『ベルサイユのばら』の紹介
So I wrote my college thesis on Revolutionary Girl Utena. I spent a really long time thinking
about that show, but I'd never seen this one. And the influence that this manga had on Revolutionary
Girl Utena is really, really obvious. Everything from the character design to the symbolism of the
roses and stuff is like all replicated there. And the character of Oscar is a hugely important
predecessor to Tenjou Utena. Welcome back to 2AM OTTACK! I'm your host Mayu,
a born and raised Japanese non-otaku, and I'm Cisco, an American otaku. In this podcast,
we share our reviews of anime and manga through our distinct perspectives with commentary on
Japanese culture, history, and language. Cisco, we just watched the 2025 film of The Rose of
Versailles. Versailles? Versailles? Just Versailles. Versailles, because it's pronounced
differently in Japanese. I only know the Japanese pronunciation. Yeah, I mean,
the Japanese pronunciation is based on the French pronunciation. Versailles. Versailles. Versailles.
Yeah. So it's, you know, I think at some point, I feel like in one of the songs, the Japanese
singers who are singing in English say the word Versailles, but pronounced it Versailles. And I
was like, oh, I guess nobody told you it's the same word. But yeah, yes, that's the, it's Versailles.
Okay. Well, anyway, I'm glad finally we watched it.
Me too. Because I was wondering
what the story is about, basically my entire life.
I guess that's fair. I've known about this manga since at least 2004, and I've never read it. And
now I finally watched the movie, and it felt like I should probably read the manga still. But yeah.
Right. Well, it was the fictional story written in 1972 by Ryoko Ikeda. And I remember my mom had
a manga. And I read some of it, but I didn't get the whole gist of it. I just know there's like
badass woman in there, which was true.
That's the main point of the story.
Yeah. Before we start, we would like to hear from you. Share your thoughts,
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in the description, or you can use Spotify and YouTube comments section as well. So today we're
going to talk about the Rose of Versailles.
It's not Versailles. It's Versailles.
Versailles. Damn it. We're going to talk about the history behind the Rose of Versailles.
Versailles.
I can't.
Versailles.
Versailles. The life of Marie Antoinette. I'm screwed.
Marie Antoinette.
Marie Antoinette. And this awesome character, Oscar. Also our thoughts about the film and today's
word of the day. All right, Cisco, before we dive into it, can you introduce the plot of the Rose of
Versailles?
You nailed it. Okay. Yes, I can. So I should note that this only really applies to the movie we just
watched. I don't know if the story is exactly the same in the manga or the movie, live action
movie they made, Lady Oscar or the-
Animation series?
Yeah. Or the manga remake they made from 2013 to 2018. So I only know the movie that came out in
2025. Anyway, the plot starts off by following Marie Antoinette, who as a young teenager gets
betrothed to the Dauphin of France and moves to France to marry him. She is assigned as the head
of her royal guard, a woman, Oscar Francois. What's her last name? How did I forget already?
Oh, it's like Jar-Jay, right? It's like a really hard French name. Yeah. Okay. That's why I forgot.
Even as we were watching, I was like, God, I'm never going to be able to spell that later. And
Oscar is a woman, but is in charge of Marie Antoinette's safety because she's strong and
she's noble. And I guess when I say noble, not just noble in bearing, but also noble in blood.
She's the daughter of a noble family and her father has decided to raise her as a man. Well,
not exactly as a man, but raise her as his heir, meaning she gets an aristocratic education in both
sort of military skills like fencing and also like arts and letters and stuff. So Oscar's also the
same age as Marie? Not that much older.
Not clear.
オスカーとマリー・アントワネットの関係
They seem to be very close in age, which is ridiculous because that makes her 14 when she
starts guarding the future queen, which is like just so silly. Oscar's the bodyguard, Marie's the
queen, or is the, you know, the princess, I suppose. And then when the old king dies, Marie
ends up the queen and Oscar's her bodyguard. There's a love triangle that develops between
Marie and this Swedish guy, Von Fressen, who Oscar is also kind of into, but is not that open about
her feelings for. And Oscar has a manservant who's a commoner named Andre, who is always around and,
you know, sort of like defending her. Well, actually not really defending her, but serving.
They grew up together, yeah.
They grew up, they're sort of like childhood friends. It's clear that Oscar's better at
fighting than Andre, but Andre is brave in sort of standing up for and serving Oscar.
So the story kind of goes on until we get close to the French Revolution, at which point Oscar
becomes more and more concerned about the welfare of the people of France, and also disillusioned
with Marie Antoinette's kind of lavish lifestyle and inability to care about regular people.
