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2025-12-21 10:46

オフィス内カフェのコーヒーをテイスティング

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このエピソードでは、オフィス内のクリコーセーカフェで行われるコーヒーテイスティングについて語られています。参加者は、ブラジルコーヒーの香りや味わいを体験し、好みの風味や豆の特徴について議論します。特に、黒糖や甘さを引き立てる要素に焦点が当てられています。また、コーヒーのテイスティングを通じて、伝統的な喫茶店文化や新しい第三波コーヒーの種類について話し合われています。オフィス内カフェでは、コーヒーの品質や味わいを深く理解することが討論されています。

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Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast.
Hello.
クリコーセーカフェでのコーヒーテイスティング
Oh, so I bought this coffee.
We were talking about this coffee shop.
It's like right over here on the same floor of this office.
Yeah.
クリコーセーカフェ
Really cheap.
Yeah.
It was 220円 or something.
Amazing.
And you say it's a quality coffee.
Yes.
So I'm going to try it.
Yeah.
That's iced coffee.
It's an iced coffee.
It's a Brazilian coffee.
OK, OK.
Brazilian beans.
Let me go for the aroma first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because that's the professional way.
Yeah.
All right, let me...
How's that?
Let me get real.
OK, OK.
I don't know.
You don't...
What do you...
I can smell my...
my soap on my hand.
Yeah.
OK, OK.
大地の...
Not bad.
大地の広がる...ね
大地の広がる...ね
Can I smell it?
Yes, yes, yes.
Thank you, thank you.
I think you'll understand what I'm talking about.
OK.
大地の...ね
広がるね
Mmm.
いい匂い
Good.
Good smell.
Good smell.
Nice.
Nice?
Yeah.
Iced coffee tend to have less aroma than the hot ones.
But how's this?
Still, you know, right?
Even if it's iced.
Good aroma.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's good.
I guess this is good, you know, yeah.
Yeah, I think this is good.
Good, oh, nice, nice.
Right, whenever I taste cheap iced coffee,
there's this...
there's just something in it.
There's something...
Yeah.
It's sharp.
For me, it feels sharp.
OK, OK.
But I don't feel any of that.
Oh, nice, nice, nice.
It's great, I like it.
Nice.
Great amount of acidity.
Yeah, the earthy flavors there.
Yeah, I like it.
Good, good, good, good.
I wanted to go for the latte, but they said it was closed.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, it was like 15 minutes before closing time.
So, yeah, pretty good.
Nice.
You prefer Brazil as a bean?
I didn't know what the difference were.
OK.
I just went with the middle one in there.
Oh, OK, OK, OK.
You probably went for the lighter one.
Yeah, this was Rwanda.
Rwanda.
Yeah.
OK, OK.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What taste do you feel?
I also taste berries, like the freshness of the berries.
Huh.
Um.
It really brings me back to my Starbucks.
Oh, yeah.
I was forced to verbalize the flavor, and I had no idea.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Can I just have one?
Go ahead, man, go ahead.
Let me make it clean, as a cup, to that.
Thank you.
Oh.
So.
Oh.
Tell me what the flavor is, Yamachan.
What do you feel?
It's not dark.
I thought it's more darker.
It's like more punchy, like a bitter.
OK.
コーヒーの風味と特徴
But I would say shoyu senbei.
Really?
No, you should try that.
Shoyu senbei?
It's very like, yeah, it's very much like shoyu senbei,
but like nori.
OK, OK.
Now I get where you're coming from.
You see that?
I kind of get where you're coming from, yes.
Yeah.
Well, that's it.
Anything else?
What about the berries and the earthiness?
Does that come to you?
You know how the acidity is kind of similar to the freshness
of the berries?
I see, OK.
True, true.
Yeah, it's kind of like acid one.
Well, it's not like very, very fruity to me.
But it's like to me, like a soy saucy.
Soy sauce, like the shoyu?
Yeah, I think it's similar to the shoyu senbei.
I feel like that, like a, I don't know, it's like a,
kind of like a okoge or those things.
Is that good for you?
Is that good?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What tends to be the flavor you get when you drink the
coffees that you really love?
Oh, I love, it tastes like kokuto.
Like a brown sugar taste is what I love.
But you like the lighter ones, right?
Yes.
OK, OK.
Yeah, there are sometimes it's very light.
At the same time, it's, it has like very sweet, sweetness
kind of, like a.
Brown sugar.
Like a, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sato kibi kind of.
