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Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast!
I don't know what I'm doing, I'm sorry.
I recently not having control with the audio titling.
You know how in the Monday Night Lines I'm not doing a very good job?
Yeah, it's affecting this too.
It's not doing a good... I'm not doing a very good job at it.
But just give me time and I'll get back.
Okay, okay. You're in a kind of slam...
Yes!
Yeah.
Don't be like rush.
I will not. I won't beat myself up.
I'll just keep it chill. Relax a little.
In the last episode, we've talked about...
Like we started from "me need time" when I speak something.
And then next about writing down things.
And at last it was about you when you speak and what is happening inside.
Yeah.
So it was very interesting to me because like from my perspective,
I think everyone thinks that you are very, very good at speaking.
Like especially like expressing.
Yeah.
Not only the words but with all the expressions including.
Okay.
And you're very good at.
But do you think you are good at expressing yourself?
No.
No, you're not?
I'm not. I don't.
That's funny.
That's right.
That's interesting.
After hearing your analogy, that's funny.
But I've always thought that I needed to work harder at expressing myself
more than a lot of people around me because I'm not doing them well.
So I have to work on that expressing skill.
Is what I've always thought.
Okay.
So you're talking about the wording or like phrase choices?
Wording.
Wording.
Okay.
So that makes yourself be more easily understood by other people.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like, okay.
Remember like a few days ago, we had a meeting with an agency.
Yes.
And we asked them about how they split their money and how we get jobs.
And well, their job and everything, right?
And we came to them cold, right?
So it was you have to really be careful with how you approach them.
And you have to be careful with how you start the conversation of like,
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like money related topics or like awkward topics or like those things.
Yeah.
You have to start that topic with a very careful way.
Yeah.
Right.
And I suck at it.
And I think that you're really good at it.
At the meeting, you were like fucking like rock and rolling over there.
Like how you started that conversation.
Like when you're like about to say, remember how you said like,
so we wanted to tell the agency that we don't want to get involved in social events that much.
Right?
Remember we told them that, right?
Yeah.
And that's a little awkward to tell them, right?
And you knew that and you had to approach them in a way that's more natural when you
release that information, right?
So you started off with like,
like, yeah.
That's how you started.
And I was like, whoa.
Oh, really?
I don't remember.
Whoa.
I was like, that is that skills.
I was like skills, man.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
You were like, I was so like amazed.
Wow, really?
With your like talking skills.
Wow.
Well, thank you.
For you, I think especially in business, like when you shine, I feel like.
So I really wanted to like steal some of that like technique of like smooth talking.
And like free talking too.
Like when you're like, when the attendee was like, attendant was like showing us around in the
buildings, like this is our office, like this is our refrigerator, this is the entrance and stuff
like that.
Your comments were so on point.
Your comments were perfect, man.
Like just the right amount of humor.
Yeah.
Just the right amount of like tension.
Just the right amount of like, like you're scratching that itch of like smooth conversation.
Really?
That was, you executed that perfectly.
I didn't know that you were thinking about that at that time.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, thank you.
But you know, like when we're taking a video like for YouTube, like you're very, very good at
speaking.
No, you don't think so?
I do.
I can come up with things to say.
Oh, yeah, but I now I'm starting to start to remember, start to remember.
Okay, yeah.
Is that right?
I'm starting to remember.
Starting to remember that.
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Like every time before we need, I mean, we need to talk about something to someone.
And especially in this situation that you need to be like representative of all three of us and
have to talk about and tell them what we've we had thought.
Then, like, I remember you like every time, okay, let me make sure about this and like,
make everything sure.
Yeah.
And, you know, make it make it yours before you speak.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
You know, preparing all the things like be clear enough.
So, right.
That's a good point right there.
So I'm really bad at like, if there is something there, if there's a definite something that you
have to tell them, if you have to 100% put that factor in there, and you have to tell them in a
way in a specific way, right?
In a defined way.
That's when it gets a little difficult.
Like, I don't have the freedom in the wordings, right?
So I have to think more.
So like that's that takes away the freedom and that's when it gets a little difficult.
So during like the real real meetings that we have, I have to really there's this there's this
core fundamental thought that I have to tell them, right?
So to do that, I have to really think through it.
Yeah.