There's some intervention with Von Fressen, who, even though he's in love with Marie Antoinette,
goes abroad and then comes back later, and they're still in love, and will they,
won't they? And eventually he leaves again. And Oscar departs from Marie's service to join the
French Guards, I think the French Guards, and then struggles to sort of lead the French Guards
and earn their trust. And then eventually, during the opening stages of the French Revolution,
leads the French Guards to protect the people against the King's armies, and also to storm
the Bastille. That's the plot. I've given enough away.
新しい映画の制作背景
Yeah, thank you. So this was distributed by Touhou Next and the AVIX Pictures, and the
animation is by MAPPA. The reason why they made the new version of film is in celebration of the
series' 50th anniversary. Wasn't that like three years ago?
Yeah, but like on the 50th anniversary, they announced.
They announced they were going to make it. Okay, got it, got it.
So it's more than 50 years right now. Wow, that's crazy.
Yeah. I didn't expect that was musical. Yeah. Well, is it a musical, really?
50% musical? Yeah, the first half is a musical. The second
half is not a musical. It's more than I expected.
It's much more than I expected. I didn't realize it was going to be a musical at all. But like,
there was the opening that didn't have music. And then there was a moment where it seemed like
it was an opening theme song. And I was like, wow, this is a pretty long opening theme song
for a movie. And then like five seconds after it was over, another one started. And I was like,
oh, it's a musical. It's not just a regular movie. But I think what it actually is, is that
the part of the story they really wanted to tell in the movie is the French Revolution part of the
story, which is the end. And so they had to like montage together all of the early stuff in like
a bunch of like very interestingly executed montages that tell you a lot of story in like a
really short amount of time. But read somewhere that there is a South Korean stage play adaptation
of The Rose of Versailles. I wonder how much of that like informed this film by forcing them to
kind of like cut down the material and like condense parts of it into montages. And I mean,
anime is really good for montages, right? You can do a lot of really interesting things in animation
that you kind of can't get away with even a regular film. But so it's got like a an interesting
component to it. Yeah. I mean, Takarazuka already did it too. Right. They have the material maybe.
マリー・アントワネットの歴史
Okay, so let's talk about the history behind of this The Rose of Versailles. All right,
shall we talk about Marie Antoinette? Okay, sure. So Marie Antoinette was an Austrian princess.
Her mother and father were the Habsburg monarchs of Austria, which was, you know, a huge empire at
the time. And she's the youngest daughter. So she was pretty much spoiled rotten growing up. Like
in my view, that's a that's an opinion. That's a hot take, not like necessarily fact. But her
tutors basically said, like, she's pretty, she's charming. She likes music, and she's good at
getting away with stuff, but she doesn't study very hard. And she was great at music. Yeah. So
she was like, she was good at music. And she was like, she was like, clever, but she didn't want
to like work and apply herself at stuff. And like, I think, especially like studying different
languages and things. So I mean, you know, when you're the last the baby daughter of one of the
richest people in the world at the time, like, it's not that surprising to me that you grow up
a little spoiled. She got in, you know, she was engaged to be married to the Prince of France,
basically as a way to unite Austria and France politically. And so, you know, her other siblings
also grew up to be super important people. One of her older brothers was the friggin Holy Roman
Emperor at the same time. So she was from a powerful family. When she got to France,
there was some political intrigue with mostly her father in law's mistress and like whether or not
she would be nice to her or not. But she had a hard time settling into the French court and
eventually became popular. There was a woman at court called Madame Pompadour, who is the woman
who invented the Pompadour hairstyle. But Marie Antoinette was also like really into big hair.
So she did a lot of like puffing up her hair, and she was really into fashion. And she also,
you know, I mean, again, I think this is like, because she grew up very, very wealthy,
she was totally fine with spending all of the French government's money on like diamonds and
jewels and stuff. Let's stop it there. So was to make the crazy hairstyle. Yes,
they used animal fat. Yeah. And dust. Yes, to make it and something they have to sleep on it,
right? To keep the hairstyle. And then they eventually had some kind of like bugs and stuff.
Well, yeah. So like the once you got your hair done in the style, you probably didn't want to
have to like redo it that way. Because it took several hours to set it. And using metals inside.
Yeah, there were there were like pins like it was very, very complex to get this kind of hairstyle.
And we didn't have like hairspray yet. So yeah, animal fat, like, you know, dust, like it had to
set into place, and then you kind of couldn't move it, it often had like feathers in it.
