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Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast!
Hello!
How are you guys?
Hello!
Another great day of recording today.
Yeah.
Oh, God, the curtains.
Side by side.
Terrible.
Yeah.
Why would you want to close the curtains?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's a sunny day.
Yeah, very sunny day.
Yeah.
Good day.
I love this.
Love this, brother.
Yeah.
We just had a short brief of-
Yeah.
You know, I was just sad that you weren't there at the talk, you know?
Well, I mean, that always, you know, happens spontaneously.
Yeah, right.
We had this team talk.
Yeah.
I have like this QR, how's life?
Yeah.
How's everybody's feelings?
Yeah.
And stuff like that, right?
And that's-
It's really important.
Right.
How- I wonder if everyone does that, like, you know, for example, like music bands.
Oh.
You know how there's-
Yeah.
There's always like Maroon 5, right?
Yeah.
Five guys.
How- You think they're talking about like, how am I feeling, how you're feeling, how
Adam Levine's feeling and like-
I don't know.
But you know, there are some bands saying that-
That's true.
You know, have those kind of mating scent.
It's true.
It makes sense though.
Yeah.
It makes sense.
I guess that's more like precise things, I think.
Like, for example, like how this first line will start.
Yeah.
Right?
Or like that.
More like, one is like more creating matings, like how the content should be.
And the other side is like, I prefer like jazzy one.
I see.
Right, right.
That seems like a really good description of like, ongaku no houkou senpachi.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
So, but you know what we're doing is, they're more like kind of wider.
That's true.
Talking about basically life itself.
Yeah, that's true.
Right.
When I did the cafe with my former partner, or friend of mine, that was one of the difficult
things that we encountered was that, you know, doing things together was very difficult.
Like, I'm not saying that we, you know, we didn't get along or anything.
It was just that driving a project together, driving a business together was something
that one couldn't, neither of the players were able to completely be satisfied with
the outcome.
Right?
Because it's, it was, you know, a 50/50, you know, ideas is nothing.
So like, what ended up was, it was mostly my idea and like it was, that was little, that
created a dynamic of, you know, unfairness and that was really difficult.
That really led to the end of the relationship and that was really sad.
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But there was, we both learned a lot.
Yeah, yeah.
That's important.
Yeah, it's important, right?
Yeah.
You guys were there at the moment that the cafe was running, right?
Yeah, of course.
And I, but you know, I was watching from the outside.
Yeah.
Were you able to sniff out any of that friction?
Kind of.
Okay, I see.
Like, but it's not something between you and your partner.
But to me, it was like, because of we two guys, suddenly, you know, joining that company,
like interrupt your balance and everything.
Yeah.
And that's something what I felt.
I see.
It's not you and your partner's relationship.
It's more like the new, the two to the four member change dynamic.
That was, I see.
Yeah.
We three are, you know, college friends.
Right.
And always, you know, already have, you know, long time buddies.
Yeah.
Kind of like, not totally.
Yeah.
That's something what I, okay.
Yeah.
Well, I don't think, I don't think there's any hard feelings.
Not that I know of.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know.
I never actually talked about that.
For real, for real.
With, you know, with her, so I probably will never be able to know how she felt.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For me, for us, I guess it was the bigger problem was that the me and her relationship
was the bigger problem at hand, I feel like.
That was what I thought.
Yeah.
For me, for us, I guess it was the bigger problem was that the me and her relationship was the bigger problem at hand, I feel like.
That was what I think that she felt.
I think.
Rather than the dynamic move to a four, a two to a four.
Oh, no.
I didn't notice.
Oh, okay.
Okay, then.
Yeah.
Okay.
Your relationships before we joined.
Oh, did you guys not?
I mean, you know, in the real relationship balances and everything.
Oh, right.
True.
Okay, I see, I see, I see.
So I didn't notice the changes.
The internal power balance and everything.
I see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
But, yeah, it's always difficult sometimes, you know, cooperate.
Yeah.
And then you have to do things together.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I remember when you mentioned that, like, it's like there's a Japanese koto waza, like
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a sendo o-ku-shite-fune.
I forget that.
Wait, try it.
Sendo.
Let me guess.
Okay.
Sendo o-ku-shite-fune susumazu.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Sorry.
Let me check that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sendo o-ku-shite-fune yama ni noboru.
Yama ni noboru?
Yeah.
I see.
So that...
Yama ni noboru.
Yeah.
So like a completely different objective.
Yes, yes.
I see.
Never reach the goal.
Ah, I see.
Yeah.
I see.
It went something.
It went completely different direction that no one...
Nobody wants.
I see.
Yeah.
Wow.
And that's recently you mentioned, right?
Like two or three weeks ago.
Yeah, I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah.
And I agree with that.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, this is such a...
It's an ongoing subject, so I can never say it over.
Certainly, right?
Of course.
It's our internal thing.
But right, I do feel...
So first I did the Kyoto Kei with my former partner of mine.
Now I'm doing the Kyoto Kei with three of you guys.
And it's a...
I am making adjustments like that I learned from my past as well as I'm still feeling
this really like this navigation difficulty as well.
And that's something that is I think is a difficult point as well as a learning curve
that I am experiencing right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So true.
Yeah.
So true.
Right.
Life.
This is life.
You're like, this is fucking life.
Yeah.
I mean, I love these.
Yeah.
It's true honesty and true feeling.
The raw feeling, right?
It is.
Yeah.
It's the real, so...
Right.
Tough and difficult sometimes, but this is life.
This is life.
Yeah.
We're living it.
Yeah.
We're living it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
You know, at least we're ending up always in a better situations.
That's true.
That's true.
We're very...
The thing that I like about is that we're very...
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We're moving forward always.
Yeah.
Very cooperative, very understanding, logical, and always taking a step forward in how all
of us can benefit from it.
And that's what I like about the three of us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So never be like mad at things or yelling.
Right.
That has never happened.
Yeah.
Right.
Always like constructive discussion.
It's true.
Right.
It's really good.
We're quiet.
Rather too quiet.
Yeah.
We hold back on our feelings rather.
That's our tendency.
I feel like, but that's us.
Right.
Yeah.
And I feel like it's always you who opens up those kind of discussions.
And that's something I really admire about.
And I'm not someone who does that a lot.
I'm rather in the...
Oh, really?
Right.
I'm rather in the quieter version, but I guess relatively in this circle, I guess I am talking
more about it, I guess.
Yeah.
That's something I always respect about.
Thank you.
Oh, he's really like that to me.
Really honest and open.
Opened and...
Thank you.
Yeah.
Facing to that, to what we are actually facing.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I really do.
I will cultivate more on the skill.
I feel like that's a really, you know, an informed skill, I guess.
You know, relationship skills, I guess.
Yeah.
I think so.
Yeah.
And I know you're really trying to be logical.
Yeah.
Be constructive.
Yeah.
And not be like emotional side or like the...
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure the listeners have no idea what we're talking about.
Sorry, guys.
I probably threw you guys off.
Just left you sitting right there, knowing nothing about what we're talking about.
I'm sorry about that, guys.
But I had to talk about this on the first episode because I wanted to like really clear
this out first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like get on with the little...
Opening up into...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
All right.
So thank you for listening, guys.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, Yamachan.
Yeah, thank you.
For being here again.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Okay.
All right.
