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Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast.
Hello.
What's up, guys?
How's it going?
Hello.
So, we talked about your first day in Korea.
How about your second day, man?
How was your second day in Korea like?
Right, so now I have my smartphone.
Right, got your smartphone back.
So, on the first day, like on the first dayevening, I sent some messages to some of myfriends.
Okay.
Who seem very, like visit Korea so many times.
Okay.
Like have knowledge in, you know, areas and townsin Korea and Seoul and everything.
Asked for some advices, like recommendations.
Sure.
Like the restaurants, cafes, and everything.
And they got some replies.
And then, the next day morning, so first of all, Iwent to cafe.
Okay.
One cafe looked good.
I searched online.
Which city was that?
I was in Gangnam.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, that was very close to the staying area, soI picked that one.
And then, I went to different cafe.
Two cafe in a row?
Yeah, two cafe in a row.
Okay.
And one of the friend replied back, I mean, theyreplied back.
One of them said, oh, I'm in Korea now.
Oh, okay.
I'm in Seoul now.
Okay.
And so, let's, and we were like, wow, you are?
And then, just let's hang out together.
And then, I went to third cafe.
Third cafe in a row?
What the hell do you drink, man?
Oh, no, no, two cafe.
And then, we meet together.
Got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
And they were like a recommended restaurant.
Korean, very local.
Okay.
And that was a gamjatang.
Gamjatang?
Is that the name of a dish?
Yeah, it's like a pot dish.
Okay.
You have like a chicken inside, white soup, notspicy.
You have mochi inside.
You have some veggies inside, potato inside.
Okay.
White?
Yeah, it was white.
Okay.
Like a white or transparent.
Transparent?
Okay.
Gamjatang.
Yeah, if I remember correctly.
It's not the one where you have like the wholechicken.
It wasn't.
It's not that, right?
The whole chicken.
It was, it was like a partial.
Many of the pictures of the gamjatang is like red.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Maybe.
But there are some that's transparent like this.
Yeah.
Kind of like that.
Kind of like that.
That was, yeah, it says gamjatang.
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Takanmari gamjatang.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
All right.
So it was the recommended place.
All right.
It was very like a dirty, I would say.
Like a, I mean, it's not something that even I canstep inside.
It's like a.
Really?
Not like I, I would say like, is it daijoubu kindof?
Okay, okay, okay.
You know.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
And, but I trust that guy.
Just the guy.
And we were full.
Okay.
We went inside.
Okay.
And then we had that dish and that was good.
Oh my god.
It was good.
We had that pot and we had like a, I don't know,like a roll, like a little onigiri.
Like you make.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Very popular.
Yeah, that one.
And yeah, that's it.
But the pot dish, that was good.
Oh man.
Okay.
The potato was good.
Okay.
Yeah.
I've never had a potato that good.
Yeah, that was good.
Okay.
So the soup and potato, that goes very, very well.
Okay.
And beside that, the potato itself was very good.
Uh-huh.
Don't know why, but it was very hokuhoku.
It was very...
It was very...
Well-prepared?
Yeah.
Well-cooked?
Yeah.
I mean, I think the potato itself was delicious.
Okay, okay.
I don't know what kind of potato they use, but...
Yeah, yeah.
It was very like a sweet hokuhoku and I love thattaste.
And we had that dish together and we were four,but two of them had a flight back to Japan.
Okay.
So they left.
And then after that, we were with another guy, buttwo.
Okay.
And we went to the third cafe.
Okay.
Of the day, to me.
That's crazy, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And after that, we went to Hangang, the river.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
River side.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We walked around, strolled, and watched somelocals playing lacrosse.
They had like a lacrosse field or things likethat.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah.
We watched the game a little bit.
Okay.
And then went to...
We had like a boat on Hangang river.
Okay.
We went inside and the guide said to me, it wasvery popular among the Korean people that
eat like a noodle, like a cup ramen on theHangang.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
They get on the boat to eat it?
Yeah.
Oh.
In the boat deck.
Okay.
Got it.
They eat it.
Oh, okay.
It's like a thing.
Right.
Okay.
But we didn't do that because we were full.
Yeah.
So we just saw them eating ramen and everything.
You know, I enjoyed it.
Okay.
And then after that, we went to the toshokan inKoex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The huge mall in place.
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I saw a picture of toshokan, like a beautifultoshokan.
Yeah, yeah.
Very tall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
That window.
Right.
And I wanted to visit that place.
Yeah.
So we went to the toshokan and looked around.
Well, there's not many things to do.
You just look around.
Right.
It's got an amazing view.
The structure's great.
Right.
Right.
I understand.
It was very beautiful.
We enjoyed that.
Yeah.
And the mall itself was huge.
The huge mall.
Yeah.
I've been there before.
Yeah.
It was first time for me.
Okay.
It was huge.
If I had no guide with me, I would have been lostin the mall.
Okay.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And then after that, casino.
Oh, casino.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
With your friend or just by yourself?
With my friend.
Okay.
Two of them.
Two of us.
We went to casino together.
Which casino did you go to?
Near the Incheon station or?
