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Okinawan Japanese and English. はいたーい。
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いっぺーうむさらはなし、てづけーあんりち、うむとーいビーン。
There are spirit medium shamans called Yuta in Okinawa and Amami Oshima. Their numbers
are far greater than the monks of the temple. Hidenori Ukai, a journalist and monk, said
in Okinawa and Amami, indigenous beliefs such as Yuta are still deeply rooted.
What kind of process, the process of becoming a shaman, does Yuta take? Yuta is not hereditary.
One day, they receive a divine revelation called Kamidari. At that time, a physical abnormality,
a trance state is shown, and God tells them threateningly that they are destined to become
Yuta. Okinawa is more dependent on Yuta than Amami. There is a saying, half doctor, half
Yuta. This is a metaphor for the custom of the Okinawan people, who expect physical and
mental healing from the invisible power of Yuta, although doctors treat illnesses with
western medicine. For example, in some areas of central Okinawa, there is a custom of dropping
grains, rice, in the crevices when the grave is reburied and the ashes transported. This
is a ritual to keep the shinrimabui, souls of the dead, from getting lost. In Okinawa,
most of instructions related to graves are given by Yuta, not by temple priests. It is
said that some are lenders becoming addicted to Yuta because they cannot get out of it. However,
the values that cannot be visualized or quantified, such as ancestral worship and
reverence for the unseen world, are the identities that the Japanese have cherished, or in other
words, their culture. In particular, traditional funerals by indigenous religious customs can be
said to be the culminations of culture.
In Okinawa, there is a saying that Yuta is half doctor and half Yuta, which is said to be deeply related to the culture of worship and reverence for the unseen world, and that Yuta is not a conception, but a form of God called Kamidari, and at that time, the body shows a state of trance, and it is a fate that must become Yuta, which is said to be threatening from God.
In Okinawa, there is a saying that Yuta is half doctor and half Yuta, which is said to be deeply related to the culture of worship and reverence for the unseen world, and that Yuta is not a conception, but a form of God called Kamidari, and at that time, the body shows a state of trance, and it is a fate that must become Yuta, which is said to be threatening from God.
This is a doctor who treats diseases in Western medicine, but it is an example of the habits of Okinawan people who expect physical and mental healing by the unseen power of Yuta.
For example, in some areas of central Okinawa, there is a custom of removing rice grains when the grave is remodeled and the remains are transported. This is a ritual to prevent the soul of the deceased from becoming lost.
In Okinawa, there is a custom of removing rice grains when the grave is remodeled and the remains are transported. This is a ritual to prevent the soul of the deceased from becoming lost.
This is a ritual to prevent the soul of the deceased from becoming lost.
Yuta.
Yuta.
Yuta from Yutashuu.
Yuta.
Yuta.
So is it like the word of shaman is like a universal word that everyone can imagine that shaman is a spiritual being?
Yes.
I saw the article said Peru, Mexico, and Mongolia, Indonesia, Greenland, they have their shaman and their culture. So the way they do shaman things is different in all the countries, but they have things like shaman.
I want to know whether they kind of believe in their shaman, as in, you know, like Okinawa, like half doctor, half Yuta kind of thing.
It's kind of same as Yuta.
I think so.
I want to experience that.
In Mexico, is it legal to use mushrooms?
I guess it depends on the kind of mushroom.
Like Ayahuasca, I've heard that it's done in the mountains.
Ayahuasca?
It's not like a ritual, it's more like there's a shaman who guides you, and people who experience it gather in a group and do it in a concentrated way.
So even if there's someone who's sick or surprised, that person will guide you.
Yes, yes, yes. It's a ritual where you get to feel the real you that separates your body and mind.
So it's not like using drugs, it's more like using drugs to make yourself have a different awakening in your brain.
To see objectively your soul and body separately.
Like Yuta-Ri-Datsu?
Ri-Datsu?
It's kind of like...
It's kind of like...
Sleeping...what was it?
If you watch this, you'll get sleepy.
Sleeping...
It's kind of like hypnotism.
I think so.
But in a way, hypnotism is amazing because you don't have to use things you put in your body.
