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I didn't hear a sound.
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I was watching soccer yesterday.
Oh.
Football.
Which game?
Okay, so that's what I wanted to talk to you about.
Oh, okay.
Said the E1.
Oh, okay.
What the hell was that?
E1カップとワールドカップの違い
So, I guess that was Japanese national team versus China, right?
That's like, I guess that's East Asian number one cup.
Is that related to World Cup?
No, I don't think so.
So even if you win or lose, it will not affect their...
It's a different thing.
I see.
Yeah.
Completely different tournament.
Yeah.
I see.
Yeah.
I see.
Um, so you have World Cup Qualifications Tournament and World Cup Honsen.
That's a one big thing.
Okay.
And you have those things, E1 Cup.
I guess that's East Asian.
So, Japan, China, Korea.
Australia.
Yeah.
I think they have Australia.
Yeah.
Those like East Asian countries compete to each other.
And also you have Asian Cup, which includes West Asians too, like in Iraq, India, yeah.
Okay.
Saudi Arabia, some of those countries.
I see.
And, yeah, right.
And, um, see, I was excited, right?
Because like, you know, the World Cup right now this year, Japan's really big.
Like, they're winning huge.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, yes, I get to see them again.
It was still Mori Yasu, Kantoku.
Yeah.
But the team members were like, the only person I recognized was Mori, sorry, Nagatomo.
Nagatomo-san.
Yes.
Mr. Nagatomo.
And that's it.
The others, I didn't, I did not recognize.
Like all the other people that I knew, like, you know, Kubo-san, Mitomo-san, they were not there.
Yeah.
試合の様子と観客の反応
And neither were the crowds.
The crowds were not there as well.
It was like, there's a lot of open spots.
They're like, so they won.
I'm sorry, but was I not supposed to say that?
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, they won.
Yeah.
But they were like, none of them were like, none of them were cheering.
Every, so it's like, you know, they won the moment the whistle blew.
Because usually you have like, you know, the members celebrating, right?
But they were all like, all right, all right, let's go home.
Let's get some sleep.
All right, we're done, let's go.
Nobody was like celebrating.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What the hell's up with the energy?
What's going on?
What's going on?
So, that's a really good point, I guess.
試合のデバイスとA代表の意義
But, so on what device did you watch that game?
Like, on-
TV.
That was on TV?
Live, live.
On live?
Yeah.
I guess in like, huge miniballs?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
It was like, TVS or something.
Okay, so it was the, we call them, A代表.
Okay.
That's a top, the highest level of Japanese national team, A代表.
That obviously includes the best players, such as Kubo-san, Mitoma-san.
Sure.
Everybody, Endo-san.
That's A代表.
In that E1 tournament, that was A代表のトーナメント.
Okay.
That's true.
That's why the head coach was Moriyasu-san.
Okay.
But, it's just East Asian tournament, and kind of don't care about that.
The area's too small?
Yeah, I mean, it's not that important as a title.
Yeah, I mean, I get that how the Olympic includes the whole world, you know, and to win-
World Cup.
Right, World Cup.
Sure, yeah.
World Cup includes every country, so it's like, to win a World Cup means you're the top of the
world.
That's great.
And I get that, you know, East Asian, it's just a really small sector of the whole world.
Not as important as Olympic, I get, World Cup, yeah, I get that.
So is that the reason why?
Yeah, basically, that's the reason why.
I see.
And, so the reason why they don't, like, so, the players, like professional football players,
E1トーナメントの重要性
they belong to the clubs.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
For example, Mitoma-san, he belongs to the Brighton.
Yes.
That we went together.
But he's Japanese guy, so he's also selected to the Japanese national team.
Sure.
But he gets his money from this club.
He's a professional player and who has contract with that club.
Yes.
And sometimes, for the players, the clubs are more important to just fly 15 hours to
get back to Japan or East Asian country, then do some not that really, really important games.
I see.
And then just have to get back.
It's less...
It's not worth it.
Yeah, for the players and also as a JFA, that's Japanese Football Association,
the association side, they don't want to, like, overuse those important players.
Oh.
They don't want to, like, let them come to Japan and with the jisas and play,
possibility of injuries and everything, and just get back.
And they have to keep the player away from the club, kind of steal the opportunity
of prove themselves in the highest league.
And so, that's why those things sometimes happen.
Oh, I see.
So, for this EA E1 tournament, that was, I guess, mainly, like, from the J.League players.
Moriyasu-san saw the whole J.League players, which is everybody's in Japan,
and then select from the best players from J.League.
OK, I see, I see.
But that's also, it has a good size too, which is, you can find good players in Japan.
Yeah.
Like, younger age, hidden talented players.
Yes.
The players who hasn't played, like, as a national team.
Right, right.
So, that's also a good size.
Yeah, I get that.
For the coach too, for Moriyasu-san too.
So, for those players, those games are important to prove themselves that they can play actually.
Yeah.
And then, if they score a goal, if they make a good performance, and then, maybe next time,
maybe World Cup, they can be selected.
So, that's what it is.
But they all are a member of the Nihon Daihyou, no?
So, Moriyasu-san selects, I guess, around 24 to 26 players for the competition every time.
OK.
So, for E1 tournament, Moriyasu-san selected this team.
I see.
And then, see the players' performances, and then, let's say, you have next something competition
next time, and then, Moriyasu-san would pick.
Just every single one of them.
Yeah.
I see.
So that he makes a new team for that.
