ゲスト・ふくらPさんの登場と英語学習への意欲
Welcome to Kevin's English Room Podcast.
Hello.
Okay, so we have a very special guest here with ustoday.
Yes, yes.
ふくらPさん!
Yay!
Thank you.
Hi, I'mふくらP.
Hello.
お願いします。
So, thank you for being here.
Yeah.
I didn't know you could speak English.
I can't speak English.
Okay, okay.
But I wanna study English.
So, someday I met Yama-chan, and I wanna practiceto speak English.
So, Yama-chan told me, come on, our podcast.
Did you know about the podcast before?
Oh my god, wow, thank you.
I listened to this.
The Kevin's English Room Podcast?
Yes.
Wow.
He told me.
Thank you.
We went to that 10th anniversary exhibition ofthem.
The event, right?
Yes, yes, yes.
That was great, by the way.
It was very fun.
And then I met him.
Okay.
And he was like, I'm actually learning English,and I'm listening to your podcast.
And I was like, wow, really?
And I kind of forced him to come to the show, andlike, yeah, come to the show.
Yeah.
Okay, okay.
And you're comfortable in this English-speakingenvironment, right?
We're okay.
Like, we could switch to Japanese if you're notcomfortable talking in English, like,
throughout the whole show.
Or we could do it in English.
Is that okay?
Is that okay?
この日本語に会うの別に大丈夫なんですけど、英語で続けて大丈夫?
これは?
Yes.
All right.
If you say so.
I want to try.
I want to try to speak English.
Ah, got it, got it, got it.
I want to try to listen.
Okay.
Gotcha.
アメリカ旅行とポーカー大会での活躍
So, if I can't listen to your English.
Sorry.
Pardon.
Could you say that again?
Gotcha.
Yeah, gotcha.
Yeah, tell me that, and we'll repeat it.
Make sure you understand.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Awesome.
And if my English is wrong, could you tell me?
Got it, got it.
We'll be...
Yeah, we'll tell you whenever.
He's got the mind.
He's got the mind.
To improve his English.
He's ready.
Yes.
He's ready to learn.
Yes.
Gotcha.
Great.
Gotcha, gotcha.
Thank you.
Well, me too.
When I start this podcast, when we start thispodcast, my English was so much worse.
When I come here during riding train, I listenyour podcast and the oldest video.
Don't do that.
That's my favorite.
Your English is very good.
No.
Thank you for that, but...
Yes.
Yeah.
But the beginning, I was very slow.
I couldn't find the words.
I was so, you know, kind of like that.
But like days and times that I improved myEnglish, I guess.
How much...
So when you listen to our show, how muchpercentage of our English can you understand?
Like a podcast.
Yeah, on the podcast, you listen to and it's allEnglish, right?
Yeah.
You're speaking all in English and you listen andit's like, do you understand 20% or do youunderstand 80% or how much percent do youunderstand?
Maybe 10%.
Thank you for listening to the show.
How do you continue?
Okay.
Thank you.
But you speak English like pretty good.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
Better than I thought, actually.
Oh, yeah.
Because you said like, I'm just start learningEnglish and you speak like this.
And that's great already.
Right.
I guess you understand like more than average.
Yeah.
Of the Japanese people, right?
I think so.
Right.
The fact like the questions that I'm asking youright now, they're like, they're kind of difficultto understand.
So the fact that you are understanding it justwow.
Right.
I studied English when I was a high schoolstudent.
And the examination has a listening test.
But the English is very slow.
And your English is too fast for me.
So maybe it is easier to speak than to listen.
Wow, okay.
I see.
That's kind of rare.
Yeah.
Like I think most Japanese people are used tolistening more than speaking.
So like I think like most people that I know, theycan't speak.
But they can understand conversations in English.
So you're like the opposite.
Yeah.
Kind of rare.
I was like this.
I could understand what people were saying, but Icouldn't speak.
So that's great.
Great attitude.
The English class treats very formal and normalEnglish.
Yeah.
So this is very slow and haki-haki.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I like to go to the United States.
Okay.
Yes.
And when I was in the U.S., English is very fast.
