高級寿司屋のランキング
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OK. So, this is...
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Well, I have a...
So, you're the most gourmet guy I know.
Really?
You are. To me, you're the most gourmet guy I know.
OK. OK. OK.
You have a lot of experience in food.
Oh, I love eating, yes.
Yeah?
So, I had this occasion where I was looking at the top 20 restaurants in Tokyo.
OK.
For 食べログ? ranking right here.
Yeah.
東京グルメ人気ランキングトップ20
人気ランキングね。OK.
東京都にある137,000の中からランキングトップ20を発表。
高級寿司の食体験
Yeah, it's pretty recent, yeah.
The top one.
新橋中野星野
I do that a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do that a lot.
Yeah, it's no problem.
I'm sure you know.
I do that a lot.
新橋星野
It's 50,000 to 60,000 yen.
OK.
OK.
So, let's start the conversation.
OK.
What the hell?
What the hell does a food have to be to be グルメ人気ランキングトップ20?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
Have you been to these really good places?
I'm sure you have.
You're the most gourmet guy I know.
I'm sure you have.
Yes, yes.
I mean, not like this level, though.
Look at the first one and the second one.
I know those second places.
That's a really famous sushi place.
I cannot even reserve this place.
It's 杉田?
Yeah.
Oh, this is popular?
Yeah.
Like, you cannot reserve this place.
Because it's too famous and just it's lining up for...
So, it's like 半年一年待ち or something like that?
Yeah, those things, those things.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you tried going?
I tried, but I couldn't.
Well, let's try to...
Don't they have a web...
Web, like, uniform or something?
No, they don't have it?
Don't they have, like, a choose your day, choose your meal?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They don't have any of that yet?
No?
They don't have it?
Yeah.
So, you gotta call.
Yeah.
But, yeah, okay.
What's the most fanciest sushi place you've ever went to?
Like, the most fancy.
How much do you think it was?
Like, the price?
The most expensive sushi restaurant that I've...
Yeah.
I think...
Tokyo or...
Yeah, Tokyo, yes.
I think that was more than 3,000,000 yen, though.
Oh.
Yeah.
How many food, how many, like, how many nigiris did you get?
So, in that place, they serve not only, like, nigiris, but also little dishes, too.
Oh, okay.
And in total, like...
I think...
I guess the average amount?
Yeah.
And I was completely full.
Completely full?
Yeah.
Okay.
I see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see.
But for, like, a Japanese restaurant, then, like, 50,000 yen, 60,000 yen, you know?
That's...
Yeah, that's expensive, yeah?
It is expensive.
It's...
It's a crazy world.
Yeah.
It's a crazy world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I was working...
When I was working in the company, the travel agency, I sometimes reserved those places for the VIPs.
Yeah, those VIPs and everybody.
And so, I had to know the restaurants, you know?
Okay.
And there are two types of restaurants.
Okay.
Like, I would say there are two types of expensive restaurants.
Okay.
One is the real, authentic, good, expensive restaurants.
Interesting.
The other one is...
It's...
I'm not saying faking, but they say that they are expensive restaurants.
I see.
And that's why they are popular.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
So, they are...
So, that's what my boss told me.
Interesting.
偽の高級寿司屋の実態
There are two types of restaurants, so don't judge by the prices.
You have to know...
For example, you can't make a reservation.
Yeah.
You've got two types.
One is, like, really popular and you cannot...
Like, you have to really wait for a long time.
But the other one, it's just they don't open the slot.
I see.
And then they just pretend it's, like, full forever.
I see.
Actually, it's the...
They're kind of faking it.
Wow.
And so that they became famous as...
Right, right, right.
And then...
They just want the title.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, shit.
It's interesting.
So, yeah.
But I'm sure, like, this one...
They're not fake.
Yeah, it's the authentic one.
How do you...
How can you tell?
So, it's really difficult.
It's really difficult, I think.
So, one is, like, if they have traditions.
What?
Traditions.
Oh, okay, I see.
For, like, more than, I don't know...
Like, a hundred years or something, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're highly authentic.
Yeah.
Whereas, like, they were, like, just...
Three months ago, they opened and just...
Okay, okay.
How is it possible?
Is it possible?
Like, you know, it's highly, highly...
Yeah.
Okay.
Or...
You know, there are, like, some chefs.
Yeah.
Or, like, they're saying, like...
Yeah.
Those things, like...
They sometimes, like, fake that, too.
Oh, they're, like, they're straight up lying?
Yeah, like, they just...