OK.
That's what I like.
Yeah, other than that, like.
There's not really much, it doesn't matter.
OK, OK.
But I love those, like.
You just love the kokuto?
Yeah, like kibi sato.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow, I've never experienced that ever in my life, so.
Yeah.
So I'm assuming you can't get any of that in Starbucks?
Never experienced it?
So to me, Starbucks beans are like a too strong, like a too
punchy, like too bitter.
I see.
So that, like the bitterness is like too big.
Oh, OK.
Compared to other of those, like berriness, sugarness.
I don't know, like fruity and everything.
I just only feel the bitterness.
And then it's very hard for me to find the other elements.
Oh, I see.
So that's why I prefer like those light, light ones.
Because the bitterness is like very small.
So it's kind of easy for me to find those, like kind of
out of my mind, things like that.
I get, OK, I see, that's why.
So that's why I prefer having those light coffee.
Makes sense.
Makes it, like to me, it's more fun, kind of.
Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
Wow.
Do you, like, is there days where you want to go for like a really dark roast?
伝統と新しい波のコーヒー
Yeah, like not recent days.
But for example, when I was in Kyoto,
Kyoto has like very, you know, traditional kisaten bunka.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they have like very, very dark, like...
The darkest of the darkest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like very kisaten coffee.
And I was into that, those coffee at the moment.
And I enjoy that, those coffee at the moment when I was in Kyoto.
I see, I see.
But they have...
So in Kyoto, there were two types of kind of industry, coffee industry.
One is like the traditional, traditional coffee kisaten.
They're good too.
And now like a new coffee, like a third wave of things.
Yeah, like blue bottles and those, like those types coming into Kyoto
and blending into Kyoto machiya, but very light roasted coffee.
And at the beginning, I was into this world.
Yeah.
But later, I...
You discovered a third wave.
Yeah, yeah.
And found like, oh, this is fun.
Okay, interesting.
And now I'm kind of like a tang, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nice, nice.
Interesting, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interesting, yeah.
So Brazil's tend to be more darker, like more deeper.
But that one isn't that dark.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
True, true, true, true.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's kind of surprising for you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, I would say it's peaceful coffee.
Peaceful coffee.
Like it's very...
You can enjoy at any moments in your day, kind of.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, it's not strong.
Yeah.
Good.
Coffee.
Is this...
Okay, I'm getting headaches now.
Oh, really?
Is this aging?
Is this...
You just had...
What just happened?
I just had this much of coffee.
And it's not even oily.
No.
It's probably caffeine.
Doesn't caffeine give some people headaches?
Obviously not you, but some people get headaches from coffee, right?
Can be.
I think I became that type.
Oh.
Not before?
No, I've never...
That never happened.
I always get lattes.
I never get iced coffees or, you know...
Yeah.
Iced coffees, they have much more caffeine content inside compared to latte.
Latte?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
I searched it.
Oh, okay.
It does, it does.
So...
Oh, maybe that...
It's gotten into me.
Oh.
Oh, man.
But it's very quick now.
It is very...
Yeah.
Yeah, it is very quick.
But caffeine is the only factor that I can think of that's giving me a headache.
It's not that cold.
コーヒーのテイスティング
It's different from like you had ice cream and kakigori once.
No, no, no.
It's different from that?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh.
Damn.
All right, I'll go easy on the caffeine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can drink if you don't want to.
I'll give it to you.
Yeah.
All right.
Thanks for sitting, guys.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
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