I think it depends on people that it works.
When I went to Starbucks with Minami, Kenji was doing that thing with his hands.
I didn't feel anything at the time.
What was that?
What Akane was saying was...
There was a being called Ikibotoke that wasn't Yuta.
When I met him, Akane was there.
What was he doing with his hands?
You were asking him about your apartment in Tokyo.
There's a ghost or something in your house.
You were asking him about it.
He was doing it with his hands, right?
He was doing it with his hands, right?
He was doing it with his hands, right?
But it also depends on the person.
It also depends on the ability to accept it.
It also depends on the ability to accept it.
But it takes time.
Little by little.
He only did it once, so I don't know.
But he was putting his palm in front of his eyes.
I knew he was shaking his eyeballs.
That's amazing.
I knew he was shaking his eyeballs, but I just knew it.
Isn't it amazing just to know?
But if you put your hands in front of your face, you can feel something because of your temperature, right?
But if you put your hands in front of your face, you can feel something because of your temperature, right?
And then you feel like he's touching my eyes.
And then you feel like he's touching my eyes.
I don't know.
I don't know, but...
I know quite a bit.
Really?
Try it with Norman.
It's just that Minami is amazing.
No, it's not.
I won't go as far as Charmander, but the color is...
I won't go as far as Charmander, but the color is...
It's like an aura.
For example, Akane puts her hand on Minami's forehead.
Oh, it's the other way around.
Akane puts her hand on Minami's forehead.
Orange, orange, orange.
Akane's head is orange, too.
I can see some kind of color.
I can see some kind of color.
I want to try it.
Sometimes it's a different color.
Sometimes it's a different color.
If you look closely, Minami can only see that color.
If you look closely, Minami can only see that color.
I'm not saying it's like me.
I'm just saying the color you feel with your forehead.
I'm just saying the color you feel with your forehead.
That's amazing.
I can see their color vibe sometimes.
I can see their color vibe sometimes.
Like aura thing?
Yeah, it's like image color.
Yeah, it's like image color.
For everyone.
This person is kind of purple.
This person is kind of orange.
I think that happens a lot.
I think that happens a lot.
Like, what color is this person?
Like, when you look at the white wall
and the space between your fingers
you can see
white spots around you.
than we think.
I believe that.
I believe that.
It's a fact.
Yuta
and others
have grown up
and
half of them are doctors
and half are Yuta.
So I think half and half are good.
Because
scientists
haven't reached to the perfect level
of, you know, they can't cure everything.
In a very
short time, right?
I mean, short time
or long term.
Science or medical
isn't perfect yet.
Because there are so much diseases
that we can't cure and we don't know what it is.
So science isn't perfect
at the moment, in 2023.
If that's the case,
it's not normal
for Yuta
to take care of
other things.
It's not normal at all.
You know,
I have a friend who became
like a shaman person.
And I read her
Instagram before and then
she explained how she became
like that.
She used to
can read
people's mind.
When she was
a child,
since she was a child,
she could understand
what people said.
And
like,
she could see it, so
if someone said something different,
you say different things.
That's what she thought.
And
like a prophecy,
she could see it.
But she was not a very spiritual person
at the time, so she didn't believe
anything. But then
she couldn't stop
thinking about it
and she could read people's mind.
So when someone
looked at her, she had that ability.
When she was told that,
her feelings became easier.
So
she could see
a lot of things.
It sounds kind of scary, but
but
now she
accepts it
and goes to
a power spot
to pray.
That's what
she wrote.
But
before,
when I went to Tokyo
and was drinking somewhere,
I talked about Okinawa
with her mom.
I was like,
Okinawans are so spiritual
and they believe too much.
I was like,
it's a shame
to be called
a fortune teller.
Yeah.
Your family
always invites Yuta
to your house
when something happens.
When do you invite him?
When?
We have
Yuta Yuta
to my family.
He's not always the same person.
He changes from time to time.
There's a Yuta
who goes to his house
once a year.
If something happens,
he goes to his house.
Does that mean
that his relatives
introduced him to you?
Yeah.
It's like an introduction.
And I think
he's an old acquaintance.
True.
