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The classic, the classic one.
- Okay. - Yes.
- So, let me just play this audio message
from Suzu-san today.
- Yes, the one that we tried to introduce on the Plus.
- Yes.
- But it was a cultural question.
- Yeah, so here you go.
It's a...
- I have to be, you know, careful.
- Right.
- Quietly.
- Kevin, Yama-chan and Kake-chan,
how are you guys doing?
I'm Suzu.
I'm always looking forward to your videos and podcasts.
You guys help me a lot, thank you.
Let me ask my questions to you.
I'm a university student, by the way.
Then I like myself talking in English
so that I can be more positive and open.
And I also like to communicate with non-Japanese people.
So, I'm thinking to work and live in the world
or work in Japan and get much pay
then I travel all over the world.
So, my question is, if you guys want me,
which way would you choose?
Please share your stories
and I hope you guys will keep
uploading your videos and podcasts.
Thank you, bye.
- All right.
All right.
Are we gonna talk about the fact that your stomach
just made a huge noise while we were silently recording?
- Yeah, louder than the audio message.
- I don't know if the mic caught it though, but yeah.
Okay, all right, all right, all right.
So, could you quickly, what was it, yeah,
quickly going over what she asked?
- Okay.
- Was to go abroad?
- Or working in Japan?
- Or working in Japan.
I was so distracted by your stomach.
And wondering if this audio was on or not.
- Is it?
- I don't know, maybe.
I pressed it and it started tinkling like this.
- Oh, then tinkling's not a word.
- But yeah, but maybe it was off.
Maybe, I don't know.
- So, for those YouTube viewers,
should I play that again?
- Oh no, it's okay.
Well, for us, let's play it again.
(laughing)
- So, that's the question, basically.
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- Got it, got it, got it.
Stay in Japan or go abroad?
- Yes.
- I remember having like a similar question
for this one, right?
- True, true.
- And I remember we advising to go with your gut
and like,
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- Yes, yes, yes.
That's right.
Yeah, you're right.
- Am I right?
- Yeah.
(speaking in foreign language)
- Yeah.
- There, man.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I got it, I got it.
Okay.
- That's what you--
- That's what I said, right?
- Yeah, so I guess the same thing, right?
- Yeah, but this time it's a little different
because she is thinking about two ways.
One is go abroad and live in,
I don't know which country,
but live abroad and work abroad.
And the other choice is work in Japan
and get high salary
and then travel around,
which is the better, she think.
- That's a good, I mean, money is always a big factor.
- Yeah.
- Like the one is you just go abroad
and get like usual salary in abroad and live there
or live in Japan and using that English skill
and get high salary and have vacation
and go like on a trip.
- Okay, so this is me, my opinion.
So I might not agree with you,
but from my, how I would think is if you can wait,
if you have the patience to wait,
I would say work in Japan,
have that one line on the resume saying that
I earned this much with this job
and then change jobs, go abroad,
which would get you higher pay in the US, I feel like,
because having that experience matters, right?
So if you're really considering,
if you think that money is also a big part of,
of course it's to everybody, I'm sure,
but if you're putting a little bit more on the money,
I would go a little more strategically
and just stay in Japan a little bit,
get the experience and then go abroad would be my choice.
- So that's third way, yeah?
- Yeah.
How about you, man?
- Oh, I don't, I don't.
- Hmm.
Do you get higher salary if you work in Japan?
- If you have experience.
- If you have experience, yeah.
- In the same field, right?
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- Like if she's a university student who speaks English
and if she works in Japan and that makes her get higher salary
compared to she directly go to, you know,
company in abroad and.
- For example, if you work at a Japanese marketing company
in Japan, right?
And then go to the US and go for a US based
Japanese marketing company,
and I think you'd get a higher pay.
- In?
- Like a US based.
- Okay.
- That targets Japanese people.
- Okay.
- Like because.
- In Japan.
- In the US, either way, right?
- Either way.
- Okay, so for example, like a marketing company
that targets Asian people living in the US, right?
Then a person with a prior experience
of marketing Japanese people would be an advantage
to the company, I feel like.
Thus a higher pay is my logic here.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I do agree with your, you know, third choice.
But my question is, she said that, you know,
she's now university student,
and after graduated the university,
she thinks that if she live in Japan and works in Japan,
using her English skill, that, you know,
makes her having higher salary compared to she,
you know, go to the, like for example,
the United States and work in some company.
Is that true?
- What do you mean?
- Like.
- Like which gets a higher pay?
- Yeah.
Like to me, it depends on the company, no?
- True, true.
