メッシ選手の意外な一面
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Yeah, so we talked about Messi, right?
So there was just one just quick information.
Many people think Messi is one of a very sweet-hearted, very gentle, very calm, who lovesfootball, who doesn't like fight and everything.
But as a huge Messi fan, he's not.
He loves fight.
He does?
I mean, I'm not saying he loves fight, but he hasthat mentality in him.
Like if somebody picks up a fight with him, he'llfight back?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Sometimes he kicks the ball into the opponent'sbench.
Oh.
He, I don't know, he sometimes does those things.
He's not like one of those like just calm andpretty, cute, cool little guy.
He, yeah.
I kind of had that image of he was very calm.
He's calm, but like inside he's like veryoutrageous sometimes.
Wow, aggressive.
Yes.
Wow.
Yes.
I did not know that.
Yeah.
Cristiano Ronaldo is more like a gentleman.
Oh, is he?
Yeah.
Does he pick up fights too?
Not many times.
So I guess Messi does more of a fight.
Yeah.
I think so.
Wow.
I think so.
I thought that was like the opposite.
Yeah.
That's the public image, but in reality Cristianois, he's like a, he acts like a gentleman.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Messi is more like a fighter, I'd say.
There's not much video, you know, going aroundwith Messi.
True.
Picking up fights, you know?
True.
Yeah.
Maybe one reason is Messi is very clever.
So he doesn't like punch or kick.
But like he tricks people and he, you know, teasesthe defenders and everything.
And then the defenders will like punch him or kickhim.
And then he will like lay down on the floor andjust, yeah.
And then just the defender got red card andeverything.
Like he's very sneaky.
Yeah.
He's very clever, I'd say.
Wow.
Haraguro.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's not those like cute little boy guy.
But he only does it to the people who did himwrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
To respectful players, he would be just asrespectful.
Of course.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
He's a nice guy.
Overall, yes.
FIFAで最もマナーの悪い選手
Who's like the worst mannered player in FIFA?
Pepe.
That was a quick one.
Or Sergio Ramos.
Those two.
Pepe?
I've heard that name before, Pepe.
Yeah, I hate those two players.
Pepe?
Yeah, Pepe.
P.E.P.E.
P.E.P.E., yes.
Yeah, that guy.
Helm.
Which team is he in?
He's retired.
Ah, okay.
But he was in Real Madrid.
Real Madrid?
Yeah.
One of the top?
No?
Yeah, one of the famous.
One of the most famous.
Football club, I guess.
All right, I gotta read the air here.
Okay, one of the famous.
Oh, you okay?
So he's a pretty sneaky player, huh?
I didn't like him.
He does a little bit of a, you know, you know.
He wasn't even sneaky.
He was just violent and...
Oh, he was violent?
Yeah, he kicked...
Right in front of the referee?
Yeah, he kicked Messi.
He kicked players and just got red card and justpunch.
And I don't know.
Well, that doesn't make any sense.
Nobody wants to get a red card, right?
Off the field, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And who was that?
Sergio, Sergio Ramos.
That's Sergio, S-E-R-G-I-O-R-A-M-O-S.
Right, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, a big tattoo on the neck.
Yeah.
Which team is he in?
He's currently in Miami.
Miami?
Is he American?
He's Spanish.
He's Spanish?
But he used to play in Real Madrid.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, one of the...I don't know.
One of the most money-paying, money-wasting club,I would say.
But he, you know, he goals, no?
Yeah, he's a defender.
Oh, he's a defender.
Just like Pepe.
Oh, they're both defenders.
Yeah, I don't like him.
Yeah, but he used...he now...
So, Messi was in Barcelona and this guy was inReal Madrid.
Okay.
And it's the huge enemy.
Oh, okay.
It's like...
The lifelong enemy.
Yeah, it's never be the same kind of, you know.
Yeah.
Fight each other every time, every time.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so they fight each other every time.
And this guy, Sergio, was very dirty.
So he kicked and he fouled Messi like...
And, you know, very dirty way, like sneaky waystoo.
Yeah.
And that's why I don't like him.
And I knew Messi hate this guy.
Oh, really?
Okay.
They didn't like each other and they fight everytime, every time.
敵対関係からチームメイトへ
But now, Messi is in Miami.
Okay.
And this guy transferred to that club two yearsago.
So they are now in the same club.
Oh, shit.
Same team.
Oh, shit.
And they look they're doing well with each other.
But I don't know.
I'm still doubting that.
Oh, doubting?
It's something I can't believe.
But you can't really tell from the field?
Yeah, no.
Maybe they just, I don't know.
Nakanaori and just being friends, maybe.
But I just cannot believe this.
It's...
But, right, I mean, just literally kicking him andpunching him is just straight-up violence.
Yeah.
Straight-up violence.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's illegal.
Yes.
Yeah.
暴力的なプレーの必要性
Yes.
My god.
They are.
Yeah, those players.
Oh, no, no, no.
Why would any coach want those players?
Because sometimes it's necessary to win the game,I guess.
Oh, really?
Those.
To use force?
Yeah, those, like, I don't know.
Powerfulness.
Those heart.
So it's not the violence aspect.
It's more like the mentality of doing whatever ittakes.
Yes, yes, yes.
So also they are defenders.
So sometimes they have to stop those strikers,those top players.
No matter what.
Even if, yeah.
Yeah.
It's like those, you know.
I see, I see.
Yeah, okay.
Not a very good sportsmanship.
No, right?
At all.
Not at all.
Not at all.
I won't be shaking hands with them.
I won't be shaking hands with them if theyappeared in front of me and just say,
Hi.
Yes, I say hi, but...
Oh, wow.
I remember what you do.
My God.
That's a very strong opinion right there, man.
Very strong stance.
Yes.
現在のサッカー界
All right.
So Pepe and Sergio Ramos.
Yeah.
I remember them.
Yeah, but they retired.
Oh, they retired.
Yeah, they...
They won't get to see him anymore.
Yeah, I understand.
Good, good.
None of the current players are that bad?
Current players?
Well, not many bad players in that way, like evilplayers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to know the evil players.
Yeah, football getting like cleaner and cleaner, Iguess.
Oh, that's great.
That's great.
That's great.
All right.
Yeah.
All right.
That's good news.
Yeah.
All right.
Thanks for coming, guys.
Thank you.
Goodbye.