And then like, when you slept, you would have like a special thing to support your neck and head
so that your hairstyle didn't get ruined while you were sleeping. But if you want a couple days
without like washing it afterwards, it could get like predictably kind of gross. So I think they
said the term, like talking about someone's hair is a quote, rat's nest probably came from this
time period and this hairstyle. But yeah, so it was it was really intense. Yeah. And then the why
like do we see only pick not only but like a lot of pictures of her in gray hair.
So that's from the dust, or like, you know, whatever they were using to hold the hair
together, basically by like sprinkling that on it. And it was just the fashion of the time to like
having gray hair. Yeah, well, having like, you know, hair that was whitened in order,
I think, partly to keep the hairstyle. But yeah, so her hair being blonde in the animation is
unrealistic. All right. Thank you. Sorry for stopping you.
Where was I?
Remember the fashion and the spending a lot of money, a lot of money.
One of the reasons she has such a bad reputation as someone who spent a lot of money is this thing
that didn't really happen, where the previous king of France's like mistress ordered an enormously
expensive diamond necklace from some jewelers, then she died before she could pay for it,
though, the jewelers really needed to get their money back. And they tried to sell it to Marie
Antoinette. And she was like, I am not going to buy this thing. It's too much money. And
then a like courtier at the court convinced to the jewelers to try to sell it to her and that
マリー・アントワネットの真実
she was like acting on Marie Antoinette's behalf to buy it and forged her signature.
And so there was a piece of paper being like Marie Antoinette said she would buy this,
even though she actually didn't. And then the girl who like forged the signature eventually
sold it to like England or something, like, totally just took the money and ran. The guy
for signature eventually went to jail. But people when the king confronted Marie Antoinette being
like, did you say you were gonna buy this outrageously expensive necklace? She was like,
no. And the king believed her and people thought she totally said she would. And now she's like
tricking the king. And like later, it all came out that like it wasn't she was actually innocent,
but like no one believed that because she had been such a big spender in her life up until that
point. So yeah, she gets a lot of heat for having not been more careful with the kingdom's finances,
not that it was like up to her, there's a lot, you know, this, this movie goes takes pains to
point out, it's not really her fault. She's not the only person, but against the backdrop of like
dire poverty in France, you know, she wasn't going around trying to like help make it better. She was
living the high life with her, you know, her court. And so yeah, she became like a less popular
person over time. I think when she first arrived, she kind of won people over because she was young
and pretty and charming. And then there were a lot of rumors that she was sleeping around and that
the king's you know, her children weren't really the king's children that she had cuckolded him by
sleeping with other guys, which she seems to have had at least a very like romantic, like relationship
with somebody else, whether it got physical or not kind of hard to say. But she did have some
people she was some dudes she was very emotionally close to. So you never know. But uh, yeah, by the
end, like she got caught up in the French Revolution, didn't manage to escape. And you know,
several, I guess what nine months after her husband was put to death during the revolution.
So that's the story of the real Mary Marie Antoinette. And this movie is pretty faithful
象徴と誤解
to her character. Yeah. In the film, we saw a glance of poster. Yeah, which was looks like
Mary and ostrich combined. Yeah, it's an ostrich with her head eating like some cookies or, you
know, Madeleines or something. It was such a short, like Mormon was like, What is that? Yeah. And it's
based on a real poster that was created at the time of the French Revolution in 1789.
Of her as an ostrich. And the joke there is that the word for Austrian and the word for ostrich
in French are very similar. They're portraying her as an ostrich slash Austrian and ridiculing
her for opposing the new constitution. Do you want to talk about the famous quote,
let them eat cake? So Rousseau put in a book that he wrote when Marie Antoinette was still living
in Austria that a quote, famous, I don't know, princess had said, let them eat brioche, which is
like a fancy kind of bread, but not exactly cake. But given the fact that it shows up in Rousseau's
work before Marie Antoinette was even queen of France yet means she is not the original source
of that quote. After like 50 years after the French Revolution, some other French guy writes a book
and puts in his book, her saying, let them eat cake, or, you know, let them, I guess, think,
let them eat brioche in the context of her response to the October march, right? Where the women of
Paris march on Versailles being like, we don't have any bread. What do you got? But she almost
certainly did not actually say that. From the baker's perspective, brioche is like a fancy
bread because it needs milk, eggs and butter, a little bit of sugar. So it's kind of similar to
cake. It's closer to cake than it is, you know, than, than other types of bread. So it's like
something like, you know, the commoners can't buy easily. Right. If you can't even buy like
black bread, you're definitely not buying brioche. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about
オスカーと実在の人物
this awesome character, Oscar. She is awesome. Yes, she is so great. I love her. I think that's
how many women feel about us. That's like a big attraction of this anime, manga and the film.