Oh, no.
In the COEX.
Oh, there was a casino in COEX.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
All right.
So, we went to the casino in COEX.
Okay.
So, people said like casino in Incheon airport,close to Incheon airport is the biggest one.
The fanciest one.
Yeah.
Paradise City.
Yes.
Yes.
But the one in COEX is not that big.
Okay.
Not that gorgeous.
They said that to me.
But, yeah, it was first time for me to justexperience casino, basically.
So, to me, it looked on...
Fancy enough?
Yeah.
Fancy enough.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Looks like a huge game center.
Oh, okay.
Huge, yeah, I'd say game center.
I think that's the closest one in Japan.
Yeah.
And you have, you know, like tables.
Right.
With the, you know, like dealer-san.
Yeah.
And everybody.
Everybody dressed up and looking, yeah, lookingcrazy.
Right, right.
And you have...
So, it was like a huge room.
And you have like this side, you have the deskthings.
Sure.
Where the dealers are there.
Yeah.
And the left side, you have like machines.
Right.
Little slot machines and like all thoseeverything.
Right.
And I wanted to do that.
The slot machine?
The part with the dealer-san.
Oh, you wanted the dealer one.
I really wanted like, you know, the whole, youknow, Shinri-sense and everything.
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah.
And I tried to get a seat.
Okay.
But I realized that I didn't know any game rules.
Sure.
Of any of those games.
Right.
Like a bakara.
Right, bakara.
Like, I don't know.
Blackjack.
Blackjack, yeah.
Right.
Poker.
I don't know about poker, but okay.
Yeah, I kind of understand, but don't know likethe details and like how to, you know.
Right.
Compete with people.
So I was like, oh, I don't know the rules.
Yeah, yeah.
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And in those desks, you have one dealer and youhave like four or five players.
Okay.
At the same time.
And it's more like you battle with those players.
Okay.
So if you don't know the rule, it's like you stopthe game once and then, you know.
Like they'll tell you.
Right.
And then everybody's got to wait.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's something like I hesitated to do.
Okay.
You know, because they looked all likeprofessional and smooth like everything.
Yeah.
You know, and I should have learned it beforehand.
Right.
To not ruin the smoothness.
Okay.
So I quit from those desk games.
And I tried to like a little machine.
Yeah.
Sure.
Section.
Okay.
And I did a roulette.
Okay.
A machine.
All right.
Yeah.
Oh, it was a machine.
Machine roulette.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
You have like a board, like a proper roulette, butthe other one that you have machine roulette
where you can do it by yourself.
Okay.
Without any data.
Without any.
Sure.
Without any data.
All right.
So that you can do it.
It's just you versus the house.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
So it was machine though.
Yeah.
Like you can do whatever you want throughmachines.
You mean you're talking about like the machinecould do some.
Yeah.
Like cheating.
You can cheat.
Because it's just a digital thing.
It's a digital thing.
Yeah.
Right.
They can.
It feels like they can control the outcome.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that was only my option.
All right.
I tried to do that.
And I wanted to use my credit card to bet millionsof all of my bank.
You want to go all in?
Yeah.
All in.
But in order to do that, you have to like asubscribe for the membership.
Oh, really?
Be a member of the casino.
Okay.
And that needed take took time membership fees andeverything.
So I maybe not.
Okay.
So I so that the guide guy.
Yeah.
Gave me a little gankings.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So that was only the amount that I could playmoney play.
Okay.
Okay.
It was not huge money, you know, but still.
All right.
And I did it.
Mm hmm.
And I lost kind of.
Well, yeah, definitely possible.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not.
It's not finished yet.
The game isn't finished.
It's not over yet.
Oh, your journey hasn't ended.
It's just one of one of the steps.
One of the many.
Yes.
Casino.
Right.
Going to take.
Yes.
You're going to have to look at it overall.
Yes, exactly.
It's just part one.
The lifetime.
You know, win or lose.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Lifetime sort of.
Yeah.
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Gain and losses.
It was just one day.
One day.
One of my.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
It was just.
I tried that casino.
Okay.
I just test it.
I see.
I see.
You didn't even try your heart.
I just tested them.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
It's you're going to go.
Yeah.
Of course.
Higher and higher.
Yeah.
Of course.
Of course.
I just did it.
Just tested them.
Just for context.
So what's the percentage?
Like, let's say the first money you got is 100%,right?
How many percent did you walk out?
What does that mean?
Walk out?
Let's say walk out.
Like you came back to.
You met us at the airport.
Okay.
When we met.
When we met at the airport.
I showed the winning money, right?
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like a whole treasure.
I don't know if you call that a treasure.
It seemed more like a sad amount of money that tome, it was kind of like that, but what
percentage was that?
I'd say, um, less than 10.
Your playing money went down to 10%.
Right.
Oh, damn.
Okay.
I mean.
Was there, was there ever a moment where it wentabove a hundred percent?
Not yet.
Oh, so not even once went higher than a hundredpercent.
I just tried it and just, I, I, I, I've never winso far.
You've never won?
Really?
I don't, I mean, that's pretty, that's a difficultthing.