Like, アルバイト did at this one restaurant.
Really famous restaurant.
And they just do that little アルバイト at the different store.
They could just be washing dishes.
Yeah, yeah, can be.
I see.
As if they were, like, fully trained under the master chef.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interesting.
So...
But you can't...
You cannot.
You don't know that, right?
You can't really...
You can't know that.
There's no evidence of, like...
You can't really...
Yeah.
Like, I get that that's possible.
Like, you can market yourself as like that, right?
You don't...
You can say whatever you want.
So, I guess, I can imagine that happening.
Yeah.
But it's true that you can't...
How do you look through that bullshit?
Right, right.
Yeah.
And also...
Yeah.
It's difficult to tell differences between those.
But, you know...
And sometimes it's good, though.
Right?
So, it's just...
I feel like it just comes down to, like...
Maybe people don't want authenticity.
Like, maybe they're not looking for authenticity,
but people are just looking for what's popular and what's fucking...
The experience, like, that they believe.
Right.
That the audience just wants the title, too, maybe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That I went to the place that has paid 50,000 yen and just had dinner.
Yeah.
So, that's what they're providing, so...
Sure.
But...
I...
I love sushi.
And I sometimes go, like, expensive sushis in special days.
And I remember there was this time I went to...
寿司の品質と偽物
That was close to 30,000 yen, this restaurant.
I thought that was authentic ones.
But I knew that wasn't that good.
How did you know?
I...
The fishes...
The restaurant itself wasn't, like, not fancy.
It was just one random...
I don't say takkyabiru, but it wasn't...
It was a little bit dirty?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It wasn't proper...
Sushi, you know, authentic ones.
They clean everything.
It wasn't like that.
Wow.
So, sometimes they have those ones.
Those, I guess, are the lower quality fakers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If they're, like, higher quality fakers, that's good.
They provide higher quality things, so...
They're good, but...
Interesting.
Yeah.
But at that moment, like, you knew, kind of, like, after tasting the fish...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It wasn't fresh.
Well...
It was fresh, but not worth some Mayan fresh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Wow.
Yeah.
Interesting.
That's interesting.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Right.
And, um...
You know, um...
Yakiniku place that we once went...
Twice went to go together?
Yeah.
I love that meat.
Mm-hmm.
And it's more...
It's expensive.
But it's not, like...
Yeah, not these, yeah.
Yeah.
And, um...
Well, this is not the place I paid.
I was kind of invited.
Mm-hmm.
It was...
I'm not saying I...
I just...
Having money and just spending a lot.
I'm not saying this.
I was just invited.
Okay.
I didn't pay anything.
Okay, you didn't pay anything.
I was lucky.
And that was, like...
Really?
Oh.
Well, here together...
That was a different story, though.
Yes.
But same vibe.
Okay.
Anyway, um...
It was way more expensive than the one we went to together.
Okay.
Okay.
And...
I thought the quality was...
Wasn't really, really higher.
Are you talking about...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The...
The guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
But you see what I'm saying.
Did you feel that?
Did you feel that?
Like...
Okay, I...
I didn't know.
Honestly speaking, I didn't...
I didn't feel anything.
Oh, okay, okay.
Honestly speaking.
Honestly?
Okay, okay, okay.
But at the same time, it wasn't like,
I want to come here again.
It wasn't that.
I see, I see, I see.
I'm not that kind of a...
Just like what happened...
I didn't...
I didn't...
That was good.
The place that we went to.
The...
Oh, yes.
We went to the...
Fish.
No, no, no, no.
I was talking about the yakiniku.
Yes, yes, yes.
I like that, but...
That too, I'm like...
Oh, I probably won't reserve this myself.
Like, I'm okay with other yakiniku places.
I'm that kind of guy to begin with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like...
Yeah, so for that too...
That place too, I didn't...
I honestly didn't feel anything.
Okay, okay.
I mean, it was good.
Yeah, I mean...
It was good.
They're good.
They were good.
Yeah.
Meats were good, yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
Got it.
But yeah, you know...
Yeah.
So sometimes those things can happen.
Like, so I rather want something delicious.
高級寿司の幻想
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not seeking for like popularity or like long reservation.
I rather don't want those.
Like, I just quickly eat and good things.
That's the best.
Yeah, right.
So sometimes even looks good, looks expensive, doesn't...
It doesn't match.
Yeah, yeah.
Because for like experience fee can be included.
Yeah.
Like those...
Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
Title fee, I would say.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Interesting.
All right.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
