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2023-06-16 13:53

発酵させたコーヒー豆!?

そんなに味違うのか..
00:01
ようこそ、ケビンの英語の部屋のポッドキャストにようこそ!
こんにちは!
はい
これは
メッセージではなかった
これはメッセージではなかった
これは
こんばんは
これはコーヒーの話です
ごめんなさい
私はコーヒー大好きです
私はスターバックスに行くと思っていました!
誰がスターバックスに行くのか、私は話しかけないのでしょう!
もちろん
こんばんは
これは高山の方の山ちゃんです
ちょっと待って
この人も山ちゃんです
分かりました
He was being nice.
I see.
Not so that we won't get confused.
Yeah, yeah. I guess so.
Like, oh, are you sending the DM?
So that this doesn't happen, right?
Right.
So this is from Takayama no Hou no Yama-chan.
Itsumo kurima ya idou jikan ni rikai shiyou to hisshi ni kiite imasu.
Yama-chan wa kouhii ga suki ka to omoimasu ga.
So this is my side of Yama-chan, ne.
Ah, I see.
He's not talking about himself.
I see.
Yama-chan wa kouhii ga suki ka to omoimasu ga.
Fermentation kei no kouhii wa mou gozonji desu ka?
Boku wa suu nen mae ni nonde,
sono toki wa shougeki wo ukemashita.
Kihonteki ni wa fudan nonde iru speciality kouhii to,
hinshu ya nouen wa onaji nanodesu ga,
aa, prosesu de hakko wo toriireta mono ni narimasu.
Tatoeba, anaerobic fermentation natural to iu mono desu.
Futsuu no natural ni hakko kate wo ireru koto de,
yori furutsu no youna...
Well, you're reading the DM.
Why did you look at me?
What was that look?
Deep into coffee, so...
You don't think I don't know coffee?
Yeah, I mean, if you don't follow,
I need to explain it.
I do need some explanation, please.
Yes, please.
I have no idea what the fuck that was about.
Also, the Japanese are difficult, right?
Futsuu no natural ni hakko kate wo ireru koto de,
yori...
So, um...
Speciality coffee is...
You know this? It's like a special beans.
Yes.
Beans that you don't usually find in the usual places.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not big business one.
I see, I see, I see.
It's more like Yoshida-san no sodatteta tomatoes kind of like a...
Okay, I see. Makes sense.
Hosei-san no sodatteta this beans.
Okay, I didn't know that, but okay.
So that's a specialty.
And also, um...
So, fermentation wa...
Sore plus sore wo...
03:01
So it's like a...
Coffee is like a fruit, right?
It's like a...
It's not just like a blueberry, but...
It's like a blueberry.
It comes from the trees.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And seed inside, right?
Like a huge seed inside.
The beans inside.
Oh, okay.
So...
I think I know that.
I think I remember being taught of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know it's a long time ago, so...
It's a long time ago.
Why does that matter?
I'm just serving lattes here.
I'm just serving frappuccinos here.
That knowledge has nothing to do with my job experience.
Of course.
You can't blame me for that.
No, of course.
Sorry to repeat this for you.
No, no, no.
Just for the listeners.
And for the people that doesn't know coffee.
Of course, of course.
It's not for me.
So coffee is like a cherry.
Like a cherry.
Yeah, yeah.
A bean inside, right?
And we want that bean
for the coffee.
So we need to get rid of those...
Like a fruit outside.
So there are some
ways of getting rid of that fruit.
One is just like
washing it away.
Or one is just
place it into like a...
Just on the table.
And then just
the fruit gonna be like rotten.
And then get rid.
Oh.
So there are some types.
So fermentation
means that
when you put in the fermentation process
you pick the fruit
and then put it into like
kinda shaded
cave.
Closed air.
Yeah, it's like a jyukuseiniku.
It's like same thing, like put it into a cave
and then the fruit
gonna be rotten.
And then at the same time bean
would be rotten a bit.
Like a hakko a bit.
So that's
what he's saying.
Okay, I see.
And sometimes you put
the real blueberry
with coffee cherries
sometimes.
And put it in the same cave.
So that coffee beans will
like a
get that blueberry's
flavor a bit.
Then those are
like a fermentations.
Yeah.
Sorry to repeat this.
Do it for the people that doesn't know
the coffee world.
Yeah, of course.
06:07
I
know this place and I've
been there several times.
Wait, so have you tried that before?
The fermented coffee beans?
Yeah.
The one I brought
the last time
was the fermented.