I searched Yuta on the internet
but it looks like
business Yuta.
I think
the Yuta world is divided
by two groups.
Like for Yuta,
and also for Kishitsugaku,
the fortune tellers in Okinawa,
their association doesn't want
to appear on social media at all.
The top people
don't want to show anything.
It sounds real for me.
If it's not on
the social media, right?
Some people might think
it's weird to hear this,
but by showing information on the internet,
the energy is absorbed.
I see.
Their value
is taken away.
If it's consumed as a cheap thing,
if the world has
become like that,
from the perspective of
the earthlings,
the energy to believe in
the earth will decrease.
That's what I think.
So I think it's better not to show it.
But for Yuta,
there are people
who appear on national TV.
Their value
is quite high.
I think
there are business Yuta,
but for Minami,
if it's effective,
I think it's better to show it.
My family,
Yuta,
I don't know the price of them,
but my mom and aunt
go to visit them
once in a year,
or at the end of the year,
or a big event is going on,
or someone passes away.
Then,
the whole family,
if it's Minami,
it's a little dangerous this year,
so be careful.
Also,
they check the address of the house
and the direction.
Depending on Yuta's level,
I think some people do it at the temple,
but you can do something
at the temple.
Each person has their own power.
It's not like
each group has their own power.
So if you want to talk to someone,
you can do it now.
I think we did it at the funeral.
I think we did it at the funeral.
After the funeral,
we did something at the temple.
Maybe before that.
But now, there are different families.
Some people don't
believe in ancestors
too much.
Yuta doesn't work that much.
That's right.
The number of users is decreasing.
I see.
But Japanese people love fortune-telling.
If you think about it,
I don't think it will disappear.
I think Yuta is looking for
something more positive.
Right now,
meditation is a trend.
I used to be bullied.
I was told that I was different
from everyone else.
But now that I've experienced a lot,
I've become a shaman.
There are people like that.
Sometimes.
The fact that there are more people like that
means that
this spirituality will continue.
It's not a system
where you talk to Yuta's ancestors.
It's like
I'm telling you
what I feel about you.
It's like card reading.
That's right.
But
after the pandemic,
people started believing
in the spiritual world.
Like someone you can see.
Yeah.
If that's the case,
I'm aiming for that.
There are people
who feel spiritual things
at birth.
I've been
researching a lot
about Minami.
I've seen a lot of people.
Yeah.
There are a lot of people
who are allowed to do that.
Like my friend Akane,
I don't know what she's going to say,
but she's a little uncomfortable.
I feel like
she's more sensitive
than other people.
She's a highly sensitive person.
People like that
might be like that now.
So I don't think
it's spiritual.
I don't think it's spiritual.
You can say it's full of sensitivity.
Yes, yes, yes.
So people with a lot of sensitivity
study hard
whether it's Shichu Meimei
or Sensei Jutsu
and match it
with the sensitivity they have.
That's right.
It's part of
like a
consider
with the cards.
Like, you know,
we talked with Ian before
and he got the therapist with
a Buddhist.
Buddhist x
therapist.
It's necessary
from a medical point of view,
but it's also necessary
from a religious point of view.
Because
the science isn't perfect yet.
So by being supplemented there,
I don't know what it is,
but
for example,
people who want to die
want to live after all.
Or
they want to do their best
from tomorrow.
In the end,
it's not a western medical
world.
It's a job that
puts out the potential
that humans originally have.
So Minami...
This mental thing,
it's not mental training,
but I feel like
it's more important than studying
to make yourself recover.
I think so.
Like,
you learn,
but if you don't have the basics,
there are a lot of people who collapse.
So I think
it would be better
to strengthen that in Japan.
My parents don't teach me.
I mean, they don't know.
They don't know.
This is the thing
that people
who have that power
or knowledge can do
for kids.
That's what I think.
It's like
people are
not smart enough
to
understand by
feeling.
Humans haven't evolved yet,
so they can only understand
what has been proven
by science.
Maybe.
If you think about it the other way around.
Because...
It's easier to understand.
It's easier to understand.
Like, where is the evidence?
Which research organization
proved it?