It is surprising.
When did you go to the U.S.?
Last summer.
Last summer?
Okay.
Which state?
New York?
San Francisco?
Las Vegas in Utah.
Okay.
Got it.
In what?
Las Vegas in Utah?
Nevada.
Oh, Nevada.
Nevada.
Okay.
Okay.
Las Vegas.
Yes.
Wow.
I like to play poker.
Oh, okay.
That's why.
Okay.
I see.
Do you like it?
I don't play poker.
I played poker.
There was a moment in my life around high schoolwhere playing poker seemed really cool.
It's like, you know the poker people?
They're like really cool looking.
You know how they're really like smart looking andhow...
I wanted to be a poker player because it lookedreally cool.
Like it was like, oh, kakkoii.
Right?
So, yeah, I once learned like all the rules ofpoker.
Like, you know how you have different like hands.
Yeah.
Like, you know, like full house.
I couldn't remember that.
So that's why I stopped.
I don't know what hand I have.
I'm just going to stop playing.
That was the beginning and the end of my pokerlife.
Isn't it popular in the US?
Yeah, very popular.
Poker, I guess, is one of the most played cardgames.
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of the adults, they like to gamble,you know, with friends, I guess.
So they like to play poker.
You guys don't do like the Daifugos andeverything?
No, there are no Daifugos.
I don't know.
Maybe there are.
I don't know.
President.
The American version?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe it exists, but I don't think it's a populargame.
Yeah.
No, I don't think so.
In Japan, it's like the most popular game, youknow, like...
Right.
Daifugo.
Daifugo.
Maybe Babadooki.
Babadooki.
Grandpa.
Grandpa.
Old Mate?
Old Mate?
Is that what it's called?
I heard.
Oh, OK.
Is it popular?
I don't know.
I've never heard of anyone playing that game.
Yeah, poker.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know if I can recall anything else.
But, yeah.
Wow.
How about Shinkei Suijaku?
Yeah, that's popular, too.
I remember that.
But it's much more...
It's too difficult.
It's more...
It's too challenging.
I guess poker is more like, you know, it's morefun.
It's more like interactive.
And I guess it fits the, you know, the culture, Iguess.
The Americans.
You need good memories to play.
Right.
It's just brain teasing.
It's too much for the brain.
And you went to Las Vegas and you did some, like,I don't know, the gamble house.
ルービックキューブとクイズプレイヤーとしての才能
Yeah, casino.
The real ones, the casino.
Yeah.
You did it?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
I've never been to casino.
And there was a world tournament.
OK.
Poker competition.
Wow.
Poker tournament.
You joined to that?
Yes.
Wow.
I didn't know that.
You're the professional then.
Yes.
I won 30,000 dollars.
30,000?
What?
That's 30k?
That's a lot.
300...
Sorry.
450,000 yen.
Wow.
Yes.
Is that...
Wait.
Is that the winning prize?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Like, what's the place?
Like, first place, second place, third place?
I was the twelfth place.
Twelfth place?
Oh, my God.
In the world?
No, the tournament, right?
The tournament was twelfth place.
In 24,000 players.
What?
Wow.
But the competition was like the casino, like aworld championship kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah.
And you were, like, twelfth place.
Yeah.
Shit.
Oh, my God.
My luck was good, yeah.
No, it's not only lucks and everything.
You need some brains and strategies andeverything.
Like, calculation.
Wow.
Probability?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
Do you know how good he is on, like, puzzling and,like, calculations and everything?
No, I don't.
I don't think I'm aware.
I mean...
It's crazy.
It's like he can do the Rubik's Cube.
Yeah.
But, like, he doesn't need to see the cube, and hecan just solve it.
That's crazy.
People can do that.
I never understand...
The Rubik's Cube thing?
That's a mystery to me.
It's like...
But I feel like if I study a little bit, I feellike I can do it, too.
Yeah, yeah.
I feel like if you just follow a certain rule, youcan do it.
Yeah, sorry.
But isn't that easy?
So, the Rubik's Cube thing, I feel like if youfollow a certain rule, you can do it.
Is that true?
Is that...
