn't actually decide to give that to you. That's
still ours. And then World War II happened. Japanese took over like the entire region.
It was sort of irrelevant, you know, who owned it because Japan was occupying it. And then at the
end of World War II, the British again were like, well, how about we take it over? And the Chinese
nationalist government was like, no, that's still ours. And for a while, it was just this unresolved
problem of like, who owns this? Where the nationalist Chinese government said it was
theirs and the British were like, we'd really like to run it and kind of nobody ran it.
And from the 50s through the 1970s, because there was this absence of anyone actually like
doing the government there, it became like a haven for triads and triads basically took it over.
And it was like a lawless zone of like gambling, prostitution, drug use and crime. And it wasn't
until the 1973, 1974, where the British government sent in like a ton of police to like clean it up,
at least a little bit, that it finally got to be like not run by triads. And so then from the 70s
through the 90s, it was like, there's still this sort of like weird gray area like zone where it
wasn't fully under British control, but like British people policed it. But like, the laws
were sort of unclear because like who really owns this territory. And so I think for a very long time,
unlicensed doctors and dentists were like a big part of the Kowloon economy, because like,
no one would come check for their licenses. So it's got like a weird past. And the city itself
is incredibly small. It's smaller than four football fields. And yet by the late 1980s,
33,000 people lived there. And it just kept getting big, like the population grew really
rapidly after World War Two as refugees from the Chinese Civil War, like, like came to Hong Kong
and then lived in Kowloon because it was cheap. And some other things that happened that like
really gave it a unique character is, you know, it's it's this very small zone, but there were
lots of people who wanted to live there. And so the buildings kept getting taller and taller.
Because Hong Kong's main airport until like the late 90s was also there, they couldn't build the
buildings any taller than 14 stories. And so it was, I think the most densely populated area on
earth where like, had it been bigger, you would have had an estimated like 3 million people per
square mile or something. And it was crazy, like so many tall buildings meant that there was no
light reaching the bottom of the streets. So they had like street lamps on in the day, some of the
allies or alleys are only like one or two feet across, there's not very good drainage. So there's
九龍城の都市像
water in them a lot of the time, people built like ladders from rooftop to rooftop. So you could
cross the whole city without ever touching the ground. It was a really unique type of place
that I think captured like public imagination everywhere because of its like intense urbanness.
And so in the same way that like New York, I think is kind of like a model for like metropolis,
like all around the world. I think Kowloon was sort of like image of like what urban poverty
might look like, not just in like the modern day, but also sort of in like the future, you know.
And so a lot of movies were shot there, both when it was a regular city and right before it was
destroyed. And I think a lot of popular media like fixates on this idea of like this extremely
densely urban space that's based on the city. Thank you. That was a lot. Sorry.
You're telling me about the doctors and dentists without license,
maybe the new character we saw on the episode two, like a snake guy could be one of them.
Yeah, definitely seems like the reference to Hibinuma Pharmaceuticals might be sort of
like a callback to that aspect of Kowloon's history. He strikes me as also having a lot
in common with like Japanese Zaibatsu people who are sort of like operating like above the law with
like very little government supervision and doing whatever the hell they want. But yeah, I think
there's an aspect of like a way in which that fits with Kowloon's history too.
So what's in there right now?
So in 1993 and 1994, the British government paid everybody who lived there to move out and help
them relocate, forcibly evicted some people, and then bulldozed the entire city with the exception
of the central Yemen, place that had been the governor's mansion, like even before it became
a major city. And now it's just a huge public park that was like designed by architects in the 90s
and then like reopened in 95, 96, somewhere around there. So now it's a public space.
But everything else is gone.
ゲームと記憶
I see. So the author of Kowloon Generic Romance played this video game called Kowloon's Gate
on PlayStation, and that's where she got inspired.
