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Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast.
Hello.
This one?
主食はイチゴさん。
OK.
ケビンさん、ヤマちゃん、はじめまして。
いつも楽しく学べるコンテンツを本当にありがとうございます。
胃カメラの体験
先日、sorry、本日、カプセルを飲むだけの胃カメラがあるって本当?の回を拝聴しましたが、
タイムリーなことに明日が人間ドックなので、いてもたってもいられなくメッセージを送らせていただきました。
鼻の方から入れる方が口からと比べると楽というお話をされていましたよね。
私も音からそう聞いて、初めての胃カメラを鼻からやりました。
結果、地獄でした。
苦しすぎて、もはや死の危険すら感じました。
いやー。
何なら、出産と同等、もしくはそれ以上だったとは思いません。
笑い。
いやー。
いやー。
いやー。
今年、やるよ。
OK.
3〜4ヶ月後にやらないといけない。
だから、本当に?
本当に?
そんなに難しいの?
出産と同等からそれ以上?
いやー。
いやー。
何で?
検査方法と痛み
最高の。
いやー。
もうやらない。
最後の選択は、
寝てる時にやること。
ああ。
マスウィーズを使う?
そうそう。
晩は寝てるよ。
あなたを倒します。
それからやる。
それが最も痛みのある方法だと思う。
本当だ。
それからやる?
そう。
はぁ、怖いね。
いやー。
何もやったことないでしょ?
あなたもやったことないでしょ。
ああ、僕もやったことない。
怖い。
危険な。
For the COVID test, you put a little bar kind of thing into your nose, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I didn't.
You didn't like that?
No, I didn't.
That was too much for me.
And that was like what?
Like up to here or something, right?
Yeah, it's just here.
And this is going to go all the way down here.
That's like crazy.
Oh, man.
Impossible.
Honestly.
That was impossible.
Honestly, no.
That was impossible.
So compare the mouth.
Yeah, I guess so.
I see.
So that's what I was talking about, yeah.
How do you even do that?
How do you do that?
Like how do you keep it in your throat?
You don't swallow them.
You do not swallow.
But how do you?
It's impossible.
How do you do that?
I would throw up for sure.
I'm sorry, nurse.
I'm sorry.
Yo.
Damn.
You have to keep it for a few minutes.
For a few minutes?
That's impossible.
Yeah.
That's better.
Yeah.
That's better.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's better.
That's better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
so I think it's less risky than a full-body anesthesia.
Although I'm not sure if I agree with it.
Oh.
Hmm.
人間ドックと検査の選択
Either way, I get scared and depressed every year in front of a human dog.
Yeah.
I can't help but hope that the capsule-type e-camera will become smaller and more popular.
Uh-huh.
It's been a long time, but thank you for reading it.
I sincerely hope that the three members of K.E.R. will successfully clear the e-camera and stay healthy for a long time.
Thank you.
Are you going to do it this year?
Did I say so?
No, you've never said it, but I'm just asking.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Oh.
I did like a lighter version of Ningen Dokku.
It's like a half version, I guess.
Uh-huh.
Which doesn't have e-camera.
Or barium.
No, that was so...
I would do that one, like a lighter version.
You would do the lighter version, but not the e-camera?
I would not, yes.
I don't think so.
What would be the risk that you're taking here by not doing the e-camera?
Um, you will...
Cancer?
Yeah.
胃カメラの重要性
Miss that, you know, like finding it and like a cure early in the stage, yeah, I guess so.
Well, that is important.
Yeah.
That is important, so you're not going to do it.
That's the answer I heard.
So I do this, um, little test called, um, Senchuu no...
You know the Nyoken-san?
Yeah, I mean, I did it too.
You told me about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That one, that can find the cancers.
So I replace that.
Is that...
Wait.
What part of cancer can you find with that?
It says all the body.
You don't have to do it anymore.
You don't have to do the thing, right?
Yeah.
But it's like the even lighter version of the cancer test as a cancer test.
検査への恐れ
So once something found, you have to do the actual e-camera and everything.
And after that, you have to maybe surgery and things.
Oh, okay.
But it's good if you don't find anything.
If there's nothing...
You don't have to.
That's true.
But I guess e-cameras are more powerful.
Yeah.
For sure.
Did you...
What about this?
Yeah, so I might go for that.
I'd probably go for that.
Sounds not bad.
But there's also part of me where like...
Like I should do it.
Because...
Because like...
I feel like a baby.
If I don't do it.
As a...
I feel like a weak human being.
As a grown up human man.
Yeah.
It's kind of like almost embarrassing for me to say like...
Oh, hey, Kevin, have you done the e-camera?
Like the actual without sleeping?
No.
I feel weak.
You feel like a little kid.
I feel like a little kid.
There's also part of me where like I should...
Like I should like stand up and fight against this fear.
Yeah.
And like do it.
Yeah.
But like...
Unnecessary suffering is really unnecessary.
I do feel like at the same time, so...
But you're brave.
What?
To do that.
What?
You're a really brave guy.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
That's what they all do, right?
Yeah.
From the nose or mouth.
I wonder if like...
There's a way to sort of like half test it.
Can you use like a really thin...
Like...
Some sort of like...
I don't know, like a fishing...
Fishing rope or something?
Whoa.
I'm sure that's not healthy.
Don't do it.
I wonder if you can...
I wonder if that sort of replicates the feeling.
Yeah.
Because you want to know it first.
Yeah.
Like I think like if you know it once,
that really takes away 50% of the fear.
True, true, true.
Like if you know it's coming, it's so much better mentally.
That's true, I guess.
Yeah.
But imagine like...
There are times that you eat something
like veggies, for example,
and then you thought
you bite everything
and swallowed,
but still like it's connected
and you've got things
in your mouth and then it's connected
胃カメラの不安と重要性
and like in a throat
at the same time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then you panic suddenly.
Like you can't breathe, you know?
Yeah.
If you imagine that...
Maybe that's the feeling you get all the time?
It goes through all the way down, right?
You're gonna suffocate.
You're gonna fucking...
Yo, that's scary.
Yeah, it's scary.
But you know,
it's better than getting cancer though.
Yeah, of course.
It's better than getting cancer.
Of course, yes, yes, yes.
So logically speaking,
it's better to do it, right?
Yeah.
The reason why
we're running away
from that one
is we're
fool enough
to believe that we're alright.
We don't have any.
Yeah.
And that might not be true, you know?
So,
it is scary.
Like it's
not scary to me even.
It feels like it's impossible to me.
It's not even a scary thing.
I see.
Yeah.
It means like...
It surpassed your scariness?
It's like on another level?
Yeah.
It's like you're gonna die.
Yeah.
It's the end of life.
Yeah.
But I'll probably do it
like in some sort of way.
Okay.
I'll let you know how it went.
I would love to know.
I would even go
with you and just see what's going on.
Yeah, right, right.
That would sort of help
to see what's coming.
Right, right.
Let's see the podcast recording
while you do that.
I would love to do that.
It's just a really small microphone
so it's not wired.
I guess you could do it.
I'll put it here.
Maybe you can even do it...
Maybe you can even record from a different room
maybe because it's like...
You don't have to be in the room.
And you report everything in detail.
I'll put it in the shirt
so no one would suspect.
It'll do it.
You'll just hear me gag all the time.
That would be interesting.
Very interesting.
Alright.
Thanks for listening, guys.