Do you think it's...
Or is it, like...
Is it much more...
Much more calculation?
Much more difficult?
Yes, yes.
That's true.
It's true?
Yes.
Is there any rules or how to solve the Rubik'sCube?
And we memorize every step.
Oh, the pattern?
Yeah, yeah.
I see.
So, you look at...
Say, for example, you look at one side of the Rubik's Cube and your memory is like,
Okay, this positioning, I remember if I do this,this, this, then I can complete it.
So, you remember...
You memorize every...
Like, almost every pattern and then you sort of gofrom there?
So, in blind cube?
Yeah, or like in general.
If you were to solve a Rubik's Cube?
No, like, the solution is known and we rememberthe pattern.
And if your figure is like the character L, thisend, this end, this, this, this, and this.
And if your figure is cross, like this, this,this, this, and this.
So, this is all manual.
Yes, I learned it too, by the way.
How many patterns do you have to memorize?
For...
But, like, we make one cross.
This is easy.
And we turn over, okay?
And we make under two layers.
This is maybe 50 patterns.
And the top make the cross, maybe 6 patterns.
And the corner, this is maybe 50 patterns.
That's a lot, though.
So, did you learn all that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When I was a high school or a college student, Ithought, like, Rubik's Cube, if I can do that,
that would be very cool.
And I learned how to do that.
But, like, you've got some different levels offormula.
Okay.
The one I learned was the easiest one, but theslowest one.
I see.
It takes more steps.
Yeah, yeah.
I guess those, like, faster players, they do,like, higher level of formulas.
And I guess they have much more things tomemorize.
Oh, I see.
So, the top player of the world, the pattern isnot 50 patterns, but, like, about 500 patterns.
Yes.
So, I get that.
You can't do the 500 patterns, but okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can do that.
Wow.
What are you best good at?
Like, what kind of, like, puzzles or genres ofquizzes, what are you good at the most?
What are you best at?
Best?
Yeah.
But I am good at puzzles.
Puzzles?
And the quiz of RIKEN or genre.
RIKEN.
Okay.
Mathematics or physics.
Mathematics as in, like, hardcore mathematics?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like, for example, like,
この
このテーマ
Is that hardcore mathematics?
That is fucking hardcore mathematics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's the area?
Yeah.
If this is the line, and this is another line, andwhat's the area?
You got the point, and that's moving around, andlike this.
Yeah, what's the area up here?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that what you're, is that what you're talkingabout?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is this the hardcore math?
Oh, God, okay.
All right, let's see.
Integrate the function, right?
Uh-huh.
Yeah, those ones.
What's that?
What is that?
What is it?
What is it in...
赤文.
赤文?
Ah.
Those.
Those are easy.
Integrate integration.
I remember.
I can remember.
Okay.
Yeah.
I see.
I've heard of it.
Yes.
I've heard of it.
Me too, man.
Me too.
So, uh, I'm, uh, I'm a quiz player.
Yeah.
This word is, uh...
Quiz player?
In English?
In English?
I don't know if quiz player would be the mostaccurate, I don't know, or quiz king.
Quiz king.
Quiz king.
Quiz all.
Quiz all.
Quiz all.
If you're...
Yeah, quiz all.
Quiz all.
The king of the quizzes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Could be...
Yeah, could be it.
King of the quiz.
But, like, in America, it's a little bit of adifferent culture than the Japanese quiz world.
You know, in Japan, it's much more athletic, youknow?
It's much more, you know, competition.
It's much more like, you know, there's the art ofthe quiz, you know?
There's like...
You know what I'm saying?
It's like...
For example, like, the high school quiz.
It's like...
It's a mental battle now.
It's more like, not just a knowledge quiz, it'smore like, if the question starts like this, then...
There's art.
It's art, right?
In America, it's not like that.
It's much more, you know, for lack of betterterms, it's much more, I don't know, it's simpler,I guess.
It's just...
Do you know it or not?
You don't...
It's much more, like, comedy vibes.
It's much more, you know, comedy.
So, it's a little bit of a different vibe here.
So, I don't know...
So, if you say, in America, I'm a quiz player.