Yeah. So that's a game from 1997 that itself came out after Kowloon was already demolished,
but that like, you know, plays with a lot of the same tropes about urbanity and sort of like,
the danger that existed there and its heyday and stuff. And I've never played it and I know very
little about the game, but I think it's interesting. So she must not be old enough
to have remembered actually living in Kowloon then? Would you say that? Is that true about
the author? Do we know how old she is? Our age, like 41.
Okay. So then she could have notionally visited the city as a young teen or a child, maybe?
I don't think she ever visited. I think she visited Taiwan.
But not actually Kowloon. Okay. So it might be that this is being made by someone who has no
direct personal experience of the city, but who is using it as a metaphor for memory in general,
or that feeling of nostalgia for a place that is no longer there.
声優の紹介
Yeah. All right. Let me introduce some voice actors. Reiko Kujirai is by Haruka Shiraishi,
and then Reiko Kujirai B, the other Reiko, is by Yuriko Yamaguchi, who did Voice 4.
Akagi Ritsuko from Neon Genesis Evangelion, which is one of the few voices that I actually
recognized and was like, wait, I've heard this person. I know that's Ritsuko. Yeah.
She is also Nico Robin. Yeah, that's right. I think I knew that.
Yeah, you did? Yes.
Yeah. That's awesome. And then Hajime Kudo is by Tomokazu Sugita. There's a lot of like
Sakamoto Taro or Mushoku Tensei. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A lot of stuff. I like his voice a lot. And the opening theme song is Summertime Ghost by
Wednesday Campanella. And this is the same people who did the Akaneko song?
Yep. The Akaneko song. Which
you only watched one episode, two episodes of? Two, I think.
Two, okay. But yeah, I immediately was like, oh, it's the Akaneko song, people.
I think I like the voice a lot, quite a lot. Interesting. I mean, I don't think I really
expected you to say that, actually. I know, me neither. But like,
it's kind of appealing. Okay, I'll take it.
Ending theme song is Koi no Retronym by Mekakushi.
Yeah, I like this one. Why?
I don't know. I just do. I don't know why their name is Mekakushi.
And they're like, the spelling is M-E-K-A-K-U-S-H-E.
So Mekakushi. Are they all girls or something?
I don't know. I thought it was one person. Mekakushi.
Well, she's a girl, right? Yeah.
Okay. Probably. I mean, look, you know what? I shouldn't, I shouldn't actually assume that.
She has a feminine sounding voice. The person who's the singer has a feminine sounding voice.
There we go.
And the live action movie is coming up this August. And Reiko Kujira is Miho Yoshioka,
who you know. She did the main, like, director role on Haken Anime.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Which was an interesting movie. She was also in the Naku Kowai Nega as well.
Don't remember her from that, but I take your word for it.
All right. And then Hajime Kuro is by Koushi Mizukami.
All right. Anything you want to say about the live action movie?
I mean, like, I think I'm not thrilled to know that it's coming out so soon,
only because for stories like this one that are, you know, that have any element of sci-fi,
and where there's any kind of mystery, like, I want to solve the mystery. I don't want the
mystery to be spoiled for me by a movie that, like, summarizes all of the stuff, like, faster
coming out and being like, and the ending is da-da-da-da-da. You know what I mean?
And I feel like it's going to be hard to avoid that once the movie's out somehow. So,
like, hopefully the anime will have gone far enough by the time the movie comes out.
Yeah.
There's not that many spoilers.
Right.
To be, like, ruined by it. And if they're doing the golden comedy model of, like, movie and then
TV show, maybe they won't get as far as, like, where the anime is anyway. And then I won't have
to, like, worry about this problem.
I don't think like that.
Yeah, I don't think that's going to be it either. So I'm not, I don't know.
I don't really understand the, like, desire to produce successful manga in every other form
simultaneously. Like, I kind of wish they would, like, give more time between adapting it for,
like, one way and another way. Like, this is true for Aneku, right? Aneku's, like, coming out
immediately as both an anime and a live action, like, in the same year.
Yes, that's really quick.