So, he already made selection for the World Cup.
Oh, it changes?
Yeah, he changes.
Oh, I see.
So, for the qualifications tournament, he made a decision.
But for the Honsen, it's a different...
It could change?
Yeah, it can change.
Wow, I didn't know that.
Right.
So, that's why it's good for them to...
Right.
So, if they could appeal to the kantoku during E1, they could get in the World Cup.
Right.
I see.
I see.
Yeah.
So, that's why winning was not as important.
It's more like, how can I show my skills during this match time?
You're right.
I see.
Right, right, right.
I see.
Well, of course, if you be too selfish, and every time you get a ball, you shoot, that's
going to be not...
That's not going to be...
Yeah, of course.
It's just terrible.
Yeah.
But...
I see.
Yeah.
I see.
That's kind of important.
That's why.
Yeah.
And for the people like Mitoma-san or like those Kubo-san and players like them, the
important thing for them is prove themselves in their clubs.
Yeah.
So, they have to focus on what they're doing in the club.
You know, we have like different tacticals and everything.
So, that's why it's kind of risky to bring those players back for a few periods.
True.
Yeah.
Now that makes sense.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
I see.
サッカー選手の選考
So, years ago, Kaz-san, you know Kaz-san?
Yeah.
He made a great performance on the qualifications.
And then Japan finally made a success.
And finally, we can participate in the World Cup Games.
Yeah.
And then...
But the coach decided not to invite him in a team.
Okay.
And that can happen.
Huge backlash happened, maybe.
Yeah.
But Kaz-san was really matured and he...
But everybody was shocked.
Like, why?
Uh-huh.
He was the main guy that...
Yeah.
But, you know...
Well, something happened.
Yeah.
Something happened.
It takes a year, like a year or two years to...
From the beginning of the qualification and then that World Cup home stand.
So...
Like age-wise?
Yeah.
Oh, I see.
And like, maybe new players coming in and...
I see.
Yeah.
But still, this day was kind of a mystery.
Still, like, why didn't...
The coach included him?
Yeah.
Got it.
That happens sometimes.
Okay, I see.
Now I get the dynamic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So...
But I was curious why they, like, big broadcasting TV...
Did that on the TV.
Oh, really?
Because it's...
Oh, okay.
It's one of those shows that it's not even, like...
Yeah, I mean...
Doesn't go on, like, national television?
Well, I mean, as a football fan, it's a great thing that they broadcast E1
so that they can see the J.League players.
Yeah.
And then how good they are.
Yeah.
But, like, for you, like, oh, there's no Mitoma-san, there's no Kubo-san.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Right?
What's up with this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so...
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm happy about that.
But at the same time, I was kind of surprised, like...
Like...
Wait, maybe it's Fuji.
Oh, okay.
フジテレビの問題
You know what's happening with Fuji right now, right?
Oh.
You kind of...
Did they catch up with the news, or...?
Yeah, I kind of heard that, like...
Yeah, but I don't know the details.
Like, they got a...
Well, yeah, Jinken Mondai.
They...
One of the...
Joshiyana-san?
Yeah, the Nakai Masahiro, sort of sexually harassed...
Yeah, one of the shine, Joshiyana.
And then, like, the Fuji TV side didn't...
Not do what they were supposed to do after finding out that it happened.
Okay.
You know, it happened on a Nomikai that was related to the Bangumi,
so it was, like, kind of Fuji's responsibility to deal with the harassments that took...
But they didn't do anything.
They were, like, kind of, like...
They stood on the Nakai-san side, kind of...
While they should have, you know, took care of the, you know...
So, all the sponsors are gone now.
Really?
You should take a look at Fuji right now and look at the commercial.
It is...
There's no sponsors?
There's no sponsors.
Yeah, the first several months was, like, mostly AC.
Yeah, okay.
And then now, it's, like...
You have, like, just several sponsors back, but, like, majority of sponsors still not there.
So, what they're doing on the commercial sector is just...
They're just broadcasting the...
The commercials for that.
Wow.
You don't have any, like, the usual commercials that you see on an average TV.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Oh, so that's why they...
Oh, I see.
Maybe they don't have a...
Program to do, I guess.
Maybe.
Wow.
It's interesting what's happening in Fuji right now.
I see.
I see.
Okay.
So, it's...
Okay.
Hmm.
So, I didn't know the details like that.
I shouldn't say, like...
Well, yeah, it's gonna be...
Yeah.
What are you trying to say?
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I was, like, kind of...
You know, I shouldn't say, like, thanks to Fuji, we can see the...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
It's a little bit of a hot topic.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, that makes sense, kind of, because it's...
I see, I see, I see.
Yeah.
サッカーの人気と放送権
Because the reason why the football games have, like, gained more popularity and propelled it,
like, worldwide, the price of broadcast, like, broadcasting rights is, like, getting expensive
and more expensive and more expensive.
Okay.
So, Japanese broadcast TV companies cannot buy that anymore.
Oh, it's too expensive?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, now, like, Wow Wow's or, like, those, like, internet Apema's or, like, those companies are
buying the rights and then broadcast through the internet.
That's, like, getting more and more.
I see.
So, I was, like, why on a TV?
And it's, like, still, that's a A-daifyo, top tier, but it's still, like, E-1 tournament.
Why?
That makes sense, though.
Yeah.
Right.
I see, I see, I see.
Kind of complicated.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay.
So, that's that.
Ooh, I see.
All right.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