Of course, this is a fictional character, but there's a person who became a model. Yeah.
There's like a person who's like thought of as the inspiration, especially for what happens
in the end of the show. There was a guy, just a regular dude who was a commoner and joined
the French guard and worked his way up to like an officer position and then quit and went back to
running a business who during the storming of the Bastille showed up with like 70 men and like five
cannons to help force the Bastille to surrender and who was also instrumental in both getting the
people inside the Bastille to give up and in protecting them from the mob once they had
surrendered. So that was a real guy, but he was a guy. He definitely never worked for Marie Antoinette
and was like a commoner and was then like not actually leading the French guard during the
revolution. He just got a bunch of like old soldier buddies to come with him and help him
take down the Bastille. But that parallels some of what Oscar is doing at the end of the movie.
And that guy was real. That's cool. Yeah. And then I was not sure about Hans, the character,
the person who fell in love. Von Friesen? Yeah. Yeah. He's a real person. Oh, that dude's
totally real. He's maybe like the most, I don't know that you want to say the most accurately
portrayed historical person in the, in the film, but yeah, he was a real guy. He met Marie Antoinette
when they were 18. He talked to her for several hours at a party without knowing who she was,
then found out she was, you know, the Dauphiné and was like, oh, snap. Then went away for like
a couple of years, then came back and they seem to have had an intense romantic connection.
Again, whether physical or not is sort of unclear, but certainly a lot of rumors about that. He spent
a lot of time with her. He showed up at her card parties, you know, they knew each other well.
And then as the rumors started to swirl around them, he left in 1780 to go fight in the American
Revolutionary War under Rochambeau. And so he met George Washington and like had nice things to say
about him and stuff. Like he was in the American Revolution basically. And then came back to Paris
again and spent like the rest of his time in Paris where I think he kind of like had a better sense of
propriety after that, but he was instrumental in trying to help the King and Queen escape from the
Tuileries when they were imprisoned in Paris. And everyone except Marie Antoinette I think got out,
like the rest of them got in the carriage and like went to another town and got in another carriage
and went to another town, but then they all got caught. And so after they got caught and it became
public knowledge that like he had helped them try to escape, he had to flee the country and he went
to Germany and then like was working on trying to get Marie Antoinette out of France. Couldn't put
a workable plan together before she was executed. So that's pretty sad. And whether he was like
always deeply in love with her as is portrayed in the show is, you know, up for debate a little
bit, but I think there were some letters found like kind of recently that suggested they had
like a, they had a very intense connection. Again, physical, maybe, maybe not, but romantic. Oh yeah,
that part's real. Cool. Yeah. All right. Then let's talk about our thoughts about this film.
作品への影響
You were talking about like you, now you understand better about Revolutionary Girl Utena. Yeah.
So I wrote my college thesis on Revolutionary Girl Utena. I spent a really long time thinking
about that show, but I'd never seen this one. And the influence that this manga had on Revolutionary
Girl Utena is really, really obvious. Everything from the character design to the symbolism of the
roses and stuff is like all replicated there. And the character of Oscar is a hugely important
like, you know, predecessor to, you know, Tenjo Utena in Revolutionary Girl Utena. Even the
hairstyle. Yeah, the hair. Well, Utena's hair is pink and it's pretty straight, but she does have
long hair, quote, like a girl, even though she is trying to be a prince for most of the show and
wearing like a male uniform and stuff. But that show has a lot of, it's examining a lot of the
same ideas about what does it mean to be both a woman and like in a masculine role, but without
being a masculine person. So yeah, I really enjoyed watching this and getting to know Oscar as a
character because of my deep love for Utena as a show. I just loved, enjoyed it. Like Oscar being
a strong woman. And I also liked the, like a love triangle between those like main four
characters. It was like very classic. Totally. Anime from 70s. Yeah. And like those eyes. The
eyes are pretty intense, you know, with the stars, like the eight, like, you know, like whole constellations
in their eyes. Right. So sparkly. So many stars. I remember like when I try to like mimic like,
you know, drawing like pictures from manga, that's how I drew it. And then it was like
kind of nostalgic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some of the haircuts, the hairstyles are pretty 70s.