I thought ultimately, if her ultimate goal
was to be in the US, then I guess after, like,
ultimately, if you wanna work in the US, right?
After graduating college, going directly to the US
versus having an experience here in Japan,
and then moving to US, wouldn't you agree
that the latter one gets you a higher pay?
Or is it questionable for you?
- Yeah, but I understand that logic,
'cause if you wanna, yeah.
(laughs)
Yeah.
(laughs)
I don't understand your strategy,
and that's true, that's all she got, but.
Like to me, I felt that she's saying that
just soon after graduated, she thinks that
staying in Japan and working in Japan makes more money.
So I'm not sure about that.
09:03
- Right.
For the first, I guess, like,
for the first several years, right?
Japan's probably gonna be better.
- Yeah.
- But if you think about after changing,
the second job you got,
you'd have, you already.
So what I thought was, in Japan, you can start high.
- Okay.
- Because you have English skills, right?
In the US, you start from zero, right?
- They have Japanese, no?
- True.
So it's the same.
(laughs)
- Well, yeah.
- Yeah.
- Yes.
- So to me, like, it's the company you enter.
- True.
- Like, we never know if it's highest salary company
or not, so.
I think, like, if you go to the United States directly,
and also find the, you know, well-paying company,
that can be, no?
- Yeah, true.
- Yeah.
- I agree.
I agree.
- Yeah, so if she's, like, dreaming to be living
in one country, like, the United States,
then, I mean, your strategy is the best way, you know,
get a career in Japan, and with that career,
you know, get a higher job in the United States.
But if she just wanna trip around
and go, you know, several countries,
then, you know, it doesn't matter where are you,
where you are, you know?
- Yeah.
- Simply get higher salary.
- Yeah.
- It's the matter for her, no?
- Yeah, it's true.
- 'Cause you can travel around from the United States.
- It's true.
So, in the US or in Japan,
yeah, or like, third way, fourth way, maybe.
Like, for example, in European country,
it's really easy to travel around, actually,
compared to traveling from Japan,
it's really far, you know, take a flight,
10, 12 hours to Africa, you know?
But if you're living in, like, for example, in France,
you can just take a train two hours to Germany,
two hours to Italy, like, three hours flight
to African countries, so you can save money in times.
So, even you get little, you know, less salary,
compared to if you're working in Japan,
maybe that's maybe better.
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- True.
Did she say she wants to travel all over the world?
- No, but, no.
But I'm not sure.
And I'd like to communicate with,
not so, to work and live in the world,
or work in Japan and get much pay.
- Yeah, just abroad.
- Oh.
- I'm thinking to work and live in the world.
- Oh.
- Yeah, walking and living abroad.
- Yeah, well, yeah, I guess that's an option too.
- Yeah.
- Like, if she wants to, like, travel places.
- Uh-huh.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- But so I guess what we can agree on is that the money,
if you're worried about, like,
am I gonna get a higher pay in the US or Japan?
It really, it depends on the company.
- Yeah.
- And you can utilize your English skills in Japan,
or you can utilize your Japanese skills in the US.
- Yeah.
- So, I guess the experience is more important.
Like, the first seven years.
- I agree with that.
- Do you wanna be in Japan?
- Yeah.
- Do you wanna be in the US or anywhere else?
- Uh-huh.
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
(laughing)
- True.
- Right.
And there's cost of living matters too, right?
- Ah, yeah.
- It's a lower cost of living in some parts of US,
in Georgia, like.
- Oh, really?
- Yeah.
- Okay.
- Rent is low.
- True.
- Yeah.
- Oh, true, then if you get same salary,
then you can have much more.
- Better quality of life, I guess.
- Right.
- Stay in New York, you're fucking broke.
- Yeah.
(laughing)
- True.
- Yeah, you could go to Tokyo and be broke as well.
- Of course.
- Or go to Inaka in Japan and be, like, yeah.
- True.
- Go rent.
- True.
- There's a lot of, like, I guess factors you can tweak with.
- Yeah.
- You know.
- That's reality.
When we, you know, have this kind of question,
we have to, you know, always end up like this.
- Yeah.
- 'Cause there are so many factors.
- Exactly.
- To, you know.
- Exactly.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- For us to think about.
- Right, right, right.
So just consider this an idea, just to start off with.
- Yeah, yeah, true.
- Don't finalize your decision just with this.
But I hope this helped.
- Yeah.
- All right.
- Hope.
- Thanks for listening.
- No, no, no, it's just longer than I thought.
- Okay.
(laughing)
- It's 14 now.
- All right, thanks for listening, guys.
