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2021-12-28 12:31

分刻みでスゲジュースを決めたい派の2人が旅行行ったらどうなるか?

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I always stutter, right?
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Alright, so today we got a message from Yu-san.
Yu-san.
Alright.
There's a space after the Yu, right?
That's part of the name, right?
No, I mean that's...
Yu-san.
There's no space because it's only one word.
Oh, really?
Okay.
So you can say Yu-san.
So it's Yu-san.
You can also say that, but I prefer Yu-san.
With the space.
Yeah.
Yu-san.
That's part of the name.
Yeah.
Alright.
Okay.
Oh.
Wow.
Okay.
That is a surprising reaction that I didn't think was gonna come.
Okay, go ahead.
But when I told my friend about it, he said it was a good thing, but it was mainly a bad thing.
Uh-huh.
Do you two plan your trips?
Do you decide on your trip?
Please tell us.
Ah.
Thank you.
Alright.
That's an interesting topic.
Interesting.
So the moment she saw the schedule, she was like, "Yes!
This is what I've been looking for."
The plan for the day.
The plan for the day.
You know, on like, a lot of like the topics on love, right?
Like what kind of personality do you want as your partner and everything?
One of the popular questions is like, you know, when you're on vacation, do you want
the partner to decide for you or like do you plan ahead of like the schedule where to go?
And a lot of the unpopular answer, a lot of the answers that people hate is the "funkizami no schedule," right?
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Like if they hear that, they're like, "No!"
Oh, do they hate?
Yeah, I think like that's the majority of the people.
Okay, okay.
Like I feel like a lot of people would feel disgusted if they hear that their partner...
Right, but at the same time, because there's so many questions of it, I feel like there's
people that do that, right?
There's a certain amount of people that do it.
So like, they're the minorities, if you like.
So with the minorities together, it's a great fit, right?
True.
So that's good.
It's good for you that you found one.
Yeah, you met the one.
That's good.
That's really good.
That's good.
But not for me.
I wouldn't enjoy that.
Really?
You don't?
Not every minute though.
Right, like I would...
But you know, when you go on a trip, that means you need to take this train to go there,
and this train to go there, and this flight to go there.
You know, it's fixed.
It's fixed.
You need to get a train on like 1.32.
That means, you know, you need a plan.
I don't know, I understand.
I understand like the transportation or like the check-in and check-out has like this definite time.
They have to make it.
But like, I do feel like you need like breathing room for like, you know,
Yeah, or like, like dinner doesn't have to start at 8 o'clock sharp or 7 o'clock sharp, right?
It's okay if it starts at 8.30, 7.30, 30 minutes delay.
I just feel like that's, you know, we can work things out as the day goes by.
Maybe we can cut out this part of the thing or something like that.
Yeah, we just...
You can't.
Right.
What do you think, man?
I make a plan.
Okay, how precisely do you make the plan?
Like, if I do like that precise, like one minute, and if I miss this, the next, you know, revised plan is this.
Okay.
But usually things, you know, doesn't go as in plan.
I make up, you know, some buffer rooms.
Oh, okay, okay.
But like, you might run into something that you want to spend time on, right?
On the spot?
Yeah, something that's so fantastic that the buffer time is not enough.
Yeah, then we should manage the schedule.
You can cut the next place or put next place into tomorrow's, you know, schedule.
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Okay, true.
So...
That can be like possible.
It's adjustable.
You're flexible and precise at the same time.
I mean, I'm okay with changing.
Okay, got it.
But you...
So is the reason why you do that because you want to know what's coming?
I mean, if I go on a trip, that means like there's some places that you want to go, you want to visit, you want to see, like beforehand.
You already know that.
Yeah.
So think about that.
Okay.
I need to go this place.
Okay.
Need this transportation.
Yes.
Need to go this place next.
Need this transportation, you know.
So it's natural for me to make a plan to make sure that I can see everything.
Got it.
You want to maximize your experience during the stay.
Yes.
Okay.
I understand.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I don't understand your standing.
Okay.
We can meet something unexpected but really right on the spot.
Yeah.
So I understand that.
Yeah.
You can have time, but you know, that means you need to change the schedule.
Yeah.
But at the same time, I feel like there's part of you inside that enjoys like the no planning kind of like you just go wherever you feel like going.
Yeah.
If you feel like turning left, you turn left.
Uh-huh.
If you see something that interests you, you just go at it and just don't care about the time.
Uh-huh.
Do you have that in you?
Yeah.
Is that enjoyable for you?
Enjoyable.
Yeah.
Like if that comes to me, I plan that trip, you know.
You plan not having...
Got it.
You plan a very non-planned time.
Yeah.
So it's like, okay, today from 2 to 7, I have no planned time.
Got it.
Got it.
So I can do whatever you want on the spot.
Ah, got it.
That's within the plan.
Yeah.
Got it.
Or like this trip is no planned.
Got it.
That already...
So you're a very schedule-oriented guy.
I guess so.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
So...
Right.
Yeah, people hate me, I guess.
I remember when I went to Kyoto with my girlfriend when I was like some years ago.
Okay.
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I made a like little plan, little...
Like a shiote?
Shiote, but...
I wrote a map.
So curious.
And there's a place that I want to go.
Okay.
And on Shinkansen, so please point the places you want to go on the map, please.
Okay, got it.
She was like, okay.
And she pointed some places.
Yeah.
Okay, thank you.
Based on this, I'm going to make the plan, okay?
Yeah.
I remember that.
But that trip was good, so...
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
That's natural to me.
So you were able to plan a schedule on your way there.
Yeah.
Of course I want to...
If I can do this like beforehand...
It's better.
It's better because you can make more precise...
You have more information in your preparation time.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, what if the other person was like, I don't know.
Like, I don't...
Are you okay with that?
I'm okay.
So my plan is like this, so...
If she's okay with me, that's okay.
Oh, got it.
So if it's 100%, your decision is okay.
If she has places she wants to go, you'll find a way to put that in there.
Yeah.
But if she's like, on-spot...
If she's like, on-spot girl...
Okay.
Like, does whatever she wants on the spot...
That can be difficult.
Ah, because it's going to mess up your schedule.
I need to rearrange like, every...
It's going to be stressful for you.
I mean...
It's fun when you're in love.
Even that happens.
But yeah, it's difficult.
It's tough.
One thing I have in mind is that...
Sure, when you...
Okay, let's say you're very precise with your schedule.
Okay, let's not put you.
Let's just put someone who's very, very precise with their schedule.
Much more precise than me.
Yes.
Like, punctual guy.
And then another person who's very precise with their schedule.
Alright?
And then I first thought that they would fit so well.
Because they're both very precise.
But like, what I thought was like...
I feel like that might become a friction.
Of like, no, I feel like we should take the train here and then go here because that's more effective.
And the other person is like, no, no, that's bad.
Because we should take this train and then land here.
So we have time for this.
If that's more effective.
No.
Yeah, true.
They're logical thinkers.
The two logic would just fight against each other.
And would make friction.
Is what I started to feel is gonna happen.
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It can be happened in that case.
The other person, if the other person is more like whatever kind of person, it works out better.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Two pilots.
True.
Two pilots never work out.
Two captains.
Right, two captains don't work out.
True, true.
Maybe.
It can be happened, really.
Right.
Alright.
Alright, we talked a lot.
Yeah.
Alright.
That was a nice topic.
Yeah, it was.
We hit it off.
Yeah.
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