Oh shit, was it?
It was anaerobic natural
I guess.
It's like a
anaerobic natural processed
one way of like processing
the coffee.
I see.
So what I drank last time
was the fermented beans.
And also
remember we went to Asakusa together?
Yes. At the cafe Asakusa?
Yeah.
The one I had
Oh shit!
I had a sip of that.
And I had no idea how it was different.
I was like, oh yeah, it's a good coffee.
If you compare, you'll
see.
It's like a
you know,
jyukuseiniku has certain like
like a
creamy taste.
Like a miso kind of
taste, right?
For me.
It had that?
Yeah, they had it.
Oh shit.
If you compare, you'll see.
Is it noticeable even for me?
Yeah.
I didn't know that I had it twice.
Right?
Wow.
Do you like it?
I do.
Is it more expensive, the fermented ones?
Yes.
Okay.
And also, as he says,
like a diffused coffee.
What is that?
Infused coffee.
It's like a
put it like a blueberry together
or like some
flowers together.
In the coffee?
In like a, when you
In the bean processing stage?
Yeah, bean processing stage.
You take the cherries
and then put it into the cave
and then bring some flowers
and put it in together.
Wow.
How's that different from
when you're about to serve your coffee
you put a drip of blueberry juice?
Is that different?
You think that's different, man?
It's not the taste.
It's like a flavor.
The flavor?
Yeah, it's like a
aroma.
So it's different?
The smell, like it's
it's a flavor.
09:01
The flavor?
It's aroma.
Okay.
Or like, yeah.
Okay.
But when you, for example,
there are beans
processed with
butter.
I guess that was butter.
And when you smell it,
it's just like the coffee
and you put it
butter in it.
What the fuck is the point?
This is like
the usual coffee and you put it butter.
What the fuck is that?
Why the fuck are we doing this?
But when you drink it,
you don't taste butter at all.
It's just coffee
and like fruity, more like fruity.
The scent.
So make it more like complex
and like more
difficult.
More, you know.
Alright, this is getting ridiculous.
What if I just
what if I
what if I became a coffee
guy and I decided
instead of the blueberry or instead of
butter, I decided
to put bacon.
Bacon, yeah.
Bacon infused beans.
And are people gonna start
freaking out like, oh wow, this is
such a special kind of coffee.
Like it's gonna be
double the
price than usual.
Can I just do that?
I feel like at this point it's ridiculous.
Yeah, you can do it. I can do it?
What? I mean, if it's good,
if it will be accepted as a taste,
that will be a very great
experience, no?
Wow. Yeah, I guess they are kind of
doing that thing.
Like, hey, why don't
we put blueberries together?
I mean, if that doesn't taste great,
oh, let's just stop it.
It's a matter of
ultimately is it gonna taste good or not?
Yeah, try new things and
yeah, try it.
Bacon infused coffee.
Yeah, yeah.
Could be, yeah.
Well, like sakura
infused beans, right?
Oh, that's a great idea.
What would be a good infused coffee?
I haven't
tried infused coffee
that much.
But like in your image,
give me like a new one that no one's ever done.
The new one?
Yeah, it would be a good combination, you think.
It doesn't exist still?
It doesn't exist.
Well, not commonly.
Okay.
Yeah, but like
hinoki?
Like those
smelly
good flavour things.
Just like sakura.
Yeah.
Or like, yeah.
12:03
How about like
lemon or lime?
Yeah, that would be great.
Oh, and I guess that
could exist.
How about like cacao?
Ah.
Yeah, that would be
a great idea.
Good with chocolate.
Well, basically, that's right. Anything good
with coffee should be a great
combination.
How about like
coffee infused? No, how about chai?
Chai infused coffee.
Like a cinnamon thing, right?
Yeah, could be.
Not bad.
Well, great.
I'm not sure if there are some people
who already tried them
and decided it was a failure.
Yeah, could be, but...
How do you do that? Where do you buy those
beans?
Those beans
before
you infuse them?
Yeah.
I mean, you can buy, but
it's only in like Africa
or like South America.
Can you go to amazon.africa
and buy it?
It's very...
It's a fresh thing, so...
And also, it's not like
on
like those big
due to...
Ah, so go to eBay?
Yeah, could be then.
Like for example, if
like Hose-san
have an eBay store,
then you can get it.
Yeah.
But while shipping from Africa,
it's gonna be bad.
It's gonna go bad?
It's not good.
Alright.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Thank you. Bye-bye.
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