And there's a couple of different scenes where it really seems like Oscar's wearing bell-bottoms,
which is hilarious because I'm pretty sure bell-bottoms, like we're not the style in
revolutionary France. Also, there's two scenes of Oscar and Andre in the like, in the cloud,
like holding each other and in a Greek style. Yeah. I mean, there's some of that does feel like
an intentional callback to Castor and Pollux that, you know, the twins, the constellation
Gemini, the idea that they're sort of like the same person, which is playing a lot with like,
you know, their genders, right? Like there's, I read some like quick criticism via Wikipedia of
people being like, Oh, this relationship between Andre and Oscar is kind of the forerunner of like
boys love type stories where they are equals or like, you know, they are treating each other as
equals, even though she's technically a woman and he's technically a man. There's a lot of like
erasure of like what their genders mean, partly because they're in a role reversed relationship,
and partly because she's fighting for liberty, equality, fraternity, and you know, all those,
like all of that sort of plays into that. But yeah, there's several characters actually,
who show up in sort of like Greek inspired clothing. And with when it's Andre and Oscar,
again, it seems like a callback to Castor and Pollux that the Gemini twins when it's the other
two, I can't remember exactly like which Greek myth or like thing they're drawing on there,
but I have a feeling it's probably like another specific reference to like something from Ovid
or whatever. I wonder what's the perspective is like for viewers who knew about this back in 70s.
To see it again now? Yeah. I wondered whether the presentation of Oscar wasn't
like sort of more feminine in this movie then. I mean, I think they're probably drawing on the
source material pretty closely because it's like an homage, but I wondered whether, you know,
the 70s is kind of like a really feminist decade. And like the 2020s do not feel like a very
feminist decade to me. And maybe that's a bit more in America than Japan. But like,
it was really interesting to watch this from like a 2025 perspective being like, you know,
are the moments where Oscar is feeling more like a quote unquote woman, you know, retrograde, right?
Are they like, are they celebratory? Are they kind of like the culture pushing back?
Do I, as someone who grew up in like the 90s and 2000s, like want Oscar to like reject femininity
because that's what like true feminism is? Or like, is it okay to like have both? Like, I think,
I think the 1970s story is exploring that. And I think the 2025, you know, version is still
exploring that, you know, that that may be sort of like an unresolved question in our culture of
オスカーとマリーの対比
like, can you be both feminine and strong? Do you have to give up one of these things to have the
other? Like, you know, what does it mean to try to be both? And I think part of what makes Oscar
such a great character is Oscar, like doesn't really sacrifice her femininity in order to be
like, you know, powerful, but always shows up in male clothes, like totally has sort of like male
to male interactions with most of the other people around her, like is not actually transforming the
role of what it means to be a woman is just a woman in a male role. And that doesn't really
seem like it's changing, like everything. And so I think there's, you know, Revolutionary Girl
Lieutenant has different thoughts about that, but is still asking a lot of the same questions,
like, who does the revolution? And who is it for? And like, what do you have to like be like,
in order to be able to pull that off? So I think all those all those questions are still kind of
hanging there. All right. Okay, let's do word of the day. All right.
Today's word of the day is hokori. Hokori. Pride. Not the dust. Not the dust. Not the dust. Yeah,
pride. And I think the reason that I thought this might be a useful word to know about is
often when Oscar's looking at Marie Antoinette, especially in the latter part of the show,
Oscar describes Marie as full of pride, proud, regal, dignified, all those sort of words.
The good way and the bad way.
Yeah, both. Also, Oscar also cares about pride, or is sort of noble in ways that are different
from the ways in which Marie is noble. The symbolism for both characters is a rose,
because it's the Rose of Versailles. But Marie's rose is a red rose, and Oscar's rose is a white
rose. The same symbolism shows up in Revolutionary Girl Lieutenant, too. But the red rose is sort of
like, you know, I mean, it's the color of literal blood. Marie is a bloodborne royal,
who thinks blood matters and makes her the queen. And she's, you know, beautiful and
dig, you know, like, like, you know, full of pride about who she is and what she represents,
but is also sort of like the more corrupt of the two, right? Kind of has an affair,
right? At least an emotional affair with someone who's not her husband, you know,
can't give up her sort of lavish ways, like, you know, refuses to let go of that sort of pride.
Oscar's nobility comes really from her spirit, not from her bloodline. Yes, her family's noble,
but she throws away her noble medal at the end and like, says, you know, and is fighting for
the cause of the French Revolution, you know, Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité. So that Oscar
also has quite a lot of pride, but it's linked to being a good person, not being, you know,
the right kind of, or, you know, the, you know, born from the right family.