If you believe that much,
why did you
choose your current wife?
It's hard to understand.
What evidence do you have?
So
it's not like
you can choose
people's feelings by feeling.
In the end,
the more energetic you are.
Yes.
Babies are also energetic.
But
as I said before,
humans are too stupid.
As long as
spiritual things are not proven by science,
Yes.
people keep saying
it's impossible.
Yes.
Yuta, do you think it's because it's not proven by science?
Yes.
It happens a lot in Unbelievable.
A psychic
finds a criminal.
It's like drawing a picture
of the criminal's face.
It's because it's not proven.
Politicians
and scientists
are destroying it.
I see.
Spiritual people like shamans.
If they are right,
it will collapse soon.
Maybe.
I think so.
But
Okinawa is accepting it.
It's great.
Yuta is very active.
Yes.
A believer.
Maybe it's because of the war.
Yes.
The reason why Minami Naka is still alive in the war
is because grandparents survived the war.
Yes.
They are still alive.
If you think about it,
people who died
have no other way
but to worship their ancestors.
Yes.
Worshiping ancestors is not a religion.
It's not something everyone has.
Yes.
It's not like someone taught Christianity or Buddha.
It's more real.
Yes.
The reason why they are still alive
and the chance
to worship their ancestors
is because everyone agrees.
Yes.
So it's not a science.
Yes.
This is what my grandpa told me
through Yuta.
Yes.
But Yuta,
there are people who
go to pick up their grandparents
after a car accident.
There are many people
who don't do that.
Yes.
But when people die,
I often hear
why they died.
Why did they die?
Yes.
Why did they commit suicide
when they were so healthy?
Why did they get involved
in the sea
when they were
in a safe place?
There is no one
with them.
And people who are alive
want to get rid of questions.
That's why they call Yuta.
I often hear that.
Yes.
What is a ghost?
A wave?
Well,
for example,
if Minamikawa is at zero point,
there are high and low dimensions.
Yes.
If you focus on the low dimension,
it becomes a ghost.
If you focus on the high dimension,
it becomes an alien
or a world
seen by Christ.
I saw that
they can predict
the future.
I see.
The ghost who does bad things
is a wave,
but it's in a very low wave world.
It's just that
it's not visible at the normal level of Minamikawa.
Yes.
It may be possible to
focus on the low dimension.
Yes.
It's often reflected in the camera.
Yes.
It's hard to hear with human eyes and ears.
Yes.
It's like a sound
only young people can hear.
Yes.
Children often see ghosts.
Children often see ghosts.
Like, there is an old man over there.
So,
it's not a scary thing for them,
but something they need.
When they grow up,
they are influenced by the rules of society
and become invisible.
Yes.
There is also training.
If you are close to someone
who has a strong spirit,
it is said that it will be reflected.
Akane doesn't seem to be reflected.
But it's scary.
I heard a scary story.
When I hear a scary story,
I get scared when I go to bed.
I wonder if there is someone
under the bed.
When I take a shower,
I drink too much water
and my hands don't come from behind.
Moreover, it's too heavy
and I get nervous.
It was like that when I was an elementary school student.
I know. I took a shower with the door of the bathroom open.
It's a tremendous imagination.
Yes.
In the end, it's imagination.
I think so.
But it's scary.
When I went to a haunted spot
and said that it was scary,
Norman always said
that people are dead
here and everywhere
in the war.
In Okinawa,
he said that everything was a haunted spot.
I'm not scared anymore.
I think so.
Everyone likes it.
People often say that
it's a scary ghost.
Yes.
When I walk on the street,
I wonder what it was
100 years ago.
Then I get scared.
Yes.
I wonder if it was a period drama
or
if it was 100 years later.
Yes.
I wonder if it was a person
who had a painful death
or
a person who had a painful death
but his feelings
are still there.
That's why it's scary.
Yes.
It's not a person who died,
but a person who is wandering
and can't be buried.
He hasn't realized
that he's dead yet.
Yes.
When I went to a Catholic school,
the teacher told me
that
I believed a lot
in Jesus.
When I was a kid.
When I slept every day,
I prayed every day
in bed.