Like, whereas on free talks on live live shots, shoots or like free talk on during like the
middle of the like the everyday YouTube videos, it's more freestyle.
Like there isn't really a topic that we have to address.
It's not that strict, right?
So like that's when it's more easy for me.
I get more of the ideas.
But when there's a definite answer, when there's a definite, when there's a correct answer,
that's when I have to really think through.
And I feel like Kake-chan is more better on that.
I feel like right, right is also that type of guy.
Yes.
But I think you are like, because you do this, like I thought you and I'm thinking and assuming
that you are very like, you know, kind of honest and like, how do I say this?
Like, like precise and punctual guy.
You know, like, that's very good thing to me.
And I respect that point because I sometimes leave it fuzzy, you know, make it like clear
sometimes.
OK, but OK.
Yeah, that feeling right.
And I can conclude that discussion.
But you know, you make things like clear, like precise.
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That's very important, I think, especially when we communicate with, you know, some people
from outside, different culture.
Right, right, right.
I guess that's a personality of mine to make things very clear, I guess.
Oh, yeah, you are.
Yeah, that's nice.
Actually, personality trait.
Yeah, so those kinds of things, like making it clear, that's more of like I was born with
it.
Like it feels more natural to.
Like, make it clear what we talked about.
OK, yeah.
So that's not I'm not working hard on that.
I'm more it just comes more naturally.
OK, to make things clear.
Wow.
So that's born, born talent, huh?
Yeah.
Born that way.
Well, yeah, if you consider that as a talent, thank you.
But yeah, it's just a characteristic.
OK, OK.
So think about that wording or word choices when you speak that came from maybe that all
the experiences that you born in the United States and not like very, very free at speaking
Japanese, but came to Japan and had to communicate with all the high school Japanese students
and you needed to, you know, be clear.
I feel like that's another dimension.
OK, that's that's a lot.
I don't so I'm not sure if this is because I'm not as good of a Japanese speaker as everybody
else.
I don't know if that's related, though.
OK, like.
Do you have any ideas that where does that come from?
I don't actually.
OK, I don't know.
Maybe I was just wired that way.
My mind was, you know, how bilingual people have a much weaker skill in communication.
Yeah, I sometimes heard that theory.
I agree a lot on that because that's how I am.
Oh, really?
Right now, I'm thinking maybe that's the reason.
It's just because I was bilingual.
I have two languages in my brain, and though that really changed my brain into getting
the weakness of like communication, kind of like like putting your thoughts out clearly
kind of weakness.
Maybe that's why I got that.
So on that point, from that point, yes, maybe it's because I'm not of a.
Yeah, because I'm the English and the Japanese thing got me crippled.
But maybe I was just born like this.
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OK, you know, maybe I was just like this from the beginning.
From the beginning.
I'm not sure.
Maybe.
Well, maybe that's the reason why you you are like precise guy like that.
Right.
Maybe.
Maybe.
And, you know, there's so many other factors.
So, like, when we're creating when we're when we're saying something for a video or
communicating with somebody and me being a representative of the team, there's always
the question of like, OK, am I articulate?
Am I am I am I saying something that's agreed upon?
Like, like what I've just said.
Does that.
Clearly, is that equal to what we agreed upon?
Like, there's always a question of that.
OK, right.
Are you guys are you too satisfied with my statement with what I have stated?
Is that is that.
Are you guys satisfied with that?
Like, that's always a question in the air.
So that gives a little bit of a slower speed with the communication there.
And there's also a difference of like, are we talking business or are we talking emotions?
Like, that's also very two different.
I feel like in business, I feel a lot more easier.
It's just numbers and agreement and yes or no.
You like those.
Yeah, I like those.
It's so much more easier.
Yeah.
And when it turns in terms of like like care and like like empathy and like like emotion
related things, I feel like that's more like a.
Things I feel like that's more easier if it's done in English, I feel like.
Yeah, I don't know why, but I feel so much more comfortable talking about those topics
in English.
Yeah, I don't know why, but it just it just it does.
It feels so much easier.
Right.
So.
Oh, God, damn.
I didn't get measured.
But yeah, that's that's that's my brain right there.
That's how I feel.
So.
Yeah, a new thing, you know, that's really interesting.
I've never set this anymore.
So it's very interesting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because inside, you know, we can see right.
So that's very interesting.
This.
All right.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Bye bye.