Not yet.
Not yet.
All right.
Okay.
I'll respect that stance.
Please.
Thank you.
You didn't even win?
Not once?
That's a pretty like, yeah, that's a pretty narrowchance on itself though.
Right.
How many plays did you do?
Um, so first of all, we didn't have plenty of timebecause we went to so many places
and then we had a flight time.
So I, we spent time in casino around 30, 40minutes, I think.
And we saw many places, talked with the casinodealers and everything.
So I think I just did six, like a trials, sixbets, I think, and, um, so I didn't even
know the rules of the roulette.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I tried like a 36 and I bet it.
Oh, that's how you did it?
I don't think so.
What do you mean?
Because you should like a black or red.
Right.
You should have done like odds numbers or likehead numbers, but you went for like a single
slot?
Yeah.
Because I didn't know that.
Yeah.
I didn't even know those.
I mean, I knew, look back at it, I knew it, but I,I was like, I didn't, I didn't like
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fully understood the game, the machine,everything.
So I just for like first five, like I did sixtrials for the first trials.
I did just 23.
Like a single pinpoint bet.
Okay.
And that's why I lost so many.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah.
I see.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
And we talked about that, the game itself and he,I mean, the guy, guide guy, he didn't,
he wasn't that casino guy.
He knows so many things in soul, but he's not acasino guy.
So when we talked about like, Hey, why don't, whydo we lost like this?
So he didn't know as well.
Yeah.
We looked around all the garments and everything.
Hey, maybe we can like red, you can bet like thisand all true.
And for the last trial, um, the, you know, theleaving time is coming.
We knew that this was going to be the last bet.
Yeah.
So we put everything we had, right.
Go all in, go all in.
Yeah.
And it's just, right.
It's 50%.
So you went black or white?
Yes.
I finally knew it.
All right.
How it works on your last try.
Yes.
And I put it like on the black and also I did likepairs numbered or like odd numbers.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Okay.
So it's like very high chance to win it.
And if I, if I lose like this, I don't have anytalent, right.
Of casino.
Maybe.
Right.
And we all in.
Yeah.
And we lost everything.
Not a slight shit.
Um, yeah.
You went for multiple ones, right?
Like you went for the black, you also went for thepaired numbers and you went to red
odd number.
Oh my God.
Miserable.
Yeah.
It was.
Yeah.
I lost everything.
Oh my God.
And the minimum bet fee was 2,500 won.
Okay.
That was the minimum bet fee.
Okay.
That's like 2,500 won.
Yeah.
So I got 2,000 won back because that can't doanything.
You can't do it.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I got it.
And that was my, that was my winning, you know,trade job.
You caught.
That's the fruit.
That's the fruit.
Fruit of your challenge.
Yes.
Yes.
God, that's miserable.
Damn.
You were like at the airport, you were like, thisis what I won guys.
You didn't even win once.
Yeah.
I mean, I got 2,000.
You were 2,000.
2,000.
Yeah.
I won 2,000.
No, no.
You had 2,000.
You didn't even, that didn't come out of themachine.
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I won 2,000.
That was yours to begin with, man.
Damn.
I won 2,200 or something like that.
Yes.
No, man.
I did it.
You'd lost all your game.
And I bought so many things at the airportsouvenir shop with my winning victory money.
That was your legit 100% your own money, man.
With my credit card.
Yeah.
With your credit card.
At it.
Not even, not even, not even coming from the sameaccount.
God.
So that was, okay.
Okay.
I, yeah.
Yeah.
It was fun.
But it seemed fun though.
Yeah.
It was fun.
Like, you know.
We lost like crazy.
Yeah.
Right.
To be able to enjoy that with your friend.
Yeah.
It's a great memory.
Yeah.
It was great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
It was good.
It was good.
I see.
Yeah.
I recommend that place.
It's fun.
Is it fun?
Do you think I can go there alone and have fun?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But to enjoy fully, it's better to learn thebasics.
Of course I'll do that.
Will you do that?
Of course I'll do that.
I wouldn't bet my money on a game I don't know howto play.
Oh, you're clever.
Yeah.
Obviously, dude.
Good, good.
That's a good strategy.
Obviously.
That's a good strategy.
Not even strategy, dude.
Common sense, bro.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
That's a good strategy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Obviously.
Next time I would do that.
Yeah, you should do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd definitely do it, man.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, it seemed like you had fun.
Yeah.
It was fun.
Nice.
It was fun.
Yeah.
Nice, nice, nice, nice.
All right.
So next time I'll go to Incheon.
Incheon?
Yeah.
Paradise City?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You should bring good sum of money.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Right?
Because now you know the games.
Yeah.
I know how to do that machine.
The roulette machine.
Yeah.
Now.
Finally.
Absolutely, absolutely.
I'm a casino guy now.
You're now...
Right.
Yeah.
Legit casino guy.
I won 2,000.
Right.
Lost all your games.
Never won once.
2K.
I won 2K.
You know?
You had 2K.
You were just left with 2K.
You didn't use it.
All right.
Thanks for sitting guys.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