And
when I was a kid,
I was a very serious kid.
Yes.
The teacher told me
that people who died
had a kind of heaven and hell
in between
and that people who are here
can only go to heaven
after everyone prays.
By praying,
people who are alive
can go to heaven.
Since then,
I prayed every day
that people who are in hell
can go to heaven.
I prayed desperately
for those people
to go to heaven.
And
when I was a kid,
I was praying for my parents.
I was praying a lot.
I was praying a lot
when I was a kid.
But I believed a lot
when I was a kid.
My parents were very religious.
My parents were very religious.
My parents were very religious.
My parents were very religious.
My parents were very religious.
My parents were very religious.
Yes.
My parents were very religious.
My parents were very religious.
Even if they grew up,
they still believed in
the religion,
because they were Christians.
Because they were Christians.
When I grew up,
when I grew up a lot,
I couldn't forget
I couldn't forget
this religion.
Because of these religious ideas,
I think there are a lot of people who have a lot of connections
like marriage partners,
or people who do things beyond marriage
or people who don't have sex because they're Christians
all of them
if you cheat on someone, it's like a death sentence
that's true
that's why you don't have any resistance to this kind of world
I think so
In the end, I started to become an adult myself
because I like science
yeah
so what?
it doesn't have to make sense
yeah
believe what you wanna believe
something like that
you know, whatever you believe in
like Christian or Buddhism
Buddhism
or ancestor worship
or any kind of religion
if it helps you to be better to yourself
then anything will be fine
according to Bible
it's not like this or that
it's not because Christ said this
or because someone said this
it's not like this
it's like who the fuck are you
if you can't be yourself
what's the point of living?
in your body
it's like that
this is
I'm the type of person who understands
what are they talking about?
something like that
I think everyone can understand
at least in my family
but there are some people who don't understand
there are shamans in the mainland
people who go to the temple
are there people who go to the temple?
but people in the mainland don't even have fortune
fortune? what kind of fortune?
any kind of fortune is fine
in Japan, there are a lot of middle-aged men
like Feng Shui
yeah
but that's all over the country
fortune
in the US, astrology is popular
star system
there are no kanji
there are numerals
but it's not that popular
in Asia, kanji is
I think it's fine if it's related to numbers
like numerals
you can add the zodiac sign
in the end, the day you were born
or the date
the direction of the zodiac sign
the direction of the zodiac sign determines the zodiac sign
in the US, astrology
the direction of the zodiac sign doesn't change
I think it's the same
yeah
celebrities and presidents
go to fortune telling
oh really?
people who go
it's to determine the direction of the zodiac sign
but you can't tell if it's a fortune
you can't tell
you can look it up
but if you look at thousands of people
that feeling alone is enough
so fortune telling is like a counselor
in Japan, it's like that
true
but
psychology
or brain science
if you ask if they know
it's not like that
so you need credibility
to be able to go to fortune telling
true
isn't the word fortune telling bad?
what?
in English, it's fortune teller
such a deep sound
true
I don't think they're telling fortune
but
don't you think?
I feel like the naming is weird
fortune telling
yeah
when it's a big decision
it's better to refer to something
to help you
that's the situation
I totally believe in fortune telling
like
if there's not
like a big decision thing
I take like
once in a month thing
but
after 5 minutes
I forget everything
true
so it's half and half
I'm conscious of the yaku-doshi
where is yaku-doshi this year?
next year for me
oh yeah
what happens in yaku-doshi?
bad things happen
according to internet
yeah
like
it doesn't mean
originally that yaku-doshi
is something bad will happen to you
yeah
it means like
a turning point
a changing period of your life
so you need to watch out
meeting new people
buying a new thing
going somewhere
so yaku-doshi doesn't mean
like a bad term
it's just like a good point
challenging you
yeah
now it's like
words evolve into bad things
like bad words
yeah
but
originally it means
a turning point
a yaku-doshi
for 3 years
I'm a yaku-doshi
Akane is a yaku-doshi
so she has 2 years
preparing
so it doesn't mean
a bad life for 3 years
maybe your job will change
or
you might have a lucky encounter
sounds fun
when you buy a new thing