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Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast.
Hey guys, how's it going?
Yeah, go ahead.
Oh, so weekly update about World Cup.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are you still watching it?
I heard that the long hair guy, I forgot the name.
Holland?
Holland.
Holland's lost.
Yes.
Holland's, uh, Netherland?
Was it Netherland?
Uh, against England.
Yeah.
Holland is Netherland, right?
Uh, Norway.
Sorry, yeah, Norway.
Yeah, Norway lost against England.
And I guess Holland was not in a very goodcondition.
He was feeling sick, I heard.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Yes, I heard the news that whole Norway team gotsick.
That's very unfortunate.
Yeah, so Holland wasn't, I mean, he couldn't runeven.
He couldn't chase the ball.
He, yeah.
But that's very sad.
It was very sad.
Unfortunate.
Yeah, seeing him without any energy.
Yeah.
Yeah, he couldn't even chase the defenders.
He was just walking.
Oh, that's sad.
Okay.
And his face was like red.
Wow.
Looked obviously like he wasn't in shape.
Ah, okay.
That's unfortunate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, those things could happen, right?
It's a cluster of people, the team, right?
And so it could very much happen.
Yeah.
And it's a long tournament.
So.
Yeah.
That's sad.
That's sad.
Is that the big news or is there any other bigones?
That's one of the big news.
Yes, Holland lost.
Okay.
Norway lost.
Yeah.
But like Messi, Argentina won.
The Gekitiki victory?
Yes.
Is that what you're talking about?
Again.
Wait, against who?
Against Argentina.
That was against Swiss.
Swiss.
Okay.
Yes.
So during the match, there were a red card.
I mean, the second yellow card for the Switzerlandforward player.
By doing a simulation.
Simulation, is that how you say?
It's like one of the fouls that you trick theshimpan.
Oh, okay.
By acting that I've got a serious foul from theopponent.
Oh, okay.
It's like you dive.
We call it dive.
But you're dribbling and without any touch, you dothat and you fall and you roll.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's called simulation.
Okay.
And that happened during the match.
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But what's special about that match was at first,Xu Xin put a yellow card to the Argentinadefender.
Okay.
So Xu Xin thought the Switzerland forward wasactually tackled.
Okay.
And actually got fouled.
Okay.
So put yellow card to the Argentina guy.
And then because the VAR team, the video teamthought it's a mistake.
Because Xu Xin put yellow card to the wrongplayer.
Okay.
And that's why VAR could get in the game.
Okay.
Because usually yellow card isn't the VAR Taishou.
Oh, okay.
But because it was the wrong player, the VAR camein.
And after the review, Xu Xin saw there were noclear, like, seishoku.
Okay.
And then the judgment changed.
Like no yellow card to the Argentina defender.
But yellow card to the Switzerland forward.
Okay.
And then that was the second yellow card for thatguy.
Okay.
And he had to go out.
Oh, okay.
Wait, two yellow cards have to go out?
Yes.
Two yellow cards mean one red card.
Oh, okay.
Got it, got it, got it.
So the first one, he got it from some random otherstuff.
Okay, okay, okay.
And that's a bit a thing.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because, well, yes, simulation is obviously it'snot a good act.
It's not a good thing.
But it's, first of all, it's rare that you getyellow card from simulation.
Oh, okay.
Especially if it was, like, if you were in, like,penalty area and you get simulation,
that can be a yellow card.
Okay.
Because it's...
Much more intense.
Yeah, you're trying to get a penalty kick by doingthat.
So it can be, like, more easily get yellow card bysimulation.
But it was, like, completely, like, mid of thatfield.
Oh, okay.
It was random places.
Okay.
And so to me, that was, like, I mean, yellow cardis it?
That's too much.
That was one.
And also, because Xu Xin put yellow card to theArgentine defender.
Okay.
First, right?
At first.
Because of that, VAR could came in to the game.
So if Xu Xin didn't put yellow card to theArgentina guy, just if Xu Xin said just a foul.
Okay.
There were nothing.
Oh, okay.
Sure.
So it's like a...
I see.
I see.
Yeah.
I would say it's so very, very unlucky, I'd say,to the Switzerland forward.
Right, right.
So...
That's true.
Yeah.
So they started investigation on something else,but on the way, they found something else.
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It's like that.
And then they gave a red card, yellow card forthat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And to me, like, even with the VAR, no yellow cardto the Argentine defender.
And simulation foul to the Switzerland guy, noyellow card, was the right decision.
It feels like that to me.
Okay.
But if they use VAR, that means you put wrongyellow card.
You put yellow card to the wrong player.
So if you use VAR, yellow card should be put to adifferent player.
Right.
So, you know.
And then they became 10 players on the field.
And Argentina, like, start, you know, attackingheavily and heavily.
Oh, so originally the VAR was to put the yellowcard on a different Argentina player?
Yeah, Argentine player.
Okay.
Argentine defender.
A different Argentina defender than the one thatthe referee on the field originally gave.
Yeah, the referees thought that defender wasattacked, did a foul to the Switzerland forward.
Did a Switzerland forward.
Yeah.
Right, right.
But the reason why the VAR came in was why, again?
Because the VAR team thought the referee putyellow card to the wrong player.
That means not him, but him.
Oh, the one who received the attack.
Yes, yes, yes.
I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see.
Wait, so the first referee, the referee gave theyellow card for simulation.