文学的参照
Got it. All right. Anything else you'd like to add before we end?
There's a reference in the show to a novel, Julie or the New Heloise, Heloise, excuse me,
by Rousseau, which is a real novel that, you know, is examining some of the same issues that
Oscar is sort of thinking about, you know, duty, like, you know, love, passion, some other stuff.
It's a, it's really long. It's like 600 pages. I've never read it. I'm not really planning to
read it. It was an enormous hit in the 1700s. Like it was, it was very widely read by people
at the time. And I think the crux of the story is very much like a love story of like, you know,
a love that can't be, you know, consummated and like, how do you live with that afterwards?
And so some of the story of Marie Antoinette and on Friesen and of Andre and of Oscar is
sort of replicated there and what it thinks about virtue and about love. So it's cool that they kind
of shout out that book and same human themes just keep coming back around century after century.
That's true. That's true. Well, kind of this entire time I was watching the film,
I couldn't help thinking about Les Mis and it weirdly, it makes me want to watch Les Mis.
Yeah. Les Mis is not about this French revolution. Oh yeah. France has had a lot
映画の音楽とアニメの特徴
of revolutions. It turns out Les Mis is about a failed revolution from the 18, I want to say 1840s.
Okay. But in Les Mis, you know, the spoiler alert, the rebels lose like at the end, you know,
they're like the people of Paris sleep in their beds. Like they're not rising, like
nobody's coming. We're just going to die here. Right. So it's not the French revolution of 1789.
It's a later French revolution, um, that didn't, didn't succeed where they, they failed. Right.
But it's still about like people in poverty and people who are struggling and suffering
and the human condition. Yeah. The story is about a different time period, but it's got a
lot of the same themes about like caring about people and nobility and love and some of those
other things. And yeah, I, I really didn't mind a lot of the songs in this movie. Like I liked them
more than I thought I was going to. It's very Japanese. But I was bothered by how much of it
was in English. I was surprised by how good the pronunciation of the English is given that they're
all like Japanese singers. Like they clearly had some voice coaches come in and be like, guys,
this is how you pronounce things in English. As I can remember correctly, the voice actor who did
Oscar is really good at English. No kidding. Like, so the English pronunciation is like way more on
point than you usually hear in like typical J-pop, which is like kind of weird, but kind of cool,
but kind of threw me out, threw me off a little bit. And a lot of English in the songs. Like,
usually it'll be like one or two words in English in a J-pop song. Here you have like
three, four sentences in a row in English. Maybe they're trying to like, have a like a vibe or
like a European. Yeah. But then why not do it in French? I know. I don't think people would understand
in Japan. I don't know. There's a lot of like random French in Japan too. Yeah, that's true.
Anyway, it was fine. But yeah, Les Mis has better music. Sorry. You're not going to top,
you're not going to top Les Mis in terms of your music score. So it was a good movie overall,
but yeah, could the music, the music was, you know what, on its own. Great. But Les Mis is
better. Would you recommend this anime to your students? I think it would depend on the student.
I think like, you kind of have to be in the market for a shoujo anime to really enjoy this,
I think. Like, I think if you're like a, if you're someone who watches anime and is like,
you know, what's really good solo leveling, like, no, like, this is probably not for you.
But if you've ever seen Revolutionary Girl Uchina, you were like, that was pretty interesting.
This is great. And if you like Les Mis, you would probably enjoy this story. It's got a
lot of the same type of beats in it. You know, like, for the right person, yeah, I would recommend
it. Like it is an interesting thing. But I also just like kept getting the feeling as I watched
this movie that I wish I had read the manga, especially in the first half of the film when
they're like recapping everything in these like really short montages that are obviously showing
you like the most famous panel from like the arc that they're skipping in like 15 seconds. It made
me it made me curious to read the manga and like get like a deeper version of the story. So I think
in that sense, it was a good sort of like ad for what the manga was. And the actual animation is
gorgeous. And the montages where you can tell they that's like where a lot of like MAPPA's like
original, like design came into it are beautiful. Yeah, I would recommend it to people who like
shoujo manga. And I would recommend it to people who are interested in French history. And I would
recommend it to people who think an anime musical is a cool idea. And I would not recommend it to
people who are like, one piece is the best, you know, not one piece me. But if you're like,
you're like bleach is the best. Yeah, I'm gonna be like,
my hero academia, like some jump manga. Yeah, yeah. This is not in the same category.
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