It's not as clear as...
It's not as, you know, understandable as Japan, Iwould say.
Yeah, right, right, right.
I do quizzes professionally.
Professionally?
Yeah, you could say that.
I do quizzes professionally in Japan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's like, yeah, that makes sense.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, right, right, right.
So, how should I say my...
Right.
You can say, I do quizzes professionally.
Professionally?
Professionally.
Not as a job, but as a profession.
I see.
It means that I do it as my main job.
Professionally.
Right, professionally.
I do...
I do quizzes professionally.
Professionally.
Right, yeah.
Thank you.
I do quizzes professionally.
And...
play...
puzzle.
This quiz and puzzle is not the same.
Okay, yeah.
But I'm good at both.
This is rare.
Like, do you know Izawa?
Yes.
He's good at quiz, but not good at puzzle.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So, both player is very rare.
I see, I see.
Wow, okay.
So, like memory or calculation.
And knowledge.
Knowledge.
It is need...
The knowledge is needed, yeah.
So...
I don't know what I want to say.
Oh, okay.
I understand.
So, okay.
You're...
I guess you're trying to say that you're rare in away that you know...
You can do the puzzles and you can do the quizzes.
And that's kind of your specialty.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Your color, I would say.
Yeah, okay.
I understand.
That's great.
You should see some videos of him playing somepuzzles.
That's crazy fast.
And it's just...
I don't know what's going on inside of his brain.
It's just incredible how you do that.
Wow.
It's crazy too fast.
And I can make the six...
Rokumen.
Rokumen?
Six-sided?
Six-sided in the Rubik's Cube.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Without seeing it.
Oh, God.
That's crazy.
So you look at it once and then you're blindfoldedand then boom.
I don't...
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
クイズ対決の予告
Is there a game that we can do right now thatcould test your skill on any genres that you'regood at?
Sure.
So...
What do you mean?
So...
Let's say I have some quizzes here.
Okay.
I got downloaded from your books, by the way.
Oh, yeah. Thank you.
And you got...
I guess there are some puzzle-ish quizzes here, Iguess.
Okay.
Quizzes will start it.
Yeah.
I want to do one quiz with you.
Yeah.
I just want to know...
I just want to see you in action.
Yeah.
Experience how fast...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I just want to see how you do...
See how you react to problems.
I'm interested in that.
Yeah.
So what I got here is...
Those are all usual quizzes.
It's from, by the way, the book called...
What's the name?
This is...
無敵の灯台のクイズ, by the way.
Thank you.
So it's not puzzle-puzzle quizzes, but...
But you'll see how fast he is and how good he isat quizzing.
So right now, I'm looking at the book that hepublished.
But if I ask him this question, he already knowsthe answer, right?
Oh, yeah, I guess so.
You can answer this one, too.
But...
It was published before 5 years?
Yeah, many years ago.
Oh, you don't forget that.
Yeah, he can memorize everything.
You don't forget in 5 years.
Yeah, if I...
If I mistake the quiz,
that's too bad.
You're gonna look too bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How about this?
Can I...
Can I think of a quiz for you?
Oh, you think of a quiz?
Okay, okay.
Like an American quiz.
Okay, you make quizzes.
Can I do it in English?
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
Then I can probably do it.
Right?
I'm recently actually so into quizzes,
and I watch QuizKnock videos,
and I train myself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What about genres?
What kind of genres?
Should we do?
Should we do like,
in general, American quizzes?
Oh, yeah.
For example, like,
what's the capital of Georgia?
Those things or...
Yeah.
Is there any...
Okay, we'll let him choose.
Yeah.
Because right now,
we're gonna do it in English,
and it's our advantage.
So what kind of genres do you wanna do?
But...
Like...
How about countries?
Countries?
Okay, got it.
Wow.
Just countries.
So not only United States,
but anywhere in the world.
Okay, okay.
Wow.
All right.
Let's do it.
I'm excited.
Let's do it in the next episode.
Let's do that.
All right.
So thanks for listening, guys.
On the next episode,
we're gonna do the quiz.
All right.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Thank you.
Goodbye.