For a foul.
For just attacking, oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha,gotcha.
But the VAR team was like, hey, isn't this asimulation instead of like an attack foul?
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay, okay.
And then the yellow card switches to theSwitzerland.
Gotcha, gotcha.
And yeah, that's understandable.
There were no like crazy thing.
But still, it was very unlucky, I'd say.
Oh, okay, okay.
But the original motive for the VAR team was togive the yellow card to the simulator.
Yes, yes, yes.
So in that sense, it wasn't like an unluckydiscovery, right?
Yes.
True, true.
They found it.
Yeah.
Isn't that normal, though?
No?
Yeah, it's in the range of the normal act, normaljudgment, I would say.
But it's the very edge.
Oh, okay, okay.
So usually the VAR team don't come in.
They just leave it to the referee on the field.
Yeah, because it's just a yellow card.
Oh, okay.
It's VAR for meant to be used in like a veryserious occasion of like a goal or not.
Ah, okay.
Or a red card or not.
I see.
Not like just a foul or yellow card things.
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Oh, okay.
So...
I see.
Yeah.
It's because of the simulation guy thatSwitzerland forward did it too good.
Oh.
So that's why the referee thought there were aserious foul and then put yellow card.
Okay.
And that's why it all started.
So...
Oh, I see.
I see.
So I guess one of the VAR team was like,
I actually saw it.
It was a simulation.
I saw it.
I'm confident.
Yeah.
We can't let this go.
Yeah.
Well, do you think that kind of happened?
Yes, yes, yes.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
And are people pissed about that?
Some people.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I'm not pissing about that, pissing off aboutthat.
It's totally range of the usual judgment.
It's my stance from the whole beginning aboutArgentina.
But people are saying that Argentina is beingfavored by FIFA.
Okay.
They say, some people saying that they are two,
like they are like two Argentina side judgments,two, you know.
I see.
I see.
Favored.
Oh, okay.
And then that happened.
So some people says that, there we go again.
Oh, okay.
Is this like historically repeating?
In this tournament.
In this tournament?
Yeah.
Well, like Trump shit?
It's not exactly the same thing, but related.
I see.
It feels like the FIFA is a little bit biasedtowards one country.
Yes, exactly.
Oh, I see.
And it's boosted by the Trump thing.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Oh, then FIFA can do that.
Right.
Like if FIFA moves by power and money, then wenever know what's happening underneath the layer.
Right.
Right.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's true.
But to me, my stance isn't that.
The judgments are just fine.
Okay.
Just in the range of the usual judgment.
Barely.
Yeah.
They're not like favored.
Argentina isn't favored by FIFA.
It's my stance.
But yeah, some people are saying like that.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
I see.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, is there like a racist thing going on?
I saw like a speed.
Is he like, is there trouble around him?
Not really.
No.
Okay.
Doing here.
No.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just saw a little bit.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I see.
What are we up to now?
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I think we're up to four countries now.
Spain.
France.
Exactly.
Argentina.
England.
England.
Yes.
Who's in England?
Who's a star player?
Harry Kane.
Harry Kane.
Okay.
Jude Bellingham.
Okay.
So, maybe there are no guy, Osaka.
No.
No.
I've never heard of any of the players you said.
Okay.
Harry Kane is the captain.
Oh, okay.
And Jude Bellingham is the master on the midfield.
I see.
Who else?
Yeah.
If you don't know Harry Kane and.
And you probably don't know any of the other ones.
All right.
Maybe not.
Well, France is led by Mbappé.
Yes.
Spain, Yamal.
Yes.
Who did I say was the other one?
England.
England.
Because Harry Kane.
Harry Kane and Jude Bellingham.
And Argentina by Messi.
So, it's like, it's rare that like four countriesthat's been said, you show Koho.
Oh, it's still there?
It's still there.
It's very rare.
I would say it's very Junto that they are here.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
With stars like, you know, Messi, Mbappé.
You didn't know about Jude Bellingham, Harry Kane.
Yamal, Pedori.
They are like the stars.
Stars, stars and they are there.
Okay.
Well, that's very exciting.
Top four then.
Yeah.
I mean, so next game, Spain against France.
So, Yamal, Pedri against Mbappé and crazy stars.
It's going to be a...
Big one.
Big one.
And the other side, Messi, Argentina againstEngland.
Yes.
That's going to be a big one.
Big one as well.
Because Argentina and England has been the hugerival for decades.
For more than decades, I guess.
It used to become like a real fight sometimes.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
They hate each other.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is there a historical, like a political stuffbehind or are they close?
Are they nearby or...?
Not really.
They've just always been on the same level ofstrength.
They've been always fighting each other.
Oh, okay.
The fans.
I see.
High energy.
They hate each other.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, they're exciting.
They're exciting.
Yeah.
In Spain, France, it's just a neighbor country andboth have like top standards.
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Very high standard, right?
Can't wait.
When is the next match?
It's going to be on Wednesday, I think.
Again.
Yeah.
It's France, Spain, Wednesday.
And Thursday, England, Argentina, if my memory iscorrect.
Very exciting.
Very exciting.
And then the Halftime Show.
Yeah, yeah.
I have to watch the Halftime Show.
I'm excited for that too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's announced that Justin Bieber is also in theHalftime Show.
I heard that, man.
That's a lot of stars.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to watch that too.
Very exciting.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Thank you.
Bye.