Spread it out a little bit, guys. Let it finish in one medium before you start it in another.
And, like, I get that, like, anime often kick off as, like, adaptations of manga while the manga
is still running, especially if the manga is pretty popular and they're trying to cash in
on the success of the manga by making an anime right away. But I think it's, like, I don't know.
To me, it's, like, usually a mistake because then you got to do some filler arcs in order to let the
manga get ahead enough of the story again, or you got to, like, just give it a hiatus or something.
And it's kind of better when the story's over and you can just focus on producing all of the
anime. It's like Game of Thrones, you know? Huge mistake to try to make Game of Thrones the TV
show before you finished the book. I mean, yeah, is George R. R. Martin going to finish ever? Like,
who knows? But, like, that was great until they outstripped the book's material and then it
immediately fell off in quality. Like, so that's how I kind of feel about adaptations. It's like,
アニメの放送とライブアクション
you should let the source material, like, wrap up before you start the adaptation unless, like,
you've got so much stuff to work through that it's going to be okay.
I don't know what is going on with the current generic romance, but for Ameku,
I am not sure if anime is going to be renewed.
No kidding.
Maybe that's why they're like, okay, we can move on to live action.
You mean, like, even from the first couple episodes, they were like, guys, it's not doing
well. Let's immediately junk it over. I mean, like, I sort of get that as an argument, except
if the anime didn't do well, what makes you think it's going to do well as a live action?
It's a different character. And it's the same characters, but acted very differently in person.
I guess so. But I think that can't possibly be true. I think they must have started planning for
both simultaneously before any of them came out. It's not like they started planning the
live action after the anime came out, right?
We don't know.
I don't think so. That's not how, like, film production, well, I mean, it's not how film
production works in the United States. Maybe in Japan, they're like, let's just throw this
thing together in a couple months, guys.
Could be possible.
Maybe. I don't know. I also, like, I don't know, my comment about Ameku, like, not getting
renewed is really based on the Sakugahoukai that happened in episode 10. The first couple
episodes were fine. Like, I don't know. It's not really about, like, me not understanding,
like, the economics of wanting to produce, like, all the stuff at the same time to, like,
ride the wave and cash in on the popularity immediately. It's the, like, consumer part
of me that's like, space these things out. Give a couple years before you reboot. Like,
this isn't Spider-Man, folks. You know, we don't need a reboot every five years.
懐かしいの意味
Okay. Let's do Word of the Day.
Today's Word of the Day is Natsukashii.
Yeah.
What does it mean?
It means nostalgic, but I kind of feel like it has some other meanings beyond just nostalgic.
You can tell me whether this is accurate or not, but I feel like when someone describes
something as Natsukashii, there's a little bit of like, oh, I guess this is true in nostalgia
too, like longing for that thing.
Yeah.
Sometimes it's just, it's, you know, there's not a lot of emotional weight. It's just like,
oh, that really takes me back. Right?
Right.
And so I think nostalgia is probably the right translation of Natsukashii,
which I think is interesting that, I mean, nostalgia has got to be like a Greek root,
I think, but that the concept of longing for or sort of missing an experience from the past
is such like a universal human emotion that we have a word that translates really easily,
probably from like Greek roots all the way into Japanese without any like actual influence on the
development of that word, just because all humans feel that kind of emotion at some point.
So you hear a lot of Natsukashii in this anime, and that's a useful word.
Yeah. It's sort of like, that reminds me of,
right, or this feels like this old sensation or something like that.
All right. Anything else you'd like to add?
ストーリーの展望
I'm very curious to see where this show goes and would be really also curious in hearing people who
are watching the show as it comes out, their opinions or thoughts about what the generic
Terra actually is. Are we dealing with a story about memory loss? Are we dealing with a story
about clones? Are we dealing with a story about a computer simulation or some other world? What's
going on with Hebinuma Pharmaceuticals? And what do you think about where this story is going?
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